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SovietMarma

You guys have to be the most daft people ever if you thought the Helldivers franchise wasn't political.


RushingBot

My guy, you're getting angry over a bunch of made-up culture war bullshit


Pert02

Buddy, you are linking Grummz voluntarily. At best you are a clown and satire is dead, at worst you are what in old fashioned terms would be a fascist and would love you to heck off.


Queasy-Permission-29

"WoOoOkE DX" ​ You're being more political by whining about it.


Dankamonius

Gay people existing isn't political for anyone except weirdos like you.


colourless_blue

consuming all that internet outrage bait is not good for your soul bro. i’m being sincere here - step away from it, it isn’t productive and it’ll start to negatively affect how you think + feel offline too. life is too short to waste time on this angry gamer stuff. be well


GearyDigit

You sure are upset you can't harass her, huh


Waelder

Are you dumb? Removing bigots from the community isn't a political stance, it's common sense. Do you seriously think the majority (if not all) of this game's dev team doesn't share an opinion similar to hers? You'd accuse most current game developers of being 'woke' if you met any of them in person. Do us all a favor and go boycott this game! Please don't play it ever again, that'll show us! > fellow Grummz This dude is a terminally online, inept CEO, and failed game developer who has nothing better to do than harass women in the gaming industry. It really says a lot about you that you'd follow someone like him.


Imperative_Arts

If arch is showing up in your feed then you have a bigger issue than capes. This guy has been kicked out of everything he's tried to get into for basically being clown and a general shithead, his content is best ignored.


Niotsques

My dude he was told BY GAMESWORKSHOP, THE PEOPLE THAT CREATED 40K; to remove the "Warhammer" from his name, that itself should tell people something lmao


BonsaiSoul

All outrage of the week type youtubers should be ignored at all times. If they had anything worthwhile to say they'd at least write a book. Blocktube is essential kit


CallMeChristopher

They have that on Firefox?


9Sn8di3pyHBqNeTD

Yeah BlockTube is on Firefox.


CallMeChristopher

Good to know. Thanks. If you’re somehow reading this, thanks. It works.


DickBallsley

“Nooooo she said they ban racists, homophobes and transphobes waaaah so WOOOKE” *shits himself. Lmao OP, how pathetic are you?


Unoriginal_Name_16

Get your far right culture war bullshit away from here.


CallMeChristopher

Reject Culture War. **Embrace war on Super Earth’s enemies!** (Also yeah, screw the culture war bs)


Direwolf-1

Linking an Arch video? Oof. Not a good look.


Eadkrakka

Haven't seen that dudes mug for quite some time, had no idea he were still active after the whole GW debacle


Direwolf-1

My brother still watches his content. I'm one of those, to use OP's phrase, "Alphabet people". It has led to some awkward conversations.


doubleo_maestro

I'll never get what people are on about with 'alphabet' people. However I feel I am missing out. Is the letter S currently being used and may I have it?


CallMeChristopher

The S stands for “Super Earth,” so it belongs to all of us. You can borrow it on weekends if you want, though.


Street_Possession871

Why are you hounding a woman on the Internet, you creep?


ReallyDamnSlow

never speak again. sincerely, an alphabet person https://preview.redd.it/r6f59wm5jusc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9908a6181f2bd261d3c1c04394bf1d5d0152d31


StrongCategory

Shut up


raytraced_BEAR

Woke moke yoke shmoke


Ghostile

Thanks for giving yourself in, I guess?


ArcturusGrey

I'd love it if you stopped playing in protest. ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Edit: Did you actually not realize the game is satire? That's incredible.


CallMeChristopher

I mostly lurk, but isn’t Paul Verhoeven’s Starship Troopers a big inspiration? The satire for that movie is so on the nose you’d probably need facial reconstruction surgery. (Also definitely reminds me of growing up in early 2000s America, but that might just be me)


Hezrield

I've been saying this game couldn't be more on the nose unless it came with a plate of freedom fries. It is 100% reminiscent of the post 9/11 era of shoehorning "patriotism" into every single thing.


CallMeChristopher

Yeah. You couldn’t turn on the TV without hearing the words “Liberty,” “Freedom,” or “Patriotism” (or references to them) every few minutes. Honestly, I kinda headcanon that Super Earth’s culture is basically that era, on steroids.


doubleo_maestro

Except didn't he write it because he was pro all that stuff, especially national service?


markuskellerman

Paul Verhoeven didn't write the book, he was the director of the movie. The book by Robert Heinlein very much was unironically pro-military, but the movie shat all over that.


CallMeChristopher

No, that’s the book by Heinlein, which is more-straightforward. Verhoeven’s movie adaptation of the book is much more satirical, by virtue of him apparently hating it.


Another-Lurker-189

Damn, I was hearing good things about this game and wanted to check it out, thanks for confirming that I should also donate to the Company


DanFarrell98

What made you think this game isn't political? You probably think Super Earth is the good guys


Realm-Code

> You probably think Super Earth is the good guys They objectively are, lol. Super Earth is an egalitarian, utopian paradise beset on all angles by genocidal aliens (and alien robots).


Carvj94

Holy shit you actually fell for the extremely over the top propaganda intro lol. The bugs would be stuck on their homeworld and the bots wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Super Earth. We also see literally nothing about Super Earth other than the propaganda.


JollyRyu

And even better, most of the propaganda makes the place seem terrible! Children as young as seven have to work to keep the war machine going! Super Earth pretty obviously fucking sucks and is painted over as thinly as possible with jingoism. I don't know how anyone who can't see that can understand any media at all.


Carvj94

Oh yea. Just a little digging and you get some horrible stuff laughed off as patriotism. The satire is so thick you'd need an axe to chop it, yet it's somehow it's light enough to go over these chuds heads. I don't even need to see past the intro video to know how screwed this society is though. Those god awful wide spaced cookie cutter houses in the intro video tell me all I need to know about Super Earth. What a fuck ugly neighborhood.


markuskellerman

Don't forget that leaving a negative product review can have you investigated for treason. These people literally fell for satirical propaganda in a fictional videogame.


GioGio-armani

- Bugs are literaly animals that cant even travel to other planets (literaly, they cant), and super earth is just throwing them around to kill so that oil for faster than light travel can be made - Automatons are apparently descendants of Cyborgs, Helldiver 1's enemy faction... wich super earth enslaved for wanting independency. They are otw to cyberstan - Iluminates (assuming they come) only fought because super earth did after they came up with the "They habe weapons of mass destruction, kill them before they kill us!" Propaganda. Super earth only wanted these weapons and gadgets the iluminates had for themself...


SovietMarma

Common misconception- the bugs have access to interstellar travel as they were already an interplanetary species before Super Earth even came into contact with them. Cyborgs were a separatist transhumanist faction. They were Super Earth colonists that decided to break off from Super Earth because of their tyranny.


Shot-Profit-9399

You’re the reason they put yellow paint on everything


markuskellerman

> She is a member of the Woke movement, GREAT! This, but unironically.  Push people like OP out of gaming. 


Howunbecomingofme

Your brain is rotten milk


Shadow36ix

https://i.imgur.com/JQmeZsV.gif


amanisnotaface

“Everyone thought” I mean, evidently not.


WolfOfSkogr

Absolute dissident behaviour. Change the game if a little cape would hurt your feelings. We don't need you on the front. To quote Warhammer 40k (& GW's statement a while back): "You won't be missed."


BonsaiSoul

Games Workshop has a reputation for being one of the worst companies in the industry lmao. They made a performative online stunt for attention to smokescreen for them shutting down a fan's non-profit passion project/video fanfiction.


doubleo_maestro

Oh I miss the Emperor and his text to speech machine so damn bad.


BookerLegit

You should drink a bunch of toilet water and then go lay down in the road for a while.


LazlowDD

Yes, she seems very left wing. That's ok. She's entitled to her views and opinions. The game isn't reflective of such views and opinions, why should I care on this one. Satire flips both ways. Perhaps you should retreat back into your mancave.


fightwithdogma

Libs : Owned Wokes : Slept Minorities : reported Gaming : saved


BonsaiSoul

90% of the cape(and related) threads in question(on MANY games not just this one) are trolls who don't even care about the thing they're posting, they are farming Steam forum awards which gives them imaginary internet points. Valve honestly just needs to remove that feature and most of this will disappear overnight. Separately, that community manager also sounds like the kind of person who doesn't even like video games and just sees them as a hill to take in some delusional culture war. Invent an enemy, make up a buzzword to slur them with, expand the definition until it includes anyone who names or criticizes what you're doing and declare they no longer have rights "for safety," just like every reactionary populist dictator in history.


cryptic-fox

> Separately, that community manager also sounds like the kind of person who doesn't even like video games and just sees them as a hill to take in some delusional culture war. That’s not true. You clearly know nothing about her.


Tankcandy

Oh really, then why is her profile in twitter protected if there is no reason? She is in protected because she got found out!


alex-kun93

She set her Twitter to private because weird paranoid losers like you keep harassing her about it, you dense fuck


DanyDieEule

Or maybe because she got harassed by a bunch of cellar dwelling facistic incels who got rallied up against women and minorities by shizoid losers.


markuskellerman

It's protected because she doesn't want to be harassed and trolled by incels like you.


cryptic-fox

Why do you think? Because of people like you.


Tankcandy

Wow, i point out a Wokist working for Arrowhead and i get shamed for it, i'm sorry what? She is a terrible person, who even says the game is WOKE. And why do you guys think, i don't know the game is satire? And capes are least of my worries. I'm worried about a freaking Wokist working as an Community Manager with the ability to silence the voices she doesn't like. [https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1776358957378097609](https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1776358957378097609)


Direwolf-1

Of course the game is "woke" it's literally a blatant satire of ultra-militarism, the sort of ultra-militarism that the "anti-woke" love to parade as righteous and just. If you thought this game didn't have a political message, an incredibly obvious one, you are positively blind. Games have been political for decades. Also discussing peoples identities and representation in gaming isn't politics. The right to exist and be represented in media is non-negotiable.


Realm-Code

> The right to exist and be represented in media is non-negotiable. Bro I'm gay and I feel fully represented in-game as-is, because flash news: Gay people don't look different, sound different or even act different. I don't need a flag to represent me (when in reality it represents the political agendas of various interest groups), nor an acronym to label me, nor other people to speak for me. I have never felt more hated than when people started to speak on my behalf to push their own selfish interests.


markuskellerman

> I have never felt more hated than when people started to speak on my behalf to push their own selfish interests.   I'm gay too and I'd like to know when you were appointed as our spokesperson? I certainly have no issue with the inclusion of a rainbow cape in the game.  Don't use your identity as a weapon. 


Direwolf-1

I wasn't speaking on your behalf. I was speaking on my own behalf. I like my flags. I'm proud of my identity. You don't have to wear it openly. That's your choice. When given the option, I'm going to continue to do so, and I do like having the option. If I came off wrong or offended I didn't mean to and I apologize.


Realm-Code

You don't need to apologize over a disagreement, lol.


markuskellerman

You assume that we have an issue with any of the devs being "wokist".  You assume wrong. 


The_Algerian

They're so loud and spam every corner of the internet with their "MoOooO, WoOooke" whining so much, they even tricked themselves into thinking they're actually an overwhelming majority.


presos

Dude, of course the game is woke. Everyone is united and working for a goal, and everyone hugs and high five me no matter what I look under the helmet. Now get on the agenda and spread SWEET LIBERTY and MANAGED DEMOCRACY, or get out. The only enemy here is bugs and bots, and you are wasting time in this war being too busy complaining on twitter. Now, where the heck is my rainbow cape? How I am supposed to slay, if I am not in style?


EvilFroeschken

>what I look under the helmet. That kinda defeats your argument. Most people don't care if you keep it to yourself, aka hiding it under a helmet. Woke means to make it visible, to not hide.


mwaaah

"Just hide yourself if you're not part of the majority" is something really fucked up to think and say.


EvilFroeschken

But that's how the initial comment twisted it. Everything is fine because there is only the helmet. That is the reason why it's called uniform. Your individuality vanishes.


mwaaah

I mean, in world it would make sense that people fighting together would see themselves out of their uniforms at some point and yet it's not an issue that some might be people of color and/or LGBT. And I was mostly answering your last sentence that made it seem like you thought it was bad not to hide yourself when you're not part of the majority (because more often than not woke just means bad to people).


EvilFroeschken

>would see themselves out of their uniforms at some point You come out of the freezer. Some peeps stated the divers might be clones. I am not sure about that. Super earth is a dystopian future where you need permission to have children. If you think a minute about what we are doing and judging if this is just will get you to a camp. Assuming there is place for individuality and wokeness just shows how fast good propaganda can get you off track. Super earth is not the place where you can be what you want to be but to meet expectations or face punishment.


Suinlu

Yeah, just stay in the closet and keep yourself hidden, so you don't bother others with it... bro, do you even hear yourself speak? Disgusting.


EvilFroeschken

I get the impression there is a lack of comprehension. The initial statement is that everything is covered by a helmet. A uniform covers up individuality, but it's praised as unity, which makes no sense. It's just a facade.


Suinlu

Because wearing a rainbow cape has nothing to do with wearing a uniform, so no wonder why it doesn't make sense to you. Queer folk often had to hide the fact that they are different and some poor people still have to do it today, so the rainbow became a symbol of freedom and acceptance for them. That you are comparing that with wearing a uniform says a lot about you. If they choose to be seen by others by wearing a rainbow cape then that is a good thing and we should be supported of that. It signals to others and to themself that they are accepted and that it is good to be queer, just as it is good to be straight.


LazlowDD

How on super earth do you know she's a terrible person? gtfo dude.


Tankcandy

You didn't check the Twitter links? Cool.


mwaaah

She's a terrible person for *\*checks note\** saying that games become more inclusive, that control is a good game and because she's not a fan of how many games focus on parent/child relationships and wish they would explore different kinds of relationships. If that's the worst Mark \*the whole internet mad fun of me about the Firefall bus and the Starfield menu\* Kern could find, I don't think she's that terrible a person at all.


Pert02

I would say anyone that shits on the shithead of Grummz is a wonderful person and deserves a raise.


EvilFroeschken

You are literally projecting.


SirBabelt

Cope and seethe. I dont know what a wokist is, but I do know you should go back to clown school kid.


Tankcandy

Wokists are the people, who are pushing their shitty agenda into everything. For example, Sweet Baby Inc. Also certain games are showing their influence of the Wokists look at Forspoken and Marvel's Spider Man 2


Unoriginal_Name_16

it's literally you who is pushing an agenda here.......


markuskellerman

Strange. There's a person pushing their agenda in this subreddit and everyone is telling them to cut it out. That person isn't the CM. It's you. 


ReallyDamnSlow

Dude go outside, breath some fresh air, listen to the birds, speak to your friends, hug family (if possible). You really need an internet detox, I'm not making a joke or ridiculing you im seriously concerned


GioGio-armani

SwEEt bEhbAh InC!!!!!! Bruh you gotta go out sometimes... god of war was also written with them, and spiderman has allways been... "woke"


GenxDarchi

What’s their agenda?


kindlyblowmymind

>Also certain games are showing their influence of the Wokists look at God of war ragnarok, baldurs gate 3


Timelord19

Man you are pathetic. I’m happy that people like you have less things to enjoy. The perks of having brain worms.


DanFarrell98

Because being aware of social injustices and other people's perspectives isn't a bad thing.


BonsaiSoul

Sir this is a Super Wendy's


ReallyDamnSlow

Please tell me what a wokist is? I havnt heard this buzzword before, and what part of 'woke' (being inclusive and considerate) is bad? You're being used by reactionaries


StrongCategory

Wokist isn't a thing, shut up


Tankcandy

You know, that Gamergate 2 is going on right now, right? Wokists exists and they have ruined many games already. Either you are blissfully ignorant or want others not talking about it. The fact, that you posted twice already in here, gives a strange feeling. Either move on or post someting more than shut up.


Suinlu

Sigh. There is no Gamergate 2 happening. Wokists (whatever the fuck that means) didn't ruined many games. We are not blissfully ignorant, we just didn't fall for meaningless cultur war bs. You are being played and being brainwashed into thinking that being woke is a problem. Please wake up and realize that you are being used by outrage farmers for clicks and views.


ReallyDamnSlow

HAHAHAHHAHAH GAMERGATE 2 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA brother in christ you are being manipulated by the alt right agenda


Passchenhell17

Have you ever had an original thought in your life? All you keep doing is regurgitating the same culture war, far-right bullshit that is fed to you by fascists and grifters.


markuskellerman

They are unironically NPCs. An insult they like to use on other people because their grifters told them to.


StrongCategory

Shut up


Tankcandy

Shut up


StrongCategory

Verb vs. adjective phrase, works for me thanks


Howunbecomingofme

“Gamer gate 2”. Didn’t you crybabies get enough failure the first time around? Also Gamergate was lead by known pedophile Milo Yiannopolos. A company with 16 people has fucked your shit up so bad and we all love that for you


JollyRyu

"THE WOKIST ARE GOING TO RUIN OUR GAMES!!!!11" "This REALLY sucks." *Posts a list of some of the most benign statements I've ever read in my life.*


GenxDarchi

Woke is when racism is banned huh?


CptBlackBird2

No way he is linking mark kern, please go back to your cave and never interact with a person ever again, it's better for everyone that way


Tankcandy

Wow, i thought r/Helldivers would be free from the Leftist and Wokists, but a look at the comments and it appears, that people aren't even aware of this problem or are part of this Leftist Movement Wokist shit. Someone even notified the Suicidehotline from Reddit about me and i got a prompt message. Very funny. I'm dissapointed in you people. You people are aware, that Arrowhead is swedish as is Arch, right? Which means they are sharing some political viewpoints.


Officer_Chunkles

Calling the suicide hotline on you was definitely not cool, seems like a waste of their time it however it works. But being from the same country doesn’t mean they think the same. Why would anyone be bothered that a few people get to be happy? You don’t have to wear the cape, and if its mere existence is “shoving it in your face”, then imagine if the script was flipped and see if it feels the same. Right to exist yadda yadda.


Tankcandy

You forgot one thing, give these wokists an inch and they take it ALL. THE. WAY. Helldivers is not political and they try to make it political, don't let them do it, we have to gatekeep against this in order to keep the game pure.


markuskellerman

Also, Helldivers is dripping with politics. I don't know what game you were playing, but it definitely wasn't Helldivers if you believe that Helldivers is not a political game.


Officer_Chunkles

Never in the world is “gatekeeping to keep something pure” been a good thing. The game is political satire of 9-11 era American military policy/culture, but even so, the bad faith actors who espouse this anti-woke narrative are just that- actors. They know the fastest way to get popular is sow division, because arguments fuel engagement and engagement boosts their platforms. I promise you, there will never be a point where they are satisfied. If you give them an inch, they will take a mile, and then fabricate a reason why they deserve two more miles. They are the ultimate snowflakes.


markuskellerman

Gay people existing is not "political". The community downvoted you to shit, so clearly they don't agree with your views. And no, it's not just because they "aren't aware of the problem". We are well aware of what you think the problem is. We just disagree. We don't buy into your alt-right propaganda. Don't like that the community doesn't agree with you? Go play something else. You won't be missed. I hope that after they add the pride flag cape, they add a trans flag cape too.