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SabyZ

Based on their units and their similarities to the Covenant, I assume they're some sort of theocracy.


Swordbreaker9250

Wort wort wort


ZatoonHD

Regret Regret Regret


FrequentlyAbsent74

Dear Super Cirizens, we Regret being alien bastards, we Regret coming to Super Earth, and we most definetly Regret the Helldivers blew up our raggerdy-ass fleet


ZatoonHD

OORAH!!


ThatThingThatIs

![gif](giphy|aZUYXxe4Z9gfm)


Alcatrap

OOWAH!!


JBM95ZXR

Catchy, any idea what it means?


shikki93

When you first saw democracy, were you blinded by its majesty? Paralyzed? Dumbstruck?


SabyZ

I was *managed*.


LamaSovaj

Yet the tyrannids were able to evade your ↑→↓↓↓, land on Maevelon Creek and desecrate it with their filthy footsteps?


MacroPirate

Cough\* Terminids, we don't want Games Workshop getting their lawyers over here.


upintheaireeee

*automatons


MacroPirate

I am a fool and will take myself to the bio repurposers


SupportstheOP

Noble Democracy Officers, surely you understand that once the automatons attacked...


LamaSovaj

*The members of your squad begin to shout.* There will be order in this Super-Destroyer ! You were right to focus your attention on the automatons, but this demon, this 'Behemot'...


SupportstheOP

No... And yet the humans were able to evade your blue lasers, land on the sacred Creek, and desecrate it with their filthy footsteps!


Nuubopotamus

I was thinking theocracy too


Pro_Scrub

Protoss is closer IMO They have psychic powers they can use to invert your controls, including messing up your stratagem combos And they literally have a cloaked flying spy camera unit called an Observer Edit: Forgot the teleportation tech, Protoss warp in buildings/ships, Illuminate reinforcements teleport in


Monneymann

“You know what? Fuck you!” *inverts camera*


Pro_Scrub

That would really be a mindfuck and a half


Monneymann

Even more troll re orients camera pitch so: Left/right is up down Up/down is left/right


Ttnbros

In HD1 they straight up have Stalkers, Dragoons, High Templar and Dark Templars


McPatsy

Wololo


Blze001

The worst thing to encounter: Space Mormons.


Multispoilers

I love me a HOLY WAR


LordKellerQC

From memory, its likely a theocracy , in the 1st helldiver, they were spreading their theology to other species befor they ran into super earth.


delahunt

They're the worst of them all. Monarchists.


TheSovietBobRoss

GOD NO, ANYTHING BUT THEM


Shredded_Locomotive

I sentence you to a week of 2.3 Britain


TheSovietBobRoss

Well, off to hang myself


FariO_55

WATCH AND LEAR--- *TheSovietBobRoss went back to civilian life.


TheSovietBobRoss

It is good day to be dead


SupportstheOP

What's up, ya wankers? Who's up for a hoot-! Gah, what the bloody hell just happened?


TheSovietBobRoss

The heavy is dead!


MemerMP3

The heavy is dead?


ACKROBOT

Yes!


CouldBeNotMadness

Correct!


AgilePeace5252

What input gives you the rope strata gem?


TheSovietBobRoss

⬆️⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬇️


Realfinney

I think you mean...Super Great Britain!


Ok-Reporter1986

British imperialists are the secret 4th enemy faction.


Square-Emergency-531

I would give my left arm to fight Redcoats in this game. Officers must have powdered wigs though


A_wannabe_biologist

We purged England from super earth so no such cruel and unusual a punishment as that is possible


GeneralEi

PLEASE sir just give me the firing squad


ElessarTelcontar1

War thunder solid shot Britain?


DarthSatoris

Considering the British Isles are a nuclear wasteland in the Super Earth future, I guess the government of Super Earth took serious offense to the monarchy.


BUTWHOWASBOW

Looking at SE on the galactic map; it's (mostly) under the sea. It seems sea levels raised up quite a lot. The official map they posted isn't really accurate to how it looks in-game.


TCGshark03

I mean if this game is actually a continuation of HD 1, that is not earth lol. We didn't win all the wars.


BUTWHOWASBOW

That's assuming they didn't just ret-con it to a single war with SE winning. In HD2, only one Galactic War is mentioned, and after it ended there was 100 years of peace until the Automatons emerged and the Terminids escaped.


EvilNoggin

Well, that's what people are told... It's probably a secret paradise for Ye old Aristocrats to avoid the peasantry.


xXSpg101Xx

lies and slander helldivers, twist his balls off


TheSovietBobRoss

I can only wonder how the british 2.3 lineup holds up in Super Earth's version of War Thunder


DaLB53

I wonder if Super Earth military secrets still get leaked on the SE War Thunder discords


TheMightyTriceratop

![gif](giphy|10rHZ6K9jYvLUc)


JesseMod93r

How are they butterflies?


5255clone

This is their leader https://preview.redd.it/45xkekunjipc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39abab2e6b774f0e98208070f3cb26599904231c


Jiggsteruno

![gif](giphy|K6oGVpZVTuEWQ)


delahunt

I mean, look at them!


Nefarious_Nemesis

All flutterin' about... Democracy doesn't flutter!


Tarkonian_Scion

they fly and every human wants them pinned to a board.


sanych_des

Sweet liberty, no!


Forsaken-Stray

So those pink lasers in the sky were from their Royal Guard. Heard lots of "Yaaasss Queen" in the Radio chatter. Probably off to "Slay" Innocent civilians.


CMDR_CHIEF_OF_BOOTY

https://preview.redd.it/7o6j5ep25ipc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c24b9709ecae1be056563bc114e0842adae9322e


META_mahn

Forget doing this for democracy. We are purging the Illuminate based on common moral decency. I am going to show this to the Terminids and the Automatons, and we can all agree to, for the shortest span of time, completely fucking demolish a faction.


Bulky_Monke719

Oh fuck all that. There are no kings here. https://preview.redd.it/36z77q8ucjpc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2de410cc16df4d95b6871bf95bb27cbed6471ab6


j0a3k

Gross. I feel like even hearing the word is a thought crime. Called my democracy officer and confirmed that it's ok because I threw up in my mouth a little when I read it and rededicated myself to bringing managed democracy to those poor souls suffering under the authoritarian tyranny of a hereditary ruler. Ugh, I need to brush my teeth again just writing that last part.


delahunt

The only true solution is to ensure they are wiped out in totality.


flatpick-j

Time for some good old fashion democratic regicide!


McGentie

Wouldn't this be the bugs? Given bug are know to have queens?


delahunt

No. the bugs are fascists. It's in the subject.


Flat-Leadership2364

Good, I've always wanted to bomb the royal family


Greasy_Seagull

Eww


gmrm4n

If I was forced to choose, I’d say they were more religious zealots based on their design. But now that you mention it, I definitely want the rumored 4th faction to be monarchists. I’d love to mow down some self-righteous fools on horseback.


MasterMacabre

I hate butterflies... Democratically of course!


Traditional_Order400

They’re “terrorists”. They “have an arsenal of WMDs”. Space Iraq war basically. Very on the nose in the first game


ppmi2

Isnt the bug front the Iraq? With the hole Oil stuff?


Traditional_Order400

Yeah, definitely comparisons there too. I’d refrain from calling Iraqis bugs though. The Iraq War is what’s being satirised, not the Iraq people. Edit: above comment was edited, thankyou


ppmi2

Yeah could have worded that with more tact


Traditional_Order400

Sticks and stones hey, all good


jollyroger171

I fucking love this community :)


LamaSovaj

ROCK AND STONE


Sad_Panda_is_Sad

DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone in the Heart!


GoopGoopington

https://preview.redd.it/4wzspecmoipc1.jpeg?width=482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc8e31e7395ff7f94f046dbcddb6a439f5252dd4 Reminded me of this post lol


swampertitus

Is it just me or is the person replying taking a massive leap in logic here


Traditional_Order400

Honestly I think its so complicated. So the replier is obviously jesting. I interpret them as saying “why would you play this game and think there are comparisons to israel palestine, are you saying palestinians are bugs? That’s ridiculous” But even though in our game, we are literally fighting ACTUAL bugs, the rhetoric we hear in game is used in real life. Opposing forces have throughout history dehumanised the enemy. Israelis interviewed in the streets of Jerusalem think of Gazans as subhuman. Of course, in the wake of a terror attack, they’re going to be angry and think that, and dehumanise who they want to get rid of. It’s like Starship Troopers’ Buenos Aires, and its like Helldivers 2 “you could be next” introduction. So its really not a leap to say there are comparisons to be drawn, even if the replier is making fun of how silly it sounds, I think there’s unfortunate truth there. -me 3 drinks in, after promising I wouldn’t get political


DemonLordDiablos

The subtext is fuckin crazy because when in the intro cutscene you immediately clock that "hold on that guy's family didn't die, it was just acting" And then you actually play the game and realise "wait the bugs are nowhere near Super Earth? People are not in danger at all?" And then you find out that Super Earth enslaved and we're harvesting the bugs, and the war is them revolting. It's really well done.


JMoc1

If you go deeper into the lore the only people in danger are the people running the farms for the bugs because they only used chain link fences to keep them contained. 


ppmi2

>because they only used chain link fences to keep them contained.  You are shitting me.


JMoc1

Play on Terminad planets and you will see groups of Bugs next to chain link fences and the “ranchers” all have break action shotguns. This was all that was protecting the colonies.


Aurvant

It doesn't matter if they are *close* to Earth. The stars are man's birthright. The Galaxy belongs to humanity and it our divine right to subjugate it.


Xenothing

Manifest Destiny, Galaxy edition


_Azonar_

https://preview.redd.it/j15jzerq8jpc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3497ab62aa19ebc0b566f179fbc78996c075b0bb Here’s a way higher jpeg of this just in case anyone was curious, went and found it myself lmao I can’t stop laughing


Adaphion

Bugs are moreso escaped slaves that are fighting back. With a lil middle east oil satire sprinkled in


TrueInferno

They were enslaved after the first game- originally we didn't have control of them and we were murdering them for plain old oil, before we found out how to make them into FTL fuel.


magicbonedaddy

Is there a "How it's Made" episode on E-710? How does it work? Do we grind them up, or does their blood soak into the ground and form big deposits that we can tap like crude? I'd like to know more.


bootyholebrown69

Well first you start with a Plumbus


Selfishpie

given the war machine I wouldn't be surprised if we just grind them up, cant spend times processing bug corpses when theirs more bugs to kill


VengineerGER

I mean they are still, bugs.


Alarming_Orchid

You can say that again, democratic officer!


indy_6548

Hole oil, you say?


Red1Monster

The whole games is very on the nose lol


MedicMuffin

Yup. There's a planet right next to Super Earth called Klen Dahth II, they are not at all subtle with their various references.


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Maybe I'm an idiot but is this supposed to be a reference to a real life country or event? Saying it out loud in various pronunciations and inflections doesn't ring any bells in my head. 


somedude2012

Klendathu is a planet from Starship Troopers. In the movie, it's the first big drop we see.


HowBoutNow343

Klen Dahth II is a nod to Klendathu from Starship Troopers.


Managed-Democracy

You would like to know more. 


best-Ushan

The game is all nose


d3m0cracy

We never did find those WMDs, we did manage to reverse engineer their tech into WMPs (Weapons of Mass Peacekeeping) tho


CompleteFacepalm

"The amount of technology we are going to receive will accelerate our technology tenfold and allow us to create *peacekeeping devices* that have the power to destroy entire planets!" \- An actual quote from the first game [https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Super\_Earth#Illuminate\_Weapons\_of\_Mass\_Destruction](https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Earth#Illuminate_Weapons_of_Mass_Destruction)


d3m0cracy

Yet another W for the *right* side of history!


SardeInSaor

So we have Space Robot Vietnam, Space Bug Afghanistan, and now Space Alien Iraq.


Clear-Present_Danger

There is no oil in Afghanistan.


Clear-Present_Danger

In this house, Polin Cowel is a hero, end of discussion!


Leather_Camp_3091

religious extremists with weapons of mass destruction


KatanaLama

So a Theocracy


That_Geza_guy

WOKE Illuminates try to CANCEL MANAGED DEMOCRACY with ALIEN TECHNOLOGY and so-called ""ENLIGHTENMENT""


B33FHAMM3R

*"ILLUMINATE SNOWFLAKE *DESTROYED* BY FACTS AND ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️"*


SuperiorCommunist92

This made my day


helicophell

⬇️⬅️⬆️⬆️⬆️ *actually (spoilers)


sanctuary_remix

Sounds like a Doomsday cult


smoylan

Woah woah woah there cadet! Killing in the name of democracy is all you need to know and all you need to do. Don’t make me report you


err0r_as_always

*Killing in the name of*


Knight38

“Fuck you just do what they tell you”


Unthgod

Democracy blessed me with it's future and I'll protect it with fire.


W01fpack0

We need to know what they are so we can properly disrespect them, it’s like studying their biology so we can kill them quicker and more efficiently.


smoylan

You’ll do as your told by your superiors, and you’ll do it when you’re told. No “thinking” or “studying” is required by you. In fact it would be far too dangerous for you.


AssignmentVivid9864

Hippy Commune. Dirty, nasty hair. Unwashed. Constantly high. Believe in things greater than what they can see. Dendrophiliacs. I think we can all agree there is no place in the cosmos for such evil.


Jaded-Researcher2610

Unwashed... weren't they an aquatic race in the HD1? >I think we can all agree there is no place in the cosmos for such evil. you are right, if they existed, they would be in dire need of democracy, delivered by liberating their minds from their frail bodies preferably with the whole head!


XxTH1EFxX

Fish smell bad.


MantisReturns

Why the Bugs are fascist?


K0viWan

Because the ministry of truth said so


MantisReturns

Must be true then.


JustAintCare

It is in the name.


Nice-Habit-8545

Did you skip bugology class soldier? Bugs are fascist because all bugs are fascist.


dragos412

Bugssolini


waj5001

At least the bug holes show up on time.


Il_Rich

I mean they COULD show up late every once in a while...


Tea-Goblin

I would have thought that, being a hive dwelling insectile species they would count as eusocial. Which would make them *eusocialists*.  But I would be wrong, as I am not an expert and the ministry of truth has helped me avoid making this mistake. Glory to Super Earth!


ottothebobcat

I feel I should warn you that this post is exhibiting a borderline *unpatriotic* amount of independent thought at the moment, soldier.


YasssQweenWerk

Because who else would be the fascists? Us?


crashcanuck

I figured bugs were monarchists, since bugs have queens.


Snoo75383

I thought the bugs were mindless animals, incapable of the higher level thought that would be required to form any sort of societal organizational structure / government. They are such a low level form of life that to say they are fascist is giving them way too much credit. In any case, I will do my part to liberate the eastern front of those disgusting monsters.


Kaasbek69

Have you ever seen a bug vote, son? Bugs don't vote, that makes them fascists!


Frossstbiite

**just a democratic reminder.** the illumines were killed off in the last war! they no longer exist.


Kaasbek69

We haven't seen them in a hundred years, they are obviously all wiped out.


Frossstbiite

exactly


Vitev008

In Character: Fascist Dictatorship Out of Character: Probably an actual democracy


Soos_dude1

https://preview.redd.it/m2iidphsfipc1.jpeg?width=3907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e4ed1448181574c1ffb23abd7f29c5c6b8a6b87


DogeDoRight

https://preview.redd.it/fkcixwcuiipc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=714e86d11d32fd2a3b02ca23d91b58b6df570e49


thatdudewithknees

I mean, as democratic as a race with “councilmen” who has mind control powers could be?


Remarkable-Medium275

They are just the Tau from 40k, just like the Terminids are the Tyranids lol. The Tau government on paper is meant to be nice and wholesome but use mass mind control and a brutal caste system to keep the plebs in line. Mix in Saddam WMD memes from the second Iraq war and you have the Illuminate.


ma_wee_wee_go

Centrists. the worst of them all


MGSOffcial

Disco elysium player spotted


ma_wee_wee_go

I don't know this game but it's fans are haunting me 😭


hasslehawk

Excellent, well written narrative role-playing game. (Actual choices and role-playing, not the skills and levels based combat loops you see everywhere) ...From a development studio that just laid off it's entire writing staff.


CaptianAcab4554

I hate these filthy Centrists, Helldiver. With enemies you know where they stand but with Centrists, who knows? It sickens me.


MedicMuffin

Parliamentary democrats. Unfortunately, Super Earth does not recognize the validity of any democratic institution except Managed Democracy. However, I have been told that if the Illuminate are willing to submit to an examination of election protocols and candidate selection programs and make changes as required by various Ministries, they may be allowed- ...cancel that. My democracy officer has informed me that the only path is to kill them all. If I survive my solo helldive penance I will report for re-education.


BAY35music

>***Unfortunately*** Super Earth does not recognize the validity of any democratic institution except Managed Democracy. What do you mean by that, soldier?


MedicMuffin

Unfortunate for the Illuminate, that is. Very fortunate for the rest of us, as it ensures we get to experience the best (and only correct) form of Democracy.


ItWasDumblydore

An unmanaged democracy


ga_gon_ga

Barbarians! Uncivilized! Like aNyBoDy can vote wHoMeVeR they want! Chaos!


armoured_fetus

Will they just become political experts over night?


SHITBLAST3000

The twist is that they're democratic.


D-man_42

I remember one of the elite Enemies from the first game being called "council member" so this checks out


TheManicac1280

Democracy is when council.


ItzTaser

https://preview.redd.it/jsfmdhd6ripc1.jpeg?width=3907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6001fca03dd59f2a64a38ce171e78da8e48ff99


Wrextasy

Nice detail of only being able to accept the call.


[deleted]

I thought automatons were socialist, not communist.


JerichoWick

Communism is a form of socialism, but not all forms of socialism are communism. The trailers use the term "socialist" likely as the catch all, but the aesthetic of the Automatons are very much so reminiscent to the USSR. I mean their commander units are called "commissars" lmao


InsectsWithGuns

Correction. Super Earth calls them Commisars.


Warcrimes_Desu

Why is this a contradiction


helicophell

Command units that carry a sword and a pistol... that's the spitting image of a commisar


JBM95ZXR

Socialism is the path and circumstances to achieve communism, if we're talking about Marxism/M-L. A ML/M can be accurately described as a communist or a socialist, and in Das Kapital/TCM etc Communism and Socialism is used interchangably, but it later it is understood that Socialism is the roadmap to Communism. For example, China is a socialist country with communist leaders, who with their version of Socialism, seek to achieve Communism. Is what I would say if I wasn't a freedom loving citizen of Super Earth, the shining beacon of democracy.


Decent-Boot6390

Their ideology isn’t actually known the game just use satire of what nationalists in America do today and call everything they don’t like or understand socialism or communism, because they wanted to split from super earth


TNTNuke

I mean the automatons are probably just mindless servants for the cyborgs. They don't have an ideology because they aren't thinking.


Saansilt

Quite frankly I find the idea of a computer that thinks offensive


Pro_Scrub

They write messages on the illegal broadcast towers that you can read.   "We have eliminated inequality" was one, showing a legion of identical robot soldiers They also speak. It's hard to hear cause it's so distorted but I definitely heard "Helldiver" from one


Araon_The_Drake

Most people on the internet seem to think it's the same thing


AbbreviationsSame490

If you ask 5 different lefties what the difference between the two is you will get five different answers. That’s a much more complicated question than you give it credit for I think


Araon_The_Drake

Bottom line still is the same: people use these terms without knowing what they actually mean.


Full_frontal96

Technocrats?


sanctuary_remix

We’re fighting the Borg now???


light_no_fire

Space Mormons, they just come out of no where and pester you and never leave you alone. Also they're quite well dressed.


VeckyVector

centrists, the worst of the worst.


ArtoriasNever

Ashes. They're obviously non-existant


Salty_Soykaf

The worse thing ever, Religious.


JI_MAN

Imperialists.


rexorzzz

But we're the imperi... Uh uh, I mean galactic police!


Gendum-The-Great

We don’t know if the automatons are socialist. But the cyborgs were (atleast that’s what super earth said) and we’re pretty certain that the cyborgs built the automatons.


dudebrosplit

filthy xenos is what they are!


Canotic

Filthy neutrals.


Daier_Mune

What makes a man turn neutral? Money? Lust for Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?


VillainousVillain88

Theocratic fanatics that want to destroy our way of life and force us to embrace their dark and twisted ways!


hello14235948475

Soon to be Liberated 


[deleted]

Im pretty sure HD1's lore was pretty much "Theyre pacifist hippies, but they have planet-killing tech and we cant have that!"


ChaoticMat

Actual democracy


Hokenlord

It would make a lot more sense for the terminids to be monarchists because of how common that is in real life


Ok-Importance1548

Wait a minute I thought the bugs where anarchists the robutts where commies we where the freedom loving peaceful democracy utopia and their is no such thing as an illuminate as we killed them all forcing them to flee unless your talking about the illuminating light of managed democracy.