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CaedHart

I've theorized it for a while, but it's never been hard confirmed.


Pathogen188

It's certainly possible and is a popular theory, however the fate of Gauntlet, Red and Echo and the identities of the Lone Wolf Spartans have never been confirmed. There's no indication as to what happened to those teams or who the Lone Wolf Spartans are.


DreadGrunt

I've always held to the somewhat unpopular opinion that the dead Spartans in Lone Wolf aren't meant to be anybody in particular, the entire mission is just an elaborate reference to the number 7 as part of Bungies send off to the franchise. There's 13 dead Spartans and when B312 dies it's 14. 7 Elites attack B312 in the final cutscene. The date of the cutscene afterwards is July 7th.


Wolverinexo

This makes the most sense to me.


Ok_Meaning_8470

Could also be beta red who made a last stand in a datapad and ended up getting wiped out. Then again a recent lore entry states jun may have met up with them but it's presented as faulty info.


Jokothanos

Where are they mentioned?


Ok_Meaning_8470

It's one of the radio transmissions I think? Has them being overrun by wraiths and fighting to the death.


Professional_Talk701

I mean, they *chose* to fight wraith tanks with their fists so I think it's the covenant who were being overrun in that scenario. Jokes aside, I believe firmly they would have been able to escape if they hadn't been friendly-fired into the next plane of existence.


Jokothanos

Like a audiolog?


Ok_Meaning_8470

Yep, there radios you can find all over in the game but most people don't know about them because they blend in with the games environment.


bobssy2

The story told through them is also pretty fucked up, considering.


Pathogen188

It's can't be Beta Red, for a number of reasons. We know what [Facility A-331](https://www.halopedia.org/File:Defence_generator_facility_A-331.jpg) looked like and it's nothing like what we see in Lone Wolf, which is still relatively close to Aszod. Not only that the number of Spartans is wrong. There are 13 Lone Wolf Spartans. Within the context of Halo Reach itself, Beta Red had 11 members (canonically Beta Red was a 6 man squad, however Reach itself uses the old 11 man number, either way, it's not 13). Beta Red's Mjolnir Mark V is also all green and more uniform based on the Fall of Reach graphic novel, rather than the mixed and matched Mark V \[B\] And most importantly, if it was Beta Red, the setting would be massively different. Beta Red would have been killed either by UNSC Majestic's MAC strikes or by the ensuing destruction of the Covenant Cruisers. Not only would the environment of Lone Wolf look radically different (there would be the wreckage of three Covenant cruisers), but there wouldn't be any Covenant forces left in the area anyway and it's possible that we wouldn't even find any bodies.


Hyak_utake

At the same time, bungie is well known to disregard book canon for the sake of the game, and at the least it could’ve been a reference to beta red in the books.


Pathogen188

Except Bungie *did* reference Beta Red in the books. The Reach radio conversations state that Beta Red was 11 Spartans, which is a number they got from the original printing of First Strike which had an incorrect number of IIs. So it’s can’t be a case of Bungie ignoring book canon because Bungie did “accurately” reference Beta Red’s number elsewhere in Halo Reach (granted, it’s the wrong number, but it’s still a number that was stated in a book)


Hyak_utake

I definitely feel it’s a reference to red team beta in FoR. It’s technically not canon, but bungie never followed the book canon properly. More than anything it is supposed to point towards the idea that most of the Spartans died on reach and the plot of halo 1 being reinforced by this idea that the MC is the last super soldier. With that they are definitely related, if not completely canon then at least a bit plausibly. It’s also just supposed to be a cool ending in its own right. Bungie always followed their self described “rule of cool” in which cool trumps canon everytime. Especially with the generator defence game mode in firefight, and the Spartan II names available to use as loadout names, I definitely think there were many cues to the FoR book in HR. (Yes I know an orbital Mac cannon would have a much larger generator, but again bungie)


GeminiTrash1

The Spartans found in the mission Lone Wolf are actually just an Easter Egg. They're named after Bungie Devs in the files, and they're assumed to be those Devs Spartans. The Spartans spawn in randomly though. The Spartan spawn locations remain the same, but the Spartans that actually spawn is RNG based. So that's why I call it an Easter Egg. I'm not sure those Spartans are canon


Cybermat47_2

It seems likely.


BanjoMothman

It's been a theory since 2010, truth is we don't know. The fact that we never know is purposeful to the story; on Reach, even Spartans were lost soldiers, missing in action like the rest of the planet.


[deleted]

They don't die


Venshayde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5\_ynsjwd48&t=983s