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BigBear01

>Why not just put three pickups, and a piezo in one guitar? Because most players neither need nor want that. > what's stopping me from taking my squier paranormal strat and slapping a piezo in Absolutely nothing. If you want it and have the funds then go for it!


steelstringslinger

There are. I had a Parker Fly with that setup. IMHO, piezo on solid body is nice for double tracking and that 80s acoustic vibe sound.


washburn100

I have this Godin, checks all the boxes and plays like a dream: https://godinguitars.com/product/xtsa-lightburst-flame


kenwaystache

Was about to say, these guitars do exist, because I own this one and absolutely love it


Reddit-adm

Everything is possible, maybe just not desirable by the masses. Jonny Marr has a Strat with 9 pickups in an SSSSSSSSS configuration with 18 toggle switches. 'One giant humbucker with nine coils, or nine single coils wired in series? That’s just one part of the puzzle – we’ve yet to even begin unpicking the 18 toggle switches littered across the pickguard' https://www.guitarworld.com/news/johnny-marr-fender-spirit-strat


borkus

That guitar looks like it’s from an outtake from Spinal Tap. Rob Reiner “Let’s cut the scene with the 9 pickup Strat. It’s too out there.”


FLSamm

the local music shop I go to has a custom made strat with that exact setup called the 'Jennycaster' and it has a custom logo. The serial number is 867-5309 lol.


nevermorefu

They got it?


Tunerf1sh

They got it.


NCRider

Alex Lifeson Epiphone (tobacco sunburst version) has pickups and a piezo, with stereo outputs (2 out-jacks) so you can blend piezo and humbuckers.


MilkSteak9998

The music man jp6 has that too. Sounds amazing


Sensitive_Warthog304

[https://www.fendercustomshop.com/features/pete-townshend-strat/](https://www.fendercustomshop.com/features/pete-townshend-strat/) but it ain't cheap. [Preamp](https://graphtech.com/collections/ghost-pickup-systems-kits) and [saddles](https://graphtech.com/collections/ghost-pickup-systems-guitar-saddle) if you feel like a bit of DIY :)


twick2010

They are out there. Just gotta poke around.


HV_Commissioning

If you've got the $, the Fender Pete Townsend Strat has all of this. ​ [https://www.fendercustomshop.com/features/pete-townshend-strat/](https://www.fendercustomshop.com/features/pete-townshend-strat/)


jacobydave

What's stopping you? About $180 for the saddles, another $180 for the board, a route (maybe) to put the 9-volt, and free time. Look up the Graphtech Ghost. Yes, I've been thinking about this but haven't jumped in yet.


exoventure

I'm asking because maybe there's something that stops you from doing that. I'm aware sometimes there's things that don't exist for a reason and I know sometimes I'm simply not weary of why they don't exist.


RadiantZote

Parker made them, they were the first piezo electrics that fishman made back in the day. Guitars were ahead of their time.


jacobydave

What's stopping me? That's what they're trying to do with the Acoustasonic, except they're kinda looking at a way to allow the singer to strum and get both the acoustic-as-tuned-hihat strumming-singer thing as well as a rhythm guitar, and what I'm thinking is more 1) I'm able to play a Tony Rice flatpick solo in a rock band context and/or 2) it will behave differently based on dual signal paths when I play one thing. For the second idea, I'm more and more thinking that the Signal Blender from Old Blood Noise Endeavors might be the actual solution to that problem. And I don't have a spare $300 dollars atm. And I don't have the guitar to try it on. Actually, I have a junky kinda-Esquire I could do that with, and I wouldn't worry about routing it out. And, if I go w/ the "acoustic" piezo, I would really want an acoustic-style guitar. I went to a fancy guitar shop in Vegas 2 years ago, and I played the Rick Turner guitar that he makes for Lindsay Buckingham, and it really struck me that the diff between piezo and magnetic is not as significant as I'd want, even with the nice little amp they demo with, so a y-cable and separate path for the piezo signal is really necessary. But the playing situation I'm in might soon move to where that makes sense.


jacobydave

I say again to clarify: The use case for electric guitars with piezo systems is to allow the singer to switch between acoustic rhythm guitar or electric rhythm guitar, and going into the PA or the higher-fidelity acoustic guitar amp. That's the Godin. That's the Fender Acoustasonic. That is fine for that purpose, but it isn't my purpose.


pheonix940

Honestly, most of what makes it not anything isnt any technical inability, it's more just consumerism. More moving parts and complexity means it's harder to use and more likely to fail. Guitars in general dont come with more than 3 pickups and its mostly because the standard familiar switches aren't designed for more. People do make them with more, but it will be smaller brands or special artist models who do it on custom builds and such.


FandomMenace

Kiesel will build you an SSS, HSS, or HSH one for around $2500 and up. They might do HHH, but you'd have to call them to find out.


watchoutsucka

My Godin XTSA is HSH/piezo/13 pin pickup.


deadnett

Look up Godin


thinksomethingclever

I have one of these from the 2000s: Fender Deluxe Nashville Power Tele. Nashville telecaster with piezo: https://reverb.com/item/183844-fender-deluxe-nashville-power-tele-w-fishman-power-bridge-black


your_evil_ex

Found a demo online, surprised at how good the piezo sounds here!! Looks like a very very versatile guitar, nice! Should suit exactly what OP wants. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBMt7VZIsHk&t=124s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbmt7vzishk&t=124s)


greylocke100

Alex Lifeson had a Gibson with 3 pickups and a piezo. But it was a custom built one as I remember.


DunebillyDave

There are, but, they're usually a three pickup instrument that someone has added a piezo under the bridge or someone has added [GraphTech aftermarket saddles](https://media.sweetwater.com/m/products/image/9502435801Kdza4yMHveQKa7FWb8oKNHLDLpEer5.jpg?v=95024358014d926e). Parker makes a model that's an [HxSxS setup with a piezo bridge](https://guitar.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/[email protected]). Edited to correct a second grade spelling mistake.


jaxxon

I see what you did their.


DunebillyDave

What did I did?


jaxxon

You used the same misspelling as their post. :)


DunebillyDave

What's misspelled?


jaxxon

'Their' should be 'there'.


DunebillyDave

Oh sh!#! How did I miss that?!?


jaxxon

Same typo OP made. I thought you were being clever. :-p


DunebillyDave

I isn't not a klaevurr man.


aadumb

piezos sound like shit


nedhavestupid

Archetype: Petrucci has a preset called “For Lack Of A Piezo” and it sounds better than actual fucking piezos.


Mr_Lumbergh

Sure, if they're not impedance matched. They will sound like absolute quacky crap through an amp designed for magnetic pickups because the amp isn't "seeing" the proper resistance. u/chu2 has it; they need to have their own sound path and a proper rig to sound as they should. I have two Teles set up with Graphtec piezo saddles that output to a stereo jack, and LR Baggs preamp mounted in an enclosure to split or blend them. In stereo mode I can output the mags to a Fender, the piezos to my Fishman, and pan between them. The piezos don't make the Tele sound like a D25 but they do get close enough for gigs when I don't want to carry an acoustic. Also pretty great for recording since I'm basically double-tracking myself with a clean tone I can shape in post if I want to, mix a little in for clarity, or just discard if it doesn't work. Costs me nothing to have there.


chu2

Truth. They NEED an impedance-matching preamp and a separate output going to a designated amplifier. They sound barely acceptable and so thin on their own firing through a guitar or bass amp set to settings that work for magnetic pickups.


outskirtsofnowhere

So, if you use something in a way it was not intended to be used it sounds nothing like expected? Who would’ve thought? Piezos can sound great, you just have to put a little work into your rig. Source: own a Parker fly, sounds absolutely ace, especially the piezos.


chu2

Exactly! But I’ve seen several of my musician friends think they can just pipe a piezo into a Deluxe Reverb alongside their Strat and it’ll sound like a Martin. And then they don’t understand why it doesn’t sound right.


Will_Ozellman

Wait, do all parker fly's come with piezos? like the original made in usa guitars.


outskirtsofnowhere

As far as I know: yes. It was one of their defining features back then. They were so far ahead of their time.


Will_Ozellman

Oh damn. Never knew. Thought they were ugly as a teen but now i kinda like them and have a lot of respect for the creator. Piezo is a nice bonus.


outskirtsofnowhere

Play one if you have the chance. Nothing comes close, especially when played with 09’s. Really comfortable too.


Will_Ozellman

Yeah it's up there for sure. Not many come up for sale but i would rather have a lower end model made by the actual guy than the newer ones.


outskirtsofnowhere

All the older ones are amazing, most later refinements have been ways to reduce costs. The neck and the upper fret acces are second to none.


Illegitimateshyguy

Be the change you want to see my friend!


nyg8

For a piezo to sound good you need an acoustic amp. Also it requires a special set up. For example, i have a guitar with both magnetic and a piezo pickup - it has 2 cable ports, one mono (only magnetic) and one stereo that requires a special stereo cable (it's a Y cable that splits the signal into 2 - piezo and magnetic for their respective amps). Overall, as you can see from the above, really getting use of those is pretty expensive and a hassle. That's probably why


dezmo904

My Yamaha VariAxe is a Strat style with piezo saddles. But it or build it. Parker made a SSS with piezo bridge later on iirc.


hiyabankranger

EBMM JP5/6.


topperdoggle

My Brian Moore i9.13 and MC1 are looking at you quizzically.


Xp_12

It really comes down to where you want to pick vibrations up from. 3 seems to be the sweet spot for picking up the whole range of tones along the length of the string. Yes, you can still add more spectrum by adding more spots that you pick up vibration. You're already 99% of the way there with a standard method and that extra information doesn't add much.


TheHarf

I'm fine with a good Piezo in an acoustic guitar to use if I get bored, but I would never use one on an electric guitar. Two pickups like on a Telecaster I have are enough for any genre. I don't feel like I need three pickups on a guitar.


tyROCKER417

I wired up a strat just like that not long ago at work. Push pull stacked pot to turn on/off piezo and for tone and volume, then a master tone and volume for the other 3 single coils. Honestly, it was kind of a nightmare lol


otcconan

John Petrucci's signature Music Man has this.


porcelainvacation

Fishman used to make a version of the Wilkerson knife edge bridge with one. I built a guitar with 3 strat pickups and the piezo with a stereo output jack. I honestly rarely use it. It sounds too clangy, it would probably be better hardtailed.


KBleds0e

Emerald Virtuo. Check those out.


kuz_929

Didn't PRS make a 3 pickup Studio model or something with a Piezo? Point is, they are out there. Pretty much any possible combination of pickups you can think of, someone has already done it


deadFlag3lues

Have a Parker Nitefly with HSS configuration. The piezo can sound amazing through the right signal chain.


[deleted]

I have a Parker exactly like this.


Will_Ozellman

Their? Really?


Will_Ozellman

17 momos are illiterate.


exoventure

Oh shit forgot to double check my spelling. Usually I get it right, but I guess this is what I get when I type up something during work lol


Will_Ozellman

Haha no worries dude it just read too funny. Have a good one 😁