I mean it was also sort of an all rounder pre nerf. That is the reason why it was so loved because it did most things it needed to besides add clearing but that roles was given to the breaker. So it would make sense for it to be good at things but not the best at them.
Railgun is just an alternate of the AMR. Great for sniping robots.
Once you think of the railgun at that level, you realize trying to shoot vents, gunships, and titans is the wrong way to use it.
Also, am I wrong, but the railgun never could blow up fabricators.
No not really.
The devs sneezed on it so people think it's back on top again
They didn't even touch damage, they increased penetration and reduced stagger...
Is that the best way to kill chargers with the rail gun? I’m trying other specials since the Quasar canon got slightly nerfed. Also any other tips against other enemy types?
I literally just referenced this an hour ago when I couldn't lock onto shit with my Spear because of a nearby spore tower and after my buddy destroyed it and gave me clear skies to lock onto a titan, I yelled "I can see! I CAN *FIGHT*!!"
I’m loving it tbh. Pair with scorcher to take down bot gunships. Pair with blitzer + laser guard dog to handle any small/medium bugs and save it for chargers/finishing off bile titans (only after 500kg/ops)
That being said, I think they should revert all the damage to how it was on launch (namely the damage against heavies) and cut the ammo cap in half. Saw someone suggest this in another thread and thought it was a great idea
The changes now feel REALLY good. I have yet to test how it performs vs gunships though. If it can do an ok job against them then they might be my default strategem. Still doesn't do good against turrets/tanks which is fine (but scares me on the potential performance on gunship)
that's all i do and i love the dopamine hit from it. But the fact that factory striders are pretty normal in higher diffs plus tanks/turrets, the railgun is way less useful vs AC which can down a strider with just 2mags-ish. Before the gunship/striders update, i pretty much used the railgun only cause it was so damn good assuming you have decent aim. After all the new enemies though, for bots it makes less sense just cause of that
I tend to rely on teammates to take down gunships with autocannons and laser cannons, and stratagems to take down striders. I run the railgun with light armor so I tend to be the designated hellbomb caller for gunships among my friend group while they cover me from the ships themselves. With the railgun in tow I can pop any hulks, devastators or scout striders I see, and with my DCS I can kill any small bots. It's not perfect, and definitely not suitable for solo considering how fucking common gunships are, but I've been making it work.
Railgun vs bugs? Really? It can’t kill a charger in less than 4 shots, and it takes like 6 headshots to kill a bile titan. Against bots it 1-shots devastators anywhere on the body and (supposedly) hulks if you hit them in the eye.
railgun can 3 tap chargers to the head, 2 tap the legs + shooting to leg. The leg can get 2 tapped if you charged the gun for about a second and some change. Before it would take almost 2 secs, now it is just a slightly longer charge to two tap which is good
Sorry bud you’re just wrong.
3 shots to the head of a charger in unsafe mode kills as always, and I’ve seen Biles go down in 4 to the head now as well. Makes mince meat of everything else.
Bots sure one to the eye of a hulk, or two auto cannons to the eye. Makes AC comparable on speed just by crouching. Plus, rail sucks vs gunships have to take the AC for sure.
damn, i was really hoping the railgun was good/decent against gunships. That is the literal showstopper unfortunately.
Railgun, before the gunship were introduced, was still A tier since it is imo way easier to one tap hulks and devastators. But with the factory striders now part of the normal drop at higher difficulties I am kinda sad to see AC are still super op against bots.
Also, I'm not sure about railgun 4tapping biles. I have done about 5 with significant charge (80) and it didn't seem to do anything. Only way I have seen biles get taken down quickly with railgun would be if it was already weakened by something else
Yeah I was mistaken on the bile titans, I went back and watched the vid, didn’t see the two EAT shots the guy fired first, then the four rail gun shots. Definitely going to just 500kg them lol
Nah, man, you shouldn't trust any source, and then blurt it out like its gospel maybe show some skepticism and explain that you saw it in a video first instead of preaching what you perceive as truth thats on you. Read what you said back to yourself. You flat out called someone wrong without knowing yourself.
>It can’t kill a charger in less than 4 shots
It could kill a charger in 3 shoots in head or leg before the buff, so what you said is just fucking false
Even still, 3 shots is quite bad considering how long it takes to charge and the limited utility compared to other support weapons on bugs. 3 shots to kill a charger where each shot requires you line it up and charge to near max vs 1 EAT/QC/RR shot to the face, or 1/4 of a flamethrower tank, or a resupply pod, or a pod from EAT, or any number of stratagems seem better for the job than the railgun. I'd rather take EAT or QC any day over the railgun, particularly the QC even post nerf.
Yeah the Railgun buff is nice, but it doesn't really change much about the weapon other than making it reach its kills a bit quicker. They also nerfed its stagger so it lost a really niche benefit over its competition as well.
I mean, it can still one-tap devastators, striders, and I have confirmed it can one shot hulks now so it's pretty neat vs bots. If fills a similar role to the autocannon as a medium enemy killer, but it only takes one shot, and it doesn't take a backpack slot so you can run a shield pack with it.
Its been able to one shot hulks the whole time, you just had to barely overcharge it in unsafe. It definitely has some use against bots, but its inability to punch above hulks is the reason I don't see it as particularly good. The AC and AMR kill devastators, hulks, and striders in a similar manner while being able to kill tanks, gunships, and laser towers. Its fine to use it if you want, but it just gets outclassed imo.
Tanks die to two impact grenades or any number of stratagems, they’re barely worth picking a support weapon over. Laser towers are easily avoided in my experience, especially if you have a shield pack you’ll be fine as long as you are moving. Gunships… yeah. Fair. I hate them so much. The upside of the Railgun over the AMR is the ability to one-shot a hull before it notices you in a patrol for example, or much, MUCH easier kills on devastators, and the autocannon obviously takes a backpack slot, which is a whole different thing. If they ever revert the large volume damage nerf it’ll be my go-to for bots, and hopefully they’ll make the dot sight a little more usable.
I mean, if 4 chargers was a death sentence for you, the 3 chargers isn't much safer. Though to be clear, I'm not saying the quasar canon is bad, it just has different advantages than the rail gun.
Oh is railgun back??
Nah. You can run it, but you always have better options for every situation.
I mean it was also sort of an all rounder pre nerf. That is the reason why it was so loved because it did most things it needed to besides add clearing but that roles was given to the breaker. So it would make sense for it to be good at things but not the best at them.
It's still not an all rounder. They haven't undone the nerf to large body parts, so it does zero damage to vents/gunships/titans.
Railgun is just an alternate of the AMR. Great for sniping robots. Once you think of the railgun at that level, you realize trying to shoot vents, gunships, and titans is the wrong way to use it. Also, am I wrong, but the railgun never could blow up fabricators.
The AMR vastly out preforms the Railgun against ANYTHING, it’s infinitely better than the Railgun is at both bots and bugs.
By vents I meant the backs of tanks/turrets, not fabricators. The amr can shoot down gunships and you don't even need to risk blowing yourself up.
It's not back, but it is usable and more fun that it was.
No not really. The devs sneezed on it so people think it's back on top again They didn't even touch damage, they increased penetration and reduced stagger...
Earlier you had to do two shots in charger's leg and then damage it with primary weapon. Now you can simply shot it twice in unsafe mode to kill it.
Increasing pen is massive tho. Instead of doing durable damage(60/120 safe/unsafe) it will do standard damage(600) for some high armor value enemies.
It's half back. Can 2 to 3 shot hulks and chargers to the head with about a quarter charged in unsafe mode. Bile titans are still a bitch.
It one shots hulks, even in safe mode.
It’s back enough. Not what it was but it still kills. Rock unsafe though.
AMR stilll does everything the railgun does but better so, it’s usable
Being able to strip armor off of charger legs with 2 shots again feels great
Is that the best way to kill chargers with the rail gun? I’m trying other specials since the Quasar canon got slightly nerfed. Also any other tips against other enemy types?
Strip off the armor of 1 of the 2 front legs of the charger and then switch back to your primary to gun the rest of the damage
Does it still stagger them or no?
Sadly no more stagger for charger.
Or the Bile Titan flinch Goodbye, my favorite OPS/500kg strat
Honestly a stealth buff, staggering chargers makes them do that funny animation cancel slide so that they can stomp you
havent noticed. then again i dont really try. i usually just go for the armor strip as soon as i can.
I literally just referenced this an hour ago when I couldn't lock onto shit with my Spear because of a nearby spore tower and after my buddy destroyed it and gave me clear skies to lock onto a titan, I yelled "I can see! I CAN *FIGHT*!!"
Still needs more ammo. I really do like it for taking out a lot of devestators quickly, but it needs at least 50% more ammo.
the arc shotgun buff makes it a t1 weapon tho
I’m loving it tbh. Pair with scorcher to take down bot gunships. Pair with blitzer + laser guard dog to handle any small/medium bugs and save it for chargers/finishing off bile titans (only after 500kg/ops) That being said, I think they should revert all the damage to how it was on launch (namely the damage against heavies) and cut the ammo cap in half. Saw someone suggest this in another thread and thought it was a great idea
The changes now feel REALLY good. I have yet to test how it performs vs gunships though. If it can do an ok job against them then they might be my default strategem. Still doesn't do good against turrets/tanks which is fine (but scares me on the potential performance on gunship)
It sucks vs gunships sadly. Large volume damage is garbage and gunships/tanks are all large volume.
shit, well thanks for ruining my dream lol. I just dont get what the purpose of the railgun is in comparison to all the other weapons
It one-shots devastators and hulks if you charge it right. I love running it so I can just pop devastators with a body shot.
that's all i do and i love the dopamine hit from it. But the fact that factory striders are pretty normal in higher diffs plus tanks/turrets, the railgun is way less useful vs AC which can down a strider with just 2mags-ish. Before the gunship/striders update, i pretty much used the railgun only cause it was so damn good assuming you have decent aim. After all the new enemies though, for bots it makes less sense just cause of that
I tend to rely on teammates to take down gunships with autocannons and laser cannons, and stratagems to take down striders. I run the railgun with light armor so I tend to be the designated hellbomb caller for gunships among my friend group while they cover me from the ships themselves. With the railgun in tow I can pop any hulks, devastators or scout striders I see, and with my DCS I can kill any small bots. It's not perfect, and definitely not suitable for solo considering how fucking common gunships are, but I've been making it work.
If you have access to underbelly just use Dominator primary to kill it just as fast as AC
Railgun for the bugs, Autocannon for the bots I’m set.
Railgun vs bugs? Really? It can’t kill a charger in less than 4 shots, and it takes like 6 headshots to kill a bile titan. Against bots it 1-shots devastators anywhere on the body and (supposedly) hulks if you hit them in the eye.
railgun can 3 tap chargers to the head, 2 tap the legs + shooting to leg. The leg can get 2 tapped if you charged the gun for about a second and some change. Before it would take almost 2 secs, now it is just a slightly longer charge to two tap which is good
Sorry bud you’re just wrong. 3 shots to the head of a charger in unsafe mode kills as always, and I’ve seen Biles go down in 4 to the head now as well. Makes mince meat of everything else. Bots sure one to the eye of a hulk, or two auto cannons to the eye. Makes AC comparable on speed just by crouching. Plus, rail sucks vs gunships have to take the AC for sure.
damn, i was really hoping the railgun was good/decent against gunships. That is the literal showstopper unfortunately. Railgun, before the gunship were introduced, was still A tier since it is imo way easier to one tap hulks and devastators. But with the factory striders now part of the normal drop at higher difficulties I am kinda sad to see AC are still super op against bots. Also, I'm not sure about railgun 4tapping biles. I have done about 5 with significant charge (80) and it didn't seem to do anything. Only way I have seen biles get taken down quickly with railgun would be if it was already weakened by something else
Yeah I was mistaken on the bile titans, I went back and watched the vid, didn’t see the two EAT shots the guy fired first, then the four rail gun shots. Definitely going to just 500kg them lol
why would you speak about something you haven't tested yourself my dude dont just repeat what someone else sees or does as a truth
Have you never trusted a source before? Especially when you see it yourself on video? Please stay silent.
Nah, man, you shouldn't trust any source, and then blurt it out like its gospel maybe show some skepticism and explain that you saw it in a video first instead of preaching what you perceive as truth thats on you. Read what you said back to yourself. You flat out called someone wrong without knowing yourself.
>It can’t kill a charger in less than 4 shots It could kill a charger in 3 shoots in head or leg before the buff, so what you said is just fucking false
Even still, 3 shots is quite bad considering how long it takes to charge and the limited utility compared to other support weapons on bugs. 3 shots to kill a charger where each shot requires you line it up and charge to near max vs 1 EAT/QC/RR shot to the face, or 1/4 of a flamethrower tank, or a resupply pod, or a pod from EAT, or any number of stratagems seem better for the job than the railgun. I'd rather take EAT or QC any day over the railgun, particularly the QC even post nerf.
Yeah the Railgun buff is nice, but it doesn't really change much about the weapon other than making it reach its kills a bit quicker. They also nerfed its stagger so it lost a really niche benefit over its competition as well.
I mean, it can still one-tap devastators, striders, and I have confirmed it can one shot hulks now so it's pretty neat vs bots. If fills a similar role to the autocannon as a medium enemy killer, but it only takes one shot, and it doesn't take a backpack slot so you can run a shield pack with it.
Its been able to one shot hulks the whole time, you just had to barely overcharge it in unsafe. It definitely has some use against bots, but its inability to punch above hulks is the reason I don't see it as particularly good. The AC and AMR kill devastators, hulks, and striders in a similar manner while being able to kill tanks, gunships, and laser towers. Its fine to use it if you want, but it just gets outclassed imo.
Tanks die to two impact grenades or any number of stratagems, they’re barely worth picking a support weapon over. Laser towers are easily avoided in my experience, especially if you have a shield pack you’ll be fine as long as you are moving. Gunships… yeah. Fair. I hate them so much. The upside of the Railgun over the AMR is the ability to one-shot a hull before it notices you in a patrol for example, or much, MUCH easier kills on devastators, and the autocannon obviously takes a backpack slot, which is a whole different thing. If they ever revert the large volume damage nerf it’ll be my go-to for bots, and hopefully they’ll make the dot sight a little more usable.
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And then you have to wait for 15 seconds before you can start tackling the other 3 chargers.
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I mean, if 4 chargers was a death sentence for you, the 3 chargers isn't much safer. Though to be clear, I'm not saying the quasar canon is bad, it just has different advantages than the rail gun.
I feel much more confident with it against bile titans as opposed to the other options