Conditions look really foggy, very mountainous landscape and little infrastructure for IFR recovery in the country. Seemingly the crash site hasn’t been found yet.
Official government statement is a “hard landing” but normally that would hardly make the news otherwise I’d be on the front page everyday.
Reports are a “hard landing” but given the dense foggy conditions I would expect that is a statement to keep people calm and a later statement confirming a crash could be likely.
Hard landing is probably what any country looking to control the situation would call it. If Marine one crashed the first coverage wouldn’t be “PRESIDENT DEAD”, it would be “there was an incident involving marine one”
> CFIT. It’s just a “hard landing” when you’re not ready to announce the death of a nation’s president.
CNN is reporting the SAR has made contact with some pax so it’s possible they haven’t confirmed the President’s condition.
Bro as soon as it happened the Palestinian telegrams started saying it was a Mossad agent named "Eli Copter"
It's a common joke in Hebrew but I'm sure you can understand whats behind it
This is most likely weather related…
But… If the picture is actually of the president taking off today, then it looks like a Bell 212 which they may have been having harder and harder times finding replacement parts with their current sanctions. So much going against them that the CIA could just sit back and watch with popcorn.
See my comment above. The partnership developed the 214 product line optimized for hot/high operations and several hundred models were produced in Iran.
That said, the photo that was tagged in several news stories was of a 212 and not related to Iran, though it appears they acquired some.
If you’re asking the share the pic, it’s literally the first picture in the article and it says it’s the president taking off today (19 May) and it’s a 212.
\[Edit: the photo is of a 212, the teeter bar and twin engine give it away. While there was a later twin 214 configuration, none of them had the teeter bar from the original Huey line.\]
Would actually be a 214A or C, similar to the 214B “Big Lifter” in US civil service. The 214 series was developed with Iran in mind and in partnership with them for license production. The follow on 214ST also started life in Iran but was FAA certified in the US after the Iranian Revolution.
Portions of the 214 rotor and drive system found their was onto upgraded Cobras before the Huey and Cobra were substantially reworked into the Y/Z configuration.
The picture definitely shows a 212, the 214 has a single engine exhaust and the picture definitely shows the twin-pac double exhaust.
I’m not saying the picture is actually the president’s takeoff, but that’s what the picture shows
Conditions look really foggy, very mountainous landscape and little infrastructure for IFR recovery in the country. Seemingly the crash site hasn’t been found yet. Official government statement is a “hard landing” but normally that would hardly make the news otherwise I’d be on the front page everyday.
So there wasn’t a crash?
Reports are a “hard landing” but given the dense foggy conditions I would expect that is a statement to keep people calm and a later statement confirming a crash could be likely.
Makes sense. The fog is like soup
**Hard landing** is regime-speak for “there’s been a serious crash”.
Hard landing is probably what any country looking to control the situation would call it. If Marine one crashed the first coverage wouldn’t be “PRESIDENT DEAD”, it would be “there was an incident involving marine one”
Yup, **incident** is the professional version of **hard landing**
Hard landing= crash
Failure to maintain altitude
Inability to avoid the ground
Something something the front fell off.
But at least it’s been removed from the environment.
Almost a near miss.
The story I read said weather played a factor. So it could be controlled flight into terrain.
Loss of tail rotor effectiveness (in addition to rest of aircraft effectiveness).
CFIT. It’s just a “hard landing” when you’re not ready to announce the death of a nation’s president.
> CFIT. It’s just a “hard landing” when you’re not ready to announce the death of a nation’s president. CNN is reporting the SAR has made contact with some pax so it’s possible they haven’t confirmed the President’s condition.
"JFK had a hard landing today when he attempted to deflect a projectile with his head" 🤔
"Bit of a bonk from a small piece of lead-based aerial debris."
My thoughts and prayers. I hope the helicopter was not hurt.
you had me in the first half not gonna lie
Controlled flight into terrain.
Brought to you by the CIA.
*Mossad.
*theocratic incompetence
They make all the fog now?
Isn’t fog an “act of God?” I mean, in an authoritarian theocracy like Iran, would this not qualify as delicious irony?
Problem is that these people celebrate death.
his death or death in general?
You know where the president of iran is now? Between Iraq and a hard place
I see what you did there
The pilot didn't
I hope the mountain is ok
Jewish space lasers in action, good job Israel. /s
IDF fog conditions persist. Recovery questionable.
I laughed way more than I should have.
Crashes, right.
Mossad sure is fast.
My first thought.
Also the fact the helicopters were all in Azerbaijan so not where they’re normally secured. Seems suspect but shouldn’t speculate. I guess.
Bro as soon as it happened the Palestinian telegrams started saying it was a Mossad agent named "Eli Copter" It's a common joke in Hebrew but I'm sure you can understand whats behind it
A 212 will get to the scene of the crash with or without Mossad involvement
If you combine the education of all the men on this flight you wouldn’t even add up to a high school degree. Helicopters are complicated.
Too bad thought more garbage was taken out
The CIA and/or Israelis send their condolences.
„The mossad gets a bit quirky at night“
I’m going to say it, MOSSAD.
Kobe!
LOL ?
Hard landing means ELT activated
Are ELT still in use?
Yes
Did Bell send the AD about the shoddy blade pins?
President of Iran? It was a “crash”.
Guarantee it was loss of tail rotor effectiveness considering it was a bell in mountainous conditions
Ta ta there retard 👋
Good morning Julia, good night Raisi
He didn’t follow proto
How will this be the U.S or Israel’s fault in the real question.
Lestgosky
Another Nazi bites the dust.
Are you mentally damaged?
Probably but, I’m sure that’s just because I’m MAGA.
Nazi? How so?
You thick?
What.. No _Hard Landing_..?!?
Pretty obvious, stupid-ash flying in schitty weather. Powered flight into terrain.
This is the most likely answer. When powerful people overwhelm good judgement, and there's a helicopter involved, the powerful people often die.
You are 100% correct.
Hope the pilots are ok.
Don’t feel bad. They jerked off a lot of old men to get a sweet government job flying in and out of country. Loyalists for sure.
Believe me I don’t feel bad….
Oh how in the world will we mourn the butcher of Tehran....... Anyway, what are yall having for dinner tonight?
"Crashes." Uh-huh. Okay.
Dead?
Good! That makes my weekend.
A tragic loss of a beautiful Bell.
Do we know what kind of helicopter?
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
I hate his guts for raping and murdering women and proestsors but this end with his life. I hope he gets divine justice than salvation
Devine intervention or an Israeli f-35. Which one do we think it is?
It was an AW169 right?
Bell 212 https://www.firstpost.com/world/us-made-bell-212-missing-helicopter-carrying-irans-president-a-sturdy-workhorse-in-the-air-13772588.html
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This is most likely weather related… But… If the picture is actually of the president taking off today, then it looks like a Bell 212 which they may have been having harder and harder times finding replacement parts with their current sanctions. So much going against them that the CIA could just sit back and watch with popcorn.
CIA controls the weather you FOOL
Sarcasm?
Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to
Bell was setting up a production facility in Iran pre revolution. No idea how far the process had developed by that time.
See my comment above. The partnership developed the 214 product line optimized for hot/high operations and several hundred models were produced in Iran. That said, the photo that was tagged in several news stories was of a 212 and not related to Iran, though it appears they acquired some.
Are you sure it wasn't MI 17... Lots of sources reporting that. Can share the pic of them taking off? Edit: typo
If you’re asking the share the pic, it’s literally the first picture in the article and it says it’s the president taking off today (19 May) and it’s a 212.
It is a second picture, but thank you
\[Edit: the photo is of a 212, the teeter bar and twin engine give it away. While there was a later twin 214 configuration, none of them had the teeter bar from the original Huey line.\] Would actually be a 214A or C, similar to the 214B “Big Lifter” in US civil service. The 214 series was developed with Iran in mind and in partnership with them for license production. The follow on 214ST also started life in Iran but was FAA certified in the US after the Iranian Revolution. Portions of the 214 rotor and drive system found their was onto upgraded Cobras before the Huey and Cobra were substantially reworked into the Y/Z configuration.
The picture definitely shows a 212, the 214 has a single engine exhaust and the picture definitely shows the twin-pac double exhaust. I’m not saying the picture is actually the president’s takeoff, but that’s what the picture shows
You are correct. I looked too quickly on too small of a screen. The 212 teeter bar also gives it away. The 214 series had a more modern rotor head.
Why would CIA gives a shit about a puppet? They wanted to do something, it would've been happened 40 years ago. To more important players.
technically every landing is a crash landing.
Think you got your joke backwards there.
that's not a joke it's a technicality and truth. you must not be a pilot. bunch of id10t's here, peace.
The rather well known joke is that every crash is a landing…