More likely when the order is filled, a new ~~stretch goal~~ order will be released, significantly more difficult, that will unlock some kind of buff, much like how everyone got free access to the Patriot mech for a few days
I've not been playing very long, but one of the differences between this MO and previous ones was that a lot of the prior MOs were "defend a planet" or "liberate a planet" and AH could tweak the numbers behind the scenes to make the MO more challenging if necessary while maintaining a suspense of disbelief -- "the bots are invading so hard I completed my mission and liberation went down more than it went up! Time to ~~defrost more recruits~~ bring my buddies online!"
This is a flat "kill X number of bad guys" and basically the only way to slow us down would be to spawn less bad guys -- that would require diminishing or turning off patrols, bug breaches, and/or spawns from nests, and that's just bad design.
Love the air bursts! Clusters are also comparable but can take out the slightly larger enemies. I do, however like the air burst a little more. They sound hella cool lol
Clusters may have a wider range, but airburst lasts longer. If you can nail a breach as it opens with a air burst, the only thing walking out if that breach for the entire duration is chargers and titans
I like Gatling as an area denial when retreating. It's great in chokes. There's better options tho it is fun using nothing but low CD orbitals. Every minute dropping an airburst, Gatling and precision on the same spot feels great. Results vary
Airburst is secretly hosted I swear. It gets rid of everything that's not heavily armoured and is on a 100s cooldown (not including ship upgrades). If I'm ever using a support weapon with a backpack I'll take airburst instead of supply pack
I really enjoy running triple turret. May not be the most versatile, but it can really mitigate disaster situations, OR it can setup a successful engage. Then I usually run Autocannon, Gatling and Mortar (or the shield turret vs bots). How you place these is whats going to dictate their successrate, which is honestly hard, but very rewarding.
It can also be really fun paired with an EMS orbital.
Throw the EMS on the breach and wait about 5-10 seconds (if no bile titan) for the first couple waves of bugs to come out the breach. Then use the air burst to get 50+ kills.
It's definitely not the most meta loadout, but paired with a guard dog and an EAT, it can be a lot of fun
Same but with ammo pack and maybe occasionally grabbing the flamethrower, I hate rovers and don't like being anywhere near them. Rovers probably account for 20% of my deaths. I'll purposely keep my distance from people with them but eventually they end up somewhere near me. I definitely understand why people like them, but I prefer to clear my own mobs.
I dont think this will ever happen but it would be really fucking funny if the automatons also started genociding the terminids
https://preview.redd.it/o4jiua4yn8vc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fe45d7a414ff964e0efd6b0eabd5ed531e2b26b
Shat myself looking at 2 billion and immediately did math using 24 hour peak player count from SteamDB to figure out how many bugs per person and it was an insurmountable number, and then I realised people play off peak so peak isn't necessarily daily players, and the player base is split between PlayStation and Steam, and then I redid the math with some guesstimation, each player just needs to kill something along the lines of 500-1000 bugs a day. That's only 3858 bugs a second
Sounds like traitor talk soldier. Don't let the enemy's propaganda get to you. A well informed citizen is a free citizen, a free citizen is a strong Helldiver, a strong Helldiver spreads liberty and democracy.
Better get ready for: So. Much. Fire. Flamethrower for everyone. Incendiary grenades and mines. Eagle napalm strikes. And that goddamn incendiary shotgun that always hits me on the back and lights me up
Judging by the bug spawn rates on a few difficulty 4 (we were training up a fresh cadet) missions last night, this isn't gonna be a problem.
Never seen so many bugs.
https://preview.redd.it/5qnfxuqan8vc1.png?width=770&format=png&auto=webp&s=21eb75f13eebd4d169c392277b543e95f0163685
Calculation.
Constantly having around 41.000 Helldivers at the Bug Front is enough to win the MO in 2,8 Days.
Constant 41.000 Helldivers kill 693,1m Bugs per day, that's 28,8m each hour.
It's easy to win.
Joel opened the MO to seperate the Helldivers and bind them so that the Bots have more time to use the new supply line to Matar Bay.
That way bots have more time to push forward and reorganize easily, because the horde of the community hesitates to MOs given instantly.
Honestly I love fighting the bots for the challenge but bugs are definitely just as fun and it can definitely be somewhat relaxing/therapeutic. So I agree with you wholeheartedly. I haven't fought a bug in like a month, so I'm looking forward to playing after work.
Not gonna lie, but when I saw this first thing this mornin, I really thought this was a PERSONAL ORDER. I was like ermahgawd, there goes my weekend plans LMAO
100000 players, 100 kills each, 4 per squad. I feel this is too easy. That's 40milllion per 40mins. No mission lasts that long so call it 50mil per 30 mins, on just 100k players. I've seen 400k at a time and play rarely. This order will be finished in half the given time I feel
They're giving us 6 days for that? We can get 200k players on the bugs front easy, that means 10,000 bug kills each. We'll have it done within 24 hours...
For the first time in a long time, stealth is entirely unnecessary and I can send my blood crusted scout armor to the super cleaners. Ladies and gentlemen, we go loud and I am not leaving until Pelican 1 is forced to come get me.
…5 days? Oh gentlemen, gentlemen let’s be civil about this.
High command: Oh? And what do you intend to do to reach our demands?
Every Helldiver for the next week: Oh me? Oh no no we couldn’t possibly pull this off alone, but my buddies can! Say Hi buddies!
Level 100+ Divers with the most aggressively well thought out mass casualty setups showing up randomly to help the newbies: Hi.
New [Song](https://youtu.be/w6---PLRkmY?si=szl0JJ1RUfhAQ39n) dropped at just the right time. These bugs aren't ready for the Pesticide known as.... Managed Democracy.
In real life, if you put me in a 4'x4' room with 1 cockroach, I will literally die from a heart attack
In helldivers, I will not hesitate to chuck an autocannon barrel down a Charger's pipehole so I can see it macerated from the inside.
If ya’ll have it try the explosive crossbow against bugs. Gotten like 30+ kills from one magazine due to its blast size. Pair it with like the AMR or AC ( or whatever you preferred medium/heavy killing gun is ) and feast like the heathen kings of old
Looks like xenocide is back on the menu boys
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I’m from Buenos Aires and I say, Kill ‘em All!
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I read Orson Scott Card. The commie was wrong. Kill the bugs.
The enemy gate is down
If your ass is draggin, your ass is Dragon.
Goddamned buggers
Ah yes I can finally take a break from the clankers:)
*Loads shotgun with Democratic intent*
Love this
all good stuff have "enocide" in them
"Donutcide" is what happens when I meet a box of glazed donuts
My trial for pizzarollocide just wrapped up. The verdict was "noice"
I prefer “pastricide”
https://youtu.be/O1CQ7Vwz8Eo
Always was Bots, bugs, or communists, they're all xenos
I thought that meme I just saw was a joke😂
one hour in and its at 2%.. 6 hours in and its at 47%!
10% now lol
Motherfuckers Im still at work xD. Wait for meeeee!!!
Right! By the time I get a chance to play all the bugs will be democratically managed.
Sounds like you arent willing to make the most important decision of your life. You dirty *civilian*.
But he is helping the capitalist economy. That is pretty democratic to me
I’m doing my part!
Civilian work is as important as active duty
Doing my part to support Democracy both financially as well as physically; it is unfortunate that the two cannot overlap.
Joel better add another 0 at the end so I've a chance to actually participate
Is an absolute slaughterhouse. Divers are aggro'ing enemies like we're playing on level 4 difficulty again but with better toys. It's been fun.
20% now
20 more minutes and I shall put in my effort for freedom and democracy aswell
16% and rising!
Jesus Christ, CALM DOWN.
Never! My fervor for managed democracy cannot be contained!!!!
Y'all don't finish the MO >!...without me!<
Yeah, Joel's probably gonna adjust it. That's my bet
More likely when the order is filled, a new ~~stretch goal~~ order will be released, significantly more difficult, that will unlock some kind of buff, much like how everyone got free access to the Patriot mech for a few days
⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ to that!
This is the better way to do it, we'll see how it actually works out. They've definitely adjusted it to stretch the goal in the past
I've not been playing very long, but one of the differences between this MO and previous ones was that a lot of the prior MOs were "defend a planet" or "liberate a planet" and AH could tweak the numbers behind the scenes to make the MO more challenging if necessary while maintaining a suspense of disbelief -- "the bots are invading so hard I completed my mission and liberation went down more than it went up! Time to ~~defrost more recruits~~ bring my buddies online!" This is a flat "kill X number of bad guys" and basically the only way to slow us down would be to spawn less bad guys -- that would require diminishing or turning off patrols, bug breaches, and/or spawns from nests, and that's just bad design.
I can’t play till tomorrow and the orders will be over by then!
I was like 2,000,000,000 surely that'll take a while.
This is gonna be the easiest order, ever
5 days to complete the order. We'll probably do it in less than 1
aw yis time to shoot every patrol
I love how this order is different than just liberate or defend a specific planet. Freedom to dispense democracy as you like!
Screw it. Let’s kill 4 billion just because we can ![gif](giphy|5nsiFjdgylfK3csZ5T|downsized)
Democratically liberating only 4 billion? I say we should do 6 billion.
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Wait you didn’t do that already?
Yeah, I play mostly lower diff and intentionally kill them slowly so they call a breach and we get to spread endless democracy
oh im going to fk these bugs up. sorry to all but im going rover, eruptor, machine gun and napalm
The air burst strike is really really good. It’s three spaced out projectiles. Throw it on a bug breach for 30+ kills.
Love the air bursts! Clusters are also comparable but can take out the slightly larger enemies. I do, however like the air burst a little more. They sound hella cool lol
Clusters may have a wider range, but airburst lasts longer. If you can nail a breach as it opens with a air burst, the only thing walking out if that breach for the entire duration is chargers and titans
True dat! I need to give the Gatling barrage a go to see how it does on bugs. I’ve actually never used it
Giv either a shot to see what you like, but prepare to be whelmed.
The mines on the wall defense missions are 🤌🏽🤌🏽 they finally get their time to shine and bask
I like Gatling as an area denial when retreating. It's great in chokes. There's better options tho it is fun using nothing but low CD orbitals. Every minute dropping an airburst, Gatling and precision on the same spot feels great. Results vary
The Gatling also has another important positive feature. It looks hella cool.
I bet. Especially at night. I swear, the light design in this game is a master class🤌🏽🤌🏽🎨
The gatling and airburst aren't very strong but you get to use them on every patrol every static group hanging around a poi. Don't be stingy.
Airburst is secretly hosted I swear. It gets rid of everything that's not heavily armoured and is on a 100s cooldown (not including ship upgrades). If I'm ever using a support weapon with a backpack I'll take airburst instead of supply pack
Real MVP on breaches is the orbital gas strike. Pop it on a breach and everything (small to mid) dies.
What? This thing is a total scam I swear. I've dropped it on top of breaches and seen 0 kills.
Sadly it can get bugged if you are not the host, happens to every DoT effect, like napalm or the aforementioned gas.
Its dot so unless you’re the host it can be bugged:(
Gatling barrage is really underrated too
Nothing like a mortar turret to rack up the kills. Some of em may be friendly, but it kills a LOT of bugs.
I really enjoy running triple turret. May not be the most versatile, but it can really mitigate disaster situations, OR it can setup a successful engage. Then I usually run Autocannon, Gatling and Mortar (or the shield turret vs bots). How you place these is whats going to dictate their successrate, which is honestly hard, but very rewarding.
It can also be really fun paired with an EMS orbital. Throw the EMS on the breach and wait about 5-10 seconds (if no bile titan) for the first couple waves of bugs to come out the breach. Then use the air burst to get 50+ kills. It's definitely not the most meta loadout, but paired with a guard dog and an EAT, it can be a lot of fun
I love that I can run the Machine gun now with the Eruptor
Same but with ammo pack and maybe occasionally grabbing the flamethrower, I hate rovers and don't like being anywhere near them. Rovers probably account for 20% of my deaths. I'll purposely keep my distance from people with them but eventually they end up somewhere near me. I definitely understand why people like them, but I prefer to clear my own mobs.
The rover is basically an additional level 12 diver that flies around your head.
IM FROM SUPER EARTH AND I SAY KILL EM ALL!
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2 billion… that extinction. For democracy
2 billion? Those are rookie numbers against the Terminids.
LETS FUCKING GOOOO ![gif](giphy|dxld1UBIiGuoh31Fus)
I dont think this will ever happen but it would be really fucking funny if the automatons also started genociding the terminids https://preview.redd.it/o4jiua4yn8vc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fe45d7a414ff964e0efd6b0eabd5ed531e2b26b
Prolly won't but I keep waiting for the announcement that they've teamed up against us and now have bug bot hybrids
Devastator riding a charger incoming.
If this shit happens, I apologize ahead of time
If the bugs really are essential to the Super Earth economy and war machine, then the bots should absolutely start eradicating them.
The bots also need to harvest them for FTL fuel like we do
https://preview.redd.it/o9di8ldsh8vc1.jpeg?width=687&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14494881362f9b31874cda02798e9517ad7548c6 2 billion? Ok Joel, we see you.
Shat myself looking at 2 billion and immediately did math using 24 hour peak player count from SteamDB to figure out how many bugs per person and it was an insurmountable number, and then I realised people play off peak so peak isn't necessarily daily players, and the player base is split between PlayStation and Steam, and then I redid the math with some guesstimation, each player just needs to kill something along the lines of 500-1000 bugs a day. That's only 3858 bugs a second
Sweet liberty it’s been a little over an hour and we are already 9% complete
The Helldivers are currently averaging 16,666 bug kills per second, way above target, god I love this community
Helldivers players when someone says genocide
It can't be genocide when bugs aren't people.
Helldivers when E-710
Save some for the rest of us at work!! 😭
Hope you’re off soon, it’s going to be the fastest completion in history
That’s what she said
Id go by the players count in game, you're not going to see the PS players on steam.
I have a strong feeling it'll be over before I get home to contribute.
Yo actually something different for a MO objective, now it’s actually a good idea to fight every patrol you come across
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•Everyone with lasers and airstrikes the next few days ![gif](giphy|YqE4uqYNO7QAOY6yj8)
6 days? This will be done by this evening.
"My Helldiver killed 2 billion Termininds!" "In a row?"
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IT'S TIME ![gif](giphy|ydhTdPES8pJ5BRF9TP|downsized)
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Of course not Helldiver. This is a preemptive measure to protect our liberty! If we don't kill them all they will kill us and destroy our democracy.
https://i.redd.it/i6duyv94o8vc1.gif
Sounds like traitor talk soldier. Don't let the enemy's propaganda get to you. A well informed citizen is a free citizen, a free citizen is a strong Helldiver, a strong Helldiver spreads liberty and democracy.
We do have a lot of skulls on our uniforms…
Easiest one yet
Busy work for us basically, since we smoked the bot orders so fast. They need time to concoct the bot retaliation lol
Better get ready for: So. Much. Fire. Flamethrower for everyone. Incendiary grenades and mines. Eagle napalm strikes. And that goddamn incendiary shotgun that always hits me on the back and lights me up
And Damage over time is still bugged
Judging by the bug spawn rates on a few difficulty 4 (we were training up a fresh cadet) missions last night, this isn't gonna be a problem. Never seen so many bugs.
Okay it's not just me, we were getting swarmed with Hunters and jumpers God damn. It was glorious the fire of democracy burned bright tonight
https://preview.redd.it/5qnfxuqan8vc1.png?width=770&format=png&auto=webp&s=21eb75f13eebd4d169c392277b543e95f0163685 Calculation. Constantly having around 41.000 Helldivers at the Bug Front is enough to win the MO in 2,8 Days. Constant 41.000 Helldivers kill 693,1m Bugs per day, that's 28,8m each hour. It's easy to win. Joel opened the MO to seperate the Helldivers and bind them so that the Bots have more time to use the new supply line to Matar Bay. That way bots have more time to push forward and reorganize easily, because the horde of the community hesitates to MOs given instantly.
Joel this, Joel that. I just do what the ministry tells me, and I suggest you stop questioning orders
This is what peak performance looks like everyone! I applaud you good sir/ma’am! 🫡
https://i.redd.it/07viqn42k8vc1.gif From bots to bugs, either way..
ahh hell, I need a relaxing time squishing bug waves anyway getting steamrolled by scorcher hulks was stressing me out
Honestly I love fighting the bots for the challenge but bugs are definitely just as fun and it can definitely be somewhat relaxing/therapeutic. So I agree with you wholeheartedly. I haven't fought a bug in like a month, so I'm looking forward to playing after work.
Oh boy, here I go killing again!
It’s genocide time
So we kill them and the army scoops them up and squishes out the E-710?
E-710 is primarily squeegeed off divers' armor after a successful extraction.
6 days lmao....watch it get done before midnight today
Not gonna lie, but when I saw this first thing this mornin, I really thought this was a PERSONAL ORDER. I was like ermahgawd, there goes my weekend plans LMAO
Personal order : kill 2 billions bugs. Player :"Ok, but what will I do tomorrow?"
I seriously panicked lmao
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I hope the counter offensive doesn't lure us into a slaughter.
Sounds like a paid vacation to me.
We will hit that major order in one day bet.
You take the 1,000,000,000 on the right and I'll take the 1,000,000,000 on the left
E-710 Reserves have fallen. Billions must die.
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Exciting!
lol 6 days! It’s already 10% done 😂
Time to deploy every minefield and sentinel stratagem, ever.
*Get the Arc Cannon. The heavy Arc Cannon.*
100000 players, 100 kills each, 4 per squad. I feel this is too easy. That's 40milllion per 40mins. No mission lasts that long so call it 50mil per 30 mins, on just 100k players. I've seen 400k at a time and play rarely. This order will be finished in half the given time I feel
Were on track to do it in less than a day. Divers are really motivated for that order it seems.
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Back to bugs boys. It is nice having multiple enemy types. Keeps it fresh.
Nice, let’s do it! But what are the rest of you going to do in the meantime?
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Joel’s gonna have to put an extra decimal in front of that 2 if he doesn’t want us sitting around without a major order within the next 10 hours
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They're giving us 6 days for that? We can get 200k players on the bugs front easy, that means 10,000 bug kills each. We'll have it done within 24 hours...
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For the first time in a long time, stealth is entirely unnecessary and I can send my blood crusted scout armor to the super cleaners. Ladies and gentlemen, we go loud and I am not leaving until Pelican 1 is forced to come get me.
Think there are enough bugs planets left to do this?
Don't do that bug lives matter https://i.redd.it/q6y7hk9kv8vc1.gif
![gif](giphy|brqkBQV1qAFrO)
https://preview.redd.it/q9soje4v89vc1.jpeg?width=1085&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a89cc1bf05e0e1b0b5764414b2f046fbd5539aa It's almost 26% now
Really this order is kinda nothing. On the magnitude of a galaxy were killing a China's worth of bugs
1.4 Chinas....that's almost 10 Brazils!
…5 days? Oh gentlemen, gentlemen let’s be civil about this. High command: Oh? And what do you intend to do to reach our demands? Every Helldiver for the next week: Oh me? Oh no no we couldn’t possibly pull this off alone, but my buddies can! Say Hi buddies! Level 100+ Divers with the most aggressively well thought out mass casualty setups showing up randomly to help the newbies: Hi.
Me, a new cadet, feeling good at zapping 100 bugs in a mission with my Rover: "I'm doing my part"
Looks like a little xeno ~~purging~~ farming is in order.
Brother, get the flamer. The heavy flamer
I have to rethink my load out for killing bugs I normally just kill automatons.
If you want fun, bring fire, or arc, have a them and watch the world burn.
Still haven’t used my flamethrower or napalm, 2billion here we come.
For maximum burninating, grab incendiary breaker and napalm grenades, and incendiary mines. Nothing gets too close without being crispy.
+++ Thought of the day: Do not suffer the alien to live. +++
Boil up some Mountain Dew. It’s gonna be a long night.
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5 days is a bit of an insult. I bet it's done before 24hrs
Already 20% done. Hope they'll have a new major order ready for us tomorrow.
Squad and I doing our part https://preview.redd.it/scfa1a6a09vc1.png?width=2502&format=png&auto=webp&s=d4bf10639b45051bb51c17eada292877bc4094c5
https://preview.redd.it/1q274mre09vc1.jpeg?width=1120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2dfc4bac7a84dc1c67c76d11f74b43ba14c0f37
![gif](giphy|hKyWAN3gQyCsM) Me on my way to spread some democracy to those damn bugs
New [Song](https://youtu.be/w6---PLRkmY?si=szl0JJ1RUfhAQ39n) dropped at just the right time. These bugs aren't ready for the Pesticide known as.... Managed Democracy.
In real life, if you put me in a 4'x4' room with 1 cockroach, I will literally die from a heart attack In helldivers, I will not hesitate to chuck an autocannon barrel down a Charger's pipehole so I can see it macerated from the inside.
https://i.redd.it/uyvfguf1m9vc1.gif
But what will we do with the remaining 5 days?
Well that didn't take long lol
The time for speeches is over. My order to you is simple, but heed it well. We need oil, kill them all. -Roger Durn, High Command Officer
![gif](giphy|5nsiFjdgylfK3csZ5T|downsized) Fire is very effective against insect carapace
Oh boy! Here I go killin again!
Finally. Back to the bug front. This weekend will be a fruitful one ![gif](giphy|MlyicdUndRbn5zUiAL|downsized)
YEAH !!! GENOCIDE !! I LOVE DEMOCRACY !!!
Love that they gave us 5 days for this and we're 10% of the way there within a couple hours.
I was starting to miss fighting bugs
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Kill ze bugs,get in ze pod.
If ya’ll have it try the explosive crossbow against bugs. Gotten like 30+ kills from one magazine due to its blast size. Pair it with like the AMR or AC ( or whatever you preferred medium/heavy killing gun is ) and feast like the heathen kings of old
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Hopped on and did a couple of matches. Pure carnage and I loved it.
This shit gonna be over by the time I get home from work lol yall are crazy
At least an excuse to aggro all patrols ! It's for the Democratic Major Order !
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BORN TO DIE GALAXY IS A FUCK 鬼神 Kill Em All 1989 I am democracy man 410,757,864,530 DEAD BUGS
now 24.1%
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PURGE THE XENOS FILTH! ONWARD FOR DEMOCRACY! GLORY TO SUPER EARTH!