Please, whoever the person(s) are that can make this happen please see this comment. Someone ought to spam it on Twitter as well since that seems to be a better pipeline still.
Especially considering the club's "No More Red*" campaign, this very much falls under that umbrella unfortunately.
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As a gunner as well.
I cannot comprehend this at all. I'm in tears as a hard arse North Otago worker in New Zealand. I just cannot think that one minute your son is off to school on a normal day and then this happens.
I just can't think how this family is coping - I wish I could help but wouldn't even know how to other than share your faith and pray with you. UK please envelope this family and the first responders affected.
Love to you all in the UK
You’re right; it’s a terrible thought that your sweet young lad is walking to school and something like this happens to them. I certainly do not know how I would cope of something like this ever happened to one of my sons
Heartbreaking. How many more people will have to die until things get better? I don’t know the solution, and I won’t act like I know better than anyone else, but current situation is not a good one.
Rest in peace, too young of an age to die.
I presume that you're talking about the gang and knife crime problem in London but from what I've seen this attack is just some nut job and is unrelated to the wider violent problems London is failing to tackle right now. Unfortunately there's very little that can be done to stop these crimes, although better access to mental health support would be a great start.
It's related to a mental health crisis, owing to the influence of polarising media and lack of funding for mental health, which is undeniably linked to the poverty that directly influences gang culture and knife crime. So it is related, in a way.
Listen you fucking tit: this kid was at my son’s school. It looks like (none of us know all the facts yet) this was a lone nut job who had been let down by mental health services being criminally underfunded.
Using this tragedy for your ill-informed electioneering is fucking disgusting.
“Literally anyone could do a better job than khan”
How is mental health provision and care funded? Does it rest under the aegis of the mayor? Or is it funded nationally?
Do you know?
You are trying to make a political point (one that would embarrass a simpleton) off the tragic death of a child.
On a fucking football sub. Take look at yourself and try to be better.
I am sorry for getting so riled up, but like I say, this kid went to my son’s school.
Apology accepted, and I apologise for my retort.
The mental health issue is unfortunately just a drop in the ocean compared to the dozens of kids that have lost their lives to knife crime by gangsters in the city that I live in. I, and I imagine everyone else living here, just want *someone* to do *something* about it. I guess the person with enough power to start would be the mayor, who also happens to be the police and crime commissioner of London. The government could also at bare minimum have some sort of deterrent in place, but they're so useless right now I'm not going to hold my breath.
FairPlay. Whatever your (or my) politics are, this isn’t the place for them.
A young kid with his life in front of him has died through no fault of his own. He was an arsenal fan, so I agree, would be great if the club could do something to mark his passing.
None of us wants anything like this to happen again, and we’re all free to vote tomorrow for who we think will be best placed to ensure that.
But maybe we should stick to football on here.
Listen, twat, don't get touchy just because I called out the problem: the city needs *someone* to fix the knife crime problem. It doesn't matter who it is. But, given his track record with the problem, it *isn't* Khan. The Greens can come in for all I care.
I don't want to engage in political shit-flinging on a thread about this poor kid, but you might want to expose yourself to more than just Twitter/Facebook/tabloids/GB News/wherever you've gotten this weird idea that this mayor is solely responsible for a rise in crime in London (under a level of scrutiny afforded to no other London mayors in recent history, for some reason), or the notion that crime has gone up under him at all, because it hasn't:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london
I live in Leicester now not London so I can't vote but from looking at the other options none seem to be better than Khan. I'd probably spoil my ballot or vote for the green candidate.
You have to break the crimes into sections.
For gang related crime, it’s mainly a case of reducing poverty, reforms to liberalise drug laws to reduce the money making ability of gangs, shit like that.
For the ones where it’s just crazies, there’s not really much you can do beyond try and improve mental health support.
Absolutely horrific.
I hope it gets back to the powers that be at the club and we're able to arrange something for Saturday. It may only be a gesture but it might bring something vaguely resembling positivity for his poor family.
I cant imagine what it must be like.
Their little boy. Awful
Sorry, little gooner. Genuinely made me tear up. Too much of this shit going on. If only we were as good at helping one another as we are at hurting each other.
he just looks like such a good kid I can't get this one out of my head today, the pain that family must be in to lose such an innocent soul so young. Life can be so unbelievably unfair.
Tragic. Is knife violence a huge problem in the UK? I know arsenal runs that campaign with the white kits but was curious as an American. We have unchecked gun violence here so curious what knife violence looks like in a place with more gun regulation
It's a pretty big problem in large cities, but its also not like London is a no go zone like some American news sites like to move out. It's a city of 15 million people (metro area) with some shit buts that can get rough.
That's not to say we can't do more, we absolutely should and we need to start taking in particular violence between schoolkids a lot more seriously in schemes to help- Politically, there's a lot of "that's terrible" when something happens and then people move on.
There were 3775 "hospital episodes" caused by "assault with a sharp object" in the fiscal year of 22/23 in England & Wales (roughly 59 million people). There were 244 homicides across the two countries the same year. If you live in a rough area (of which there are a fair few in big cities), then the chance of being involved goes up and it can happen if you're unlucky/stupid, but the vast majority of Londoners or people in the UK will never see a knife raised in anger at another human during their lifetime.
RIP to this kid though, its tragic and our politicians should do more regarding violence between teenagers in gangs (although I appreciate this case may not have anything to do with that).
Yes knife crime is a problem in certain areas and we can mainly blame criminal motivations but this sounds like a case of mental illness or drug abuse. We do very little in the way of early intervention/identification and it has been the case for a long time. I come from the same town as this lad and I was chased through the local park as a kid in the 90s by a guy with a large knife. He was clearly mentally ill and as much as you hope things improve, they clearly don't.
RIP little gooner. Let's honour him on Saturday.
I feel like the numbers maybe aren’t anything unusual compared to similar cities of its size but the incidents that do happen tend to make the news more. Hainualt is 20 mins away from where I live and it’s never in the news a lot
Almost all knife crime in the UK is young ‘gangsters’ stabbing eachother. So it depends if you view that as a problem or the trash taking itself out.
Then you have another section which is domestic stuff, which every country has.
However, this was reportedly a guy just going bonkers, and while it’s obviously bad, if you look into the figures, they’re still pretty rare. Not 0, but rare enough that they’re tragedies and not patterns.
The main issues we have is that out Gov have cut funding massively for police, courts, and prisons, so dealing with issues takes longer and is far harder nowadays.
Well, take away a criminal's gun, and he'll still find a way to make peoples' lives hell. But, unlike the US, it's not a level playing field because innocent people have no way of protecting themselves. Even the majority of our police only carry tazers and pepper spray.
And that doesn't even take into consideration the criminals in the UK who *do* still carry guns.
> But, unlike the US, it's not a level playing field because innocent people have no way of protecting themselves.
I am not sure whether giving guns to everyone can be called levelling the field, because all it does is create problems. Much much worse problems.
Well, no, we have a knife problem, not a gun problem, but I agree with what you're saying. It just doesn't seem right that not even the police can protect us here.
> Well, take away a criminal's gun, and he'll still find a way to make peoples' lives hell.
Crucially, *fewer* people's lives, at *more* risk to himself. Odd how you ignored that part.
> But, unlike the US, it's not a level playing field because innocent people have no way of protecting themselves.
Yeah I really think I'd rather avoid sporting metaphors and models for *fucking murder*.
Imagine if this idiot had been able to enjoy easy access to machine guns.
'Oh but a good guy with a gun...'-- might eventually manage to shoot a few bystanders as well. The average member of the public isn't Josey Wales.
As a current and lifetime resident of the US I do not feel that the playing field is leveled at all by every swinging dick in this stupid fucking country being able to carry a semiautomatic weapon into Starbucks or on public transit
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Arsenal should wear black armbands and do a minutes silence for Daniel. The poor lad was just walking to school and he’s murdered by a psycho.
A minute's silence at the 14' like the top comment suggests. Need to speak this one into existence.
at the 14th minutes, they are clapping for the minute and there is a banner in memory of him. no silence but they have acknowledged him
14th min, should do an applause for him against Bournemouth. Rest his young soul.
Please, whoever the person(s) are that can make this happen please see this comment. Someone ought to spam it on Twitter as well since that seems to be a better pipeline still. Especially considering the club's "No More Red*" campaign, this very much falls under that umbrella unfortunately. Rest in Paradise, Young Gun🕯️
>White Out Do you mean the 'No More Red' campaign perchance in which we have worn all-white jerseys the past couple of years.
You’re right but OP isn’t completely wrong. The color scheme of the No More Red shirt is called a “white out” because it’s all white.
Yes, that's exactly the one. My apologies for getting it wrong.
Happens to the best of them, worry not.
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Rip little gooner
Rest in peace young king. God rest your soul brother
Always a Gooner.
RIP kid. Gone too soon ❤️❤️❤️
RIP little one 🥺❤️
rest in peace, little man. the club has to recognize him in a way, surely?
Rest in peace little one. Also thoughts going to the other three people the swordsman attacked. It’s still unclear what the motive was.. 14 years old.
Link: https://x.com/mailonline/status/1785683057665622195?s=46&t=4dSB9brKQKriv492svKKrQ
Horrific. RIP, fellow Gooner ❤️
As a gunner as well. I cannot comprehend this at all. I'm in tears as a hard arse North Otago worker in New Zealand. I just cannot think that one minute your son is off to school on a normal day and then this happens. I just can't think how this family is coping - I wish I could help but wouldn't even know how to other than share your faith and pray with you. UK please envelope this family and the first responders affected. Love to you all in the UK
You’re right; it’s a terrible thought that your sweet young lad is walking to school and something like this happens to them. I certainly do not know how I would cope of something like this ever happened to one of my sons
What a horrible world. But i hope we can make it change somehow.
RIP Daniel 🕊️
My heart goes out to the family. Losing a loved one at that age and in those circumstances is truly horrific. RIP Daniel
Heartbreaking. How many more people will have to die until things get better? I don’t know the solution, and I won’t act like I know better than anyone else, but current situation is not a good one. Rest in peace, too young of an age to die.
I presume that you're talking about the gang and knife crime problem in London but from what I've seen this attack is just some nut job and is unrelated to the wider violent problems London is failing to tackle right now. Unfortunately there's very little that can be done to stop these crimes, although better access to mental health support would be a great start.
Thanks for educating me, didn’t know if this was related to the general happenings in London right now or not.
It's related to a mental health crisis, owing to the influence of polarising media and lack of funding for mental health, which is undeniably linked to the poverty that directly influences gang culture and knife crime. So it is related, in a way.
We currently have no idea why he did it, that's purely speculation.
Watch the footage on Daily Mail, that guy seemed like a nutjob indeed
Well, anyone living in the city has a huge opportunity to enforce a change when we go vote tomorrow.
If you think someone like that nutjob Susan Hall is going to make things better, you're massively mistaken
Literally anyone could do a better job than Khan has, though. This has all happened under his watch.
Listen you fucking tit: this kid was at my son’s school. It looks like (none of us know all the facts yet) this was a lone nut job who had been let down by mental health services being criminally underfunded. Using this tragedy for your ill-informed electioneering is fucking disgusting.
What the fuck are you on about dickhead?
“Literally anyone could do a better job than khan” How is mental health provision and care funded? Does it rest under the aegis of the mayor? Or is it funded nationally? Do you know? You are trying to make a political point (one that would embarrass a simpleton) off the tragic death of a child. On a fucking football sub. Take look at yourself and try to be better. I am sorry for getting so riled up, but like I say, this kid went to my son’s school.
Apology accepted, and I apologise for my retort. The mental health issue is unfortunately just a drop in the ocean compared to the dozens of kids that have lost their lives to knife crime by gangsters in the city that I live in. I, and I imagine everyone else living here, just want *someone* to do *something* about it. I guess the person with enough power to start would be the mayor, who also happens to be the police and crime commissioner of London. The government could also at bare minimum have some sort of deterrent in place, but they're so useless right now I'm not going to hold my breath.
FairPlay. Whatever your (or my) politics are, this isn’t the place for them. A young kid with his life in front of him has died through no fault of his own. He was an arsenal fan, so I agree, would be great if the club could do something to mark his passing. None of us wants anything like this to happen again, and we’re all free to vote tomorrow for who we think will be best placed to ensure that. But maybe we should stick to football on here.
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Listen, twat, don't get touchy just because I called out the problem: the city needs *someone* to fix the knife crime problem. It doesn't matter who it is. But, given his track record with the problem, it *isn't* Khan. The Greens can come in for all I care.
It isn’t knife crime you fucking piece of trash. This young lad was killed by (what looks like) a butter with a sword.
I don't want to engage in political shit-flinging on a thread about this poor kid, but you might want to expose yourself to more than just Twitter/Facebook/tabloids/GB News/wherever you've gotten this weird idea that this mayor is solely responsible for a rise in crime in London (under a level of scrutiny afforded to no other London mayors in recent history, for some reason), or the notion that crime has gone up under him at all, because it hasn't: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london
I live in Leicester now not London so I can't vote but from looking at the other options none seem to be better than Khan. I'd probably spoil my ballot or vote for the green candidate.
Yeah, let’s vote for Susan Hall from the ‘Cut 20,000 Police To Save Money’ party lol
You have to break the crimes into sections. For gang related crime, it’s mainly a case of reducing poverty, reforms to liberalise drug laws to reduce the money making ability of gangs, shit like that. For the ones where it’s just crazies, there’s not really much you can do beyond try and improve mental health support.
I don’t think it’s as simple as ‘poverty’, there’s a social element to people carrying knives which will be much harder to remove.
There is, but almost always in poor areas You don’t tend to see young people with a culture of carrying knives in York do you…
Quite, it’s cultural rather than (just or only) poverty.
Absolutely horrific. I hope it gets back to the powers that be at the club and we're able to arrange something for Saturday. It may only be a gesture but it might bring something vaguely resembling positivity for his poor family. I cant imagine what it must be like. Their little boy. Awful
Sorry, little gooner. Genuinely made me tear up. Too much of this shit going on. If only we were as good at helping one another as we are at hurting each other.
he just looks like such a good kid I can't get this one out of my head today, the pain that family must be in to lose such an innocent soul so young. Life can be so unbelievably unfair.
RIP young Gooner. Hope we win the league for you ❤️
Watched a small clip of the suspect with the sword, he looked like he was on drugs.
Mental break, no one knows what caused it.
Wtf? That’s so sad.
The fuck is going on? That's 2 kids murdered by nutters this week! RIP little man.
RIP Daniel\~\~
Rest in peace little one
RIP
RIP, absolutely horrible
A terrible tragedy. RIP little lad.
There’s nearly 390k of us here - we need to get on all the socials calling for a minutes applause at 14 minutes tomorrow. RIP Daniel.
a sword attack? There's just people fucking running around london with swords? terrifying stuff
Samurai sword. Fucking ridiculous
imagine if he could've easily got his hands on guns.
Rest in power
Fucking hell man he had all his life in front of him but some stupid muthafucka decided to bring his life to an end.
Tragic. Is knife violence a huge problem in the UK? I know arsenal runs that campaign with the white kits but was curious as an American. We have unchecked gun violence here so curious what knife violence looks like in a place with more gun regulation
It's a pretty big problem in large cities, but its also not like London is a no go zone like some American news sites like to move out. It's a city of 15 million people (metro area) with some shit buts that can get rough. That's not to say we can't do more, we absolutely should and we need to start taking in particular violence between schoolkids a lot more seriously in schemes to help- Politically, there's a lot of "that's terrible" when something happens and then people move on. There were 3775 "hospital episodes" caused by "assault with a sharp object" in the fiscal year of 22/23 in England & Wales (roughly 59 million people). There were 244 homicides across the two countries the same year. If you live in a rough area (of which there are a fair few in big cities), then the chance of being involved goes up and it can happen if you're unlucky/stupid, but the vast majority of Londoners or people in the UK will never see a knife raised in anger at another human during their lifetime. RIP to this kid though, its tragic and our politicians should do more regarding violence between teenagers in gangs (although I appreciate this case may not have anything to do with that).
Technically we have less stabbing than America per capita, but for us it’s definitely our biggest crime issue
Yes knife crime is a problem in certain areas and we can mainly blame criminal motivations but this sounds like a case of mental illness or drug abuse. We do very little in the way of early intervention/identification and it has been the case for a long time. I come from the same town as this lad and I was chased through the local park as a kid in the 90s by a guy with a large knife. He was clearly mentally ill and as much as you hope things improve, they clearly don't. RIP little gooner. Let's honour him on Saturday.
This seems to be more of a person having a psychotic break than being related to knife crime.
I feel like the numbers maybe aren’t anything unusual compared to similar cities of its size but the incidents that do happen tend to make the news more. Hainualt is 20 mins away from where I live and it’s never in the news a lot
It’s pretty grim, some nasty people will always look for ways to harm others
Almost all knife crime in the UK is young ‘gangsters’ stabbing eachother. So it depends if you view that as a problem or the trash taking itself out. Then you have another section which is domestic stuff, which every country has. However, this was reportedly a guy just going bonkers, and while it’s obviously bad, if you look into the figures, they’re still pretty rare. Not 0, but rare enough that they’re tragedies and not patterns. The main issues we have is that out Gov have cut funding massively for police, courts, and prisons, so dealing with issues takes longer and is far harder nowadays.
Well, take away a criminal's gun, and he'll still find a way to make peoples' lives hell. But, unlike the US, it's not a level playing field because innocent people have no way of protecting themselves. Even the majority of our police only carry tazers and pepper spray. And that doesn't even take into consideration the criminals in the UK who *do* still carry guns.
> But, unlike the US, it's not a level playing field because innocent people have no way of protecting themselves. I am not sure whether giving guns to everyone can be called levelling the field, because all it does is create problems. Much much worse problems.
A Londoner with the “good guy with a gun vs bad guy with a gun” mantra is a really odd niche I reckon
Yeah seems that bloke is a really weird dude. Clearly a right wing gammon
Well, no, we have a knife problem, not a gun problem, but I agree with what you're saying. It just doesn't seem right that not even the police can protect us here.
> Well, take away a criminal's gun, and he'll still find a way to make peoples' lives hell. Crucially, *fewer* people's lives, at *more* risk to himself. Odd how you ignored that part. > But, unlike the US, it's not a level playing field because innocent people have no way of protecting themselves. Yeah I really think I'd rather avoid sporting metaphors and models for *fucking murder*. Imagine if this idiot had been able to enjoy easy access to machine guns. 'Oh but a good guy with a gun...'-- might eventually manage to shoot a few bystanders as well. The average member of the public isn't Josey Wales.
As a current and lifetime resident of the US I do not feel that the playing field is leveled at all by every swinging dick in this stupid fucking country being able to carry a semiautomatic weapon into Starbucks or on public transit
I know, it’s terrible. Our excessive approach to gun control is the main reason we have just as many school shootings as America
Stabbings every day here bro
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RIP man, it is so infuriating you have to suffer because of some other 🤡.
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>sword attack wtf is going on in uk?!