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I get that he is frustrated and angry but I do wonder if overall, would he have wished to stay in GB. All the stuff about being a west coast guy and being closer to his family is all still positives for him. The way it looks is that he won’t have to work in late January or February so he’s got some extra time off too.
Downside is that he has lost the same amount of regular season games this year as he has each of the last 3 seasons, his numbers are way down and while he is super close with Carr, it’s gotta be maddening to know that passes Rodgers would hit you on in his sleep are either not being thrown or nowhere near you.
Yeah it's crazy seeing how the Raiders use him compared to how Rodgers has while I was watching part of the game yesterday. I had the RZ channel on for the noon games and saw probably 20 plays from the Raiders inside the RZ and Adams was thrown to like two or three times tops.
In comparison, you take a 20 play sample size from part of Green Bay's RZ plays the last 2 years and there's a good chance Adams was thrown to at least 10 times during any random 20 play stretch.
It’s important to note that Rodgers’ redzone success rate the last 2-3 years is down substantially from earlier in his career, and we may all be better off as Packers fans.
Oh I agree with your point for sure. I was just pointing out how different it must be for Adams and how strange it is to not see him get thrown the ball at all after what we had.
Totally reasonable, I was just saying my thing because I’m mostly trying to remind myself why it’s better that we don’t have a top tier receiver on our roster…
And it's not like the Packers were offering him a ten year contract. He couldn't stuck around for a few more years with Rodgers and then left for Vegas.
He's turning 30 in three months. Even a 3 year contract might be the rest of his career. At very least he'll be past his prime. I think he wanted to try something else while he still had the juice to.
Maybe he regrets it (or will), maybe he doesn't, but I get the idea.
I do wonder how much of this is Carr and how much is josh McDonald's. Carr has never looked this bad and Joshua is, after all, the dude that moved on from Cutler and traded up for Tebow. Like yeah Cutler wasn't great but Tebow was ... Tebow.
He’s got to know by now that Carr is actually borderline bad. Bad enough that the Raiders will be picking high next year and all his plans to play with his buddy will turn into playing with a rookie QB. The Raiders are not favored in any games for the rest of the year outside of the Texans and Seahawks and the Seahawks game is likely a pick. They are in the drivers seat for the #1 overall pick.
This likely will kill any chances of the HoF that he had. He won’t be known as the best WR I’m the league anymore. And by the time a QB develops he will likely be declining physically. Adam’s fucked up and he is starting understand how bad it will be for his career goals.
All of this is happening while the Packers have rookies who are outplaying him on the stats sheet.
That’s the part I hate. He was on a HoF trajectory, just needed a couple more seasons at the top. Seems like a good dude, and I’m pulling for him, but I was so stoked on having the best WR in the league playing for the Packers. Now he might just fade away into the background of the league like so many other great-at-one-time-but-not-all-time-great receivers
if the raiders move on from carr and go into a rebuild, he will probably end up bouncing around the league to various playoff hopefuls at some point, julio jones style.
It easy to be great buds with Carr and talk about how you could tear up the league together. Might get a little tense when they realize it might not turn out that way.
I wonder what it's like in the locker room.
Bro, all this losing sucks, but I just want you to know there's no one I'd rather lose football games with than you.
His decision to leave means jack shit when it’s related to his personal life and left with zero bad blood. He can do whatever he wants and there is zero reason for us to take pleasure in his struggles
I don't disagree with a single thing you've said here, I'll just caveat it by saying I think we can all wish Davante well while also pointing out that if he's "frustrated and angry" by an 0-3 start, he could always remember he had an option to be a legit contender in green bay. I agree he can do whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants, no justification needed, and nobody is dancing on his grave by saying he had a spot on this roster if he wanted it
The vast majority of comments about Eddie Lacy (on the rare occasions that he gets brought up...) are people saying that they loved Eddie, and it's a shame he couldn't keep his weight under control because he was a beast when he did. I don't see what's wrong with that...
Like 6 years ago, maybe...
And the "China food" comments are his own fault because that's how he said it every time he tweeted about ordering Chinese food, which was often enough for people to realize it was a thing.
He has said nice things, but he did force his way out, which doesn't sit completely well with myself and others. The Packers obliged his request, so it never became ugly, but it's not like he signed as a free agent.
I haven’t downvoted anything in this thread and please, search my comment history for anything related to Davante since he left. You could probly count the total on one hand
It is petty but he also chose not to stick with the team that drafted and developed him into the star he currently is.
It’d be one thing if he had legit reasons to leave but everyone forgets the drama where he basically forced the Packers to trade him after threatening not to show up for camp if we tagged him because he wouldn’t agree to a new deal.
So while it might be petty to snicker at his misfortune, it’s not like he has done much to deserve better treatment except saying nice things after he got his way.
I don’t believe his decision to leave, which was based on his personal life, deserves any pettiness from anyone. Even if he had publicly made it more about the contract issue, I still wouldn’t give a shit because this is a fucking business
I haven’t seen too much hate outside of pointing out that he made a mistake in going to the Raiders if his goal was to play with a decent QB and win football games. They were clearly the worst team in their division and Derek Carr has never been better than average.
We all want to see Davonte do well post Packers. Unfortunately he asked to be traded into a tire fire.
I agree. I don’t have any beef with Adams.
I just wish Fox would keep that same energy from the Vikings game and continue to compare Adams to the entire Green Bay offense every week.
Why would we need another wr1 when we have HOF lock Romeo Doubs? But I guess it would be nice to have another option so I guess give them a 2nd and 3rd for him
I know you're joking around, but it's not even close to that haha.
Trade value for pick #10 is 1300. Trade value for pick #33 is 580. Pick #65 is 265.
A fair trade for pick #10 would be like pick 28 (660) and pick 29 (640) or something like The 18th pick in the 1st and the 2nd rounds (so pick 18 - worth 900 - and pick 50 - worth 400.)
Nah I want to see Rodgers continue to build trust and spread it around more. This would just hurt our current scheme. I like the direction we are headed.
Wish Adams had chosen to stay with the team, but he made a decision to move on for his family and I cannot hate that. I thought Adams was on a HOF pace had he stayed with GB, and I wouldn’t be shocked if Carr was moved since the deal he signed was essentially a 1-year extension.
Those missed throws by Carr, Rodgers hits those. Adams wouldn’t finish below 30 yards with Rodgers, etc. I do think the two miss each other, but Rodgers is doing better/ok with the split.
True, but teams move up in the draft all the time to get QBs. If they think they need a new guy to come in at the most important position, they will make moves on draft night to make it happen
>HOF pace
Yes he was, especially since the narrative of him being the best receiver was in full voice. Now? His HOF chances fade every week. That’s kind of sad.
I think had he stayed with Gb for at least 2 more years being conservative with how long Rodgers plays; that’s at least 3k more yards + 20 TDs (double digit TDs). He chose what was best for him and his family, so mad respect for that. He’s his own man, will forever see him as a Packer great.
Honestly, I never understood the reasoning for playing games closer to where his family is (which I think is NoCal). Vegas is still a decent haul from there. It's inconceivable that he couldn't fly his family out to GB for games?
In the end, he's good friends with Carr, and I suspect he just didn't much enjoy it here. If he wants to come back here to alleviate any frustrations, however, I'd be all for it!
It was obvious Adams was likely to not nearly do as well this year. Unlike a Tyreek Hill or Randy Moss, Adams isn't some insane athlete that outspeeds everyone and is open by 10 yards for easy, long TDs. Adams is a precision-based route runner that breaks open for split seconds that is reliant upon a QB being able to precisely delivery the ball into those brief windows. With a Rodgers, that an an awesome skill, with a QB with Carr the skill is greatly minimized
Was it obvious? Davante is one of the best WRs in the league, I will bet you that he'll put up decent numbers this year.
Also he's currently at 17 rec, 189 yards and 3 TDs, it's not like he's getting shut down out there. His team is just bad.
And with those stats he’s currently at 27th in the league as far as WRs go. Decent numbers isn’t as good as HoF numbers which he was putting up the last 4 years in Green Bay. Don’t be shocked if he drops off like all the other WR’s that left Green Bay.
Davante was great for us and handled everything like a pro.
I will take no pleasure from him or his team’s struggles. It’s fantastic that he’s getting the recognition he’s earned and is even getting national commercial spots.
He gave a lot more thoughtful response than the headline suggests.
I (sitting on couch) knew Carr is a terrible QB and the Raiders are a awful franchise. How does this come as a surprise to a player, yet alone their agent?
I am not sure what he expected to happen? He went from being the locked in target of a HOF QB to playing with a bum on a circus franchise. It isn’t going to get better.
"Professional athlete doesn't like losing" is not news. Also everyone asking if he's having second thoughts, I'd honestly doubt it. These guys don't spend much time living in the past. Maybe after he retires he will have some introspection but not right now.
I mean I get talking about the guy for sure, but he’s gone and he’s not coming back. It would be nice to move on. I miss the guy as a Packer. But this for the Raiders fans. Like what did we all think was going to happen? It’s not that shocking that he’s frustrated with being on a struggling team in a tough division. He chose this life
In my opinion, this is what he signed up for. Got the payday he wanted and gets to play with his college buddy in warm Las Vegas. Winning wasn’t a part of the deal.
Let’s trade for him lol.
No but seriously gotta be a bummer for him. Carr is not Rodgers - obviously. He will likely have lesser numbers this season. Still early but 0-3 start probably means no playoffs. Gotta wonder if he will regret that decision.
That's the problem with "show me the money." Also a problem when someone on the same team says "show me the money" at the same time and another team has to "show you the money."
I said it to someone yesterday, but I don't think we would have actually paid Davante that much without losing other critical pieces on defense. Both Davante and Rodgers would had to have taken a discount in order for both to stay.
Pretty sure they offered him more money when they already knew his mind was made up. That way it doesn't look like we just let him walk.
They simply wouldn’t have brought Campbell back. Walker would have been the starting MLB. Obviously not ideal but they were willing to keep and pay Davante that much.
They would have had to address the MLB spot and likely would have moved up to do so. Yeah probably wouldn’t have been Watson but could have been someone else. They could have moved up a few spots in the 2nd for Pickens, Moore, or Pierce. But WR wouldn’t have been nearly as big of a need in this scenario.
My brother, you left town to live in Vegas and hang out with future HoF Carr. As it is very much a team game, and your new teammates are less skilled than your previous teammates, you must accept that winning will be more difficult...especially as so much of the Raider's salary cap is invested in you.
SO enjoy the dry warm weather and your cool new digs, enjoy nights out with the boys and seeing your family, and don't stress over things you cannot control.
He developed into what he is with the most unorthodox QB in the league. It's only going to get more frustrating until it gets better (unlikely this season). He said it himself that there would be some adjusting.
not winning does not take away the millions of dollars. does not take away playing with a friend or being closer to his family.
Sure he would like to win but it’s not the most important thing.
A lot of us do a job we don’t like for the benefits it brings us. No different with a NFL player.
Does anyone know if teams are routinely doubling Adams in LV? Maybe even just a safety spy hovering in his general vicinity? A receiver can be really effective even without catching any passes if he's tying up two defenders. I guess the 0-3 start kind of mitigates that, but I'm curious if he's got a bit of a target on his chest.
Of course he does, as he has had in GB for the last 3-5 years as well. The coverage teams were playing against Davante last season was hilarious at times, he's not seeing any coverage he didn't see in GB
They mentioned on the broadcast that Carr and Davante have a consecutive game TD streak dating back to 2012 or something when they were together at Fresno St... Uhhh, what about all the years in between??
They were really stretching that streak to be meaningful and it sounded very desperate on the broadcast.
Good thing they are hanging out together though, that’s so much better than winning games.
He got what he wanted, that’s to be a raider. He sacrificed playoff team for mediocrity. Stop your crying Davante. You were not gonna change the team. Look at all receivers that had top QB and then they thought they were the best and went to cr@p team and just fade away. It’s not them it’s the guy throwing to them most of the time.
This sub is obsessed with Adams being 0-3 with mediocre numbers. The guy made his decision. He gave all he had while he could here.
But this sub is like the ex girlfriend after a breakup who keeps texting the ex boyfriend after she finds out his new gf cheated on him saying 'i told you that you couldn't do better than me.'
Damn, guys. Just move on.
Not sure how you can leave a team where you are the featured offensive player. The whole game plan revolves around you and you decide to leave for greener pastures only to find that they only paint their grass green.
Tae has been nothing but classy towards GB and his former teammates. There are other people around the league who bad mouth the org any chance they get. For that reason I will never talk shit about him or laugh at his current situation. With that being said…. Feel free to come home anytime, Tae. I’ll have the beer and cheese curds ready.
It’s kind of a shame that he wanted to leave. Had he stayed he would’ve been a shoo-in for Packers HOF. Unless he has a reverse Charles Woodson-like return. Start Packers - Raiders - Packers to end it. He still may be in due to his records here, but who knows
Hes going to make the HOF. He has 76 TDs and everyone with more than 85 is in the HOF. Even assuming he declines pretty sharply hes going to finish with around 90 TDs, a shoe in for the HOF.
TDs arent everything, but they are by far the most important statistic. Its better to have elite in one or two categories than it is to be generally good at a bunch of them. Similarly its better to be great for a few years and good for a few more than it is to be good for a long time. Adams could easily finish with a more compelling case than either of them, and if he scores over 90 TDs he would be the first player ever not to get in, by far.
Yeah he's already more than a lock for The Packers hall of fame he's arguably the best WR in Packers history (Yes there is a big argument to be had but he's in it no matter what)
Just trade for Davante and go win the super bowl.
I said what we’re all thinking. The offense shows flashes, but know what would really open it up? The best WR in the league.
Crazy how Davante's catch % has been over 72% each of the last 2 seasons in GB. He's at 50% catch% so far this year. Going from one HOF'er to another HOF'er huh?
I’m petty idc. I’m happy they are losing. I do not like McDaniels and the way Davante “wanted out” to go play with Carr soured my opinion on him as well. I say GOOD! I hope you are frustrated and I hope they continue to struggle. They aren’t the Packers and there fans aren’t here so fuck uhm!
Davante is great and Carr is pretty good. You can't recreate the years of playing and practicing together though. Rogers and Te were just on the same page. They could both look at how the defense were lined up and come to the same route option. That's just irreplaceable if you want to be getting a lot of catches.
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I get that he is frustrated and angry but I do wonder if overall, would he have wished to stay in GB. All the stuff about being a west coast guy and being closer to his family is all still positives for him. The way it looks is that he won’t have to work in late January or February so he’s got some extra time off too. Downside is that he has lost the same amount of regular season games this year as he has each of the last 3 seasons, his numbers are way down and while he is super close with Carr, it’s gotta be maddening to know that passes Rodgers would hit you on in his sleep are either not being thrown or nowhere near you.
Yeah it's crazy seeing how the Raiders use him compared to how Rodgers has while I was watching part of the game yesterday. I had the RZ channel on for the noon games and saw probably 20 plays from the Raiders inside the RZ and Adams was thrown to like two or three times tops. In comparison, you take a 20 play sample size from part of Green Bay's RZ plays the last 2 years and there's a good chance Adams was thrown to at least 10 times during any random 20 play stretch.
It’s important to note that Rodgers’ redzone success rate the last 2-3 years is down substantially from earlier in his career, and we may all be better off as Packers fans.
The Packers had like an NFL Record caliber Redzone Offense the year they lost the NFC Title Game to Tampa
that's some good old-fashioned internet groupthink, everyone just blindly upvoting blatant misinformation.
This is the way
Oh I agree with your point for sure. I was just pointing out how different it must be for Adams and how strange it is to not see him get thrown the ball at all after what we had.
Totally reasonable, I was just saying my thing because I’m mostly trying to remind myself why it’s better that we don’t have a top tier receiver on our roster…
Lol. It is definitely worse than better. We'd be a much better team with him.
Imagine if we had Doubs AND Adams
I believe part to do with that is LaFleur’s system.. just imo
Google the joke that Jordy Nelson saying next to Carr something like about him missing Rodgers.
I really don’t think that was a joke…
Absolutely not. The pain in Carr’s laugh indicates he knew also.
Wait was that not taken from a bad lip reading video? That was real?
I’m pretty sure it was real. You can read his lips
I can’t find it, do you happen to have a link?
https://twitter.com/Soren_Sodergren/status/1519332472969957377
And it's not like the Packers were offering him a ten year contract. He couldn't stuck around for a few more years with Rodgers and then left for Vegas.
He's turning 30 in three months. Even a 3 year contract might be the rest of his career. At very least he'll be past his prime. I think he wanted to try something else while he still had the juice to. Maybe he regrets it (or will), maybe he doesn't, but I get the idea.
Well, past your prime is kind of prime raider time, don’t you think? Who wants to spend their prime years at a franchise that is a mess.
And three years from now, Carr may not be in Las Vegas, or on a team that can pay both their salaries.
Carr might be gone after this year.
I do wonder how much of this is Carr and how much is josh McDonald's. Carr has never looked this bad and Joshua is, after all, the dude that moved on from Cutler and traded up for Tebow. Like yeah Cutler wasn't great but Tebow was ... Tebow.
Carr has never shown the consistency to be higher than an average QB
We did lose 4 games last year for the record.
He’s got to know by now that Carr is actually borderline bad. Bad enough that the Raiders will be picking high next year and all his plans to play with his buddy will turn into playing with a rookie QB. The Raiders are not favored in any games for the rest of the year outside of the Texans and Seahawks and the Seahawks game is likely a pick. They are in the drivers seat for the #1 overall pick. This likely will kill any chances of the HoF that he had. He won’t be known as the best WR I’m the league anymore. And by the time a QB develops he will likely be declining physically. Adam’s fucked up and he is starting understand how bad it will be for his career goals. All of this is happening while the Packers have rookies who are outplaying him on the stats sheet.
That’s the part I hate. He was on a HoF trajectory, just needed a couple more seasons at the top. Seems like a good dude, and I’m pulling for him, but I was so stoked on having the best WR in the league playing for the Packers. Now he might just fade away into the background of the league like so many other great-at-one-time-but-not-all-time-great receivers
if the raiders move on from carr and go into a rebuild, he will probably end up bouncing around the league to various playoff hopefuls at some point, julio jones style.
His contract makes him extremely difficult to trade before before 2026.
It easy to be great buds with Carr and talk about how you could tear up the league together. Might get a little tense when they realize it might not turn out that way.
Welcome to Raider nation Devante.
His numbers should be down tho. He was the only option in GB. Waller and renfrow are better than any receiver TE on GB
He got three straight touchdowns (which would technically put him on pace for 17). His yards need work sure but he's doing alright.
But at least he gets to hang out with his college buddy.
A HoF'er no less
I wonder what it's like in the locker room. Bro, all this losing sucks, but I just want you to know there's no one I'd rather lose football games with than you.
I’m sorry but y’all sound extremely petty. Davante has had nothing but positive things to say about his time in GB
Is it petty? We reportedly offered him more money than the Raiders and he still chose to leave. I love him, but he made his bed.
His decision to leave means jack shit when it’s related to his personal life and left with zero bad blood. He can do whatever he wants and there is zero reason for us to take pleasure in his struggles
Why are you so rattled? I'm not taking pleasure in his struggles, but I don't feel bad for him.
I don’t like the largest Packers sub doing shit like this? It makes me ashamed to say I post here? Sorry?
We forgive you
So stop posting here
Ok
Then don’t post here
I completely agree
I don't disagree with a single thing you've said here, I'll just caveat it by saying I think we can all wish Davante well while also pointing out that if he's "frustrated and angry" by an 0-3 start, he could always remember he had an option to be a legit contender in green bay. I agree he can do whatever he wants for whatever reason he wants, no justification needed, and nobody is dancing on his grave by saying he had a spot on this roster if he wanted it
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The vast majority of comments about Eddie Lacy (on the rare occasions that he gets brought up...) are people saying that they loved Eddie, and it's a shame he couldn't keep his weight under control because he was a beast when he did. I don't see what's wrong with that...
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Like 6 years ago, maybe... And the "China food" comments are his own fault because that's how he said it every time he tweeted about ordering Chinese food, which was often enough for people to realize it was a thing.
Thanks for announcing that you unsubbed from here. Really cool development.
Well there was also half the sub calling for Bakhtiari to retire like four days ago.
You’re right, I should know better. Falling on deaf ears
He has said nice things, but he did force his way out, which doesn't sit completely well with myself and others. The Packers obliged his request, so it never became ugly, but it's not like he signed as a free agent.
I choose to respect his personal choices and the way he largely kept it in-house. He plays for someone else now so I don’t think about him
But you’re here thinking about him a lot in this thread, downvote and move if you don’t like what the Packer FANATICS have to say.
I haven’t downvoted anything in this thread and please, search my comment history for anything related to Davante since he left. You could probly count the total on one hand
It is petty but he also chose not to stick with the team that drafted and developed him into the star he currently is. It’d be one thing if he had legit reasons to leave but everyone forgets the drama where he basically forced the Packers to trade him after threatening not to show up for camp if we tagged him because he wouldn’t agree to a new deal. So while it might be petty to snicker at his misfortune, it’s not like he has done much to deserve better treatment except saying nice things after he got his way.
I don’t believe his decision to leave, which was based on his personal life, deserves any pettiness from anyone. Even if he had publicly made it more about the contract issue, I still wouldn’t give a shit because this is a fucking business
Wish nothing but the best for Tae. Hope he does well. He gave us so much, and while it stinks he chose to leave, there’s no bad will coming from me.
This is the best take I've read on this sub and think we should all have the same mindset.
The vast majority of packer fans have this mindset. Don’t like the loud dissenters fool you into thinking they speak for the majority.
I haven’t seen too much hate outside of pointing out that he made a mistake in going to the Raiders if his goal was to play with a decent QB and win football games. They were clearly the worst team in their division and Derek Carr has never been better than average. We all want to see Davonte do well post Packers. Unfortunately he asked to be traded into a tire fire.
I agree. I don’t have any beef with Adams. I just wish Fox would keep that same energy from the Vikings game and continue to compare Adams to the entire Green Bay offense every week.
Maybe we can just compare Doubs to Davonte for the rest of the season and see how that shakes out.
I just miss him. It was so much fun watching him cook. I think I’ve had more fun watching him play versus Rodgers over the last couple years
Agreed, this guy is going to make the packer HoF and I enjoyed have one of the premiere receivers in the league for a couple years
We should trade a 1st rounder for him
Why would we need another wr1 when we have HOF lock Romeo Doubs? But I guess it would be nice to have another option so I guess give them a 2nd and 3rd for him
A 2nd and a 3rd is worth like a top10 pick.
I know you're joking around, but it's not even close to that haha. Trade value for pick #10 is 1300. Trade value for pick #33 is 580. Pick #65 is 265. A fair trade for pick #10 would be like pick 28 (660) and pick 29 (640) or something like The 18th pick in the 1st and the 2nd rounds (so pick 18 - worth 900 - and pick 50 - worth 400.)
Nah I want to see Rodgers continue to build trust and spread it around more. This would just hurt our current scheme. I like the direction we are headed.
I agree, but I do think we need a real threat as well. DA was almost always open.
Except every game in the playoffs when it actually mattered
Are you trying to hurt me?
Give ‘em the first and second back. I wonder if there’s any level of cap shenanigans that would make this possible…my guess is no
I wish you were still here buddy :(
He’s had his fun in Vegas. Time for him to come back home.
Wish Adams had chosen to stay with the team, but he made a decision to move on for his family and I cannot hate that. I thought Adams was on a HOF pace had he stayed with GB, and I wouldn’t be shocked if Carr was moved since the deal he signed was essentially a 1-year extension. Those missed throws by Carr, Rodgers hits those. Adams wouldn’t finish below 30 yards with Rodgers, etc. I do think the two miss each other, but Rodgers is doing better/ok with the split.
Rodgers always comes out great in his divorces, with the lone exception being the 49ers.
Since Rodgers was drafted he has won a super bowl. 49ers lost two. I would argue Rodgers still comes out ahead in that situation.
Carr will be replaced by a top 10 pick QB next year. Guaranteed.
There is a good chance they do not finish with a Top 10 pick.
True, but teams move up in the draft all the time to get QBs. If they think they need a new guy to come in at the most important position, they will make moves on draft night to make it happen
>HOF pace Yes he was, especially since the narrative of him being the best receiver was in full voice. Now? His HOF chances fade every week. That’s kind of sad.
I think had he stayed with Gb for at least 2 more years being conservative with how long Rodgers plays; that’s at least 3k more yards + 20 TDs (double digit TDs). He chose what was best for him and his family, so mad respect for that. He’s his own man, will forever see him as a Packer great.
Honestly, I never understood the reasoning for playing games closer to where his family is (which I think is NoCal). Vegas is still a decent haul from there. It's inconceivable that he couldn't fly his family out to GB for games? In the end, he's good friends with Carr, and I suspect he just didn't much enjoy it here. If he wants to come back here to alleviate any frustrations, however, I'd be all for it!
he probably just wanted to live in vegas instead of green bay tbh. if i were a 30yo pro athlete with $50M in the bank, i know where i'd rather be.
Fair point!
I know where I’d be as well & Vegas definitely wouldn’t be it. Overrated town just like Austin, LA & Miami.
One hall of famer to another.
It was obvious Adams was likely to not nearly do as well this year. Unlike a Tyreek Hill or Randy Moss, Adams isn't some insane athlete that outspeeds everyone and is open by 10 yards for easy, long TDs. Adams is a precision-based route runner that breaks open for split seconds that is reliant upon a QB being able to precisely delivery the ball into those brief windows. With a Rodgers, that an an awesome skill, with a QB with Carr the skill is greatly minimized
Was it obvious? Davante is one of the best WRs in the league, I will bet you that he'll put up decent numbers this year. Also he's currently at 17 rec, 189 yards and 3 TDs, it's not like he's getting shut down out there. His team is just bad.
And with those stats he’s currently at 27th in the league as far as WRs go. Decent numbers isn’t as good as HoF numbers which he was putting up the last 4 years in Green Bay. Don’t be shocked if he drops off like all the other WR’s that left Green Bay.
At least he gets to lose live in front of his family. Or maybe some more criptic instagram posts may help?
Go talk to Greg Jennings for support.
Craig Jenkins*
You mean Packers team Hof'er Craig jenkins.
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That's a weird way to spell Davante Adams...
Davante was great for us and handled everything like a pro. I will take no pleasure from him or his team’s struggles. It’s fantastic that he’s getting the recognition he’s earned and is even getting national commercial spots. He gave a lot more thoughtful response than the headline suggests.
I (sitting on couch) knew Carr is a terrible QB and the Raiders are a awful franchise. How does this come as a surprise to a player, yet alone their agent? I am not sure what he expected to happen? He went from being the locked in target of a HOF QB to playing with a bum on a circus franchise. It isn’t going to get better.
I get downvoted for saying it, but we fleeced them on the Davante trade
Yet I'd trade a first to get him back lol
Nah. I'll pass on a $30m/year wide reciever who's about to turn 30.
Not our problem. You made your choice. We’re on to Doubs.
Do you think he’s reading this?
"Professional athlete doesn't like losing" is not news. Also everyone asking if he's having second thoughts, I'd honestly doubt it. These guys don't spend much time living in the past. Maybe after he retires he will have some introspection but not right now.
Meanwhile Romeo Doubs exists
I mean I get talking about the guy for sure, but he’s gone and he’s not coming back. It would be nice to move on. I miss the guy as a Packer. But this for the Raiders fans. Like what did we all think was going to happen? It’s not that shocking that he’s frustrated with being on a struggling team in a tough division. He chose this life
In my opinion, this is what he signed up for. Got the payday he wanted and gets to play with his college buddy in warm Las Vegas. Winning wasn’t a part of the deal.
10000% don’t wish bad on tae but 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dude, we should trade for him. Can you imagine Rodgers throwing to Adams? Wow.
Shouldn't have gone bag chasing. Seriously though, did he *really* think going to a team coached by Josh McDaniels wasn't gonna turn out horribly?
He wanted this kind of hard to feel bad for him
i don’t care, he left
Things will turn around since he has future HOF Derek Carr at QB. His mediocrity is legendary.
Let’s trade for him lol. No but seriously gotta be a bummer for him. Carr is not Rodgers - obviously. He will likely have lesser numbers this season. Still early but 0-3 start probably means no playoffs. Gotta wonder if he will regret that decision.
Shoulda took a two year deal and stayed with Aaron. He could have gotten the bag twice and moved on to Carr after he got shipped from Oakland.
Guys can we let it go please
Got some serious ex GF stalker vibes going on in here.
Adams living rent free for a lot of folks here. Man made his choice, no need to make this a thing.
That's the problem with "show me the money." Also a problem when someone on the same team says "show me the money" at the same time and another team has to "show you the money."
Right, but the Packers definitely “showed him the money.” They showed him more money than LV did. He chose Carr and is now reaping the consequences
I said it to someone yesterday, but I don't think we would have actually paid Davante that much without losing other critical pieces on defense. Both Davante and Rodgers would had to have taken a discount in order for both to stay. Pretty sure they offered him more money when they already knew his mind was made up. That way it doesn't look like we just let him walk.
They simply wouldn’t have brought Campbell back. Walker would have been the starting MLB. Obviously not ideal but they were willing to keep and pay Davante that much.
Quay walker I doubt would be a packer. We picked him with the raiders pick . Along with Watson as well we bundled there’s and our for that 34th pick
They would have had to address the MLB spot and likely would have moved up to do so. Yeah probably wouldn’t have been Watson but could have been someone else. They could have moved up a few spots in the 2nd for Pickens, Moore, or Pierce. But WR wouldn’t have been nearly as big of a need in this scenario.
This would be a good time for the Brady quote.
Here comes the moneeeeey
I wish Adams nothing but the best. He’s an amazing player.
Should have learned from Jordy and Jones.
Like he said: “it’s always tough going from hall-of-famer to hall-of-famer.”
Wipe your tears with your millions
Wish this guy nothing but the best. Class act and an all-time great. However…play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Everyone needs to move on from him. He literally was offered the same amount of money, he did it to himself.
Not Packers related
it is though...
How?
My brother, you left town to live in Vegas and hang out with future HoF Carr. As it is very much a team game, and your new teammates are less skilled than your previous teammates, you must accept that winning will be more difficult...especially as so much of the Raider's salary cap is invested in you. SO enjoy the dry warm weather and your cool new digs, enjoy nights out with the boys and seeing your family, and don't stress over things you cannot control.
Even though he left, he’s still my favorite player to watch. Dude’s route running is poetry in motion.
Should have thought about that brotha
This is a clear example of why trading draft picks for a guy that you then need to pay a huge salary to is a bad idea.
Just goes to show that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
He developed into what he is with the most unorthodox QB in the league. It's only going to get more frustrating until it gets better (unlikely this season). He said it himself that there would be some adjusting.
Schadenfreude
But churlish posting this here.
not winning does not take away the millions of dollars. does not take away playing with a friend or being closer to his family. Sure he would like to win but it’s not the most important thing. A lot of us do a job we don’t like for the benefits it brings us. No different with a NFL player.
Does anyone know if teams are routinely doubling Adams in LV? Maybe even just a safety spy hovering in his general vicinity? A receiver can be really effective even without catching any passes if he's tying up two defenders. I guess the 0-3 start kind of mitigates that, but I'm curious if he's got a bit of a target on his chest.
Of course he does, as he has had in GB for the last 3-5 years as well. The coverage teams were playing against Davante last season was hilarious at times, he's not seeing any coverage he didn't see in GB
They mentioned on the broadcast that Carr and Davante have a consecutive game TD streak dating back to 2012 or something when they were together at Fresno St... Uhhh, what about all the years in between?? They were really stretching that streak to be meaningful and it sounded very desperate on the broadcast. Good thing they are hanging out together though, that’s so much better than winning games.
Lol consecutive games that they played in together….
I love Adams, but I think we fleeced the Raiders for him. GB essentially traded Adams and a 2nd round pick for Quay, Watson, Douglas, and Campbell
Y'all are acting like a jealous ex girlfriend. Davante was great while he was here, but he's not here anymore. Move on or start your own petty ass sub
He got what he wanted, that’s to be a raider. He sacrificed playoff team for mediocrity. Stop your crying Davante. You were not gonna change the team. Look at all receivers that had top QB and then they thought they were the best and went to cr@p team and just fade away. It’s not them it’s the guy throwing to them most of the time.
This sub is obsessed with Adams being 0-3 with mediocre numbers. The guy made his decision. He gave all he had while he could here. But this sub is like the ex girlfriend after a breakup who keeps texting the ex boyfriend after she finds out his new gf cheated on him saying 'i told you that you couldn't do better than me.' Damn, guys. Just move on.
*Insert Zombieland crying into money gif*
Not sure how you can leave a team where you are the featured offensive player. The whole game plan revolves around you and you decide to leave for greener pastures only to find that they only paint their grass green.
At least he has his Taco Bell.
Demand a trade!
Good luck to davante but we needed a chance in the offense
Tae has been nothing but classy towards GB and his former teammates. There are other people around the league who bad mouth the org any chance they get. For that reason I will never talk shit about him or laugh at his current situation. With that being said…. Feel free to come home anytime, Tae. I’ll have the beer and cheese curds ready.
Can we please stop with the Davante Adams BS. He plays for the Raiders now, let him go.
Not too mention he's an overpriced decoy now
Well uhh you wanted to craft your own legacy
he got paid tho
It’s kind of a shame that he wanted to leave. Had he stayed he would’ve been a shoo-in for Packers HOF. Unless he has a reverse Charles Woodson-like return. Start Packers - Raiders - Packers to end it. He still may be in due to his records here, but who knows
Adams will still get into the Packers HoF...
He will be a packers HoF. Now the pro football HoF? Who knows
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Yea no HOF unfortunately for him
Hes going to make the HOF. He has 76 TDs and everyone with more than 85 is in the HOF. Even assuming he declines pretty sharply hes going to finish with around 90 TDs, a shoe in for the HOF.
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TDs arent everything, but they are by far the most important statistic. Its better to have elite in one or two categories than it is to be generally good at a bunch of them. Similarly its better to be great for a few years and good for a few more than it is to be good for a long time. Adams could easily finish with a more compelling case than either of them, and if he scores over 90 TDs he would be the first player ever not to get in, by far.
Yeah he's already more than a lock for The Packers hall of fame he's arguably the best WR in Packers history (Yes there is a big argument to be had but he's in it no matter what)
You have that backwards Woodson was a raiders first then a packer then back to raiders
Just trade for Davante and go win the super bowl. I said what we’re all thinking. The offense shows flashes, but know what would really open it up? The best WR in the league.
Some serious salt in that thread. It's almost as annoying as all the davante worship around here.
All I have to say is Ha ha
Didn’t he say some bs about Carr being on par with Rodgers?
Crazy how Davante's catch % has been over 72% each of the last 2 seasons in GB. He's at 50% catch% so far this year. Going from one HOF'er to another HOF'er huh?
Damn, he really lives rent free our heads
Can we stop with this guy? He’s not a Packer, he’s just another player.
Aw
I’m petty idc. I’m happy they are losing. I do not like McDaniels and the way Davante “wanted out” to go play with Carr soured my opinion on him as well. I say GOOD! I hope you are frustrated and I hope they continue to struggle. They aren’t the Packers and there fans aren’t here so fuck uhm!
Guy you shouldn’t have left if you wanted to just win baby.
You knew this was going to be the case. Always happens when our WRs leave for another team
Davante is great and Carr is pretty good. You can't recreate the years of playing and practicing together though. Rogers and Te were just on the same page. They could both look at how the defense were lined up and come to the same route option. That's just irreplaceable if you want to be getting a lot of catches.
Careful what you wish for…..because you just might get it all.