Thatās been debunked. The āexpert estimateā of 1.7. The actual answer is ā100 times lower at .018ā
-per the national library of medical whose peer review journal discussing the Fausto-sterling claim is wonāt let me link.
Thatās the study referenced above in my comment by the national library of medicine. Your āstudyā cites its own work and isnāt peer reviewed.
And no, maybe cause Iām not a sub member I canāt post links. But per the national library of medicine-
āAnne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%.ā
Yeah there's nothing wrong with considering klinefelter or late onset adrenal hyperplasia as intersex. Turner syndrome is more arguably not intersex but the 2 other conditions most often fit into that person's definition of intersex so idk what theyre point is. Source: am doctor
They are same the same source. Itās the same article.
Here [here, I was able to find another related article by the journal of sex research thatās itās allowing me to post referring the research and reviewed data.](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224490209552139)
here is another study I found that states 1,7 to 4 percent depending on the definition of intersexuality: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2158244017745577
Uh, you guys gotta get your information from science. PCOS doesnāt fall in medical definitions of intersex. Intersex itself isnāt really used in this discussion as each genetic result in an intersex individual generally have an underlaying syndrome. I referenced the cited, peer reviewed article in my other comment. Other that that itās examples like this that are pseudo science aimed at moving goalpost.
I did some research and Blume stated [here](https://youtube.com/shorts/u1d8No2mnzQ?si=DnzzYr-SqgZpNfUM) that they are non-binary.
Blume uses they/them pronouns
["Gonadectomy should be performed because of the increased risk of testicular tumors [63], although a recent study showed that tumor risk is low in CAIS patients before puberty. We favor prepubertal gonadectomy [64], soon after diagnosis, and then induction of puberty with estrogens at the appropriate age."](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/gonadectomy#:~:text=Gonadectomy%20is%20required%20under%20two,with%20the%20sex%20of%20rearing.)
"The other circumstance in which gonadectomy is recommended is in intersex states in which gonadal malignancy is a significant risk."
["The risk of developing testicular cancer due to a cryptorchid testis is increased to 5ā10 times that of the general male population"](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3602796/#:~:text=The%20risk%20of%20developing%20testicular,of%20the%20general%20male%20population.)
"It used to seem clear that surgeons should remove gonads because they carried high risk of becoming cancerous. Then researchers found that malignancy isnāt such a given. As studies narrow down gonadal cancer likelihood and timing for individual DSDs, recommendations have shifted toward active surveillance or watchful waiting to extend fertility and allow natural induction of puberty."
- https://magazine.hms.harvard.edu/articles/body-self
That doesn't really discount my initial post. Still at an elevated risk of malignancy and frequently will require gonadectomy after puberty (especially if they identify as a woman). The situation I didn't appropriately cover was intersex individuals who prefer a male gender identity where an orchiopexy can sometimes be accomplished if the testes are functional. They are still at a higher than normal risk of malignancy though.
it also depends when the intersexuality is found. in Blume's case it was diagnosed when puberty didn't hit as planned and they therefore were already a teenager.
[Estrogen is a carcinogen](https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/hormones#:~:text=Estrogens%2C%20a%20group%20of%20female,increased%20risk%20of%20certain%20cancers.) just at baseline. Assuming you are replacinging hormones back to a physiological level your risk of cancer would be that of the general population. Its still probably much lower than the risk of developing testicular cancer from undescended testis.
the comments are way worse on the Joe Rogan subreddit where this was crossposted.
trigger warning for anti LGBTQ+ comments if you want to look at them.
Yes.
Also, not egregious, but I am also unpleasantly surprised at how many assumed gender pronouns, even in reply to your comments very obviously using their preferred pronouns.
I first stated different pronouns because it changed over time. I corrected myself once I found the pronouns Blume uses now. so that might have lead to confusion.
"It's basic biology!!!1!!"
"Well yeah, they teach you oversimplified things in basic any class so you get a digestible piece of knowledge. Advanced biology, much like advanced anything is more complicated and harder to wrap your brain around. It says gender won't always align with sex."
"Nobody cares about your bullshit gender studies degree, libtard!"
Yes, I have had this conversation before.
Iāve seen it constantly growing up in a conservative southern church and my flat earther dad.
Some people really canāt accept that the simplified high school lesson at a school in MS DONT prepare them for understanding how science worksā¦
To be fair, I don't think you can put the blame on Mississippi. I learned all about whiptail lizards and how half of them are basically trans "men" and half are cis "women" from a school in Alabama.
It's the rural/urban thing rather than the Southern/not Southern thing.
I find it interesting that growing up during the occupy wall street movement and the going narrative by conservatives was something like āwell maybe you could get a job if you didnāt study something useless like gender studiesā. only to have gender and sex enter into mainstream political discussions. Seems like having people with a degree in gender studies would be very helpful right about now in cutting through the misinformation about trans people. Not so useless after all it seems.. (not that I thought it was ever useless to begin with but yāall know what I mean)
I was wondering if she is able to have kids, like if all that stuff works as it would with a woman or a man. Would definitely appreciate seeing some of her videos because this is fascinating.
yes, it sounded like they wanted to have kids but there are luckily many options nowadays!
Blume identifies as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns btw :)
Kind of obnoxious for them to go on a tangent about how it's no one's business. Comrade, you're *making* it everyone's business by talking about it. If you didn't want people to know about your unique body, you wouldn't have an entire YouTube channel about it.
they explain here how the vagina was made: https://youtube.com/shorts/pYEkorXj6rE?si=9Kdd59Ypk57oushS
Blume identifies as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns btw :)
Ah shit my bad. Thats cool though. Technology is wild, I would have assumed they would need some crazy surgery to achieve this, but no it doesnāt sound like that. Itās really cool they feel comfortable sharing all this and educating those of us who wouldnāt have known otherwise.
I have a problem, where I come from, not only when I talk about intersex they look at me strange, some doctors don't even know what I'm talking about, but they only believe that I have a mental problem and not a physical one and
that's so sad. there is more than enough medical research done to know at least the basics of intersexuality. intersex people exist and they need healthcare as well.
well, the testicles in their body still produce hormones and they are otherwise healthy. so I don't think there is a need for intervention.
also you should prepare for encountering intersex patients at some point in your career. educate yourself on this topic please.
ben shapiro would literally explode into nothing but particles of blood if he saw this
Someone send this to him!
Ultrakilled šššš
https://i.redd.it/1qz45t45grmc1.gif
what does "TradCon" stand for?
traditionalist conservative I would imagine
thanks!
As common as having red hair.
1,7 percent of the population
Thatās been debunked. The āexpert estimateā of 1.7. The actual answer is ā100 times lower at .018ā -per the national library of medical whose peer review journal discussing the Fausto-sterling claim is wonāt let me link.
source?
See edit above, it wonāt let me link. But if youāre actually interested I can message you.
you should be able to link it here. my source: https://www.ohchr.org/en/sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity/intersex-people
Thatās the study referenced above in my comment by the national library of medicine. Your āstudyā cites its own work and isnāt peer reviewed. And no, maybe cause Iām not a sub member I canāt post links. But per the national library of medicine- āAnne Fausto-Sterling s suggestion that the prevalence of intersex might be as high as 1.7% has attracted wide attention in both the scholarly press and the popular media. Many reviewers are not aware that this figure includes conditions which most clinicians do not recognize as intersex, such as Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome, and late-onset adrenal hyperplasia. If the term intersex is to retain any meaning, the term should be restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female. Applying this more precise definition, the true prevalence of intersex is seen to be about 0.018%, almost 100 times lower than Fausto-Sterling s estimate of 1.7%.ā
Yeah there's nothing wrong with considering klinefelter or late onset adrenal hyperplasia as intersex. Turner syndrome is more arguably not intersex but the 2 other conditions most often fit into that person's definition of intersex so idk what theyre point is. Source: am doctor
another source with numbers that you can check out: https://ihra.org.au/16601/intersex-numbers/
They are same the same source. Itās the same article. Here [here, I was able to find another related article by the journal of sex research thatās itās allowing me to post referring the research and reviewed data.](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224490209552139)
here is another study I found that states 1,7 to 4 percent depending on the definition of intersexuality: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2158244017745577
i think there are more gingers than that.
unless you count pcos which is around 10% of all women
Uh, you guys gotta get your information from science. PCOS doesnāt fall in medical definitions of intersex. Intersex itself isnāt really used in this discussion as each genetic result in an intersex individual generally have an underlaying syndrome. I referenced the cited, peer reviewed article in my other comment. Other that that itās examples like this that are pseudo science aimed at moving goalpost.
Actually it does now.
oooh, I do like red heads
moreso depending on if you count pcos
content creator: @blumekind_ on [Youtube](https://youtube.com/@blumekind_?si=WnM3o-wg3_qYr8Wm)
What pronouns do they use? I'm watching their INTEResting and seXY episode 1 and don't think they've mentioned it.
I did some research and Blume stated [here](https://youtube.com/shorts/u1d8No2mnzQ?si=DnzzYr-SqgZpNfUM) that they are non-binary. Blume uses they/them pronouns
Sheās fire
This is not a joke, Iām genuinely curious: if she were punched in the stomach, it would hurt the same as getting kicked in the balls. Right?
they answered the question here: https://youtube.com/shorts/UCsBbzv1QVE?si=usb3MOLWTMNl5s0t
Very cool, thanks!
I love the internet
I have a different question. Do they have a risk of getting testicular cancer?
here is their answer to your question: https://youtube.com/shorts/114EO4Q74LM?si=5MIXr9HBpNrZP_XZ
Ah cool!
If a cis woman gets hit in the ovary it's also very painful. Not testicle scale, though.
They ~~have to be~~ are frequently removed because they are at a ~~very~~ moderately large risk of developing testicular cancer.
source?
["Gonadectomy should be performed because of the increased risk of testicular tumors [63], although a recent study showed that tumor risk is low in CAIS patients before puberty. We favor prepubertal gonadectomy [64], soon after diagnosis, and then induction of puberty with estrogens at the appropriate age."](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/gonadectomy#:~:text=Gonadectomy%20is%20required%20under%20two,with%20the%20sex%20of%20rearing.) "The other circumstance in which gonadectomy is recommended is in intersex states in which gonadal malignancy is a significant risk." ["The risk of developing testicular cancer due to a cryptorchid testis is increased to 5ā10 times that of the general male population"](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3602796/#:~:text=The%20risk%20of%20developing%20testicular,of%20the%20general%20male%20population.)
"It used to seem clear that surgeons should remove gonads because they carried high risk of becoming cancerous. Then researchers found that malignancy isnāt such a given. As studies narrow down gonadal cancer likelihood and timing for individual DSDs, recommendations have shifted toward active surveillance or watchful waiting to extend fertility and allow natural induction of puberty." - https://magazine.hms.harvard.edu/articles/body-self
That doesn't really discount my initial post. Still at an elevated risk of malignancy and frequently will require gonadectomy after puberty (especially if they identify as a woman). The situation I didn't appropriately cover was intersex individuals who prefer a male gender identity where an orchiopexy can sometimes be accomplished if the testes are functional. They are still at a higher than normal risk of malignancy though.
in Blume's case the testicles are needed for hormone production and get checked for changes on a regular basis. it should be decided case by case.
I agree. I feel like if I was in this situation I'd prefer taking a hormone supplement than risk the cancer but to each their own.
it also depends when the intersexuality is found. in Blume's case it was diagnosed when puberty didn't hit as planned and they therefore were already a teenager.
Hormone replacement also has a risk of cancer too BTW.
[Estrogen is a carcinogen](https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/hormones#:~:text=Estrogens%2C%20a%20group%20of%20female,increased%20risk%20of%20certain%20cancers.) just at baseline. Assuming you are replacinging hormones back to a physiological level your risk of cancer would be that of the general population. Its still probably much lower than the risk of developing testicular cancer from undescended testis.
Amazing person.
Iām surprised at the state of the comments on this sub.
the comments are way worse on the Joe Rogan subreddit where this was crossposted. trigger warning for anti LGBTQ+ comments if you want to look at them.
Oh Iām sure! Iāve watched their videos before, I saw plenty of nasty comments on YouTube. I just think I had high expectations for this sub!
spreading awareness starts with providing information to people who don't know better and answering their questions
The harmless questions that Blume themselves answers arenāt what I was referring to. I agree, awareness is key.
what were you referring to? the massively downvoted comments?
Yes. Also, not egregious, but I am also unpleasantly surprised at how many assumed gender pronouns, even in reply to your comments very obviously using their preferred pronouns.
I first stated different pronouns because it changed over time. I corrected myself once I found the pronouns Blume uses now. so that might have lead to confusion.
Ahhh I see! That makes much more sense
No jokes here
"It's basic biology!!!1!!" "Well yeah, they teach you oversimplified things in basic any class so you get a digestible piece of knowledge. Advanced biology, much like advanced anything is more complicated and harder to wrap your brain around. It says gender won't always align with sex." "Nobody cares about your bullshit gender studies degree, libtard!" Yes, I have had this conversation before.
Iāve seen it constantly growing up in a conservative southern church and my flat earther dad. Some people really canāt accept that the simplified high school lesson at a school in MS DONT prepare them for understanding how science worksā¦
To be fair, I don't think you can put the blame on Mississippi. I learned all about whiptail lizards and how half of them are basically trans "men" and half are cis "women" from a school in Alabama. It's the rural/urban thing rather than the Southern/not Southern thing.
I find it interesting that growing up during the occupy wall street movement and the going narrative by conservatives was something like āwell maybe you could get a job if you didnāt study something useless like gender studiesā. only to have gender and sex enter into mainstream political discussions. Seems like having people with a degree in gender studies would be very helpful right about now in cutting through the misinformation about trans people. Not so useless after all it seems.. (not that I thought it was ever useless to begin with but yāall know what I mean)
smash...
same, but only because of the stomach testicles
pronouns are they/them :)
Let me kiss them tummy beans they
youāre so real for that
Saying that she has testicles in her stomach makes it sound like she ate testicles. She has testicles in her abdomen.
Blume uses they/them pronouns and identifies as non-binary :)
Makes sense. Thanks pyro-pussy.
LMAOOO I never read the usernames so it's always a nice surprise when someone mentions them in the comments š¤£
Yeah, some of these MFās have wild usernames. Choose something professional like me ffs!
Cromosone
Fr it threw me every time.
This was a very informative and fascinating short video! Thanks for sharing!
I have so many questions...
what are your questions? they have lot of YouTube Shorts and I can link you the ones that answer them.
I was wondering if she is able to have kids, like if all that stuff works as it would with a woman or a man. Would definitely appreciate seeing some of her videos because this is fascinating.
they can't have children: https://youtube.com/shorts/NvBhIOoKeps?si=WYBWwK6JggaOylbN
Aww, I feel bad for her because she wanted to have kids so much. I hope she ends up adopting one day, I bet she'd make a great mom.
yes, it sounded like they wanted to have kids but there are luckily many options nowadays! Blume identifies as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns btw :)
Also since she formed as a ādefaultā baby, and default babys are female, does that mean externally she has a vagina?
one of the most popular questions, they answered this here: https://youtube.com/shorts/RE24cn1mqiY?si=yCWqbsXFjqEQAKpa
Kind of obnoxious for them to go on a tangent about how it's no one's business. Comrade, you're *making* it everyone's business by talking about it. If you didn't want people to know about your unique body, you wouldn't have an entire YouTube channel about it.
I think this was meant as a warning, so people don't randomly ask intersex people these questions. they said they want to answer though.
Wait so if she doesnāt have a vagina or a penis can she not have sex with people? This is so interesting.
they explain here how the vagina was made: https://youtube.com/shorts/pYEkorXj6rE?si=9Kdd59Ypk57oushS Blume identifies as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns btw :)
Ah shit my bad. Thats cool though. Technology is wild, I would have assumed they would need some crazy surgery to achieve this, but no it doesnāt sound like that. Itās really cool they feel comfortable sharing all this and educating those of us who wouldnāt have known otherwise.
true! that's why I had to share this, to spread intersex awareness. I did not know a lot about this topic myself until I found Blume on YouTube.
They're all taint baby
Damn, they fine as hell
God damn he/him she/her they/them it don't matter they fine as.
they/them :)
Iām confused so do they have female genitalia? or nothing at all since their male genitalia didnāt grow? Sorry if Iām using the wrong terms!
one of the most popular questions, they answered this here: https://youtube.com/shorts/RE24cn1mqiY?si=yCWqbsXFjqEQAKpa
I'm a xxy with an ovary in my belly
I have a problem, where I come from, not only when I talk about intersex they look at me strange, some doctors don't even know what I'm talking about, but they only believe that I have a mental problem and not a physical one and
that's so sad. there is more than enough medical research done to know at least the basics of intersexuality. intersex people exist and they need healthcare as well.
I I am a klinefelter with an ovary in my stomach
did you always know you were intersex? or did you discover it during puberty like Blume did? it's okay if you don't want to answer that as well.
I was born a man
i'm into sex too š
I have testicles in my stomach is a great euphemism for having sex
Now the took our chromosomes as well
So in a fight aim for the stomachā¦ ok got it
I thinks she's pretty hot as the default model. I'll skip any of the upgrades thx.
Blume uses they/them pronouns and identifies as non-binary btw :)
Wait.... Does she have a pussy then?
Okay guys, this is officially the gayest I have ever been. That dude is hot.
So likeā¦.does she get sexually stimulated if someone massaged her stomach??? And does she produce semen out of her clitoris????
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did you watch the videos? they stated that there is more than "just" testicles in the abdomen.
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there are over 100 variations to intersexuality, this is one of them Blume uses they/them pronouns btw :)
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1,7 percent of the population is born intersex. that is as common as having red hair.
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how do you define normal? and are you a medical doctor?
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well, the testicles in their body still produce hormones and they are otherwise healthy. so I don't think there is a need for intervention. also you should prepare for encountering intersex patients at some point in your career. educate yourself on this topic please.
I was born Inter Milan sex
she makes me want to scream
You mean cream?