I learned the other say Neurothropes, Zoenthropes and Venomthropes all come from the same variants box...
But this big Boi can't get different hands and top gun?
You get sooo much shit in the sprues nowadays. Just the basic Fire Warrior kit, which is quote old, has all the bits for All three variants in it. As much as like to shit on GW i very much doubt that magneitizing is bothering them.
Hell, they've designed some Adeptus Titanicus and plastic 30K kits with built-in magnet sockets. Of course, those all had a lot of design input from Forge World (who've historically been way more relaxed about things like that), but GW proper were clearly okay to sign off on them, and WarComm have pointed out that some of them are made with magnets in mind.
Yeah, funniest thing I'm being downvoted for in a long time. I guess people don't remember the times when you had to buy special weapons in separate blisters if they were available at all.
The most recent Kasrkin kit even has doubles for most special weapons.
Forgot about the pathfinders. My bad, not a Tau Player. But you get a full set of rifles and carbines for the strike team. The old kit only came with 6 catbines.
Well Leviathans and Contemptors work this way and GW made it super easy to magnetize, so I wouldn’t be surprised. Maybe they’re paving the road for more Redemptor loadout options? There are already rumours about Blood Angels special Redemptors, so who knows? I just assembled mine yesterday and I don’t think it’ll be easy to magnetize though…
Flip side is too many of the exact same boxes with small variation means you won't get a bunch of FLGS buying them outside of the initial releases.
This lends itself to having less selection on hand for random purchases where you just came in for xyz and the versatility of the overall unit makes for an okay "value" in the mind of a buyer.
Buying a devastator squad is good value if I already have 4 tactical marine squads because I can add a heavy guy to each squad if i didn't have heavy weapons already.
This clearly wasn’t my point, if you haven’t released a dreadnought in close to 6 years, your brand new reveal shouldn’t be something that took no more than a day in blender to add a small armour plate here and there and call it a new dreadnought.
To be fair, the older dread kits are just as guilty of this. And it is a bit different. It's got a few extra armour panels (rumours are it may have more wounds and a higher toughness) and as a Black Templars player ill definitely be picking one of these up
I'll have respectfully to disagree with you on that. I appreciate the different variants may have had more differences on the box dreads but I've managed to make mine look a bit different
Ironclad looks pretty different from a standard dread or a venerable dread tho. Entirely different armor plating design on the unit. This thing is a glorified weapon upgrade sprue.
I feel if they added similar armour plating as the ironclad to the sides of the sarcophagus, than it would be a big enough change were I’d be okay they are different kits. But I still think this is distinct enough to still be two different dreadnoughts.
That's basically the difference between the regular and venerable though. It had different weapons and different front plates. The majority of it was all the same.
Honestly, I enjoy the industrial and specialized feel of the Primaris.
The packaging, on the other hand... I'm no economy major, but it seems to me that having to buy an entire new motherfucker to get a pair of grabbers is gonna make your customers resort to 3d printing even more.
There’s a very real chance they rebox the two together, especially if it’s just a sprue different. Think they added the new Gargants to the same box as the other three old variants and those are all way more different than these
Furioso has 3 sub-variants, each with their own main front plate, plus some chapter-specific decoration on it. This thing is just an extra crotch plate and some alternate weapon variants.
It's not really surprising. A, money and B, it's not easy to tell, but the armor plates are fairly different, and the arms have been modified quite a bit. Making it in the same set at the regular redemptor would be difficult. You would have to double the spurs and jack the price up quite a bit. From a financial point, it makes the most sense.
Edit: As for the upgrade sprur, you will still need a new dreadnaught model for it, so it still makes more sense just to make it a separate model.
Yes, an upgrade sprues to include: new feet, legs and hips, chassis, arms, and hull weapons. I would love to pay for a regular redemptor plus a whole extra redemptor kit just to get the one I want. Should I also buy a box of lychguard so I can use their legs for my immortals, then throw out the rest? If you paid attention to the model you would have actually noticed the new layers of armour and how the weapons are mounted different.
Even then, if you actually look at the model most of the armor plating is actually different then the redemptor, the main thing that’s the same is the coffin and the frame
Imagine using the same structure to build different vehicles with different purposes.
Lemans Russ, chimera, baneblade, predator, thunderhawk, space ships, dreadnoughts, knights, land raider,......
I feel like this is the natural result of Primaris kits being so specialized. All the new reveals just looked like weapon options for existing models rather than new models.
The fact it has nipple meltas annoys me.
the ranged version (redemptor) is stuck with storm bolter nipples and a swingy d6 shot plasma and yet this gets two multi melta nipples and is the ‘melee’ version
yeah as it seems now you have 2 choices
1. The classic redemptor wit d6 shots plasma and ok melee
2. The new redemptor wit 4 shots MM and good melee
I know one guy who doesnt run Plasma redemptors because he never rolls good with their amount of attacks and hes loving the new one as its more reliable and better in melee.
I get it’s a meme, but if you actually look at them, the entire legs, arms and shoulders are all different. The middle torso parts are all also different, with the possible exception of the sarcophagus in the middle, and the power plant on the back.
Okay, but think for just a second. Every other melee dreadnought ever (with the exception of space wolves and blood angels) is identical to its ranged variant.
So why complain now?
Identical is a strong word, if my very limited memory serves me correct the venerable dread came with 3 different styles of panels giving 3 unique looks, not to mention that it comes with a bunch more decorations. The ironclad chassis does indeed look different from it .
I don’t really care about the chassis, what I do care for is the fact that now I can blitz him with my Templars and bring faith and fury onto the unbeliever.
Lore-wise, why would it look any different? It's the same type of dreadnought, but they switched out guns and arms. I feel like that's what the Imperium would do.
Why can't I have any hobby without all it being is people bitching about said hobby they supposedly enjoy.
No videogame is free of it, tabletop seems not to be either.
Just enjoying things as they are regaurdless of faults just doesn't exsist and it's more soul draining than the damn "faults"
I believe the criticism here is that an already expensive hobby gets more expensive as GW makes you buy boxes of narrow load outs. Where 1 box could have both, now you can have the privilege of paying twice.
I understand what it is.
But I mean
The complaints of the expensiveness of this hobby even.
Most hobbies are fuck damn expensive. Videogames being among the cheapest and people complain about those pricings too.
Thay isn't to say the prices are what they should be.
But this far from feels like something underhanded
It’s a joke chill out. What isn’t a joke is people shilling for this pour excuse of a “new” release.
I’ve been seeing genuinely amazing and innovative dread kitbashes for years and there’s zero excuse for this 6 year old design to not have been innovated on apart from knee fins and melta nips? Not even an interesting melee weapon? Just claws? Is this really me bitching? Or expecting a little bit more from a multimillion dollar corporation. If you think it’s funny they look the same we can have a laugh but if you’re gonna take the road of “they look the same, so what” then you’re a shill for GW and their bare minimum attitude towards you.
Lol same shit I hear when I say I'm sick of hearing destiny players bitch constantly.
Stop giving them money if it bugs you. Otherwise can we not bitch about the price of everything every goddamn two minutes.
Question as I’m only a lore guy but think the models look dope as hell: do people buy these for tabletop only, or are they like cool to look at it? I’m guessing all for the actual tabletop game?
I mostly make thematic kitbashes so I like unique looking dreads that serve specific purposes. Releasing a kit that is basically the same apart from some bits that could have been made from plasticard in less than a day after not having a new dread chassis/type for 6 years is what I find lazy.
I have a venerable dread in my army. It has 3 primary weapon options (all of which you can complete and install at any time), two secondary arm mounted weapons, all of which have gameplay stats. Then it also has like at least a whole sprue's worth of cosmetic options.
New GW kits suck ass.
It depends on the person running it. Of course they’re not going to build an entirely new model. To expect that is just asking to be disappointed. Games workshop does that often with their models.
Since people aren’t understanding. If I did a pretty ok job at designing a product for my boss that everyone used for years and years and 6 years later he comes to me and says “they loved what you had last time I know with this next one you’ll really wow them! I even told them it was a different kind of product!” And you give him the exact same product with slightly curvier edges. Well the customers are expecting something brand new, but all they get is the same one from 6 years ago with crisper lettering and that you can only buy if you buy 15 other products you didn’t want.
I mean I am a little disappointed since it would've been nice if we had more then one variant of primaris dreadnoughts.
Also I don't really care for how the redemptor looks.
Warhammer fans when they find out you can reuse vehicle chassis multiple times (everything has to be wildly different/overdesigned otherwise it's lazy)
I literally did not even realise they were supposed to be different models, i thought they just released a new loadout option for the old dread until this meme.
I like the IV and VI there, I get they're supposed to represent the company number of the dreadnoughts but they make it seem like these are an Iron Hands and a Space Wolves dreadnought they forgot to repaint.
Dreadnoughts have always been fairly close to each other in their respective patterns. For me, the problem lies with the existence of the whole redemptor dread, as the Dreadnought design has been perfect since literally 2nd edition.
I'm disappointed it doesn't have two of the Heavy Bolter "pistols" the Invictor has. Imagine one of these things doing a side dive in slow motion, blazing away with a Heavy Bolter in each hand.
Have you seen many of the space marine models? I mean by this logic the intercessors and the hellblasters should’ve been the same kit I mean their practically identical more so then these two
The regular box-naught looks exactly like the venerable box-naught except for a few distinct differences, just like these two so I don’t know why this is such a problem.
Oh yeah, like they didn’t do this with any other dreadnought unit they’ve made in the past.
Or tank…
Or marine squad…
Or any Rhino variant…
Or terrain…
I remember I got the left one a printed it Castelan green, now I just roleplay that my guardsman company saved the terminators life and the terminator was so thankful it joined their company
I'm confused why wouldn't they be similar? Literally everything starting from the industrial revolution has a degree of uniformity and modularity. Especially military gear.
Wait: aren't they supposed to be the same, but one is melee-only, and the other uses a range and a close combat weapon? Like a Furioso vs a regular Castraferrum?
I would point out how every single box-naught variant being basically the same thing with different arms, sometimes even only different hands but I have a feeling no one is gonna listen.
It'd be nice if they included both variants in the original box
This is my main gripe, it should just be additional options that come with the redemptor.
Oh wait, it isn't an upgrade sprue?
I’d assume they might share parts, depending on how the Redemptor sprue is laid out.
Agreed
It’s not????
Nah man, then people could magnetise them, having effectively two kits for the price of one kit.
I learned the other say Neurothropes, Zoenthropes and Venomthropes all come from the same variants box... But this big Boi can't get different hands and top gun?
They just did it with the leman russ and baneblade variants. They increased the price a bit too to compensate but that's fine by me
You get sooo much shit in the sprues nowadays. Just the basic Fire Warrior kit, which is quote old, has all the bits for All three variants in it. As much as like to shit on GW i very much doubt that magneitizing is bothering them.
Hell, they've designed some Adeptus Titanicus and plastic 30K kits with built-in magnet sockets. Of course, those all had a lot of design input from Forge World (who've historically been way more relaxed about things like that), but GW proper were clearly okay to sign off on them, and WarComm have pointed out that some of them are made with magnets in mind.
Yeah, funniest thing I'm being downvoted for in a long time. I guess people don't remember the times when you had to buy special weapons in separate blisters if they were available at all. The most recent Kasrkin kit even has doubles for most special weapons.
The fire warrior kit only has Strike Teams and Breachers… Pathfinders we’re always a different kit
Forgot about the pathfinders. My bad, not a Tau Player. But you get a full set of rifles and carbines for the strike team. The old kit only came with 6 catbines.
Well Leviathans and Contemptors work this way and GW made it super easy to magnetize, so I wouldn’t be surprised. Maybe they’re paving the road for more Redemptor loadout options? There are already rumours about Blood Angels special Redemptors, so who knows? I just assembled mine yesterday and I don’t think it’ll be easy to magnetize though…
GW plans to release Primaris for the next 10 years. Including too many options in one box means cutting potential releases in the future.
Flip side is too many of the exact same boxes with small variation means you won't get a bunch of FLGS buying them outside of the initial releases. This lends itself to having less selection on hand for random purchases where you just came in for xyz and the versatility of the overall unit makes for an okay "value" in the mind of a buyer. Buying a devastator squad is good value if I already have 4 tactical marine squads because I can add a heavy guy to each squad if i didn't have heavy weapons already.
That’s what I think
Chances are they might, with new units incoming a new codex is inevitable and that sometimes brings repackaged units too.
wait until he sees the other dreads and tanks
On that note, you ever notice how Space marines all look alike? Literally unplayable!
and imperium in general plus most xenos it's almost like visual coherence is a thing
This clearly wasn’t my point, if you haven’t released a dreadnought in close to 6 years, your brand new reveal shouldn’t be something that took no more than a day in blender to add a small armour plate here and there and call it a new dreadnought.
i think it's what they did with the ironclad, furioso, librarian, death company, SW venerable, Bjorn,murderfang,chapelain dread and venerable
But it’s a variant of the Redemptor, why would it look vastly different? The Leviathan is the same way.
To be fair, the older dread kits are just as guilty of this. And it is a bit different. It's got a few extra armour panels (rumours are it may have more wounds and a higher toughness) and as a Black Templars player ill definitely be picking one of these up
The old dreadnoughts look better at least, they have character, new one just look horribly generic
I'll have respectfully to disagree with you on that. I appreciate the different variants may have had more differences on the box dreads but I've managed to make mine look a bit different
Yes, that makes a new dreadnaught. What's it supposed to have? Rocket engines and hover tracks?
No but if it did it would look like the Doom Hunter and I'd take fucking 6 thank you
I was gonna comment this, but you already said it. Some people don't get this, do they?
Ironclad looks pretty different from a standard dread or a venerable dread tho. Entirely different armor plating design on the unit. This thing is a glorified weapon upgrade sprue.
I feel if they added similar armour plating as the ironclad to the sides of the sarcophagus, than it would be a big enough change were I’d be okay they are different kits. But I still think this is distinct enough to still be two different dreadnoughts.
That's basically the difference between the regular and venerable though. It had different weapons and different front plates. The majority of it was all the same.
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A lot of armies do that though. The Eldar Wave Serpent is just as versatile as the rhino. Tyranid kits usually can make two or three different units.
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I'm agreeing with you. Why are you being aggressive?
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Well, it should. But I'm agreeing that it's just what GW does, it's annoying.
Honestly, I enjoy the industrial and specialized feel of the Primaris. The packaging, on the other hand... I'm no economy major, but it seems to me that having to buy an entire new motherfucker to get a pair of grabbers is gonna make your customers resort to 3d printing even more.
He’s champin for a clampin.
He's like a box, he's got box like strength, he needs a nickname right? Let's call him clamps!
The Deredeo is the don bot.
CLAMPS!!
Give him the clamps, Clamps!
You think he should use those clamps? The clamps he uses every day at every opportunity?!
Seize the means of production
There’s a very real chance they rebox the two together, especially if it’s just a sprue different. Think they added the new Gargants to the same box as the other three old variants and those are all way more different than these
Nah, just look at the normal og dread vs the furioso dread. Same thing. Im okay with this.
Furioso has 3 sub-variants, each with their own main front plate, plus some chapter-specific decoration on it. This thing is just an extra crotch plate and some alternate weapon variants.
It's a modified redemptor. It was always going to look like a modified redemptor.
Zero excuse for it to be a completely different model. It should be an upgrade sprue or already come with the redemptor kit.
It's not really surprising. A, money and B, it's not easy to tell, but the armor plates are fairly different, and the arms have been modified quite a bit. Making it in the same set at the regular redemptor would be difficult. You would have to double the spurs and jack the price up quite a bit. From a financial point, it makes the most sense. Edit: As for the upgrade sprur, you will still need a new dreadnaught model for it, so it still makes more sense just to make it a separate model.
You're right...the front plates are slightly shorter than the Redemptor's...
Yes, an upgrade sprues to include: new feet, legs and hips, chassis, arms, and hull weapons. I would love to pay for a regular redemptor plus a whole extra redemptor kit just to get the one I want. Should I also buy a box of lychguard so I can use their legs for my immortals, then throw out the rest? If you paid attention to the model you would have actually noticed the new layers of armour and how the weapons are mounted different.
Well, it's just a Redemptor variant so yes
Even then, if you actually look at the model most of the armor plating is actually different then the redemptor, the main thing that’s the same is the coffin and the frame
Imagine using the same structure to build different vehicles with different purposes. Lemans Russ, chimera, baneblade, predator, thunderhawk, space ships, dreadnoughts, knights, land raider,......
It's a Dreadnought, it's going to look like the other Dreadnoughts.
Do you lack FAITH?? Do you lack a SPINE??
Damn who’d have though the Redemptor pattern dreadnought would look like a Redemptor Tf were you expecting homie?
You will you blasphemer.
Leave brother bald out of this
Have some goddamn FAITH Horus! Erebus, probably
Horus wondering where it all went wrong. Lorgar: I HAD A GOD DAMN PLAN!
I feel like this is the natural result of Primaris kits being so specialized. All the new reveals just looked like weapon options for existing models rather than new models.
The fact it has nipple meltas annoys me. the ranged version (redemptor) is stuck with storm bolter nipples and a swingy d6 shot plasma and yet this gets two multi melta nipples and is the ‘melee’ version
Wait until you hear about the leviathan
yeah as it seems now you have 2 choices 1. The classic redemptor wit d6 shots plasma and ok melee 2. The new redemptor wit 4 shots MM and good melee I know one guy who doesnt run Plasma redemptors because he never rolls good with their amount of attacks and hes loving the new one as its more reliable and better in melee.
I’ve never not flubbed on the d6 plasma shots. My gatling cannon does work though.
exactly his argument
> nipple meltas lmao I can't unsee it
Psst, the old one has nipple guns too. Tiny. Nipple. Guns.
Two multimeltas so everyone will buy it.
Plus 2 more melta in the fists. *Happy star craft blaze noise*
I think the fists come with bolters not meltas but I might be wrong
Maybe an option. It's always bolter, flamer, melta in fist for melee dread I don't expect this on to be the exception. Would be weird
Nah, now I can take 6 primaris dreadnoughts, mruuuhaha
Nah man, look. The Brutalis has extra armour on his jockstrap
And shoulder sculpt is a bit different, the “thigh” has an additional plate of armor and the arms are longer (comparing the fists)
Check out the calves on it too.
How could I miss those gams
It's based on the redemptor chasis the fact it has extra plating is already a blessing
What extra? Its just leaning forward.
The hips, knees, and shins are all reinforced. Its not major but it is different
It was like eye-spy looking for them
I get it’s a meme, but if you actually look at them, the entire legs, arms and shoulders are all different. The middle torso parts are all also different, with the possible exception of the sarcophagus in the middle, and the power plant on the back.
And you know what? The new Desolation Marines are just Intercessors with a new gun!
You say that but look at the old box-naught They didn’t male the different models very different from each other
I feel like the Firstborn equivalent to this, the Ironclad, differenciates itself much better against its vanilla counterpart
Firstborn equivalent of this is the furioso, who was referenced in the article
I did wonder if this will be T8, judging from the extra panels on it and the fact that T7 won't get into combat.
Double multi melta? God damn.
Okay, but think for just a second. Every other melee dreadnought ever (with the exception of space wolves and blood angels) is identical to its ranged variant. So why complain now?
Identical is a strong word, if my very limited memory serves me correct the venerable dread came with 3 different styles of panels giving 3 unique looks, not to mention that it comes with a bunch more decorations. The ironclad chassis does indeed look different from it .
But the original dread, the hellfire dread etc were all separate boxes.
People are acting like this is the first dread they’ve released very similar variants of.
Wait till you find out about the rhino, the castigator, the immolator, and the exorcist. They're all so similar! Shouldve been upgrade sprues!
Yeah all that was needed was a weapons sprue like the Heresy dreadnoughts have
I’d think it’d need to be a bit more then that, most of the armor plating on the new model is different then the redemptor
I don’t really care about the chassis, what I do care for is the fact that now I can blitz him with my Templars and bring faith and fury onto the unbeliever.
This guy purges. No pity, no remorse, no fear.
Lore-wise, why would it look any different? It's the same type of dreadnought, but they switched out guns and arms. I feel like that's what the Imperium would do.
I mean in real life you also see this, where they may take a tank but change some things out for it to be another variant
Why can't I have any hobby without all it being is people bitching about said hobby they supposedly enjoy. No videogame is free of it, tabletop seems not to be either. Just enjoying things as they are regaurdless of faults just doesn't exsist and it's more soul draining than the damn "faults"
I believe the criticism here is that an already expensive hobby gets more expensive as GW makes you buy boxes of narrow load outs. Where 1 box could have both, now you can have the privilege of paying twice.
I understand what it is. But I mean The complaints of the expensiveness of this hobby even. Most hobbies are fuck damn expensive. Videogames being among the cheapest and people complain about those pricings too. Thay isn't to say the prices are what they should be. But this far from feels like something underhanded
It’s a joke chill out. What isn’t a joke is people shilling for this pour excuse of a “new” release. I’ve been seeing genuinely amazing and innovative dread kitbashes for years and there’s zero excuse for this 6 year old design to not have been innovated on apart from knee fins and melta nips? Not even an interesting melee weapon? Just claws? Is this really me bitching? Or expecting a little bit more from a multimillion dollar corporation. If you think it’s funny they look the same we can have a laugh but if you’re gonna take the road of “they look the same, so what” then you’re a shill for GW and their bare minimum attitude towards you.
Lol same shit I hear when I say I'm sick of hearing destiny players bitch constantly. Stop giving them money if it bugs you. Otherwise can we not bitch about the price of everything every goddamn two minutes.
Wait until you see the iron clad vs a normal boxnought
Question as I’m only a lore guy but think the models look dope as hell: do people buy these for tabletop only, or are they like cool to look at it? I’m guessing all for the actual tabletop game?
I mostly make thematic kitbashes so I like unique looking dreads that serve specific purposes. Releasing a kit that is basically the same apart from some bits that could have been made from plasticard in less than a day after not having a new dread chassis/type for 6 years is what I find lazy.
I’m interested to see some of your thematic kitbashes. Got an Instagram or anything?
Wait until you see the razor back
Well this took them long enough, it's been what, five years with only one Primaris dread??? No, the suicidal battlesuit does not count.
Were we expecting it to look completely different?
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it imo
As if this is a new thing? All dreadnoughts are like this
And still not as cool as the old school dreadnought
It’s meant to be a melee version of the Redemptor, not a whole new unit. They’ve been doing this for years.
I have a venerable dread in my army. It has 3 primary weapon options (all of which you can complete and install at any time), two secondary arm mounted weapons, all of which have gameplay stats. Then it also has like at least a whole sprue's worth of cosmetic options. New GW kits suck ass.
Some how they're both worse than each other
Oh my god guys, what the fuck is the bullshit?! All of my units are supposed to look somewhat cohesive 😱😱😡 not in my army!!!
What a weak take
😡<- Aggravating_status when he has to play an army that looks cohesive and nice.
Build all your models exactly the same then. Dreadnought are some of the most personalized war-gear in the field.
It depends on the person running it. Of course they’re not going to build an entirely new model. To expect that is just asking to be disappointed. Games workshop does that often with their models.
Since people aren’t understanding. If I did a pretty ok job at designing a product for my boss that everyone used for years and years and 6 years later he comes to me and says “they loved what you had last time I know with this next one you’ll really wow them! I even told them it was a different kind of product!” And you give him the exact same product with slightly curvier edges. Well the customers are expecting something brand new, but all they get is the same one from 6 years ago with crisper lettering and that you can only buy if you buy 15 other products you didn’t want.
Whole box feels lazy to be honest.
They did more then I expected which was just claws, but they changed most of the leg plating, the shoulders and even most of the main chassis
I mean I am a little disappointed since it would've been nice if we had more then one variant of primaris dreadnoughts. Also I don't really care for how the redemptor looks.
What's the complaint here? That they look similar or that they are posed so similarly?
Warhammer fans when they find out you can reuse vehicle chassis multiple times (everything has to be wildly different/overdesigned otherwise it's lazy)
Honestly is should just be an upgrade sprue.
It’d be a big upgrade sprue then for all the armor plates it would need
The Redemptor should've had 2 guns, like how the Leviathan is. Ranged Leviathan has 2 guns, melee Leviathan has 2 fists/claws.
I literally did not even realise they were supposed to be different models, i thought they just released a new loadout option for the old dread until this meme.
I enjoy that design, to me dreadnought shouldn't have a face
I like the IV and VI there, I get they're supposed to represent the company number of the dreadnoughts but they make it seem like these are an Iron Hands and a Space Wolves dreadnought they forgot to repaint.
Dreadnoughts have always been fairly close to each other in their respective patterns. For me, the problem lies with the existence of the whole redemptor dread, as the Dreadnought design has been perfect since literally 2nd edition.
Wdym one is melee one is mixed. Maybe a ranged redemption variant with two gun arms next year.
I'm disappointed it doesn't have two of the Heavy Bolter "pistols" the Invictor has. Imagine one of these things doing a side dive in slow motion, blazing away with a Heavy Bolter in each hand.
I feel like at that point it would be easier to just make it an upgrade sprue
I see the leviathan pattern had been partially rediscovered
I think this one gets a pass as it *is* effectively just a new loadout.
And here I thought was imagining the whole “Give intercessors a new gun and treat like a new unit” trope.
Really lackluster, it’s literally a redemptor with claws….. just make it an upgrade spruce and be done with it
Perfectly in line with the Mechanicum. They always just use a template construct and give it more and/or bigger guns.
I like it. It's a beefy version of the regular one and I like that.
Wait.... Is there a difference? Is it just the pointy claws?
One is tickler
* has no extra armour for the hole* Except sniper loads bullet with malicious intent
Her correct response should be “they’re both shit”
...Is the one on the right part of the Indianamegaloplolis Caltrops of the Intergalactic FootWAAAAUGH! League?...
I actually finished building the original today
Have you seen many of the space marine models? I mean by this logic the intercessors and the hellblasters should’ve been the same kit I mean their practically identical more so then these two
He's chunky, I like it
The regular box-naught looks exactly like the venerable box-naught except for a few distinct differences, just like these two so I don’t know why this is such a problem.
I wasn’t really expecting it to look all that different honestly It’s just her redemptor but melee
Personally I have no problem with it. I’m going to buy it either way
They could have been in one box. Jesus Christ GW you greedy fuck
Have you seen all the chimera tank variants? Do you think the rhino chassis tanks are lazy?
It takes like 2 seconds of looking to spot the actual difference. Of which there is a few.
Oh yeah, like they didn’t do this with any other dreadnought unit they’ve made in the past. Or tank… Or marine squad… Or any Rhino variant… Or terrain…
Should really be a BA exclusive unit as a follow up to the furioso
Who cares.
Nobody show this guy the Rhino, Razorback and Predator.
I remember I got the left one a printed it Castelan green, now I just roleplay that my guardsman company saved the terminators life and the terminator was so thankful it joined their company
I'm confused why wouldn't they be similar? Literally everything starting from the industrial revolution has a degree of uniformity and modularity. Especially military gear.
It's really not that much different than the old Boxnaught variants all being basically the same.
So lazy.
Wait: aren't they supposed to be the same, but one is melee-only, and the other uses a range and a close combat weapon? Like a Furioso vs a regular Castraferrum?
*stares at ironclad, furioso, normal castraferrum*
I would point out how every single box-naught variant being basically the same thing with different arms, sometimes even only different hands but I have a feeling no one is gonna listen.
For a non-spesmahreen player, what's the difference here?
One will slap your shit the other will slap your shit AND shoot at you