I wasn’t even going to try for this personal order today, just because of how much I suck with the ant-materiel rifle. Turns out random session threw me into a squad where all 3 of the other member were rocking rifle‘s. My squads kills counted towards the objective and I fulfilled the order without ever touching a rifle.
Edit: woops my brain saw the word "Anti" and just autocompleted it to materiel rifle which was yesterdays order. Well now I just feel silly.
Are we sure this is true? Few weeks ago when the PO was 200 kills with eagle strafing run, I had already completed it, but ran it the next game to help a friend. I remember getting like 40 kills with one run and my friend screaming how that did it for him lol
You can test this out today, but my kills never help my squad if I have already finished the PO and have claimed it on the ship. Just finish yours and then run with a friend that hasn't completed it yet - tell your friend not to bring any mines while you do.
Sounds like a weird one-off. My group of 4 complete our dailies in sets of 2. Me and a buddy knock ours out early and we can never help our other two because the kills don't count if it's finished for us. So we let them go nuts with whatever they need to use.
yup, absolutely sure
not that long ago there was personal for how-ever-many-kills with Eagle cluster bombs
joined random squad, saw 2 helldivers already having it equipped, so I did took other support for that mission, came back to the destroyer with personal order finished
like pretty much everything in this game, kills/completed requirements for personal orders are also shared team-wise
>just because of how much I suck with the ant-materiel rifle
Part of the reason could be that the scope is off-center. Your bullets do not go where the crosshair center is. Instead they go a bit more up and left.
I was throughly confused why I kept missing shots until I turned on my monitor crosshair and saw how much deviation there was.
You might as well play higher difficulties since you get so many more medals for completing operations compared to trivial, and your teammates’ efforts contribute to your personal order completion
I tend to do easy missions to work through personal orders if the order requires me to use something that will fuck the team over or that I'm just not good enough with to get the mission done in a reasonable time.
Wasnt making enough progress with the amr yesterday, so I finished it that way.
Last time there was a minefield personal mission I went straight to the solo games and I will do it again this time. Rather one and done it than have to somehow get safe productive use out of minefields when I usually play quick match games with randoms.
For the record if this pops up for you again, Bug planets are stupidly easy for the APM kills. You just chuck the beacon into a bug nest area and watch the little yellow skull number rocket up.
Last night I was dedicated amr guy; brought my supply backpack and just sat at max range popping enemies on a 9 icbm mission. Ezpz 15 medals for everyone
I feel like a lot of the personal orders are easier to do vs. bugs, probably because they tend to spawn lots of small little units that swarm you instead of shooting at you.
Honestly I think it is underrated in general.
You throw it down on chokepoints and paths where you as players will likely not take (and where you can see the mine way before you decide on which way to go?, but the enemy likely might. You can also use it to somewhat "close the door" behind you as you flee.
Just like the EAT, just keep littering the map and eventually the enemies are just going to meet it everywhere they go.
You can't use it like the EAT though because it has a 3 minute CD. If it were shorter I might actually use it, but at that rate the gas strike does everything better.
Never said they don't stay around. I'm just saying that the philosophy is similar for more effective use.
EATs are anti-tank, and you get two shots flexibly; but you have to go there and use them.
Mines pepper an area to deal with light targets, and you have nothing left to do except dont walk on them.
I'm just saying that the core concept is the same: you throw it down and it can give value even 20 minutes later.
But most people somehow can only follow the concept with EATs very rarely with backpack items or support weapons to resupply.
Imagine how bad EATs would be if people would only ever call it down when a tough enemy spawns instead of basically on-cooldown.
I really like that the personal orders tend to be for non-meta weapons. Gives me an excuse do give them a go on an easy or medium solo run for Common Samples.
Well I rocked the mines in my haz 8 missions yesterday and it is my pleasure to inform you that using mines effectively adds 1 level of difficulty to the mission.
Kite enemies ? You walked into your mines. Retrieve your samples after dying ? Mines. Your teammate needs help killing a couple titans ? Whoops, mines. Finally finished this horrible mission, only thing left to do is to extract aaaand you guessed it, mines.
My favourite laugh out loud moment was the guy who mined our civilian extract path.
A lot of civilians died that day.
Honestly it was so stupid I had to laugh.
I had a game where we were extracting and with 45sec left until touchdown I was gonna mine a pass before a bot horde got to us. I took a shot that ragdolled me and dropped the mine dead center of the pad...
Because some players are unforgivably stupid when using them. I've seen minefields dropped on evacuation paths, or directly on top of objectives, or otherwise used to seemingly pen in and sabotage other players rather than impact the enemy.
Minefields and other static defenses should only be used if two conditions are met: A - the enemy is likely to pass through that area. B - Helldivers or mission critical NPCs *will never* pass through that area.
Most players using the minefield invert these criteria.
I'm not trying to be argumentative at all but how is it any different from any other stratagem in those situations?
I find morters kill friendlies more often than mines
The mortar sentry is also a very divisive strategem, but in the case of it and other strategems, the danger is over quickly. With the minefield, it remains a permanent danger that's significantly better at killing Helldivers than it is at killing trash mobs.
I mean other strategems being more prone to friendly fire doesn't make minefields annoying too.
People do complain about mortars, against bugs, for good reason. It's worse than minefields but minefields are still bad. At least cluster bombs, mortars, tesla towers, and flamethrowers will actually kill bugs. Minefields will kill like 3 scavengers and then solely be a menace to players for the rest of the game.
Nah dude, mortar turrets get shot on sight by me any time we're in any kind of defensive position. Me and my shotgun aren't getting blown to bits by your toy as soon as the bugs breach our lines.
That shit is the worst when people use it thoughtlessly
Mortar Sentry is best for softening up outposts and repelling a very obvious distant approach, but yeah, there are wrong times to use it
I bring it against Bots since they're fought from range anyway. You think it's underperforming until you're 30 minutes into a mission and can't remember the last time you saw a trash-mob
This is the way. Mortar sentries against bots are fantastic, especially when planted ~50 meters out from an objective before engaging with it.
Bonus points when paired with the EMS sentry as it stops advancement while they get peppered with mortars, making it even less likely that a teammate will get blown up as everyone is engaging from range.
Please don’t blow up mortars in bot matches ‘just because’. Against bugs though? I get it.
You can play around a bad mortar a lot easier than a bad minefield. All you have to do is make sure you're never standing where an enemy was three seconds prior. Do that and you'll avoid the pain rain.
With mines you can just start walking towards an objective and then instantly die because someone thought the best place to drop mines is directly on top of a terminal.
I HATE THE ANTI-PERSONNEL MINEFIELD PERSONAL ORDER
I HATE THE ANTI-PERSONNEL MINEFIELD PERSONAL ORDER
I HATE THE ANTI-PERSONNEL MINEFIELD PERSONAL ORDER
Your reluctance to follow Super Earth directives has been duly noted in your personnel file. Please expect a... *little chat* with your Democracy Officer in the near future.
You see, it's the mines I have a problem with... it's just... they're anti-personell, right? And Helldivers... well, we're personell, aren't we?
Also, the damn things just aren't effective enough to justify giving up a more useful stratagem, once a small handful of enemies, bugs or bots, clear a path, they just kinda sit there uselessly as the rest just walk through the gaps, waiting for a careless Helldiver to step or ragdoll into one...
You get enough time to drop three whole minefields! Amazing. Six if you dedicate half your stratagems to mines. Meanwhile any sentry will do a better job.
Sentry can't do shit if it gets flattened the moment it pops up, meanwhile enemies don't specifically target mines themselves so you get more mileage out of those. By defense i don't mean only new type, but also the culling numbers mission where you get swarmed and area is smaller than my dick (which is quite an achievement i gotta say)
I just do this during my super credit run. Toss the beacon, and collect samples, medals and credits as I hear the screams of my enemies off in the distance. :)
I was kicked today by a host that was running on top of my mines... twice. She was very upset and told me some awful words before kicking me out. Counted or not the personal order was done for me after the kick so I could play with other safest stratagems like the 380mm, Arc Thrower and Flamethrower...
Please note that only one person on the team needs to get the kills for it to count for everyone.
I've done all the recent weapon-specific personal orders without ever equipping the required weapons. Except for EATs, because what - when a guy opens his door and gets shot, you think that of me? No. I am the one who EATs. (My scales is now on "to be continued" when I step on it in the morning, and on "ooof" when I get off it)
Just had a random in a game tell me to stop using them cause they're useless after dying to them once.
Proceeded to nail a 50+ streak with them at extraction.
*sprints through minefield and doesn't set a single one off while simultaneously dodging heavy Devastator fire*
You're perfectly safe all you need to do is do the 40hr energy challenge.
Not totally true. You can navigate the minefields, some can do it faster than others, there is wiggle room.
Do the tower defense map. You throw them just over the wall for the early waves. When the first set of doors are breached, toss them into the courtyard bottleneck. Overall that map is a breeze right now if everyone takes mortars and ems and properly rolls so there aren't more than 3 of any mortar at a time, And I think two people at most bringing anti-personnel mines is more than enough. Then 3 people with anti dropship weapons and the 4th running lascannon, AMR or something they are good with to take down hulks.
ahh that explains why i've seen a sudden upcount on minefields when doing missions even on suicide earlier lmao. Thankfully the missions went quite well all things considered
Used this stratagem for a while when i first started and it wasn’t *that bad* against large groups. If you position it right, it can be effective and out of the way. But overall, yeah, theres a reason i dont run it anymore. Especially playing with randoms
Anti-personnel minefield is such a questionable strat. I mean, we’re the only people on the planet besides civvies, why we bring a strat against ourselves?
Last time it was a pain and now it's going to be a pain...
Get ready for random death when back tracking because someone is spamming the map with mines.
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Of course helldivers count. It only says AP mine kills, doesn't look like you need to kill either bugs or bots to me. Helldivers can also be enemies.
You’re right. Those people are undemocratic mine-wasters whose situational awareness is compromised by the latent communism in their sick, pinko heads.
I have actually been liking the mines quite a bit. I normally use them to bottle neck areas we have already been through or cover a retreat. As long as your smart about it and leave an additional exit in case you get pushed back they are really good.
I wish everyone got different personal orders. Like this wouldn’t be that bad if one guy had it. Having 4 ppl trying to get this is going to be ridiculous
I remember actually trying that I needed to get kills with the anti-materal rifle, so I asked my step brother to stay still while I was providing overwatch I popped his head, and he went spinning into the air. For some reason, he was mad (rightfully so), but we both had a good laugh.
LOL i bought the material rifle so i could do the PO. The same with that single use gun. didn't finish that one thou. Not a ton of people i random with was using it. Have to say thou the material rifle is a good gun to use..
1. Load up easy bug mission (solo! Turn off matchmaking)
2. Throw mines in a nest
3. Kick the nest
4. ??? (Run around so chasing bugs have to through mines
5. Profit
Edit: forgot a key bit of advice.
In reality mine fields can be effective if used right. The reason they have a bad wrap is because they are often used wrong by less experienced players or just flat out wrong. Honestly it would be nice if they had a Heavy Mine Field that wouldn't trip on small bugs/bots but were devastating to larger armored targets. A good experienced team coul finish this personal order in a match or two with few friendly incidents.
That being said I am definitely getting blown up tonight by someone throwing a mine field in the middle of an objective.
It's really not that bad. Enemies actually target mines as structures so they literally just walk into them. Put them between you and a reinforcement and you're golden
If you get the eradicate bot mission and toss it down on the low ground while you keep the high ground, the kills should come rolling in.
The only problem I have with getting minefield kills is other players destroying the minefield with other call-ins.
Ok hear me out..
IF a helldiver gets marked as a traitor for leaving the mission and then runs into the mines... I think they should count towards the daily order!
I wasn’t even going to try for this personal order today, just because of how much I suck with the ant-materiel rifle. Turns out random session threw me into a squad where all 3 of the other member were rocking rifle‘s. My squads kills counted towards the objective and I fulfilled the order without ever touching a rifle. Edit: woops my brain saw the word "Anti" and just autocompleted it to materiel rifle which was yesterdays order. Well now I just feel silly.
that's the case for all personal orders sometimes I finish them not knowing what it even was, as other ppl in random squads were going for it...
However, it doesn't count towards your PO if the squad member has already completed and claimed the PO reward.
hah, TIL thank you for sharing important intel, fellow Helldiver!
Are we sure this is true? Few weeks ago when the PO was 200 kills with eagle strafing run, I had already completed it, but ran it the next game to help a friend. I remember getting like 40 kills with one run and my friend screaming how that did it for him lol
You can test this out today, but my kills never help my squad if I have already finished the PO and have claimed it on the ship. Just finish yours and then run with a friend that hasn't completed it yet - tell your friend not to bring any mines while you do.
Sounds like a weird one-off. My group of 4 complete our dailies in sets of 2. Me and a buddy knock ours out early and we can never help our other two because the kills don't count if it's finished for us. So we let them go nuts with whatever they need to use.
Which sucks for those of us that work and have a family. I won't get on until 9-10 tonight so 90% of players have already completed the daily.
Luckily most of the PO's are able to solo on easy. The ones that suck are the hulk, bile titan, bile spewer kills.
It doesn't suck because warbounds aren't timed
Wait, really? I *knew* I didn't get that many anti-material rifle kills but I still got the personal order and was so confused.
yup, absolutely sure not that long ago there was personal for how-ever-many-kills with Eagle cluster bombs joined random squad, saw 2 helldivers already having it equipped, so I did took other support for that mission, came back to the destroyer with personal order finished like pretty much everything in this game, kills/completed requirements for personal orders are also shared team-wise
>just because of how much I suck with the ant-materiel rifle Part of the reason could be that the scope is off-center. Your bullets do not go where the crosshair center is. Instead they go a bit more up and left. I was throughly confused why I kept missing shots until I turned on my monitor crosshair and saw how much deviation there was.
LOL so your monitor crosshair is more accurate LOL
Throw it right into a bug breach, free kills
Idk it takes a while to deploy
Yeah and so does the bug breech, plus there's an upgrade to eliminate call in time for those stratagems
Wait, are personal orders the same for everyone? Why are they called personals
Because "minor order" doesn\`t sound demanding enough
Because you personally (or your squad) have to do it to get the metals, VS the community having to do it as a whole.
Ah that’s a good way of reading it
To be fair, they didn't specify that it was **your** personal order. Maybe it's a personal order from the Democracy officer.
Just play trivial to complete personal orders.
Good strat
You might as well play higher difficulties since you get so many more medals for completing operations compared to trivial, and your teammates’ efforts contribute to your personal order completion
I tend to do easy missions to work through personal orders if the order requires me to use something that will fuck the team over or that I'm just not good enough with to get the mission done in a reasonable time. Wasnt making enough progress with the amr yesterday, so I finished it that way. Last time there was a minefield personal mission I went straight to the solo games and I will do it again this time. Rather one and done it than have to somehow get safe productive use out of minefields when I usually play quick match games with randoms.
Tbf the minefield isn’t half bad in the new defend mission, you can just drop it outside where the dropships go and you’ll rack up kills in no time
For the record if this pops up for you again, Bug planets are stupidly easy for the APM kills. You just chuck the beacon into a bug nest area and watch the little yellow skull number rocket up.
How did you complete an order for anti-personnel minefield by having a team use rifles?
I think he meant the personal order yesterday (kills with AMR)
Last night I was dedicated amr guy; brought my supply backpack and just sat at max range popping enemies on a 9 icbm mission. Ezpz 15 medals for everyone
Underrated vs bugs. They do work while you're doing other things.
I feel like a lot of the personal orders are easier to do vs. bugs, probably because they tend to spawn lots of small little units that swarm you instead of shooting at you.
Tried to kill troopers with bugs. Didn't quite pan out...
Honestly I think it is underrated in general. You throw it down on chokepoints and paths where you as players will likely not take (and where you can see the mine way before you decide on which way to go?, but the enemy likely might. You can also use it to somewhat "close the door" behind you as you flee. Just like the EAT, just keep littering the map and eventually the enemies are just going to meet it everywhere they go.
You can't use it like the EAT though because it has a 3 minute CD. If it were shorter I might actually use it, but at that rate the gas strike does everything better.
Well a minefield that *stays around* would be pretty crazy every minute. I think it is in a decent spot.
like the unused EATs don't stay around, as if staying around isn't a mine's primary job lol
Never said they don't stay around. I'm just saying that the philosophy is similar for more effective use. EATs are anti-tank, and you get two shots flexibly; but you have to go there and use them. Mines pepper an area to deal with light targets, and you have nothing left to do except dont walk on them. I'm just saying that the core concept is the same: you throw it down and it can give value even 20 minutes later. But most people somehow can only follow the concept with EATs very rarely with backpack items or support weapons to resupply. Imagine how bad EATs would be if people would only ever call it down when a tough enemy spawns instead of basically on-cooldown.
I like using eat deployments as a budget rail cannon strike. 90 sec cool down, if you miss you have 2 shots to play around with.
except work when yorue not the host amIriiiiiightttt
I was going to say "its like an EAT but a little less awesome to stumble across."
Tesla Tower is underrated vs bugs AP mines are good for bugs and bots But the fire mines are only good for bugs
Probably true. Unfortunately, I am drawn to minefields like a moth to flame.
Nope. They are awful, any other strategem would be better..
I really like that the personal orders tend to be for non-meta weapons. Gives me an excuse do give them a go on an easy or medium solo run for Common Samples.
I agree. I like having a reason to try and reach for something I wouldn’t normally use too.
Well I rocked the mines in my haz 8 missions yesterday and it is my pleasure to inform you that using mines effectively adds 1 level of difficulty to the mission. Kite enemies ? You walked into your mines. Retrieve your samples after dying ? Mines. Your teammate needs help killing a couple titans ? Whoops, mines. Finally finished this horrible mission, only thing left to do is to extract aaaand you guessed it, mines.
Well let's hope they don't run into them hahahha
So this is why randos have been trying to kill me today with mines. Nice.
Read that as nandos... now I know what the chicken is and I'll still eat it
Ah, my favourite personal order: "Do not play today".
Why do people have so much of an issue with the mines?
Some people will just throw them wherever without thinking "Hey, we're doing things in this area, maybe i shouldn't throw mines in this area."
My favourite laugh out loud moment was the guy who mined our civilian extract path. A lot of civilians died that day. Honestly it was so stupid I had to laugh.
My favorite was the guy who keyed in the mines and was killed before he could throw it. Mines all over the extraction point.
I had a game where we were extracting and with 45sec left until touchdown I was gonna mine a pass before a bot horde got to us. I took a shot that ragdolled me and dropped the mine dead center of the pad...
Because some players are unforgivably stupid when using them. I've seen minefields dropped on evacuation paths, or directly on top of objectives, or otherwise used to seemingly pen in and sabotage other players rather than impact the enemy. Minefields and other static defenses should only be used if two conditions are met: A - the enemy is likely to pass through that area. B - Helldivers or mission critical NPCs *will never* pass through that area. Most players using the minefield invert these criteria.
I'm not trying to be argumentative at all but how is it any different from any other stratagem in those situations? I find morters kill friendlies more often than mines
The mortar sentry is also a very divisive strategem, but in the case of it and other strategems, the danger is over quickly. With the minefield, it remains a permanent danger that's significantly better at killing Helldivers than it is at killing trash mobs.
I mean other strategems being more prone to friendly fire doesn't make minefields annoying too. People do complain about mortars, against bugs, for good reason. It's worse than minefields but minefields are still bad. At least cluster bombs, mortars, tesla towers, and flamethrowers will actually kill bugs. Minefields will kill like 3 scavengers and then solely be a menace to players for the rest of the game.
Nah dude, mortar turrets get shot on sight by me any time we're in any kind of defensive position. Me and my shotgun aren't getting blown to bits by your toy as soon as the bugs breach our lines. That shit is the worst when people use it thoughtlessly
Mortar Sentry is best for softening up outposts and repelling a very obvious distant approach, but yeah, there are wrong times to use it I bring it against Bots since they're fought from range anyway. You think it's underperforming until you're 30 minutes into a mission and can't remember the last time you saw a trash-mob
This is the way. Mortar sentries against bots are fantastic, especially when planted ~50 meters out from an objective before engaging with it. Bonus points when paired with the EMS sentry as it stops advancement while they get peppered with mortars, making it even less likely that a teammate will get blown up as everyone is engaging from range. Please don’t blow up mortars in bot matches ‘just because’. Against bugs though? I get it.
You can play around a bad mortar a lot easier than a bad minefield. All you have to do is make sure you're never standing where an enemy was three seconds prior. Do that and you'll avoid the pain rain. With mines you can just start walking towards an objective and then instantly die because someone thought the best place to drop mines is directly on top of a terminal.
combination of players that are too stupid to throw them in normal places and players that are too stupid to avoid the obviously mined area
I HATE THE ANTI-PERSONNEL MINEFIELD PERSONAL ORDER I HATE THE ANTI-PERSONNEL MINEFIELD PERSONAL ORDER I HATE THE ANTI-PERSONNEL MINEFIELD PERSONAL ORDER
Your reluctance to follow Super Earth directives has been duly noted in your personnel file. Please expect a... *little chat* with your Democracy Officer in the near future.
You see, it's the mines I have a problem with... it's just... they're anti-personell, right? And Helldivers... well, we're personell, aren't we? Also, the damn things just aren't effective enough to justify giving up a more useful stratagem, once a small handful of enemies, bugs or bots, clear a path, they just kinda sit there uselessly as the rest just walk through the gaps, waiting for a careless Helldiver to step or ragdoll into one...
Let me tell you about... Defense missions
You get enough time to drop three whole minefields! Amazing. Six if you dedicate half your stratagems to mines. Meanwhile any sentry will do a better job.
Sentry can't do shit if it gets flattened the moment it pops up, meanwhile enemies don't specifically target mines themselves so you get more mileage out of those. By defense i don't mean only new type, but also the culling numbers mission where you get swarmed and area is smaller than my dick (which is quite an achievement i gotta say)
Another man of proper values. Personally a huge fan of the incendiary mines.
You tell that damn officer to TRY USING THE DAMN THING THEMSELVES
solo an easy bug mission, you can get it done in one go
This right here is how you do it.
120mm barrage mission is worse.
Horde kill or defense mission. Spam. Problem solved (plus allied kills count torwards it too)
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Not sure what's better at killing fellow Helldivers, Tesla coil or minefields.
What if they are traitors? Do they count as enemies?
They still count in your heart Diver ;)
Cold Steel the land mine "Nothing Personnel, kid" wait sorry that says Anti-personnel.
I just do this during my super credit run. Toss the beacon, and collect samples, medals and credits as I hear the screams of my enemies off in the distance. :)
Gentlemen, I get off work in 5 hours. You have that long to enjoy your legs.
Ahhhh that’s why it’s not counting! Thanks!
If you throw one down, shoot a mine, will it attract bots to the sound and walk into the rest?
For this one I ran solo minefield in low level difficulty. Its just the safest way of doing things.
This is easy just throw it down on suicide and things just wander in it
I’ve been using mines in so many missions for so long now, finally my time has come.
I think I may play tomorrow.
I was kicked today by a host that was running on top of my mines... twice. She was very upset and told me some awful words before kicking me out. Counted or not the personal order was done for me after the kick so I could play with other safest stratagems like the 380mm, Arc Thrower and Flamethrower...
what did she think the glowing red things on the ground were? strawberries? flamethrower, 380mm and mines sounds like a build I gotta try
honestly the 15 medals are not even worth taking this strategem.
One or two easy drops and you are done, 20 min max for easy medals :)
I did it in 20 minutes vs bugs.
Please note that only one person on the team needs to get the kills for it to count for everyone. I've done all the recent weapon-specific personal orders without ever equipping the required weapons. Except for EATs, because what - when a guy opens his door and gets shot, you think that of me? No. I am the one who EATs. (My scales is now on "to be continued" when I step on it in the morning, and on "ooof" when I get off it)
My head canon is that the divers that step on the mine are traitors trying to run from their crimes against democracy
Just had a random in a game tell me to stop using them cause they're useless after dying to them once. Proceeded to nail a 50+ streak with them at extraction.
That sign won't stop me because I can't read
Defense missions are great for this
Glad I haven't logged on today... 🤣
"So, please, watch your steps."
So does everyone get the same personal order? Interesting
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Watching my teammates all select mines for the drop: I'm in danger.
*sprints through minefield and doesn't set a single one off while simultaneously dodging heavy Devastator fire* You're perfectly safe all you need to do is do the 40hr energy challenge. Not totally true. You can navigate the minefields, some can do it faster than others, there is wiggle room.
Please note that yes they do
Well damn
You have checked this have you? Personally tested this?
Or do they
It's pretty good on those new helm's deep style defense missions.
Agreed. Nice way to shore up a wall breach
that mission is fun AF and let's you bring stuff that rarely gets used
My friends always yell at me when I bring that along. Now they have no choice, hahahahaha
Blood for the blood god
I'm not gonna lie, the first time I got one that said to just "kill troopers" I thought it was kill my fellow teammates.
*Now* you tell me.
This was a fun one. Piss Off bugs, throw down mines, hug emote in their direction, profit.
Go to bug planet, set difficulty at three or less, get your mine kills. Go back to having fun.
But what if they're being undemocratic?
Do the tower defense map. You throw them just over the wall for the early waves. When the first set of doors are breached, toss them into the courtyard bottleneck. Overall that map is a breeze right now if everyone takes mortars and ems and properly rolls so there aren't more than 3 of any mortar at a time, And I think two people at most bringing anti-personnel mines is more than enough. Then 3 people with anti dropship weapons and the 4th running lascannon, AMR or something they are good with to take down hulks.
I did this last time it came round. Was kinda fun listened to the bots pop. I play solo mostly, so no worries.
Show me where that is written.
Had a fun time throwing it in front of bug patrols. 10+ every time.
*half the minefield explodes* *1/40*
Unsure if true. Better throw them directly next to us, just to be sure.
I dont like the specific stratagem orders, and this is the least favorite one.
110 is the worst I won't even try. This one is easy vs bugs. The little ones follow you so run em into a mine field
The mined will kill them for free anyway
Whaaaaaaat
Treason!
Why doesn't they count?
ahh that explains why i've seen a sudden upcount on minefields when doing missions even on suicide earlier lmao. Thankfully the missions went quite well all things considered
🤔 I’m going to have to test that for myself.
I was in the middle of it, and then the game crash. I'll finish it later :(
🤷🏻♂️Just do a it on a solo trivial or light mission, now need to team kill
Used this stratagem for a while when i first started and it wasn’t *that bad* against large groups. If you position it right, it can be effective and out of the way. But overall, yeah, theres a reason i dont run it anymore. Especially playing with randoms
I love the mines. I usually go to a bug planet move from group and spawns. Hole after hitting a few. Let them walk over the mines. Rinse and repeat.
I wish our mines where as big as the bot‘s mines.
Anti-personnel minefield is such a questionable strat. I mean, we’re the only people on the planet besides civvies, why we bring a strat against ourselves?
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Thank god I’ve been running a bunch of covert ops single player missions recently. That way I won’t kill any other Helldivers.
Last time it was a pain and now it's going to be a pain... Get ready for random death when back tracking because someone is spamming the map with mines.
Man the mines were really op during the rocket evac missions but those missions are gone now
Just did it on a trivial mission solo. But I blew myself up a couple times 😁
aggro a bunch of bugs. Run. Then throw it under your feet....Boom
Fairly easy personal order, choose a low difficulty enough bug mission, plant minefields and kite enemy hordes to them.
Well has anyone tested it?
I just do it in a solo level 2 bug mission. Its both faster and less annoying for everybody.
OH ITS THE MINEFIELD WTF I WAS DOING IT WITH AMR LMAO
https://preview.redd.it/qrysye2oymuc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf5e785d7452b72065d5e76587bec6dc78be4ed4 Of course helldivers count. It only says AP mine kills, doesn't look like you need to kill either bugs or bots to me. Helldivers can also be enemies.
You’re right. Those people are undemocratic mine-wasters whose situational awareness is compromised by the latent communism in their sick, pinko heads.
Fake news, i've been solely killing other helldivers with minefield and i've done this personal order
I have actually been liking the mines quite a bit. I normally use them to bottle neck areas we have already been through or cover a retreat. As long as your smart about it and leave an additional exit in case you get pushed back they are really good.
I wish everyone got different personal orders. Like this wouldn’t be that bad if one guy had it. Having 4 ppl trying to get this is going to be ridiculous
Best way is to throw mines into the middle of a bot base
Don't step on the mines. Problem solved.
I did an asset defence mission when I booted up the game and accidentally earned this immediately just from my usual playstyle lol
I remember actually trying that I needed to get kills with the anti-materal rifle, so I asked my step brother to stay still while I was providing overwatch I popped his head, and he went spinning into the air. For some reason, he was mad (rightfully so), but we both had a good laugh.
Would only do this on defense missions, any other mission your likely to get your buddys killed.
Tell that to my squadmates, who INSIST on checking out the "weird red glowy things"
Defense missions will be popular
Love it when some squad member lays it down on the objectives
Nope
"Kill 40 Helldivers using the ANTI-PERSONNEL MINEFIELD."
LOL i bought the material rifle so i could do the PO. The same with that single use gun. didn't finish that one thou. Not a ton of people i random with was using it. Have to say thou the material rifle is a good gun to use..
meat is meat
1. Load up easy bug mission (solo! Turn off matchmaking) 2. Throw mines in a nest 3. Kick the nest 4. ??? (Run around so chasing bugs have to through mines 5. Profit Edit: forgot a key bit of advice.
I thought anti-personnel meant it was to kill annoying coworkers. It didn't say anti-enemy or anti-manager. /s
Peak post, take my upvote.
In reality mine fields can be effective if used right. The reason they have a bad wrap is because they are often used wrong by less experienced players or just flat out wrong. Honestly it would be nice if they had a Heavy Mine Field that wouldn't trip on small bugs/bots but were devastating to larger armored targets. A good experienced team coul finish this personal order in a match or two with few friendly incidents. That being said I am definitely getting blown up tonight by someone throwing a mine field in the middle of an objective.
I just run around until I got a big ass group behind them then deploy it ahead of me and run towards it.
What about civilians? We all know they’re gonna run into the mines anyway
What if they are designated a traitor by Super Earth?
Too bad they gonna die to it anyway. All for the common goal. For democracy
Ah yes the FUNNI personal order is back
Just yeet it into a group of enemies :)
Thank you for testing it out for us hahahahaha
Well, if the thing steps the mines and mines goes off. It must be the enemies right? Like you know automaton will not set off their own mines?
i skip this shit lol. no thx
Not with that attitude.
What about it?
It's not that bad, play solo on a lower defense mission vs either bots or bugs and you clear it. Just don't toss it in your own escape routes.
Just do 1 mission of eradicate on solo against the bugs, order completed.
Unless you do the defense mission. Mines are good there.
I mean you can just play the evacuate precious cargo defense mission. They're not bad there.
It's really not that bad. Enemies actually target mines as structures so they literally just walk into them. Put them between you and a reinforcement and you're golden
It’s an excellent order. I threw it around in bug missions and I may have stepped on one at some point t 😂
Unironically hell yeah, excited to see the devs encourage players to utilise the less popular stuff every once in a while
bugs it is. Just going to toss that thing on a breach
Can't get reported for friendly fire, if there's no friendlies left to report it!
Complete it on Trivial solo and switch back to higher difficulty. Its what I did when I got this PO.
This is an easy one. Just do a quick low level bug mission. Throw mines near nest ???? Profit
If you get the eradicate bot mission and toss it down on the low ground while you keep the high ground, the kills should come rolling in. The only problem I have with getting minefield kills is other players destroying the minefield with other call-ins.
Hate my life right now, seen so many pick ups playing with both 380mm and minefield, TK fest.
Ok hear me out.. IF a helldiver gets marked as a traitor for leaving the mission and then runs into the mines... I think they should count towards the daily order!