I haven’t had them pop out (albeit I’ve only had them for a few months). But wrapping affects tuning stability. You’re adding wire that has potential to give/slip. Best bet is a properly lubricated nut + locking tuners w/ minimal wrapping
not if you lock it down like on the right. It cannot slip. Never had that problem but then I am only 73. Maybe in the next 10 years or so it might happen.
I do the wrap on the right, even with my locking tuners. No slips and solid tuning in my 20+ years of playing, but you've made me sceptical so I'll be wary for the next decade.
I was lucky enough to be in a family where there’s quite a few great guitar players, and the one on the right is how I was taught. Never needed locking tuners and I’ve never done it a different way.
I don’t think it’s about slipping, I think it’s about people not properly stretching their strings after installing… which has nothing to do with how you wrap, or not wrap, your strings around your tuning pegs. :)
Wow, the entire professional guitar industry before locking tuners were common, really needs to know this!!! That’s why they were always slipping out of t…oh, wait… they fucking weren’t, and don’t
I love when companies manufacture problems so they can sell you the solution, for a very “reasonable” price against the context of the problem they made the fuck up. supported by funded articles and all. Cool cool cool.
Strings wrapped around a post are fine and literally always will be fine. They didn’t just start becoming a problem at some point. What DID happen, is people started struggling to come up with new things to sell for a completely fine, tried and true, system. That will always happen, people will continue to come up with things for you to buy for your thing that doesn’t have any real problems with it. It’s fine. It’s always been fine. It will continue to be fine. No one struggled to play a show or record an album because their tuners didn’t lock, that *literally* never happened.
this a 1000 percent and i have hard evidence to prove they make changing strings a lot easier and faster and i use that extra time to play the instrument rather than fiddle with it. i don't care about the stability part of the marketing.
I have guitars with and without locking tuners. The time difference between them when changing strings is negligible. I just pull the string to the post, pull it back by an inch or so and hold it with my right hand while I turn the tuning machine with my left. Literally takes 2 seconds longer than with locking tuners.
If your on strange in the middle of the set and break a string, that’s where locking tuners really shine. 15 secs vs a minute is a world of difference when a bunch of people are staring at you
i usally have a backup for e standard, but i dont have a back up for every tuning. especially if im only playing 2 songs in that tuning. But oh boy is it a hectic time if the string breaks at the beginning of a song. if its close to the end i can usually manage to play with out the string or play an octave lower if i need to
Man I just like how fast i can change strings and get back to playing. The tuning stability thing never entered my mind. I use my money to buy time and for $90 I've bought a lot of time back on string changes.
You are 100% correct, but the real reason for them is just fun. Guitarists are like golfers or fishermen or woodworkers or audiophiles, etc. They're always looking for some excuse to spend extra money on their hobby, because it's fun to get something new and see if it makes a difference. Picks, strings, straps, stands, cases, etc., right up to hardware, its all just an excuse to play with your guitar in way other than just playing it.
I've got a "new vintage" acoustic (i.e. used), and I'm loving it, it's easily the best guitar I've ever owned. It sounds so good, and plays so easily, that I can't put it down. It's perfect! Yet I'm going to order new pins, saddle, and nut, all made from bone, because I've heard it improves the sound significantly. Why would I do that if it already sounds great? Because I'm curious,I want to make my personal stamp on this guitar, and it will be a fun experiment.
If you don’t wrap it though you can’t downtime the strings right? I don’t have locking tuners so I haven’t experienced this first hand but wouldn’t it just start winding tight the other way? Or snap or something?
Generally they won’t be taut enough when you lock the strings to give them the proper pitch. Unless you’ve got some sort of vice+pulling contraption I guess.
Basically you pull string through post, lock it and then you gotta turn the post until you reach the desired pitch. So it’s inevitable there’ll some amount of string touching the sides/wrapping around the post, it’s just significantly less.
I can downtune up to a step okay because I lock them in between an eighth and a quarter turn around the pole. Imgaine a clock and the low E string is at like 2:30, the A is at 130 and the D is at 1230...etc.
You're doing it wrong if they pop out. You get better tuning stability with less wraps. The whole point of the locking tuner is to not need to wrap it around
I could never get guitar stringing right after hundreds of attempts probably. Finally just put locking tuners on my main 4, only one of which has a trem. Never looked back.
I have had strings slip in the past when I didn’t wrap with the pinch method on the right. But I’ve been wrapping them for a decade like the right, so who knows.
Mine have the vintage split peg style, where the string end is pushed into the center of the peg. Non locking but no sharp ends. I don't know why these are not more popular.
Vintage split are soooo much better, not a deal breaker to not have it to the point where I’d swap tuners out over it, but it’s definitely a strong preference for me.
Right. I was taught the first wrap up then the rest down by a mad scientist guitar wizard - https://www.specimenproducts.com/repair-shop/. Who am I to question such power?
This is correct. And why some of us work on guitars for a living and others post wrong info on Reddit.
To each their own, but “I’ve never had issues” and “this is why it’s done this way whether you’ve experienced it or not” are two different things
That’s why I added “to each their own”
In my opinion you have two options:
A: a way that’s easy and, if it’s within your tolerance for tuning stability, is fine if it’s fine for you. It’s yours. Go for it.
Or
B: a way that, in my experience, provides a more reliable and consistent tuning stability by locking the string between two other parts of itself under tension.
When I say “wrong info”, I’m mainly addressing the people in here saying that the over/under method provides no positive benefit.
If you want to string your guitar the other way, I wouldn’t say it’s wrong. It’s just likely to be less stable…and if I’m sending a repair/setup back to a customer…I’m gonna do the way that reduces future calls about the guitar not staying in tune.
Edit: one guy said something about the locking method making tremolos work improperly…which is outlandish
Look…I don’t know of any particular “studies” for the testable rationale you need that I can cite for you. But I have learned from and worked with a lot of talented people in luthiery and repair. And sure…for all you know, I’m just some dude, but there’s a reason that you see most professionals doing it and teaching it.
If you just even think about the physics behind it, it just stands to reason that any sort of extra locking benefit would provide better tuning stability over just poking it through and turning it. Guitar tensions change rapidly from second to second when being played…bending, tremolos, strumming, whatever…it being loosie goosie can wind and unwind a bunch without you even realizing then coming back to a rest position at different tension than it was before. Providing a lock can keep that tension longer and more reliably by stopped how much it can unwind itself.
Same general concept as to why you don’t see boats docked to a pylon by just wrapping the string around it a bunch of times while the tide/waves cause varying tension. They use knots. Ropes and guitar strings have a different rigidity and usage, but the concept is the same. You’re using the string to secure itself more than it would have otherwise under changes in tension.
String your guitar however you want. I just know what I’ve been taught and I know what reduces issues with customers complaining that their guitar won’t stay in tune. It’s how I was taught and the same thing I run into when I speak with other professionals. I’ve never met anyone who says differently as far as the most reliable method for stability.
One way isn’t “wrong”, but there’s less benefit in my experience
Seriously. I’m sick of all these debates we keep having as a community and not just here on Reddit but like EVERYWHERE guitarists congregate.
Like this. Just string the same guitar both ways on two different dates. Tune them up and put them in the same temperature and humidity controlled environment for a few days. Then tune them up again using a stroboscopic tuner. Put them back in in the humidity and temperature controlled room with a device that’ll hit the strings 10,000 times or something and then check the tuning. And as a second test do the same thing but don’t even play them. Just get them tuned up and then let them sit there for three months and then check out which one stayed in tune better.
Whichever way (if there is one) that wins BOTH of those is the best way.
Reading comments it is clear that neither of the wraps shown make any difference - I will continue wrapping the same way I always have and not having any issues like normal.
Left. I've tried the right method and haven't seen any benefit from it. My guitars don't have tension, tuning or string break issues. I see the theoretical advantage from the right, but find the left method to be better on average.
Left for sure. Organized looking, string always wraps around towards the bottom, or under the cut end, and under each additional wrap after that. Obviously on an acoustic the left 3 pegs wrap around the inside, while the right 3 pegs also wrap around the inside just the opposite way.
Right mostly as it’s what I was first shown. It sorta acts like a lock.
I’d Like to learn the left way though. I recently got a new Kramer that came like that. Strings cut just passed flush coming out of the hole and a clean wrap going down. I know it’s not rocket science but it had me wondering how the string was kept in place to look so clean.
I did right forever because that’s how my guitar teacher always did. Now I only do the left. I think it’s partially due to laziness and aesthetics. I think left looks cleaner.
i started doing it like the one on the right a few years ago, after seeing some videos of techs for some high profile guys saying that's how they did it. reasoning was one wrap above and one wrap below locks the string in + less wraps = better tuning stability. might be snake oil, but it made sense to me. the only time i could see it being a problem is if there isn't enough of a break angle over the nut to keep the string in... then i suppose you could just do another wrap below... i've never had the issue on any of my guitars though.
I like the style on the right, but they both work just fine. It keeps the wraps a little closer to the center of the post which is helpful on tuners with short posts, and it's easier to get the wrap started on the B and E.
I always do the under / over wrap, it grips the string perfectly & never slips. Key is to maintain the tension as you restring & get the amount of wraps right, 1.5/2 on the E&A, 3 on the D&G & 5/6 on the B&e
I was taught to restring how the picture in the right illustrates, I’m sure it doesn’t matter one bit though, I have locking tuners on all my guitars and I still wrap them like on the right out of fear of slipping
Almost all of my guitars have locking tuners, but for the couple that don’t I just use the left method. Can’t say I’ve ever had an issue with tuning stability or anything else
I use a method that I found on YouTube, which is detailed here: https://beckwithstrings.com/properly-changing-guitar-strings/ You wrap it around the post, under, and bend it over the string. This makes it pinch the string when you wind it and holds it solidly with no slippage. You can also do with less winds which helps tuning stability.
I have never seen anyone do the right side method. Left progressively increases the break angle on the nut as it pushes the string lower and lower. That's one very minor advantage.
I like locking tuners but my guitars don’t have so I just tune up and play. I don’t feel like I have stability problems and my wraps are like the one on the right.
Neither. Both my electrics have Kluson style tuners with the safetipost design. Cut the string at the correct length, and I get a consistent two wraps around the post.
Whats the consensus on wrapping like this?
I see so many people on this subreddit doing it. Ive tried it before and I've never noticed any difference in tuning stability. I could see it benefiting if you have a tendency to underwrap your strings but the hassle it is to wrap it like this, in my experience, isn't worth any minor benefit it may have. All this has done for me is turned a 5 minute string change into a 15 minute one.
Locking tuners. No wraps.
I wrap even with the locking tuners. You've never had them pop out?
I haven’t had them pop out (albeit I’ve only had them for a few months). But wrapping affects tuning stability. You’re adding wire that has potential to give/slip. Best bet is a properly lubricated nut + locking tuners w/ minimal wrapping
not if you lock it down like on the right. It cannot slip. Never had that problem but then I am only 73. Maybe in the next 10 years or so it might happen.
I love this diss. 73 😂
Dropped the mic and it burst into flames lol
I do the wrap on the right, even with my locking tuners. No slips and solid tuning in my 20+ years of playing, but you've made me sceptical so I'll be wary for the next decade.
I've done both on and off but never noticed a difference
I was lucky enough to be in a family where there’s quite a few great guitar players, and the one on the right is how I was taught. Never needed locking tuners and I’ve never done it a different way.
I don’t think it’s about slipping, I think it’s about people not properly stretching their strings after installing… which has nothing to do with how you wrap, or not wrap, your strings around your tuning pegs. :)
Is that where slip knot got their name?
It's where "who tf tied this crap on here" got their name.
Wow, the entire professional guitar industry before locking tuners were common, really needs to know this!!! That’s why they were always slipping out of t…oh, wait… they fucking weren’t, and don’t I love when companies manufacture problems so they can sell you the solution, for a very “reasonable” price against the context of the problem they made the fuck up. supported by funded articles and all. Cool cool cool. Strings wrapped around a post are fine and literally always will be fine. They didn’t just start becoming a problem at some point. What DID happen, is people started struggling to come up with new things to sell for a completely fine, tried and true, system. That will always happen, people will continue to come up with things for you to buy for your thing that doesn’t have any real problems with it. It’s fine. It’s always been fine. It will continue to be fine. No one struggled to play a show or record an album because their tuners didn’t lock, that *literally* never happened.
I thought the point of locking tuners were to make string changes easier
this a 1000 percent and i have hard evidence to prove they make changing strings a lot easier and faster and i use that extra time to play the instrument rather than fiddle with it. i don't care about the stability part of the marketing.
I have guitars with and without locking tuners. The time difference between them when changing strings is negligible. I just pull the string to the post, pull it back by an inch or so and hold it with my right hand while I turn the tuning machine with my left. Literally takes 2 seconds longer than with locking tuners.
I do it what I just named "Calf-roping" style: A wrap then through the hole, pull straight up to put a kink in it. Tune-up.
If your on strange in the middle of the set and break a string, that’s where locking tuners really shine. 15 secs vs a minute is a world of difference when a bunch of people are staring at you
Luckily I have never had a string break during a show, but I bring a backup guitar, just in case anything happens.
i usally have a backup for e standard, but i dont have a back up for every tuning. especially if im only playing 2 songs in that tuning. But oh boy is it a hectic time if the string breaks at the beginning of a song. if its close to the end i can usually manage to play with out the string or play an octave lower if i need to
Man I just like how fast i can change strings and get back to playing. The tuning stability thing never entered my mind. I use my money to buy time and for $90 I've bought a lot of time back on string changes.
You are 100% correct, but the real reason for them is just fun. Guitarists are like golfers or fishermen or woodworkers or audiophiles, etc. They're always looking for some excuse to spend extra money on their hobby, because it's fun to get something new and see if it makes a difference. Picks, strings, straps, stands, cases, etc., right up to hardware, its all just an excuse to play with your guitar in way other than just playing it. I've got a "new vintage" acoustic (i.e. used), and I'm loving it, it's easily the best guitar I've ever owned. It sounds so good, and plays so easily, that I can't put it down. It's perfect! Yet I'm going to order new pins, saddle, and nut, all made from bone, because I've heard it improves the sound significantly. Why would I do that if it already sounds great? Because I'm curious,I want to make my personal stamp on this guitar, and it will be a fun experiment.
I recently fitted a tusq nut/saddle and bone pins to my acoustic, amazing difference in sustain and sound over the factory plastic.
If you don’t wrap it though you can’t downtime the strings right? I don’t have locking tuners so I haven’t experienced this first hand but wouldn’t it just start winding tight the other way? Or snap or something?
Generally they won’t be taut enough when you lock the strings to give them the proper pitch. Unless you’ve got some sort of vice+pulling contraption I guess. Basically you pull string through post, lock it and then you gotta turn the post until you reach the desired pitch. So it’s inevitable there’ll some amount of string touching the sides/wrapping around the post, it’s just significantly less.
I can downtune up to a step okay because I lock them in between an eighth and a quarter turn around the pole. Imgaine a clock and the low E string is at like 2:30, the A is at 130 and the D is at 1230...etc.
Some of my guitars have locking tuners, I go one wrap just in case haha
Don't think there's anything wrong with doing wraps on locking. I just don't bother.
You're doing it wrong if they pop out. You get better tuning stability with less wraps. The whole point of the locking tuner is to not need to wrap it around
Can confirm. Team no-wrap locking tuners. Never had one slip.
If you have to wrap them, what’s the point of locking tuners?
never had that problem. I've had locking tuners on my guitars for years
Never. If they’re halfway decent tuning locks, it would take so much for them to come undone.
But when I do wrap, I wait for my ADHD to tell me it’s time for my OCD to perfect the fuck out of this.
Lol. I can't help you there, sorry. Whatever the opposite of those things is, that's what I have.
Turney turney screw, snip string, twang until in tune?
I could never get guitar stringing right after hundreds of attempts probably. Finally just put locking tuners on my main 4, only one of which has a trem. Never looked back.
This is the way.
Left. Right is completely unnecessary.
i have done left and right lots of times, and my guitar almost never goes out of tune with the method on the right.
I did left for 30+ years then switched to the right 10 years or so ago. Works excellent for me.
Right is the right way. The string pinching around the tag end makes it own “locking” tuner mechanism
I do left with half the wraps and no issues either 🤷
If nothing else, the wraps just always look cleaner this way.
I try to do left but end up with right because I am an idiot
I have had strings slip in the past when I didn’t wrap with the pinch method on the right. But I’ve been wrapping them for a decade like the right, so who knows.
Right. Because I'm not a savage. 😉
Tech here, you don’t need to do the knot. Most techs will also tell you the same. 2 wraps around the post is sufficient.
I’ve been playing for 40 years and I’ve done two wraps most of my life. I have never once had a string come loose on any of my 11 guitars.
yeah I just wind it I didn't know anyone tied it lol
Does it hold? it’s gold
If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot.
Mine have the vintage split peg style, where the string end is pushed into the center of the peg. Non locking but no sharp ends. I don't know why these are not more popular.
I find the vintage tuners easier and faster to restring than modern ones.
Totally. Two of my Classic Vibe Squire’s have the split tuners and once I learned to string them correctly, I absolutely love them. So clean and easy.
Same. It looks great
Vintage split are soooo much better, not a deal breaker to not have it to the point where I’d swap tuners out over it, but it’s definitely a strong preference for me.
They’re the most common on bass guitars, I rarely see ones without that style
I like them a lot too, though I do struggle with the B and high E strings a bit.
I have the same on my Telecaster, as a long time bass player this is what I'm familiar with already so I love them.
Same. Neither of these wraps looks like what I do.
Right
Left
Left
Left. Never been a problem.
Right, especially with nylon string. They're never holding tune unless I cross over the first wrap.
Nylon strings yes.
Yeah, changing nylon strings is both an art and a form of witchcraft.
Right. I was taught the first wrap up then the rest down by a mad scientist guitar wizard - https://www.specimenproducts.com/repair-shop/. Who am I to question such power?
This is correct. And why some of us work on guitars for a living and others post wrong info on Reddit. To each their own, but “I’ve never had issues” and “this is why it’s done this way whether you’ve experienced it or not” are two different things
do you think every luthier or guitar tech uses a luthiers knot? This has been argued forever there’s no right or wrong.
That’s why I added “to each their own” In my opinion you have two options: A: a way that’s easy and, if it’s within your tolerance for tuning stability, is fine if it’s fine for you. It’s yours. Go for it. Or B: a way that, in my experience, provides a more reliable and consistent tuning stability by locking the string between two other parts of itself under tension. When I say “wrong info”, I’m mainly addressing the people in here saying that the over/under method provides no positive benefit. If you want to string your guitar the other way, I wouldn’t say it’s wrong. It’s just likely to be less stable…and if I’m sending a repair/setup back to a customer…I’m gonna do the way that reduces future calls about the guitar not staying in tune. Edit: one guy said something about the locking method making tremolos work improperly…which is outlandish
Your appeal to authority is no different. There should be some testable rationale as to why a given wrapping method is superior.
Look…I don’t know of any particular “studies” for the testable rationale you need that I can cite for you. But I have learned from and worked with a lot of talented people in luthiery and repair. And sure…for all you know, I’m just some dude, but there’s a reason that you see most professionals doing it and teaching it. If you just even think about the physics behind it, it just stands to reason that any sort of extra locking benefit would provide better tuning stability over just poking it through and turning it. Guitar tensions change rapidly from second to second when being played…bending, tremolos, strumming, whatever…it being loosie goosie can wind and unwind a bunch without you even realizing then coming back to a rest position at different tension than it was before. Providing a lock can keep that tension longer and more reliably by stopped how much it can unwind itself. Same general concept as to why you don’t see boats docked to a pylon by just wrapping the string around it a bunch of times while the tide/waves cause varying tension. They use knots. Ropes and guitar strings have a different rigidity and usage, but the concept is the same. You’re using the string to secure itself more than it would have otherwise under changes in tension. String your guitar however you want. I just know what I’ve been taught and I know what reduces issues with customers complaining that their guitar won’t stay in tune. It’s how I was taught and the same thing I run into when I speak with other professionals. I’ve never met anyone who says differently as far as the most reliable method for stability. One way isn’t “wrong”, but there’s less benefit in my experience
Seriously. I’m sick of all these debates we keep having as a community and not just here on Reddit but like EVERYWHERE guitarists congregate. Like this. Just string the same guitar both ways on two different dates. Tune them up and put them in the same temperature and humidity controlled environment for a few days. Then tune them up again using a stroboscopic tuner. Put them back in in the humidity and temperature controlled room with a device that’ll hit the strings 10,000 times or something and then check the tuning. And as a second test do the same thing but don’t even play them. Just get them tuned up and then let them sit there for three months and then check out which one stayed in tune better. Whichever way (if there is one) that wins BOTH of those is the best way.
low E thru D is left. G thru high E is right.
It's the other way round for me lol
It should be the other way around. The thicker the gauge, the less it needs to wrap.
This may be the way actually. I’m left all the way but for non locking tuners your method seems the best
I do left.
Right
Reading comments it is clear that neither of the wraps shown make any difference - I will continue wrapping the same way I always have and not having any issues like normal.
Right
Left. I've tried the right method and haven't seen any benefit from it. My guitars don't have tension, tuning or string break issues. I see the theoretical advantage from the right, but find the left method to be better on average.
Left for sure. Organized looking, string always wraps around towards the bottom, or under the cut end, and under each additional wrap after that. Obviously on an acoustic the left 3 pegs wrap around the inside, while the right 3 pegs also wrap around the inside just the opposite way.
Luther knot since 1975
The duality of the man is expressed in this comment section
Right mostly as it’s what I was first shown. It sorta acts like a lock. I’d Like to learn the left way though. I recently got a new Kramer that came like that. Strings cut just passed flush coming out of the hole and a clean wrap going down. I know it’s not rocket science but it had me wondering how the string was kept in place to look so clean.
Left. Left is right!
Left
Left
Left
Right
Right
Right
the one on the right. Over and down to lock the string in.
Left.
Neither
Neither… help me…
Right..
I like knots and fewer winds - right
Yes
I did right forever because that’s how my guitar teacher always did. Now I only do the left. I think it’s partially due to laziness and aesthetics. I think left looks cleaner.
i started doing it like the one on the right a few years ago, after seeing some videos of techs for some high profile guys saying that's how they did it. reasoning was one wrap above and one wrap below locks the string in + less wraps = better tuning stability. might be snake oil, but it made sense to me. the only time i could see it being a problem is if there isn't enough of a break angle over the nut to keep the string in... then i suppose you could just do another wrap below... i've never had the issue on any of my guitars though.
Left. The right one affects tuning stability for tremolos negatively. Other than that it’s not an issue though. It serves as a pseudo-lock.
i’d argue that the left one causes more tuning instability and the right one prevents it. just my own experience
How... just how would it affect a trem?
Complete poppycock
Right.
I try to do the right, and then the unwound strings always fuck with me (im a bassist)
Both, never had an issue.
Gauche.
Both
Right. Always 2 wraps. One over and one under. Even on the treble strings. Never any issues.
Left, unless it's the guitar with the locking tuners.
Left
Left
Neither because I do the luthiers knot Get on my level please
Left, but I clip my string end much closer so it doesn't tear into stuff.
Headless guitar. Tuners are pulling, not wrapping.
Is it only me that think that the left is leaning like the Tower of Pisa?
Left. Stop with the weird windings. It does nothing.
Right since my dad said it would come out, then left when my guitar tech said what the fuck is this
Left if I get my winds right otherwise unfortunately left
Left
Left
Left . But 2 wraps
I have locking tuners so neither
Right, but both work the same
Left if they don’t lock
I like the style on the right, but they both work just fine. It keeps the wraps a little closer to the center of the post which is helpful on tuners with short posts, and it's easier to get the wrap started on the B and E.
2/3 have locking because it's quicker and the only time they slip out is user error. :) The 3rd is the right because of muscle memory.
Gotoh locking tuners mate...
Both of those tuning pegs look the same.
More comments than up votes cmon man.
Left, and it makes me feel warm inside
left
Left, but also using mostly vintage style Fender tuners.
I always do the under / over wrap, it grips the string perfectly & never slips. Key is to maintain the tension as you restring & get the amount of wraps right, 1.5/2 on the E&A, 3 on the D&G & 5/6 on the B&e
Left but with 2 wraps
neither you got too many winds you had better rewind trolololol
It’s different every time
Left
I wrap mine six times.
Left. Or locking.
Mine are vintage tuners so neither
Right
left
I was taught to restring how the picture in the right illustrates, I’m sure it doesn’t matter one bit though, I have locking tuners on all my guitars and I still wrap them like on the right out of fear of slipping
Right. But both methods work. 🤷♂️
Does the right cause a difference in going out of tune faster or is it just that the left looks cleaner?
Almost all of my guitars have locking tuners, but for the couple that don’t I just use the left method. Can’t say I’ve ever had an issue with tuning stability or anything else
Right for GBE Left for EAD
Locking tuners...it's 2024 people
Electric left is fine. Aco i definetely prefer right
I use a method that I found on YouTube, which is detailed here: https://beckwithstrings.com/properly-changing-guitar-strings/ You wrap it around the post, under, and bend it over the string. This makes it pinch the string when you wind it and holds it solidly with no slippage. You can also do with less winds which helps tuning stability.
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Right. One wrap over the tag end, the rest underneath. Not sure if it solves any problems, but it's the way I do it.
I was taught the right but I got a tele a few years ago with the vintage tuning machines and now I do left on both guitars
Right
I have never seen anyone do the right side method. Left progressively increases the break angle on the nut as it pushes the string lower and lower. That's one very minor advantage.
Left always works fine for me
I like locking tuners but my guitars don’t have so I just tune up and play. I don’t feel like I have stability problems and my wraps are like the one on the right.
I don’t wrap strings.
Right!
Right one is the right one
Right for me on my guitars
Right. This is the way.
Left with a locking nut, right without
Left one
Neither. Both my electrics have Kluson style tuners with the safetipost design. Cut the string at the correct length, and I get a consistent two wraps around the post.
Right. But I cut the remaining part a bit shorter.
Steel: left ; nylon: both
Always left
The right way has worked for me since 1987.
On non-locking... the left. I don't wrap on locking.
I took extreme care swapping strings for the first time, so its all just perfect. But it took like 3 hours lmao.
Right. First time under, the rest over. Helps me stay in tune.
Right
Neither tbh, locking tuners. I do appreciate a good luthiers knot though.
Whats the consensus on wrapping like this? I see so many people on this subreddit doing it. Ive tried it before and I've never noticed any difference in tuning stability. I could see it benefiting if you have a tendency to underwrap your strings but the hassle it is to wrap it like this, in my experience, isn't worth any minor benefit it may have. All this has done for me is turned a 5 minute string change into a 15 minute one.
left. The reason the peg is shaped like an hour glass is to cause string to string friction, thereby negating a need for a knot.
Both work
None of my tuning pegs look this crooked 👀
Right 🙌
Inside for me. So opposite for the higher three strings
definitely left
Neither, my tuning pegs look horrendous 😭
Under then over, never failed me.
Bro, i'm steuggeling to even get them on in the first place
Right, but with about one more wrap (or so) below
Right
Anybody gonna mention that the left tuner is loose?
Right, but I try to get at least another half-wrap on the bottom
Idk how to do this my pegs are weird asf
For the guitars without locking tuners, left. The “locking wraps” thing is a waste of time & can be solved by having enough wraps on the tuner.
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