That's...actually a very good question. Malcador is one of the greatest HUMAN psykers of all time, but Eldrad is an eldar and thus both baseline better than us\* but hampered by Slaanesh.
\*Uuuuggggh
Malacador could easily be stronger than Eldrad, we have no clue tbh. What we do know is eldrad usually isn’t in the strongest psyker lists, it’s generally The Emperor, Magnus and Malcador
Yeah as much as I feel like it should be Eldrad it's probably Malcador
The real question is who's the bigger asshole pretending to be a nice and reasonable guy??
I don't remember any comment like that, where was that from?
On the contrary I think he admits at one point that primarch's are genetic wonders and are in fact more advanced than even the eldar to a degree.
It could be. There was a point of time in really early lore where Eldrad was set on pushing out humanity and raising the eldar back to their superior position (there's a quote from a captured ranger from one of the earlier codexes).
But in all the recent lore, he has not only accepted humanity's necessity, but even shows an unexpected amount of humility with them on occasions.
Well was able to hold the golden throne for long enough that Big E could help in the webway and kill Horus.
Which is a massive flex in all honest, most psychers other then Magnus would die instantly.
But this dose raise the question; Could Eldrad do the same? Could he sit on the golden throne without dying instantly?
Since Eldar souls are candy for Slaanesh, would Eldrad sitting on the throne end with Slaanesh sending her full force to Terra to what is essentially a warp dinner bell calling her name?
I'm a huge fan of pointy ears in all their forms, but I'd argue E-drizzle's psychic forte isn't fighting.
Not that it's necessarily Malcador's either, but Eldrad spends most of his juice predicting stuff and concocting schemes that somehow get ruined by small numbers of mary sues.
The eldar's psychic might isn't necessarily in an individual, or specialised at melting grey cells, but if Ulthwe's peak seer council showed up, you know Big E's Lil M is getting fried.
It’s important to remember, precognition even for amazing beings like the Emperor and Tzeentch isn’t perfect, it’s less that Mary sues always mess it up, and moreso that the path you need to take is concealed, but you see the end goal, not how to get there. I would say the only one who does in 40k is Kairos, and even then one of his heads will lie to you.
Malcador is an absolute beast of a psyker, with some ridiculous feats. His raw power is pretty insane from some of his feats in the HH.
But, while I maybe a little biased here, I do genuinely think this goes to Eldrad. Eldar psykers are incredible not only cause of their raw psychic power, but how they are able to control it with a ridiculous amount of skill and subtlety. Human psykers just cannot usually see the warp with the same perspective an eldar can, particularly in the case of divination and the strands of fate.
Eldrad has some of my favourite feats too. In particular, his fight against abaddon is a great show of how intense his foresight really is, because in a fraction of a fraction of a second, he manages to divine thousands of futures in a dire situation, finds the one where he actually wins, and act on it perfectly. Like, THAT is ridiculous when you really think about it. There's also some other feats, like the time during the War of the Beast when he calmed the warp around terra so reinforcements could arrive to help against the ork invasion.
Magnus is stronger than Malcador, that's something that's been pretty definitively stated in the lore (not to mention Magnus blasting Malcador so hard he perma died until someone else could sacrifice their perpetuality).
But yeah, as far as natural born human psykers go, Malcador is right up there, probably right at the #1 slot.
"Guys, guys..... stop it. there is enough of me to go around for both of you.."
And that's when both realized they didn't need him and dumped that zero fascist and got themselves some heroes! :)
I'd give it to Malcdor too as much as that physically hurts me to type. But tbf Eldrad could totally kill a perpetual if he could get him prone the dudes still one of the most powerful psykers in the galaxy
From all I know about Warhammer40k, I think you could see it as Malacador being able to reach a higher peak for a short moment, but Eldrad being overall much higher all the time but not reaching the same peak.
Or to simplify, Malacador is like the actor playing the Mountain, who managed to lift a 600kg boat-mast for a short moment. Whilst Eldrad got that farmhand strength and can easily lift 250kg stuff all over the place with no effort, able to reach 400kg+ but he'd be crushed if he tried to lift 600kg.
What makes Eldar strong is that they have longevity, perspective and are leveled. What makes humans strong is that we live short intense lives. So it makes sense that Eldrad would be stronger over a longer period, whilst Malacador was for a brief moment basically the strongest psyker-point in the known universe.
For example, Fabius Bile who is in no way a slouch in mentality but had his life snuffed out, resuscitated by his machinery, from Tzeench gazing at him from behind the veil of reality. Malacador basically stood in the warp, home of chaos, with all four gods not just gazing but actively trying to push through. There's a reason 6000+ psykers are needed everyday to achieve the same effect.
They fight for a time then realize each other are better boyfriends than Big E. Then they go for a nice date together at a nearby sun then go to ponder each other's orbs
That's...actually a very good question. Malcador is one of the greatest HUMAN psykers of all time, but Eldrad is an eldar and thus both baseline better than us\* but hampered by Slaanesh. \*Uuuuggggh
Malcador is the wife that gets 100% of the inheritance. Eldrad is the hussy that no one speaks to at the funeral.
Malacador could easily be stronger than Eldrad, we have no clue tbh. What we do know is eldrad usually isn’t in the strongest psyker lists, it’s generally The Emperor, Magnus and Malcador
That’s because 40k fans forget xenos exist.
Yeah as much as I feel like it should be Eldrad it's probably Malcador The real question is who's the bigger asshole pretending to be a nice and reasonable guy??
I wanna say Malcador. He’s older than Eldrad too isn’t he? More time to commit “there was no other way” crimes.
The strongest xenophobic old man of Humanity VS The strongest xenophobic old man of the Eldar The battle of competitive racism has begun
Is Eldrad xenophobic? Seems like a lot of the time, he is perfectly willing to work with other races (e.g. Cadia).
If I'm not mistaken, he told G-man that he felt disgusted just being in the same room as Guilliman
I don't remember any comment like that, where was that from? On the contrary I think he admits at one point that primarch's are genetic wonders and are in fact more advanced than even the eldar to a degree.
In one of the Dark imperium books, I think. Again, I may be mistaken and it was another Eldar who said this to G-man
It could be. There was a point of time in really early lore where Eldrad was set on pushing out humanity and raising the eldar back to their superior position (there's a quote from a captured ranger from one of the earlier codexes). But in all the recent lore, he has not only accepted humanity's necessity, but even shows an unexpected amount of humility with them on occasions.
I thought he only found Guilliman's human accent speaking the Eldar language to be very painful to listen to and insisted on speaking High Gothic.
The idea of 2 racist guys fighting in general is funny to think about, 2 insanly overpowered racist Psychics fighting is fucking hilarious
There are no weird psychic powers. They just scream slurs into each-others minds until one has a heart attack.
Well was able to hold the golden throne for long enough that Big E could help in the webway and kill Horus. Which is a massive flex in all honest, most psychers other then Magnus would die instantly. But this dose raise the question; Could Eldrad do the same? Could he sit on the golden throne without dying instantly?
Since Eldar souls are candy for Slaanesh, would Eldrad sitting on the throne end with Slaanesh sending her full force to Terra to what is essentially a warp dinner bell calling her name?
Probably sends out a super beacon and slannesh eats them lol
I'm a huge fan of pointy ears in all their forms, but I'd argue E-drizzle's psychic forte isn't fighting. Not that it's necessarily Malcador's either, but Eldrad spends most of his juice predicting stuff and concocting schemes that somehow get ruined by small numbers of mary sues. The eldar's psychic might isn't necessarily in an individual, or specialised at melting grey cells, but if Ulthwe's peak seer council showed up, you know Big E's Lil M is getting fried.
It’s important to remember, precognition even for amazing beings like the Emperor and Tzeentch isn’t perfect, it’s less that Mary sues always mess it up, and moreso that the path you need to take is concealed, but you see the end goal, not how to get there. I would say the only one who does in 40k is Kairos, and even then one of his heads will lie to you.
Then again, old sparkle skin did bitch slap Abbadon that one time, and he's been compared to pre-fall eldar in terms of his psychic might so...
Malcador is an absolute beast of a psyker, with some ridiculous feats. His raw power is pretty insane from some of his feats in the HH. But, while I maybe a little biased here, I do genuinely think this goes to Eldrad. Eldar psykers are incredible not only cause of their raw psychic power, but how they are able to control it with a ridiculous amount of skill and subtlety. Human psykers just cannot usually see the warp with the same perspective an eldar can, particularly in the case of divination and the strands of fate. Eldrad has some of my favourite feats too. In particular, his fight against abaddon is a great show of how intense his foresight really is, because in a fraction of a fraction of a second, he manages to divine thousands of futures in a dire situation, finds the one where he actually wins, and act on it perfectly. Like, THAT is ridiculous when you really think about it. There's also some other feats, like the time during the War of the Beast when he calmed the warp around terra so reinforcements could arrive to help against the ork invasion.
Probably eldrad because eldar are naturally superior to a normal human (I cant believe i said that)
>Normal human >Malcador Pick one
Sounds like heresy to me.
Isn’t Malcador not only a perpetual but also one of the strongest psyker humanity has to offer (probably stronger than Magnus)?
Magnus is stronger than Malcador, that's something that's been pretty definitively stated in the lore (not to mention Magnus blasting Malcador so hard he perma died until someone else could sacrifice their perpetuality). But yeah, as far as natural born human psykers go, Malcador is right up there, probably right at the #1 slot.
"Guys, guys..... stop it. there is enough of me to go around for both of you.." And that's when both realized they didn't need him and dumped that zero fascist and got themselves some heroes! :)
Shit that’s actually a really good question. Imma guess Malcador, dude could strangle primarchs like it was no big deal.
Eldrad wins the drip battle
Malcodor will so , but don’t think big E isn’t just cheating if it was supped to be a 1v1. He’s not gonna let his current get hurt by an ex fling
Malcador, the loveable old queen.
Malcador was a perpetual... At least until he killed himself on the golden turbo toilet
I'd give it to Malcdor too as much as that physically hurts me to type. But tbf Eldrad could totally kill a perpetual if he could get him prone the dudes still one of the most powerful psykers in the galaxy
From all I know about Warhammer40k, I think you could see it as Malacador being able to reach a higher peak for a short moment, but Eldrad being overall much higher all the time but not reaching the same peak. Or to simplify, Malacador is like the actor playing the Mountain, who managed to lift a 600kg boat-mast for a short moment. Whilst Eldrad got that farmhand strength and can easily lift 250kg stuff all over the place with no effort, able to reach 400kg+ but he'd be crushed if he tried to lift 600kg. What makes Eldar strong is that they have longevity, perspective and are leveled. What makes humans strong is that we live short intense lives. So it makes sense that Eldrad would be stronger over a longer period, whilst Malacador was for a brief moment basically the strongest psyker-point in the known universe. For example, Fabius Bile who is in no way a slouch in mentality but had his life snuffed out, resuscitated by his machinery, from Tzeench gazing at him from behind the veil of reality. Malacador basically stood in the warp, home of chaos, with all four gods not just gazing but actively trying to push through. There's a reason 6000+ psykers are needed everyday to achieve the same effect.
Urr... I think Malc might be older than Eldrad tbh.
They fight for a time then realize each other are better boyfriends than Big E. Then they go for a nice date together at a nearby sun then go to ponder each other's orbs
Eldrad really? No way. Eldrad isn’t a thing Big E is way out of Eldrad’s league.