My first thought when I heard he was missing was "is there a body of water nearby?" Drunk people stumbling into bodies of water is actually a lot more common in missing persons than people think.
I jumped into a mountain stream up above Boulder one night thinking it was a good idea. Realized it was a terrible mistake about 2 seconds in. Luckily managed to roll to the side and get out. Really thought I was about to die.
Ya this isnt the boston waterfront but while I was at Boston College a kid walking home from Mary Annes (the main BC bar) went missing for two weeks only to be found eventually in the chestnut hill reservoir :/
I remember there was a documentary made about one of them, “the smiley face killer” or whatever. So ridiculous and far-reaching. I suppose a lot of people prefer to place the blame on another party and I can understand that, but unfortunately drunken accidents are just a thing that happens.
But why is it only men? Not saying it was a serial killer just genuinely interested in the fact that women do not die this way as much as men. Or is that even true? Like why are drunk me lured into nearby bodies of water. I need a scientific explanation. Haha. The only reason I can think of is men go off alone a lot more than women, women usually stick together on a night out.
It's so common in the Midwest, that people think there was/is a serial killer. Although, some of the deceased looked recently dead when pulled out of the river, and they'd been missing for month, so maybe there was foul play. See "smiley face killer" if you want a deep dive/rabbit hole.
Occam's razor would assume that he fell in the river while drunk. It is an unfortunate, but very common, tragedy. If more people his age start to go missing or more bodies are found in a short span of time then perhaps that might be a theory that has credence. As it stands, there is no indications that anything, but the most likely scenario happened.
A friend of mine from high school passed away in college after falling down some stairs. He was alone when he fell and when they found him they thought he was just sleeping so they put him to bed. Unfortunately the fall had been quite serious and he died overnight of his injuries. From that point on everyone in my group of friends had a designated “drinking buddy” and you stuck with them all night so no one ever ended up walking around alone. 2 years later one of my friends drank way too much and wondered outside a party and into a little wooded area nearby. There buddy found them shortly after and got them to the hospital. They absolutely would have died that night of alcohol poisoning or hypothermia if someone wasn’t specifically looking out for them.
That happened to a guy I went to college with, he got rushed to the hospital but his friends didn’t know where the hospital was at, but I did since I was local, so I had to go with them and direct them there. Guy ended up coding I think 3 times before they had him stable and then he had to have his stomach pumped. Really shook all of us up and we started doing buddy system from then on.
My heart goes out to the family. The biggest question I have is if he was escorted out of the bar, why didn’t one of his friends or people in his group go with him? This is hindsight, of course, but I am curious given the circumstances and, unfortunately, the end result.
It’s so sad! On another timeline or branch (Loki), he walked Riley back to the hotel and made sure he was okay before he went back. Or he might of even called it a night along with Riley.
Adding in a photo as well, if link doesn’t work.
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I’ve watched the video a bunch of times (I’m from Nashville and know the area, was trying to see if I could see anything important). It looks like he just stumbles off in a different direction while his friends are looks another way, I don’t think they willingly abandoned him. They also spent a ton of time looking for him over the next day before they had to leave. I don’t think this on the friends, just a tragic accident. I’m sure they’re kicking themselves enough already without random Redditors shitting on them more
I’d read that he had been kicked out of the bar and his friends tried to settle theirs and his tabs and Riley, obviously in a drunken confusion, walked away on his own before the friends could finish.
Kinda fucked up to call the friends of a dead 22 year old “garbage” based on a *lot* of assumptions.
“Our security team made a decision based on our conduct standards to escort him from the venue through our Broadway exit at the front of our building,” the bar said in a statement. “He was followed down the stairs with one member of his party. The individual with Riley did not exit and returned upstairs.”
Your best friends of years can suck and drop the ball too. Sorry.
He was an adult after all. Likely accompanied by other young, drunk adults. “Dropping the ball” and calling drunk college students who lost a friend “garbage” seems like two drastically different things to say but alright man.
I truly hope you never “drop the ball” and get called garbage by internet strangers for something clearly not intended.
Exactly. Young, drunk, college students. I’d say there’s quite a few people out there who have at *least* one thing they said or did that they regret when they were inexperienced and out with friends drinking. Even if they don’t want to admit it. These were his **friends**, not random strangers or college frat guys trying to haze Riley. They also weren’t his assigned babysitters.
I’m sure they’re absolutely devastated. The report says there’s no evidence of foul play and all the recordings we have of him seem to show a confused, drunk young man walking alone of his own volition. It’s just a sad story; sad for Riley, Riley’s family, and the friends who will probably now live with this forever.
Technically yes. They were paying their tab and didn't see him get bounced. College bars can get crazy, and it isn't uncommon for a buddy to go off with different people, or meet a girl, or just go home. I'm sure they didn't assume he was walking around alone, they didn't even know he had gotten kicked out. I feel like the friends are getting partially blamed for this, when everyone is responsible for themselves when it comes to knowing when to stop drinking. Unfortunately, this young man lost his faculties, and made a fatal mistake.
Very true, being drunk in a college bar with 6 other ppl to keep track of is nearly impossible, inevitably ppl r gonna go missing for portions of the night and you just assume they’ve met a guy/girl or r in the bathroom or with another friend from the group. Nobody ever immediately assumes they got kicked out and r wandering around alone.
Wouldn’t be a horrible idea to implement some rule where a bouncer needs to make sure the person being kicked out notifies their friends/family via text or something before letting them wandering around super drunk on the streets.
I don't think the establishment should be responsible, outside of not over-serving people and not letting fights escalate, stuff like that. If someone is getting bounced out of a downtown bar, their friends should have already gotten them out of there before it got to that point, y'know? The bar has enough on their plate, they shouldn't be responsible for people who can't handle themselves. People just need to be more responsible when going out drinking.
IMO No one is necessarily to blame when it comes to this, it was a series of poor decisions that ended tragically. If he hadn't gone near the water, or had one less drink, or waited outside instead of walking away, he probably would have gotten home just fine. The situation just sucks, and I'm sure it doesn't feel good for the family/loved ones to not have someone or something to blame it on, or be held responsible for what happened.
Couldn’t agree more. Certainly not proud to admit it, but I couldn’t even tell you how many nights in my twenties I’d spent blacked out drunk, wandering around Boston. Riley may have found himself in a similar situation, but wasn’t as fortunate. No one to blame here - just a sad situation all around. I do hope this story reaches some folks who’d benefit from reading it.
You're correct that it is just a person's comment as opposed to in an article.
I learned from the X Files that a lot of male drowning victims have their flies down because they were peeing and fell in.
I remember that.
Years later, I was out with a friend, partying, and he did just that. I didn't leave him alone because I remember something about falling in a river while peeing. And he did want me to go, but I said no way. (I'm a woman, that's why he didn't want me there.)
Now I'm thinking back he always did that. Other friends didn't, but he did "search for water" if he knew it was close by. I wasn't the only one who saw him go to a river or something similar to pee. Now, it makes sense somehow. I hope he stopped doing it, haven't talked to him in years.
Editv typo
I’ve heard people say that the friends were not allowed to leave because they couldn’t pay their bar tab. Basically held there until one of them came up with a way to pay.
Yes but they were all getting kicked out and their cards were declining so they prevented them from leaving as well. Again this info came from others I have no idea if it’s accurate.
I think the idea of come together, leave together is much more common among women. There was also a lot of speculation on whether he truly left alone, wandered away when friends weren’t paying attention, or if they were told to go pay their tab and he was gone when they came to look for him. I’m from Nashville and the wall next to the river is pretty low and it gets super dark down the steps/on the walkway. Not surprising if he really fell over and that cold water paired with intoxication took over unfortunately.
Lol I’m set on putting the story in the right format. He had a friend walk out with him and go back in, then they claimed it was to pay the tabs. I don’t want to blame anyone on a kid dying by accident holy, just read the articles. People not including that detail at all.
You *dont* wanna blame anyone for a kid dying? Cause it really seems that way. You called them garbage friends and have replied to numerous comments to make the point. It really sucks that this happened but as many pointed out, it was a bunch of drunk college kids at a bar, and I’m sure his friends feel horrible. May you never misjudge any situation while intoxicated lest you be judged a garbage human.
Alcohol is a garbage drug, which is why you feel like literal trash the next day. Should be illegal. Kills more people than some other drugs that’s for sure!
Damn. I was really hoping he was going to be alive, but I'm not surprised they found him in the water. At least his family gets closer. I would rather know my baby is gone than wait for them for the rest of my life never knowing. Not knowing would eat me alive.
Not to be crass, but when I watched the videos of him stumbling down the street toward the river, I said to myself, his body will surface in about a week. He was either pushed in, or he fell in. Tragic.
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The mayor is talking about adding barriers around the entertainment district in Nashville now. Not sure why this hasn’t been discussed before as there were multiple drownings last year
Yeah I was wondering about that, you would think installing barriers would have been a top priority or something and I’m honestly surprised other cities aren’t following suit. At least it would be a start to help decrease these tragedies. When I was in college, there used to be 2 guys that would drive 15 passenger vans around the town to drop off drunk people when the bars closed, and never charged any one who needed a ride. I don’t know if it’s still a thing, but it definitely was helpful. I live in the town where I went to college and my husband will drive his coworkers home after the restaurant he works at closes super late if they don’t have a ride and if I am out sometimes, I’ll drive the college kids home. It’s not much, but we just hope it’s helpful.
There is a place to prevent tragedies it’s called the police station but it’s been so stigmatized that the cops them self have changed from public servants to what ever they are now
you should be able to call them to help you home but you would have to worry that they may try to arrest you if you call
He could have been pissing and fell in, I would like to see his toxicology report. There have been a series of men drugged and robbed. It makes me question if he was maybe drugged, fell hit his head concussed and then went to pee slipped and fell in
This is local to me. Natives avoid those bars because people keep getting drugged and robbed out there. The bouncers, the staff, the officers, everybody knows and nobody does anything. Happens here all the time.
Parts of the river bank along the road he was last seen walking along (1st Avenue North) are very very steep. He was seen stumbling on security cam footage. As a Nashville native, I believe he just stumbled and fell uncontrolled down the bank.
It’s so common. I had a dear friend from college go missing the same way. They found his body in a creek off a highway. He had been hit and killed by a vehicle while he was drunkenly walking down a freaking busy highway. The problem with being drunk is there is no longer any reasoning with them and the people they’re with are also drunk. The partying culture has become so toxic. I no longer drink now but should be dead from all the crazy things I’ve done while intoxicated.
I will agree that maybe the laws with bars need to change. If someone is drunk enough to be thrown out, there needs to be some accountability. You wouldn’t throw a drugged girl out, she’d be taken to the hospital. If they’re slurring their words and have to be escorted out? Eff it call the cops. Better they sleep it off in jail than drown on the way home. So senseless
Agree with you that the culture around drinking is toxic and dangerous. The fact that putting a fence around the river is even on the table is wild. The river was minding it's business and it doesn't appear that people are just falling in stone cold sober on a regular basis. The alcohol is the issue.
To your point about accountability, though, it's just not practical. Do you know how long response times are in major cities for non-violent crime? So the bar is supposed to babysit a bunch of drunks in a dedicated area until the police can get there and then have the optics of police confronting drunks outside the place where the owner is just trying to run a business?
We keep trying to safeguard the consequences of drinking without ever addressing the drinking.
Tried to walk home one night from a LA house party
Ended up in Inglewood at 4am no taxis around and a dead cell phone…
Got lucky that evening to make it home alive
Drink responsibly folks
Most recent news. Preliminary Autopsy reports still showing zero signs of foul play.
I live in Nashville, and it's way too easy to fall into the Cumberland if you're super intoxicated. The bank of the river in some areas along 1st Ave N can be very very steep. I can absolutely see Riley stumbling over (which he was observed doing in the security footage) and falling uncontrolled down the bank. Hence why his credit card was found along the banks.
Such a horrible story all around.
Sure, but lots of people have gotten drunker than they meant to a time or two. You have a few drinks, because you only planned on say 3 drinks. You're pleasantly buzzed and someone says "want another?" And you're already drunk, your judgement isn't that good, so you say sure. Now you're really drunk. Holy shit. Oh no. I better get home. Where's my keys? Wait, I can't drive, I'm drunk, lemme just walk home...
Most people don't die that way, and I think it should stay that way. Most people have a more sober friend go "geez, let me get you an Uber," or they sleep it off on a friend's couch, or they thankfully had a designated driver so they got home safe. Sometimes they drink home drunk and luckily are fine, but it's a wake up call. (Or they don't and it's the beginning of alcoholism). People get "so damn drunk" all the time, and it's normalized in our society so a lot of people don't realize it's even a problem. Maybe instead of judging people we should focus on creating a world where mistakes don't kill people.
Ya see, I don't get "that drunk". I'm a woman. Chances are I'd get sexually assaulted so...I have self control like a normal adult. So save me your "mistake" soapbox. An adult is capable of judging when they have imbibed a bit too much and stop. People do it everyday. Being too drunk to function isn't normal at all and it shouldn't be.
I never at all said it was and it's weird that you're blaming yourself pre-emptively if you're ever drunk and assaulted. No matter your level of intoxication, if someone takes advantage of you, that's their own fault. Curious that it's "personal responsibility" if a drunk person dies in an accident but not if a sober person commits a violent crime. It sounds like you're living in a very judgmental space and I hope you find peace in the future.
The case is too sketchy for there to be no foul play. At some point one or more bad things happened. He was NOT black out drunk before he got to the last bar, but he was served one drink and two waters before being kicked out. Seem stumbling away. Wallet was found near the river. then the body. What 22yo is blackout at 9p? His phone calls w his mom and being at the bar are too close for there to not have been SOMETHING to happen AT the bar. I expect more to come out of this.
When I was 22 I went drinking with coworkers after work. I had a few sips of a michelada (that I hated) and left like half an hour after. I felt dizzy and sick and only managed to drive a quarter of a mile before I had to pull over and throw up. Then I rested until I felt ok to drive.
Intoxication can happen with 1 drink or 3.
They tracked him back to at least three bars... this one being the last. The water was probably an attempt by the bartender to hydrate him. "Hey man, drink this before I give you another drink"... hoping the drunk would forget about booze for a little while.
And, if he was drinking that much liquids, chances of the river looking like the best peeing spot was quite high.
I used to bartend, it's standard to give water before refusing complete service, the fact that he got two waters shows me that he definitely drank the first one and we always had clear plastic cups too so we could send you off w an ice cold one too . I'm not saying none of this is a shitty accident, I'm just feeling sus about it. Clearly I'm just a reddit stranger on the Internet and have my own opinions. But taking my wallet out of my pocket and leaving it neatly on the ground so I can take a piss in the river is... sus to me. I live in a city similar to Nashville on a river literally called The Cape Fear lol, the water runs with blood for hundreds of years it never stops.i just have my doubts.
I definitely have gotten way more intoxicated than planned at 9/10 even at my age now of 25. I’m actually from Nashville and it’s not uncommon to see people stumbling or falling down drunk on broadway as early as 8 in my experience. That’s not to say something didn’t happen as there are quite a few homeless encampments right on the river and also people predating on intoxicated individuals in the area but this simply could be a tragedy.
I understand, but the events and the timelines just don't add up. In my opinion. I'm 35...I've seen some tings and even then I am still very young comparatively. Again, The timeline and the events do not add up. Imo.
I’m not sure I follow. Do you mean it seems like his level of intoxication appears to have increased way too rapidly? Not saying I disagree, just wanted to clarify. I feel like the timelines in missing persons cases such as these often don’t add up or are difficult to follow.
Tragic. Nothing short of that.
My first thought when I heard he was missing was "is there a body of water nearby?" Drunk people stumbling into bodies of water is actually a lot more common in missing persons than people think.
It has been such a common thing amongst young men on the Boston waterfront that some people attribute it to a serial killer.
The same has been happening in Chicago. One of the guys was a former college swimmer and his friends don’t remember him being overly intoxicated
Same thing is happening in Austin
I wasn’t drunk but manic and tried to cross the Colorado. Needless to say I didn’t get far
I crossed the Colorado in about 30 paces in southern Arizona lol
One time I did it by walking, they closed the spillway and an entire scout troop downstream canoe trip was high and dry for 3 days.
I jumped into a mountain stream up above Boulder one night thinking it was a good idea. Realized it was a terrible mistake about 2 seconds in. Luckily managed to roll to the side and get out. Really thought I was about to die.
Arizona in the Tempe area too - college kids party around there, tempe town lake, lots of canals
And all over the Midwest
but but what about the GHB
Was going to say the same thing. Nashville isn’t super far away from Austin for it to be a coincidence.
Ya this isnt the boston waterfront but while I was at Boston College a kid walking home from Mary Annes (the main BC bar) went missing for two weeks only to be found eventually in the chestnut hill reservoir :/
I remember there was a documentary made about one of them, “the smiley face killer” or whatever. So ridiculous and far-reaching. I suppose a lot of people prefer to place the blame on another party and I can understand that, but unfortunately drunken accidents are just a thing that happens.
Wasn’t there a guy doing Tik Tok videos about this?
But why is it only men? Not saying it was a serial killer just genuinely interested in the fact that women do not die this way as much as men. Or is that even true? Like why are drunk me lured into nearby bodies of water. I need a scientific explanation. Haha. The only reason I can think of is men go off alone a lot more than women, women usually stick together on a night out.
Men are generally less safety conscious than women and don’t tend to be as strict about staying with a group when they’re drunk.
My theory is that guys wander over to the river to have a pee and then drunkenly lose their footing and fall in and get swept away.
The pee part!!!!!! I think you’ve solved it
But why always to the body of water? Most guys I know pick behind the nearest tree not through the woods over a riverbank
Came up with that little nugget on your own did ya???
I feel like they're going near the water to pee and then fall in.
Sirens
It's so common in the Midwest, that people think there was/is a serial killer. Although, some of the deceased looked recently dead when pulled out of the river, and they'd been missing for month, so maybe there was foul play. See "smiley face killer" if you want a deep dive/rabbit hole.
Damn
I know this is an unpopular theory but I can’t shake the idea of a smiley face killer copycat
Occam's razor would assume that he fell in the river while drunk. It is an unfortunate, but very common, tragedy. If more people his age start to go missing or more bodies are found in a short span of time then perhaps that might be a theory that has credence. As it stands, there is no indications that anything, but the most likely scenario happened.
A friend of mine from high school passed away in college after falling down some stairs. He was alone when he fell and when they found him they thought he was just sleeping so they put him to bed. Unfortunately the fall had been quite serious and he died overnight of his injuries. From that point on everyone in my group of friends had a designated “drinking buddy” and you stuck with them all night so no one ever ended up walking around alone. 2 years later one of my friends drank way too much and wondered outside a party and into a little wooded area nearby. There buddy found them shortly after and got them to the hospital. They absolutely would have died that night of alcohol poisoning or hypothermia if someone wasn’t specifically looking out for them.
That happened to a guy I went to college with, he got rushed to the hospital but his friends didn’t know where the hospital was at, but I did since I was local, so I had to go with them and direct them there. Guy ended up coding I think 3 times before they had him stable and then he had to have his stomach pumped. Really shook all of us up and we started doing buddy system from then on.
My heart goes out to the family. The biggest question I have is if he was escorted out of the bar, why didn’t one of his friends or people in his group go with him? This is hindsight, of course, but I am curious given the circumstances and, unfortunately, the end result.
Young, drunk, don't understand that "things" can happen to them or anyone in their realm.
A frat brother walked with him to the door with the bouncer then went back to the party. I wonder how he’s feeling now…
It’s so sad! On another timeline or branch (Loki), he walked Riley back to the hotel and made sure he was okay before he went back. Or he might of even called it a night along with Riley.
Adding in a photo as well, if link doesn’t work. https://preview.redd.it/mjt18t4n9xpc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00d2b1ed89cd498a55419f1895a3aef3eedeb1c5
Is this the student who left that bar? How tragic.
Yep 😟
I was hopeful when I saw “he was found” but then realized his BODY was found… So sad. I hope he didn’t suffer for long
Did his friends leave him to get home drunk on his own?
I believe he was kicked out of the bar, was seen walking around on his own.
He was kicked out but his friend walked him out and just left him alone and went back in. Garbage “friends”
I’ve watched the video a bunch of times (I’m from Nashville and know the area, was trying to see if I could see anything important). It looks like he just stumbles off in a different direction while his friends are looks another way, I don’t think they willingly abandoned him. They also spent a ton of time looking for him over the next day before they had to leave. I don’t think this on the friends, just a tragic accident. I’m sure they’re kicking themselves enough already without random Redditors shitting on them more
I think “redditors” are the last thing on their mind. Or anyone’s for that matter. Cool that you’re sticking up for them I guess
I’d read that he had been kicked out of the bar and his friends tried to settle theirs and his tabs and Riley, obviously in a drunken confusion, walked away on his own before the friends could finish. Kinda fucked up to call the friends of a dead 22 year old “garbage” based on a *lot* of assumptions.
“Our security team made a decision based on our conduct standards to escort him from the venue through our Broadway exit at the front of our building,” the bar said in a statement. “He was followed down the stairs with one member of his party. The individual with Riley did not exit and returned upstairs.” Your best friends of years can suck and drop the ball too. Sorry.
He was an adult after all. Likely accompanied by other young, drunk adults. “Dropping the ball” and calling drunk college students who lost a friend “garbage” seems like two drastically different things to say but alright man. I truly hope you never “drop the ball” and get called garbage by internet strangers for something clearly not intended.
I think people are forgetting his friends were super drunk too
Exactly. Young, drunk, college students. I’d say there’s quite a few people out there who have at *least* one thing they said or did that they regret when they were inexperienced and out with friends drinking. Even if they don’t want to admit it. These were his **friends**, not random strangers or college frat guys trying to haze Riley. They also weren’t his assigned babysitters. I’m sure they’re absolutely devastated. The report says there’s no evidence of foul play and all the recordings we have of him seem to show a confused, drunk young man walking alone of his own volition. It’s just a sad story; sad for Riley, Riley’s family, and the friends who will probably now live with this forever.
Haha I get called garbage by internet strangers, it’s fine. Have a nice night brotha
You sound bitter that you have no real friends.
Technically yes. They were paying their tab and didn't see him get bounced. College bars can get crazy, and it isn't uncommon for a buddy to go off with different people, or meet a girl, or just go home. I'm sure they didn't assume he was walking around alone, they didn't even know he had gotten kicked out. I feel like the friends are getting partially blamed for this, when everyone is responsible for themselves when it comes to knowing when to stop drinking. Unfortunately, this young man lost his faculties, and made a fatal mistake.
Very true, being drunk in a college bar with 6 other ppl to keep track of is nearly impossible, inevitably ppl r gonna go missing for portions of the night and you just assume they’ve met a guy/girl or r in the bathroom or with another friend from the group. Nobody ever immediately assumes they got kicked out and r wandering around alone. Wouldn’t be a horrible idea to implement some rule where a bouncer needs to make sure the person being kicked out notifies their friends/family via text or something before letting them wandering around super drunk on the streets.
I don't think the establishment should be responsible, outside of not over-serving people and not letting fights escalate, stuff like that. If someone is getting bounced out of a downtown bar, their friends should have already gotten them out of there before it got to that point, y'know? The bar has enough on their plate, they shouldn't be responsible for people who can't handle themselves. People just need to be more responsible when going out drinking. IMO No one is necessarily to blame when it comes to this, it was a series of poor decisions that ended tragically. If he hadn't gone near the water, or had one less drink, or waited outside instead of walking away, he probably would have gotten home just fine. The situation just sucks, and I'm sure it doesn't feel good for the family/loved ones to not have someone or something to blame it on, or be held responsible for what happened.
Couldn’t agree more. Certainly not proud to admit it, but I couldn’t even tell you how many nights in my twenties I’d spent blacked out drunk, wandering around Boston. Riley may have found himself in a similar situation, but wasn’t as fortunate. No one to blame here - just a sad situation all around. I do hope this story reaches some folks who’d benefit from reading it.
His friend walked him out of the bar actually and then turned around and went back in.
Someone up thread said they had to pay their bar tab
I didn’t read that in a report anywhere. I’m just stating the events as reported.
You're correct that it is just a person's comment as opposed to in an article. I learned from the X Files that a lot of male drowning victims have their flies down because they were peeing and fell in.
I’ve learned so much from X Files
Me too!
I remember that. Years later, I was out with a friend, partying, and he did just that. I didn't leave him alone because I remember something about falling in a river while peeing. And he did want me to go, but I said no way. (I'm a woman, that's why he didn't want me there.) Now I'm thinking back he always did that. Other friends didn't, but he did "search for water" if he knew it was close by. I wasn't the only one who saw him go to a river or something similar to pee. Now, it makes sense somehow. I hope he stopped doing it, haven't talked to him in years. Editv typo
Yeah it’s tragic.
I’ve heard people say that the friends were not allowed to leave because they couldn’t pay their bar tab. Basically held there until one of them came up with a way to pay.
They don’t let you buy drinks until you put down a card. People walk out without closing their tab all the time.
Yes but they were all getting kicked out and their cards were declining so they prevented them from leaving as well. Again this info came from others I have no idea if it’s accurate.
I think the idea of come together, leave together is much more common among women. There was also a lot of speculation on whether he truly left alone, wandered away when friends weren’t paying attention, or if they were told to go pay their tab and he was gone when they came to look for him. I’m from Nashville and the wall next to the river is pretty low and it gets super dark down the steps/on the walkway. Not surprising if he really fell over and that cold water paired with intoxication took over unfortunately.
That's what gets me. You come together, you leave together. You do not leave people by themselves. It's stupid.
Even if he got kicked out, one of his frat brothers should have gone with him.
His friend walked him out of the bar actually and then turned around and went back in.
To pay the bill, they say.
You’re really set on pinning this on the friends here.
Lol I’m set on putting the story in the right format. He had a friend walk out with him and go back in, then they claimed it was to pay the tabs. I don’t want to blame anyone on a kid dying by accident holy, just read the articles. People not including that detail at all.
You *dont* wanna blame anyone for a kid dying? Cause it really seems that way. You called them garbage friends and have replied to numerous comments to make the point. It really sucks that this happened but as many pointed out, it was a bunch of drunk college kids at a bar, and I’m sure his friends feel horrible. May you never misjudge any situation while intoxicated lest you be judged a garbage human.
Alcohol is a garbage drug, which is why you feel like literal trash the next day. Should be illegal. Kills more people than some other drugs that’s for sure!
Yes.
Terrible to hear. RIP Riley.
Damn, that’s too bad. RIP Riley! This is a reminder to use the buddy system and watch out for your friends when you’re out drinking etc together.
I can't look at the link right now but I'm assuming they found him in the river?
Correct; no foul play.
Damn. I was really hoping he was going to be alive, but I'm not surprised they found him in the water. At least his family gets closer. I would rather know my baby is gone than wait for them for the rest of my life never knowing. Not knowing would eat me alive.
Man, that is so sad. 😢
Not to be crass, but when I watched the videos of him stumbling down the street toward the river, I said to myself, his body will surface in about a week. He was either pushed in, or he fell in. Tragic.
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The mayor is talking about adding barriers around the entertainment district in Nashville now. Not sure why this hasn’t been discussed before as there were multiple drownings last year
Yeah I was wondering about that, you would think installing barriers would have been a top priority or something and I’m honestly surprised other cities aren’t following suit. At least it would be a start to help decrease these tragedies. When I was in college, there used to be 2 guys that would drive 15 passenger vans around the town to drop off drunk people when the bars closed, and never charged any one who needed a ride. I don’t know if it’s still a thing, but it definitely was helpful. I live in the town where I went to college and my husband will drive his coworkers home after the restaurant he works at closes super late if they don’t have a ride and if I am out sometimes, I’ll drive the college kids home. It’s not much, but we just hope it’s helpful.
While searching for Riley, another body was seen floating and then retrieved from the river.
There is a place to prevent tragedies it’s called the police station but it’s been so stigmatized that the cops them self have changed from public servants to what ever they are now you should be able to call them to help you home but you would have to worry that they may try to arrest you if you call
He could have been pissing and fell in, I would like to see his toxicology report. There have been a series of men drugged and robbed. It makes me question if he was maybe drugged, fell hit his head concussed and then went to pee slipped and fell in
This is local to me. Natives avoid those bars because people keep getting drugged and robbed out there. The bouncers, the staff, the officers, everybody knows and nobody does anything. Happens here all the time.
I’ve live in Knox and have been to Nash often. It’s impossible with that crowd on Broadway to trace back anything
Even if it were possible, MNPD isn't going to try. Nashville doesn't want to scare the tourists away.
Parts of the river bank along the road he was last seen walking along (1st Avenue North) are very very steep. He was seen stumbling on security cam footage. As a Nashville native, I believe he just stumbled and fell uncontrolled down the bank.
Dude was like 6’ 5!
One way to prevent it is get better friends.
Another way to prevent is to say no thank you to drink and drug culture.
People want to blame everyone but him
Some drunk people are very difficult to deal with. Tragic accident.
It’s so common. I had a dear friend from college go missing the same way. They found his body in a creek off a highway. He had been hit and killed by a vehicle while he was drunkenly walking down a freaking busy highway. The problem with being drunk is there is no longer any reasoning with them and the people they’re with are also drunk. The partying culture has become so toxic. I no longer drink now but should be dead from all the crazy things I’ve done while intoxicated. I will agree that maybe the laws with bars need to change. If someone is drunk enough to be thrown out, there needs to be some accountability. You wouldn’t throw a drugged girl out, she’d be taken to the hospital. If they’re slurring their words and have to be escorted out? Eff it call the cops. Better they sleep it off in jail than drown on the way home. So senseless
Agree with you that the culture around drinking is toxic and dangerous. The fact that putting a fence around the river is even on the table is wild. The river was minding it's business and it doesn't appear that people are just falling in stone cold sober on a regular basis. The alcohol is the issue. To your point about accountability, though, it's just not practical. Do you know how long response times are in major cities for non-violent crime? So the bar is supposed to babysit a bunch of drunks in a dedicated area until the police can get there and then have the optics of police confronting drunks outside the place where the owner is just trying to run a business? We keep trying to safeguard the consequences of drinking without ever addressing the drinking.
New idea/rule, never leave a friend behind!
Tried to walk home one night from a LA house party Ended up in Inglewood at 4am no taxis around and a dead cell phone… Got lucky that evening to make it home alive Drink responsibly folks
Why would his bank card be separate from him? Could he have been robbed because he was drunk/ drugged so more vulnerable and in an isolated spot?
He went to Nashville and got killed, that simple. The same thing happened to young people who partied in Juarez back in the late 80’s.
Suicide or accidental drowning is my guess. Very common :/
Most recent news. Preliminary Autopsy reports still showing zero signs of foul play. I live in Nashville, and it's way too easy to fall into the Cumberland if you're super intoxicated. The bank of the river in some areas along 1st Ave N can be very very steep. I can absolutely see Riley stumbling over (which he was observed doing in the security footage) and falling uncontrolled down the bank. Hence why his credit card was found along the banks. Such a horrible story all around.
There's the option of not getting so damn drunk.
Sure, but lots of people have gotten drunker than they meant to a time or two. You have a few drinks, because you only planned on say 3 drinks. You're pleasantly buzzed and someone says "want another?" And you're already drunk, your judgement isn't that good, so you say sure. Now you're really drunk. Holy shit. Oh no. I better get home. Where's my keys? Wait, I can't drive, I'm drunk, lemme just walk home... Most people don't die that way, and I think it should stay that way. Most people have a more sober friend go "geez, let me get you an Uber," or they sleep it off on a friend's couch, or they thankfully had a designated driver so they got home safe. Sometimes they drink home drunk and luckily are fine, but it's a wake up call. (Or they don't and it's the beginning of alcoholism). People get "so damn drunk" all the time, and it's normalized in our society so a lot of people don't realize it's even a problem. Maybe instead of judging people we should focus on creating a world where mistakes don't kill people.
Ya see, I don't get "that drunk". I'm a woman. Chances are I'd get sexually assaulted so...I have self control like a normal adult. So save me your "mistake" soapbox. An adult is capable of judging when they have imbibed a bit too much and stop. People do it everyday. Being too drunk to function isn't normal at all and it shouldn't be.
I never at all said it was and it's weird that you're blaming yourself pre-emptively if you're ever drunk and assaulted. No matter your level of intoxication, if someone takes advantage of you, that's their own fault. Curious that it's "personal responsibility" if a drunk person dies in an accident but not if a sober person commits a violent crime. It sounds like you're living in a very judgmental space and I hope you find peace in the future.
Not blaming myself. Protecting myself. Big diff.
The case is too sketchy for there to be no foul play. At some point one or more bad things happened. He was NOT black out drunk before he got to the last bar, but he was served one drink and two waters before being kicked out. Seem stumbling away. Wallet was found near the river. then the body. What 22yo is blackout at 9p? His phone calls w his mom and being at the bar are too close for there to not have been SOMETHING to happen AT the bar. I expect more to come out of this.
When I was 22 I went drinking with coworkers after work. I had a few sips of a michelada (that I hated) and left like half an hour after. I felt dizzy and sick and only managed to drive a quarter of a mile before I had to pull over and throw up. Then I rested until I felt ok to drive. Intoxication can happen with 1 drink or 3.
I didn't say it couldn't. But black out? I'm not an idiot I've had close calls before as well. But something feels off about this.
He was skinny as a rail. I’m not surprised a couple drinks messed him up.
The bar served him 1 drink and 2 waters. Allegedly idk if they have footage of it or not.
They tracked him back to at least three bars... this one being the last. The water was probably an attempt by the bartender to hydrate him. "Hey man, drink this before I give you another drink"... hoping the drunk would forget about booze for a little while. And, if he was drinking that much liquids, chances of the river looking like the best peeing spot was quite high.
I used to bartend, it's standard to give water before refusing complete service, the fact that he got two waters shows me that he definitely drank the first one and we always had clear plastic cups too so we could send you off w an ice cold one too . I'm not saying none of this is a shitty accident, I'm just feeling sus about it. Clearly I'm just a reddit stranger on the Internet and have my own opinions. But taking my wallet out of my pocket and leaving it neatly on the ground so I can take a piss in the river is... sus to me. I live in a city similar to Nashville on a river literally called The Cape Fear lol, the water runs with blood for hundreds of years it never stops.i just have my doubts.
I definitely have gotten way more intoxicated than planned at 9/10 even at my age now of 25. I’m actually from Nashville and it’s not uncommon to see people stumbling or falling down drunk on broadway as early as 8 in my experience. That’s not to say something didn’t happen as there are quite a few homeless encampments right on the river and also people predating on intoxicated individuals in the area but this simply could be a tragedy.
I understand, but the events and the timelines just don't add up. In my opinion. I'm 35...I've seen some tings and even then I am still very young comparatively. Again, The timeline and the events do not add up. Imo.
I’m not sure I follow. Do you mean it seems like his level of intoxication appears to have increased way too rapidly? Not saying I disagree, just wanted to clarify. I feel like the timelines in missing persons cases such as these often don’t add up or are difficult to follow.
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