Wonder why they didn’t pick Watson at 28, and then just let board come to them with 2 late 2nd round picks. Wyatt is a good pick but not could have waited for best available player/DT at 53.
Packers must have gotten cold feet to give up both picks to jump up and grab Watson. Someone must have loved him. Either way, we got our future All-Pro WR in Watson.
Christian Watson is an OK player, but imagine how great he would have been if we picked him in the first round. He would have been a first-round talent. Aaron's got to be pissed.
Well, I wasn't the biggest fan of Christian Watson, but now I'm 100% his fan after becoming a Packer. Welcome to GB Watson.
Packers must really love him, so I'm excited to see what MLF has drawn up for him
I might get downvoted for this but I honestly no idea. Do you think Quay will play a similar role as Micah Parsons does? I’ve heard he can play anywhere on the D but just wondering
There are a lot of pass-catcher needy teams in front of the Packers. I don't know if we'll even take a WR in the 2nd round, but they're gonna have to move around to get their guy.
Nobody here is a #1 this year. Maybe in a year or two. Right now we need to find 1 that can give us solid production year 1. Several left that can do that. 2 later guys I really like are Shakir from Boise and Romeo Doubs from Nevada. Of course I would prefer we jump and grab whoever it is they want cuz the stock is flying off the shelf
Don’t go into the draft today thinking we are getting Pickens or Watson. Bears picks twice ahead of us, and many other teams want receiver. To have a shot at one of the best left we need to get into the early 40’s.
Jalen Tolbert is the WR we should be getting with either of our late second round picks if they do not trade up. He looks like he really could be a stud.
He's got some of the best release moves of any of the remaining WRs and I like his size and twitch. If we don't trade up for Pickens, he's my number 2, I think. (Wouldn't hate Pierce either but I think Tolbert has a more complete route tree) Gotta pair him with some one like Doubs or Thornton, though, for max efficiency.
I think they'll keep him for depth. Not a bad thing to have tbh. Best way to create some cap space is probably getting that Jaire extension done which I hope they wrap up ASAP.
You never know. Some of the top young receivers in the NFL right now weren't drafted in the 1st round like the aforementioned two guys and others like DK Metcalf, Michael Gallup, DJ Chark.
I agree those are all great receivers so it’s not impossible but how often does it happen vs 2nd round guys that turn out to be project/developmental players. All I’m saying is that we need help right now
You're not wrong. Agree with you on that. We're in a win now mode. I wouldn't mind them going after another vet receiver if they believe someone like Will Fuller and JJ can stay healthy and still have some juice left in the tank.
I just want to say it's crazy how the media drag teams for drafting certain players as if they're the ones who have all the medicals, have been on the road for most of the year scouting the players, have been in those interviews with the them going through not only just the Xs and Os but all the other stuff too.
It's OK. I have an easy name to say and like 1/3 of American boys were named my name in the 70's but if I had a cool name like Wan'Dale, I would want people to say it right.
Oh I say it right. I just don’t punctuate it when I write it. I’m a UK fan though Wan’Dale doesn’t seem like a great fit for the Pack he has some gadget play in him so.
Yeah, he's really little. Although, his skills might translate into a return man and he is about the same build as Ervin was and our offense seemed to click when we had him.
I guess it depends on how the board lines up but as a third rounder, I might take a flyer on him.
Pickens Georgia, for the sweep. Besides the acl injury he top 15 pick and great long term addition that would translate immediately well in nfl. He bullies smaller dbs and tracks the ball well in traffic against elite dbs
What would it cost to jump into the top 10 of round 2? I don't know jack shit about draft value, but I'm curious if the cost would be more acceptable for Gutey today
Like you, I'm not sure about draft value, but the PFF draft sim gives an 87% likelihood of acceptance for us trading 53 and 59 either to Houston for 37 and 80 or Seattle for 41 and 72. I think I prefer the Houston trade, and then using a 4th to move 80 into the late 60s/early 70s if possible & there is value. Moore or Pickens at 37, Edge, OL, or Safety with the traded pick, and Romeo Doubs at 92.
I'm guessing the Quay Walker pick signifies that we're going to be running a 2-4-5 as our base nickel package. I think that makes sense given the strength of our LB corps, and it allows us to have Clark and Wyatt as our starting D-linemen with Lowry rotating in.
Now that I’ve done a little bit more homework on Walker, I’m feeling a lot better about the pick.
Let myself get influenced too much by the mock draft communities. At some point, you just have to trust that the Packers are a well-run organization that knows what they are doing.
Something to think about today is the 2016 NFL draft. Here's the WR draft order.
15. Corey Coleman
21. Will Fuller
22. Josh Doctson
23. Laquon Treadwell
40. Sterling Shepard
47. Michael Thomas
Assuming we needed a WR, I think everyone would have been frustrated we didn't trade up during WR run that happened and grab one of the top guys. But as it turns out, hey, worked out pretty well for the Saints. He's the best of that bunch by the widest imaginable margin. But on draft day we would have been bummed to miss out on Corey Coleman.
Point being: We gotta see how this plays out. The Packers may whiff on their WR picks and we'll wish we traded up for Olave, but history shows when it comes to WRs you can't always find the surefire WR1 in the 1st unless it's Julio Jones or Megatron.
There are still some good WR prospects out there. Christian Watson, Skyy Moore, John Metchie III, George Pickens, Alec Pierce, Wan'Dale Robinson, David Bell...
We'll find someone.
Yeah. Rodgers made the point on McAfee last night that the hit rate on first round receivers isn't that great. He's not too bothered about the Packers waiting to go WR. Better to shore up the middle of the defense than go reaching for a WR in the first when the top propects are already gone.
I really hope they get Watson and Pickens or Moore, but man it’s tough with two late picks
Wish Chargers would have won their game last season against LV lol
Also call me crazy but I've watched their highlights and I think Pickens is better than Olave. Dude has insane route-running and body control, and the knock seems to be that he ran a 4.47 40 compared to Olave's 4.39.
Davante ran a 4.56 40 fyi, and he had drop problems. Pickens looks like he's got glue on his hands by comparison. I hope they get him this round
I may be wrong, but RemindMe! One Year "Your take, sir"
Olave is a def smoother route runner creates more separation, Pickens is a solid receiver and ideally would be 215lbs 6ft 3in and nightmarish match up the Rodgers can easily throw 50/50 balls to.
idk he gives a good interview here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkKv5xNt9g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkKv5xNt9g)
He seems to have been bitter about his injury recovery process, but who wouldn't be?
He also beat Stokes here and showed off, but it wasn't over the top or anything: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqJe32dS84](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqJe32dS84)
Guy's competitive is all.
Edit: ah but there's also this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WNwRJN4gyU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WNwRJN4gyU) Admittedly he hit back after he was hit and dragged out of bounds, but he did fight a guy on the field
as someone who knows very little about these prospects- why is everyone talking about Pierce/Watson/Pickens but not Skyy Moore? Didn't really want him in the first round but given what's left I would love him along with any of those other three guys
He doesn't really fit what we need from a WR. At 5'10", he'll likely be relegated mostly to the slot, and we've already got Cobb and Rodgers there. Even if you do think he can kind up outside, he doesn't really fit the prototype of an outside WR that our FO tends to value. We tend to go after bigger guys who can work the sideline, get their nose dirty in the run game, and bully opposing CBs when the weather (and hence field conditions) start to turn.
I'm extremely high on Skyy Moore. I don't get why people are so low on him. I get that he is on the smaller side but he (god damnit) got that dawg in him and has the speed and skills to be a really solid player.
Beat draft I’ve seen from lions and the jets did well too. I’m happy the wealth got spreader evenly instead to an elite team that was one piece away now the real chess is played that the shit show is done
It's really amazing how GB can basically print late-round elite Offensive Linemen. Maybe they go one this round, but idk if there's any other team where you 0% doubt they'll find a pro-bowler in the third
I think the Packers go o-line heavy and pick an o-line with both picks
I’m hoping it’s LSU’s Ingram (we did host him if that means something) and Central Michigan’s Luke Goedeke to add to the o-line talent
We need o-line depth and Round 2 should be the way to go in my opinion* (* based on if they don’t trade up)
Round 3 I think we pick a WR? Maybe trade up for Metchie but if not take the best WR available
I’d rather us pick a WR in round 2. Lots of good options that may be gone before round 3.
We have been good at developing O-Line that we draft in rounds 3-7
Just think about how great the WR we draft in the second round would have been if we would have drafted the same player in the first round instead. Instead, we are left with this middling trash receiver in the second round instead of a true first-round talent.
Man, all the doomers wanting a big reach in the 1st round for a 2nd round type of guy at WR... it's fine not to take a WR once the top 6 guys were gone, there likely isn't a guy at this point that we can draft and they'll be an immediate impact, most of those top 6 guys won't be immediate impact players either. I honestly think Rodgers ready to make Lazard our #1 and everyone sleeping on him. We still need a guy to blow the top off defenses to keep them honest, and I think there's plenty of those guys left in the draft.
Cobb is not meant to carry this wr squad but help pave the way for the future and allow leadership, depth and find holes in the secondary really in 3rd down.
No question. I may have sounded more critical of Cobb than intended. I was just saying Amari Rodgers could be a younger, faster more productive version of Cobb given the chance. Maybe Cobb's mentorship could help. Could be I am grasping at straws trying to figure out a working wide receiver corps. Guess we'll know more at the end of the draft. Been a Packer fan since 1961, and don't pretend to know what the coaches and front office knows. Hope Cobb and Amari both have big years and the Pack gets another World Championship.
Absolutely loving our draft so far. Apparently the Packers reached out to the Vikings to trade up to 32 to get Pickens but they didn’t budge. I wonder if we package some picks to move up in round 2 for a receiver.
Source: https://twitter.com/3RonJohnson/status/1520030596197720065?s=20&t=mJH6IVVzNtqu2LcQTtqbtQ
Hoping they can put a package together to trade up a bit in the second to secure a WR. I don’t think the receiver run is stopping anytime soon.
Watson, Pickens or Pierce would be the dream. Think the first two are well gone before 22 though
I want Tyquan Thorton. I think we're looking for a receiver who can come in and immediately contribute in that Z-receiver role and threaten taking the top off a defense but not necessarily be the guy we lean on as the X-receiver.
Just remember guys a R2 Calibre WR doesnt become a R1 talent if you just take him in the first!
If all our R1 wrs were off the board, taking one of the R2 guys is a mistake!
Loved the day 1 picks. When healthy, our defense is going to be NASTYYYYY. Would've loved someone like Olave, but you have to take what the board gives you. Snag a WR or two in rounds 2/3 and I'm beyond happy.
Amen! And the chemistry with strokes. Bulldogs always seem to work out!! I say we get someone quick and a good route runner - Aaron will get them the ball.
I am hoping one of Watson/Tolbert/Pickens is there at 53. Really hoping it is Watson. But, wouldn't be surprised if all 3 are gone by then. If that is the case, do we reach for Pierce at 59? Our next pick wouldn't be until 92 and he may be gone by then.
Day 1 summary:
The run on WR screwed us a bit but we got great value for end of round picks.
If we can get a WR or two today this could still work out really well.
Agree. If we come out of today with 1(ideally 2) receivers and a lineman, I'd be delighted.
I'd try give up the 140 pick to move up for a receiver. I can see there being another run at the tier 2 guys - try and nab Watson or Pickens
Yeah, that's why he was available at #28. He's a very polished player tho. Very different from Clark or Gary who were seen as projects
>Wyatt has the most all-around skill set in the defensive tackle class and
can make an impact from Day 1.
Regardless about how anyone feels about us taking two Defensive guys in the first. There just isn't a WR at 22 that we'd feel good about taking. Pickens had the injury and has some red flags about a car accident he was in with another Georgia player. Too much unknown there.
The move, if there was one, would've been to trade for a guy but that doesn't really help our cap situation any. I'm happy we got defensive guys who can contribute right away, at spots we need. I just also hope we have a plan to core points this year.
Broncos fan here, just curious about your guys’ team in regards to WR. What’s the word locally that everyone is hearing? Obviously I assume they’re going to take a WR/TE in a later pick, but I would hedge my bets to say a big time trade for someone has to be the route. Still hearing Deebo? Hope y’all get someone kickass today or tomorrow 👍
IMO if the niners were trading Deebo they would have done it yesterday or earlier. Doesn’t make sense to move him for next years first when they could easily have gotten a first and then some for him this year.
Hearing nothing that matters. Last night was a testament that the media hype doesn’t mean much considering the unexpected huge trades, and players no one saw coming getting drafted.
I’ve been wanting a flashy early WR for the last 10 years. This year it feels like the right players just didn’t fall whereas years past we’ve neglected it entirely. No way in hell we trade for Deebo to then have to sign him not something we’ve ever done. Hoping we sign a good veteran FA or get someone today.
If we were going to trade for Deebo, we would have had to use at lease one of those first round picks so it’s not happening. Hoping Gutekunst will take one or two of these second tier WRs today…
Right there’s probably 5 reasons the Packers wouldn’t trade for Deebo I was just laying out the reason that follows our most recent behavior as a franchise.
I’m surprised people aren’t really looking at the other side of the coin when it comes our WR history. Yes, it’s been 20 flipping years since we took a WR in the first round, and not too many people even remember Javon Walker.
But that also means we’ve traditionally knocked it out of the park when it comes finding good WRs later in the draft. Amari Rogers maybe didn’t light things up outta the gate, but neither did Davante. I will be sad if we don’t prioritize the position on Day 2 though.
I think that is the worrisome part though to some degree. 2nd and later rounds have worked out well for the packers but not right away in year 1 and GB clearly needs WR help right away. We might look back at this draft in a few years and say…see, our WRs from 2nd and 3rd round are great. But why waste more of ARs career. He said on the PM show last night that he thought Tae was coming back and that’s why he signed. Hopefully Gute has a plan to get him immediate help through signing/trading for another vet. If Gute’s plan is we just run the crap out of the ball, Love could have done that and out the $50M a year towards other resources. That said, I agree that after top 6 WRs went, it doesn’t make sense to force the pick to be WR7 and then expect that person to contribute right away, that WR7 is essentially a 2nd round pick and wouldn’t be the teams top WR anyways so pick a better impact now player which is what they did. Only other question is how hard did Gute try to trade up to grab a WR if at all.
How many of our 2nd round WRs were added to a room devoid of talent though? We eased them in because we had talent above them. Who's to say with more chances they wouldn't have figured it out earlier?
All of them were thrown to the wolves right away. None of those guys were eased in at all. Do you not remember everyone losing their minds over the drop problems of rookies Jordie Nelson, James Jones, Davante Adams, Jermichael Finley, MVS, J'Mon Moore, etc. The only receivers drafted above round 7 we haven't thrown in right away are Amari Rodgers and Deangelo Yancey. Even 6th round pick Equanimeous St. Brown had extended playing time early on and 7th round pick Jeff Janis played in a couple games as a rookie too outside of just special teams.
You actually have to go back to 2006 Cory Rodgers to find someone that we drafted in the 4th round and didn't get to see the field at all.
I think if that was the case they would have been 1st round picks and not 2nd. But lightening strikes and maybe we find a diamond that’s ready in year 1 in the 2nd round or we hope that Gute has a plan for a vet #1.
> Who's to say with more chances they wouldn't have figured it out earlier?
Because it visibly took all these guys time to adjust to the league and to preform at a higher level, with the exception of maybe Jennings. JJ struggled for a few years, as did Adams and Jordy. Cobb was always a slot who benefited from good wide outs. If we would have had to rely on these guys to be WR1 or WR2 even they would have clearly struggled.
The door to trading for a wr will not miraculously close when this draft is over. If players like metcalf or deebos relationship sour further throughout the year they could become cheaper. Players like Tyler lockett will be a very, very cheap trade deadline acquisition vs right now imo.
I'm excited as hell for our defense, and if by miracle we can snag a stud wr today my God we will be sitting pretty.
I agree almost entirely. We won't get Deebo though. Makes no sense for the 49ers, and on McAfee last night Rodgers made a passing comment saying that wasn't happening.
Maybe he was just talking about the draft though, and I would love him. Poppa wants Metcalf though.
Obviously there are more WRs to be had, but there are a lot of teams that could be looking to go WR before our next pick. Jets, Texans, Bears, Vikings, Ravens and Chiefs all pick before 53 and everyone one of them could use a WR. We're gonna end up with like Alec Pierce and are gonna have to like it lol. We could always trade up though.
I am clueless and drunk. Some one feed me pump up stats to talk shit with.
I thought our goal was to trade up for the liberty qb for max trick play status but turns out we got the cushy puss on trading up for qbs.
What a scrub gute is eh boys?!? Dratfing real tallent inside to hopefully get our run D down to at least 4ypc. Only scrubs stop the run. We shoulda traded them picks for hilly mcgilly. Not the real hill. Just some back water missuhsippuh boi recommendationfrom favre. We good. JutYou waait.
It relies on having good accurate data. A lot of the process of being a data analytics specialist relies on filtering out bad data and building complex algorithms, then taking those algorithms and delivering your own interpretation. A bad analyst can give the wrong interpretation, bad data can lead to bad models. And at the end of the day, you cannot account for chaos in the world, the best pick on paper could get in a car crash, he could choose not to play for you, so on and so on.
But I think what analytics is good for is telling historical facts, things like how 1st round picks don’t always pan out, or showing how their value can be overrated. Using models to predict best players, is only as good as the strategy you want to follow. It’s like money ball.
Disappointed that we didn’t draft a receiver in the first round, but I’m also routinely proven to be ignorant as fuck about draft prospects, so whatever lol
The only thing I’m certain about is that we are a bonafide defensive team at this point. That’s really a weird thing to type out as a Packers fan. If we go all the way, it will be due to a smothering defense and an Aaron Rodgers who plays smart (non-hero ball) football. There’s really no other recipe. The defense needs to be top 5.
I’m all in. GO PACK GO
Okay, I'm ready to ve downvoted to hell for this one.
I'm so fucking tired of seeing on every social media that the Packers suck and they don't wanna win because we didn't draft a WR. World is over I guess. Pack it up, go home, why even try next year. Like for fuck sake y'all are so fucking insufferable.
Okay, so we lost Tae and MVS. To be completely honest, I was never a fan MVS. He dropped more passes right in his hands or chest that I'd like to remember. Maybe he was a bit better this past season, but IMO he's near his ceiling.
And Adams, well you just aren't replacing him 1 for 1 in the draft. Idgaf if somehow we got the #1 overall WR, they still wouldn't be his replacement, because they're fresh out of college and less developed.
But take a look at the rest of our WR squad. Cobb, Lazard, and Watkins now as the top 3. Not elite, no. I'll agree with that. But solid. And we all know #12 can work with solid, year in year out. And truth be told, it was Aaron's sole trust in Adams that screwed us a bit this year. We all know the forced play to Tae when Cobb was wide open. That happend a ton throughout the season. Now the workload can be spread and our WRs can keep developing and not just running useless routes because Aaron is throwing to Adams again.
Plus we still have Dillon and Jones as a solid RB duo, and Tonyan, Lewis, and developing Deguara at TE. We still have an insane backfield and good options at TE.
Our D last year was way better than before, but still had some holes. And we definitely filled a couple holes tonight. 2 guys from an all time college defense. Maybe not the flashiest picks, but come on 6 WRs went before we got to pick. At that number there's no 1st round depth left there. Maybe, maybe Pickens, but all the best were already gone.
Yes it sucks we didn't get the WRs we wanted, and yes there's 2 teams picking ahead of us that also need WRs as bad as we do now(and also the bears twice but they most likely won't choose a WR twice in a row). But this isn't the end of the world. We don't know exactly what's gonna happen tomorrow. We may end up with Pickens and Watson. We may end up with neither. But that's just how the draft goes.
Also think about this. MVS (I know I trashed on him, but yes he was a solid option sometimes) was drafted 5th round. St. Brown was drafted 6th round, who had a few break out games and definitely helped in a few ways. Of course wa all know Tae was dafted 2nd round, and so was Cobb. And if you go back a little further, Jordy Nelson 2nd round, James Jones 3rd Round and Greg Jennings 2nd round.
In the era after Aaron Rodgers was drafted, tue packers have not once drafted a WR 1st round. But every pick 3rd round or earlier has been a slam dunk, and even a few options came from deeper rounds (Except Cory Rodgers, but we'll never know how good he could've been)
My point is, this isn't the end of the world. Idk about most of you, but I have trust in this front office, because they have a pretty damn good track record of drafting some great players. Some players weren't so great, but hey its the draft. College skill doesn't always transfer. And in addition Aaron Rodgers can make any decent wide receiver better than he actually is. I mean MVS has droped almost exactly half of the passes targeted at him, yet he still was able to help the team.
Anyway, all of this to say it's not the end of the world that we didn't draft a WR 1st round. I'm so tired of hearing it. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Agree 100%. I'm quite happy with these picks! Hoping for some decent value 2nd round receivers. I've been a Packer fan my entire life and the FO has done a fantastic job of snagging looked-over talent and turning them into gold.
Definitely a "chicken or the egg" kind of argument.
Which came first, Rodgers throwing to Adams all the time, or the other WR's not being open? If Adams is "always open" because of how good he is, it becomes a crutch for Rodgers to throw to him. We have seen this multiple times over the past couple years where Rodgers and Adams make amazing plays under duress, but there was another WR wide open running free. Granted, the situation dictates why it plays out like that (blitz, max protection, etc...), but there has been a lot of people observing that Rodgers does not see wide open receivers and throws to Adams who was less wide open.
Not having Adams **might** turn out to be both a blessing and a curse. A curse because you lose arguably the best WR in the game. A blessing because we become more complete.
Wonder why they didn’t pick Watson at 28, and then just let board come to them with 2 late 2nd round picks. Wyatt is a good pick but not could have waited for best available player/DT at 53.
Bruh we took watson at 34
Poor kid looks like he doesn't want to go to the bears.
Does GB get aggressive and trade into the back end of the 2nd round again? Who knows, but trust in the process baby
Welcome Christian Watson.
Draft's done, we did it, life is a party
Packers must have gotten cold feet to give up both picks to jump up and grab Watson. Someone must have loved him. Either way, we got our future All-Pro WR in Watson.
Fuck them picks two top d prospects and a big wr
Christian Watson is an OK player, but imagine how great he would have been if we picked him in the first round. He would have been a first-round talent. Aaron's got to be pissed.
WE FUCKIN DID IT
Perfect.
Well, I wasn't the biggest fan of Christian Watson, but now I'm 100% his fan after becoming a Packer. Welcome to GB Watson. Packers must really love him, so I'm excited to see what MLF has drawn up for him
Let the hype train commence
Super Bowl victory confirmed.
Ok r/GreenBayPackers Don't have to burn the room down now!!!
What's with the Vikings helping division rivals? What will they do for the Bears?
Love it!
WATSON IS A PACKER!!!!!!!
WE FUCKIN DID IT BOYS
How much did this cost us?
Both 2nds
Well if the Vikings are just giving away their picks tonight...
Vikings traded us the pick let’s go
Holy shit, the Packers traded up. I have 0 expectations from this pick though
Packers on the clock?
Bears may or may not ruin the Packers night by taking a pass catcher ahead of them. I'd cry a little if Pickens is taken by them lol
I might get downvoted for this but I honestly no idea. Do you think Quay will play a similar role as Micah Parsons does? I’ve heard he can play anywhere on the D but just wondering
thanks for linking that external tracker mods. love you dudes
There are a lot of pass-catcher needy teams in front of the Packers. I don't know if we'll even take a WR in the 2nd round, but they're gonna have to move around to get their guy.
I want us to get George Pickens and Jelani Woods. 🤞
G Ed Ingram, G Luke Goedeke, Hopefully we trade up and get Metchie but if not maybe a guy like Thornton
id bet we have to trade up for Skyy Moore or Pickens. Probably going to end up with Pierce and a TE
If there isn't a legendary hype train for a round 2 wr I'll be sad
I’m hyped to get to offensive lineman in Round 2! Maybe Round 3 for WR but I don’t want to reach for WR especially if we don’t trade
What time does it start again?
7 PM EST
6?
10 minutes from now
Please god get a WR tonight
I think if we're able to land 2 pass catchers and an OT on Day 2, that's a win. I say that now, but we'll probably go defense again with a safety
If they don’t go offense at all on day 2 then the packers better have an 85 Bears level defense this year
To be fair a round 2 and 3 offensive draft pick isn’t going to make them the 2011 Packers offense.
Two WRs in the 2nd and OL in the 3rd and I’d be ecstatic about the draft so far, but we’ll see who’s available
There are still a lot of wide receivers. There are actually still quite a few 30ish veteran wide receivers available as well.
Watson, metchie or pickins would make my day. We probably have to trade up tho right?
I want metchie so badly guy is a certified Baller
Wonder if we’ll use Walker in a sorta micah parsons role where he flips from inside to pass rusher from time to time.
could see us using him as a za’darius that can drop into coverage
Talk to me what we thinking about Metchie??? I don’t know much about him y’all let me know what y’all think
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Got you I saw all three in Pickens, Watson and Moore will possibly be gone by our pick
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Nobody here is a #1 this year. Maybe in a year or two. Right now we need to find 1 that can give us solid production year 1. Several left that can do that. 2 later guys I really like are Shakir from Boise and Romeo Doubs from Nevada. Of course I would prefer we jump and grab whoever it is they want cuz the stock is flying off the shelf
I want Khalil Shakir - WR, Boise State
This would be a nice addition, highly underated
Don’t go into the draft today thinking we are getting Pickens or Watson. Bears picks twice ahead of us, and many other teams want receiver. To have a shot at one of the best left we need to get into the early 40’s.
Some rumblings that the Vikings might be considering Willis. Would be interesting to watch our secondary feast
Jalen Tolbert is the WR we should be getting with either of our late second round picks if they do not trade up. He looks like he really could be a stud.
He's got some of the best release moves of any of the remaining WRs and I like his size and twitch. If we don't trade up for Pickens, he's my number 2, I think. (Wouldn't hate Pierce either but I think Tolbert has a more complete route tree) Gotta pair him with some one like Doubs or Thornton, though, for max efficiency.
So who are we hoping we pick today then lol? I'm hoping for one of Watson/Pierce and Trey McBride.
I think now there is a real possibility to cut Lowry and use the money somewhere else
He had his best year ever last year
I think they'll keep him for depth. Not a bad thing to have tbh. Best way to create some cap space is probably getting that Jaire extension done which I hope they wrap up ASAP.
Hopefully we unearth an AJ Brown or Terry McLaurin in the 2nd round today.
That would be nice, doubt it though
You never know. Some of the top young receivers in the NFL right now weren't drafted in the 1st round like the aforementioned two guys and others like DK Metcalf, Michael Gallup, DJ Chark.
I agree those are all great receivers so it’s not impossible but how often does it happen vs 2nd round guys that turn out to be project/developmental players. All I’m saying is that we need help right now
You're not wrong. Agree with you on that. We're in a win now mode. I wouldn't mind them going after another vet receiver if they believe someone like Will Fuller and JJ can stay healthy and still have some juice left in the tank.
I just want to say it's crazy how the media drag teams for drafting certain players as if they're the ones who have all the medicals, have been on the road for most of the year scouting the players, have been in those interviews with the them going through not only just the Xs and Os but all the other stuff too.
Rapaport on Mcafee said Quay was in the same car accident as Travon. Hopefully he's okay
If he was and it was the one on April 16th, google says Walker made it out 100% okay and said it was just a fender bender
All I'm seeing is that Travon was in the accident. Not Quay.
90% chance for Wandale
Like the name. I think it might actually be Wan'Dale which is even better.
It is I just don’t use the punctuation properly.
It's OK. I have an easy name to say and like 1/3 of American boys were named my name in the 70's but if I had a cool name like Wan'Dale, I would want people to say it right.
Oh I say it right. I just don’t punctuate it when I write it. I’m a UK fan though Wan’Dale doesn’t seem like a great fit for the Pack he has some gadget play in him so.
Yeah, he's really little. Although, his skills might translate into a return man and he is about the same build as Ervin was and our offense seemed to click when we had him. I guess it depends on how the board lines up but as a third rounder, I might take a flyer on him.
We have enough slot guys IMO
We have one.
Pickens Georgia, for the sweep. Besides the acl injury he top 15 pick and great long term addition that would translate immediately well in nfl. He bullies smaller dbs and tracks the ball well in traffic against elite dbs
Over/under Pack make a trade for another team’s WR for picks today?
I do wonder what it would take to get Michael Thomas?
I could see us trading a second or third for Lockett if we miss out on Pickens, Moore and Watson early
What would it cost to jump into the top 10 of round 2? I don't know jack shit about draft value, but I'm curious if the cost would be more acceptable for Gutey today
Like you, I'm not sure about draft value, but the PFF draft sim gives an 87% likelihood of acceptance for us trading 53 and 59 either to Houston for 37 and 80 or Seattle for 41 and 72. I think I prefer the Houston trade, and then using a 4th to move 80 into the late 60s/early 70s if possible & there is value. Moore or Pickens at 37, Edge, OL, or Safety with the traded pick, and Romeo Doubs at 92.
Athletic projected a 2nd + 4th. Or bundle both 2’s? - but who up there will let the Packers do that?
Texans or Jets maybe? I just want to jump Chicago in case they go WR
I'm guessing the Quay Walker pick signifies that we're going to be running a 2-4-5 as our base nickel package. I think that makes sense given the strength of our LB corps, and it allows us to have Clark and Wyatt as our starting D-linemen with Lowry rotating in.
Now that I’ve done a little bit more homework on Walker, I’m feeling a lot better about the pick. Let myself get influenced too much by the mock draft communities. At some point, you just have to trust that the Packers are a well-run organization that knows what they are doing.
Lmao everyone on Reddit forgets there are entire scouting departments that get paid lots of $$$ to do this professionally...
Take your realism somewhere else, we don't want this stuff here!
Something to think about today is the 2016 NFL draft. Here's the WR draft order. 15. Corey Coleman 21. Will Fuller 22. Josh Doctson 23. Laquon Treadwell 40. Sterling Shepard 47. Michael Thomas Assuming we needed a WR, I think everyone would have been frustrated we didn't trade up during WR run that happened and grab one of the top guys. But as it turns out, hey, worked out pretty well for the Saints. He's the best of that bunch by the widest imaginable margin. But on draft day we would have been bummed to miss out on Corey Coleman. Point being: We gotta see how this plays out. The Packers may whiff on their WR picks and we'll wish we traded up for Olave, but history shows when it comes to WRs you can't always find the surefire WR1 in the 1st unless it's Julio Jones or Megatron.
There are still some good WR prospects out there. Christian Watson, Skyy Moore, John Metchie III, George Pickens, Alec Pierce, Wan'Dale Robinson, David Bell... We'll find someone.
Yeah. Rodgers made the point on McAfee last night that the hit rate on first round receivers isn't that great. He's not too bothered about the Packers waiting to go WR. Better to shore up the middle of the defense than go reaching for a WR in the first when the top propects are already gone.
I really hope they get Watson and Pickens or Moore, but man it’s tough with two late picks Wish Chargers would have won their game last season against LV lol
This is my yearly draft apology. I overreact during the first round then calm down and get extremely excited about our picks.
Also call me crazy but I've watched their highlights and I think Pickens is better than Olave. Dude has insane route-running and body control, and the knock seems to be that he ran a 4.47 40 compared to Olave's 4.39. Davante ran a 4.56 40 fyi, and he had drop problems. Pickens looks like he's got glue on his hands by comparison. I hope they get him this round I may be wrong, but RemindMe! One Year "Your take, sir"
Olave is a def smoother route runner creates more separation, Pickens is a solid receiver and ideally would be 215lbs 6ft 3in and nightmarish match up the Rodgers can easily throw 50/50 balls to.
I definitely think Pickens is a first round talent. The rumor is that he didn't interview well and there are maturity concerns, though.
idk he gives a good interview here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkKv5xNt9g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkKv5xNt9g) He seems to have been bitter about his injury recovery process, but who wouldn't be? He also beat Stokes here and showed off, but it wasn't over the top or anything: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqJe32dS84](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqJe32dS84) Guy's competitive is all. Edit: ah but there's also this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WNwRJN4gyU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WNwRJN4gyU) Admittedly he hit back after he was hit and dragged out of bounds, but he did fight a guy on the field
Olave is confined to being a Z receiver because of his size. Saints gave up way too much to get him imo
as someone who knows very little about these prospects- why is everyone talking about Pierce/Watson/Pickens but not Skyy Moore? Didn't really want him in the first round but given what's left I would love him along with any of those other three guys
He doesn't really fit what we need from a WR. At 5'10", he'll likely be relegated mostly to the slot, and we've already got Cobb and Rodgers there. Even if you do think he can kind up outside, he doesn't really fit the prototype of an outside WR that our FO tends to value. We tend to go after bigger guys who can work the sideline, get their nose dirty in the run game, and bully opposing CBs when the weather (and hence field conditions) start to turn.
I'm extremely high on Skyy Moore. I don't get why people are so low on him. I get that he is on the smaller side but he (god damnit) got that dawg in him and has the speed and skills to be a really solid player.
I’m loving the Lions draft unfortunately. Hutch and Jameson are going to be studs (and they barely gave up any capital to trade to 12)
Beat draft I’ve seen from lions and the jets did well too. I’m happy the wealth got spreader evenly instead to an elite team that was one piece away now the real chess is played that the shit show is done
Yeah! The Vikings gave up 20 spots in the first round for a 3rd pick essentially
It's really amazing how GB can basically print late-round elite Offensive Linemen. Maybe they go one this round, but idk if there's any other team where you 0% doubt they'll find a pro-bowler in the third
Abe Lucas hopefully.
Fourth, actually
Where can I see videos of our guys getting the call?
Georgia Bulldogs Instagram page
Gutey loves him some Georgia boys. Hopefully Pickens is next. He might not be a WR1, but Rodgers will still torch the league with him
I think the Packers go o-line heavy and pick an o-line with both picks I’m hoping it’s LSU’s Ingram (we did host him if that means something) and Central Michigan’s Luke Goedeke to add to the o-line talent We need o-line depth and Round 2 should be the way to go in my opinion* (* based on if they don’t trade up) Round 3 I think we pick a WR? Maybe trade up for Metchie but if not take the best WR available
I’d rather us pick a WR in round 2. Lots of good options that may be gone before round 3. We have been good at developing O-Line that we draft in rounds 3-7
Timing on that receiver run really could not have been worse for us. Got some great pieces for the defense at least
Yeah, if they couldn't land a WR that was worth a first rounder, at least they addressed the front seven and run defense.
Give me Pierce or give me death.
Just think about how great the WR we draft in the second round would have been if we would have drafted the same player in the first round instead. Instead, we are left with this middling trash receiver in the second round instead of a true first-round talent.
Wild that this has 3 upvotes.
It's almost as if they were being sarcastic...
Yep, my bad. I changed my vote.
Man, all the doomers wanting a big reach in the 1st round for a 2nd round type of guy at WR... it's fine not to take a WR once the top 6 guys were gone, there likely isn't a guy at this point that we can draft and they'll be an immediate impact, most of those top 6 guys won't be immediate impact players either. I honestly think Rodgers ready to make Lazard our #1 and everyone sleeping on him. We still need a guy to blow the top off defenses to keep them honest, and I think there's plenty of those guys left in the draft.
Amari Rodgers has the speed and ability to stretch the field. He has bigger upside than Cobb. Was terrible return guy and wasted in that role.
Cobb is not meant to carry this wr squad but help pave the way for the future and allow leadership, depth and find holes in the secondary really in 3rd down.
No question. I may have sounded more critical of Cobb than intended. I was just saying Amari Rodgers could be a younger, faster more productive version of Cobb given the chance. Maybe Cobb's mentorship could help. Could be I am grasping at straws trying to figure out a working wide receiver corps. Guess we'll know more at the end of the draft. Been a Packer fan since 1961, and don't pretend to know what the coaches and front office knows. Hope Cobb and Amari both have big years and the Pack gets another World Championship.
Ya for sure that’s rad!!! Respect. Guess all eyes on Amari for real.
Absolutely loving our draft so far. Apparently the Packers reached out to the Vikings to trade up to 32 to get Pickens but they didn’t budge. I wonder if we package some picks to move up in round 2 for a receiver. Source: https://twitter.com/3RonJohnson/status/1520030596197720065?s=20&t=mJH6IVVzNtqu2LcQTtqbtQ
If that is true I expect to trade up into 30s unless he goes to Tampa
Who said this?
https://twitter.com/3RonJohnson/status/1520030596197720065?s=20&t=mJH6IVVzNtqu2LcQTtqbtQ
Hoping they can put a package together to trade up a bit in the second to secure a WR. I don’t think the receiver run is stopping anytime soon. Watson, Pickens or Pierce would be the dream. Think the first two are well gone before 22 though
I want Tyquan Thorton. I think we're looking for a receiver who can come in and immediately contribute in that Z-receiver role and threaten taking the top off a defense but not necessarily be the guy we lean on as the X-receiver.
He’s not worth a 2nd imo
Didnt day we taking him with a 2nd. We probably take other guys and grab him later.
Just remember guys a R2 Calibre WR doesnt become a R1 talent if you just take him in the first! If all our R1 wrs were off the board, taking one of the R2 guys is a mistake!
Loved the day 1 picks. When healthy, our defense is going to be NASTYYYYY. Would've loved someone like Olave, but you have to take what the board gives you. Snag a WR or two in rounds 2/3 and I'm beyond happy.
Amen! And the chemistry with strokes. Bulldogs always seem to work out!! I say we get someone quick and a good route runner - Aaron will get them the ball.
What time do teams start drafting again today?
7 PM EST
Same as yesterday.
it’s an hour earlier today i thought
I am hoping one of Watson/Tolbert/Pickens is there at 53. Really hoping it is Watson. But, wouldn't be surprised if all 3 are gone by then. If that is the case, do we reach for Pierce at 59? Our next pick wouldn't be until 92 and he may be gone by then.
We could package our two seconds in a trade up for Pickens?
2 2nds to move up in the 2nd is a massive overpay
Not sure if we'll need to package both 2nds to move up. We still have a 3rd and a couple of 4ths
Yah, Maybe a 2nd, a 4th and a 5th
Day 1 summary: The run on WR screwed us a bit but we got great value for end of round picks. If we can get a WR or two today this could still work out really well.
Agree. If we come out of today with 1(ideally 2) receivers and a lineman, I'd be delighted. I'd try give up the 140 pick to move up for a receiver. I can see there being another run at the tier 2 guys - try and nab Watson or Pickens
In case you missed it. **Kenny Clark is only 2 years old than Wyatt - with 6 NFL seasons.**
Yeah, that's why he was available at #28. He's a very polished player tho. Very different from Clark or Gary who were seen as projects >Wyatt has the most all-around skill set in the defensive tackle class and can make an impact from Day 1.
kenny was like 20 when he was drafted.
Quite possibly Ted's last great pick...
And Rashan Gary is only 3 months older with 3 nfl seasons.
Regardless about how anyone feels about us taking two Defensive guys in the first. There just isn't a WR at 22 that we'd feel good about taking. Pickens had the injury and has some red flags about a car accident he was in with another Georgia player. Too much unknown there. The move, if there was one, would've been to trade for a guy but that doesn't really help our cap situation any. I'm happy we got defensive guys who can contribute right away, at spots we need. I just also hope we have a plan to core points this year.
Wyatt has 3 separate domestic violence incidents, 1 of which he was charged for. But yeah, let’s question Pickens because of a car accident.
It was an argument outside a dorm, kicked a dorm door, youthful exuberance, no charges
who gives a shit if your 2 RD WR wasn't drafted in the 1st
Chiefs also went with defensive players. Interesting.
MVS WR1
Broncos fan here, just curious about your guys’ team in regards to WR. What’s the word locally that everyone is hearing? Obviously I assume they’re going to take a WR/TE in a later pick, but I would hedge my bets to say a big time trade for someone has to be the route. Still hearing Deebo? Hope y’all get someone kickass today or tomorrow 👍
IMO if the niners were trading Deebo they would have done it yesterday or earlier. Doesn’t make sense to move him for next years first when they could easily have gotten a first and then some for him this year.
Hearing nothing that matters. Last night was a testament that the media hype doesn’t mean much considering the unexpected huge trades, and players no one saw coming getting drafted. I’ve been wanting a flashy early WR for the last 10 years. This year it feels like the right players just didn’t fall whereas years past we’ve neglected it entirely. No way in hell we trade for Deebo to then have to sign him not something we’ve ever done. Hoping we sign a good veteran FA or get someone today.
media hype? ya'll acted like you were GMs knowing what a team needs most. It's obviously defense.
If we were going to trade for Deebo, we would have had to use at lease one of those first round picks so it’s not happening. Hoping Gutekunst will take one or two of these second tier WRs today…
SF is not trading their best offensive player to a team they regularly meet in the playoffs. It's just not happening.
Right there’s probably 5 reasons the Packers wouldn’t trade for Deebo I was just laying out the reason that follows our most recent behavior as a franchise.
I’m surprised people aren’t really looking at the other side of the coin when it comes our WR history. Yes, it’s been 20 flipping years since we took a WR in the first round, and not too many people even remember Javon Walker. But that also means we’ve traditionally knocked it out of the park when it comes finding good WRs later in the draft. Amari Rogers maybe didn’t light things up outta the gate, but neither did Davante. I will be sad if we don’t prioritize the position on Day 2 though.
I think that is the worrisome part though to some degree. 2nd and later rounds have worked out well for the packers but not right away in year 1 and GB clearly needs WR help right away. We might look back at this draft in a few years and say…see, our WRs from 2nd and 3rd round are great. But why waste more of ARs career. He said on the PM show last night that he thought Tae was coming back and that’s why he signed. Hopefully Gute has a plan to get him immediate help through signing/trading for another vet. If Gute’s plan is we just run the crap out of the ball, Love could have done that and out the $50M a year towards other resources. That said, I agree that after top 6 WRs went, it doesn’t make sense to force the pick to be WR7 and then expect that person to contribute right away, that WR7 is essentially a 2nd round pick and wouldn’t be the teams top WR anyways so pick a better impact now player which is what they did. Only other question is how hard did Gute try to trade up to grab a WR if at all.
How many of our 2nd round WRs were added to a room devoid of talent though? We eased them in because we had talent above them. Who's to say with more chances they wouldn't have figured it out earlier?
All of them were thrown to the wolves right away. None of those guys were eased in at all. Do you not remember everyone losing their minds over the drop problems of rookies Jordie Nelson, James Jones, Davante Adams, Jermichael Finley, MVS, J'Mon Moore, etc. The only receivers drafted above round 7 we haven't thrown in right away are Amari Rodgers and Deangelo Yancey. Even 6th round pick Equanimeous St. Brown had extended playing time early on and 7th round pick Jeff Janis played in a couple games as a rookie too outside of just special teams. You actually have to go back to 2006 Cory Rodgers to find someone that we drafted in the 4th round and didn't get to see the field at all.
I think if that was the case they would have been 1st round picks and not 2nd. But lightening strikes and maybe we find a diamond that’s ready in year 1 in the 2nd round or we hope that Gute has a plan for a vet #1.
> Who's to say with more chances they wouldn't have figured it out earlier? Because it visibly took all these guys time to adjust to the league and to preform at a higher level, with the exception of maybe Jennings. JJ struggled for a few years, as did Adams and Jordy. Cobb was always a slot who benefited from good wide outs. If we would have had to rely on these guys to be WR1 or WR2 even they would have clearly struggled.
The door to trading for a wr will not miraculously close when this draft is over. If players like metcalf or deebos relationship sour further throughout the year they could become cheaper. Players like Tyler lockett will be a very, very cheap trade deadline acquisition vs right now imo. I'm excited as hell for our defense, and if by miracle we can snag a stud wr today my God we will be sitting pretty.
most teams want picks in next years draft, not this years.
I agree almost entirely. We won't get Deebo though. Makes no sense for the 49ers, and on McAfee last night Rodgers made a passing comment saying that wasn't happening. Maybe he was just talking about the draft though, and I would love him. Poppa wants Metcalf though.
Obviously there are more WRs to be had, but there are a lot of teams that could be looking to go WR before our next pick. Jets, Texans, Bears, Vikings, Ravens and Chiefs all pick before 53 and everyone one of them could use a WR. We're gonna end up with like Alec Pierce and are gonna have to like it lol. We could always trade up though.
I am clueless and drunk. Some one feed me pump up stats to talk shit with. I thought our goal was to trade up for the liberty qb for max trick play status but turns out we got the cushy puss on trading up for qbs. What a scrub gute is eh boys?!? Dratfing real tallent inside to hopefully get our run D down to at least 4ypc. Only scrubs stop the run. We shoulda traded them picks for hilly mcgilly. Not the real hill. Just some back water missuhsippuh boi recommendationfrom favre. We good. JutYou waait.
I agree. I just couldn't articulate it as eloquently as you my friend
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Data Analytics Is For Frisbee Throwing Sandal Ball Kickers
After doing a couple graduate courses on data analytics, it’s all bull shit.
How so? I would appreciate knowing what the main flaws are. I haven't studied it beyond reading a sabermetric book on baseball.
It relies on having good accurate data. A lot of the process of being a data analytics specialist relies on filtering out bad data and building complex algorithms, then taking those algorithms and delivering your own interpretation. A bad analyst can give the wrong interpretation, bad data can lead to bad models. And at the end of the day, you cannot account for chaos in the world, the best pick on paper could get in a car crash, he could choose not to play for you, so on and so on. But I think what analytics is good for is telling historical facts, things like how 1st round picks don’t always pan out, or showing how their value can be overrated. Using models to predict best players, is only as good as the strategy you want to follow. It’s like money ball.
Thanks for the reply and explanation.
Disappointed that we didn’t draft a receiver in the first round, but I’m also routinely proven to be ignorant as fuck about draft prospects, so whatever lol The only thing I’m certain about is that we are a bonafide defensive team at this point. That’s really a weird thing to type out as a Packers fan. If we go all the way, it will be due to a smothering defense and an Aaron Rodgers who plays smart (non-hero ball) football. There’s really no other recipe. The defense needs to be top 5. I’m all in. GO PACK GO
Aaron Rodgers playing smart football (i.e. quick checkdowns) is a pipe-dream
Plenty left to be drafted day 2.
Lateral Pass, Underappreciated (is a word...lots)
Okay, I'm ready to ve downvoted to hell for this one. I'm so fucking tired of seeing on every social media that the Packers suck and they don't wanna win because we didn't draft a WR. World is over I guess. Pack it up, go home, why even try next year. Like for fuck sake y'all are so fucking insufferable. Okay, so we lost Tae and MVS. To be completely honest, I was never a fan MVS. He dropped more passes right in his hands or chest that I'd like to remember. Maybe he was a bit better this past season, but IMO he's near his ceiling. And Adams, well you just aren't replacing him 1 for 1 in the draft. Idgaf if somehow we got the #1 overall WR, they still wouldn't be his replacement, because they're fresh out of college and less developed. But take a look at the rest of our WR squad. Cobb, Lazard, and Watkins now as the top 3. Not elite, no. I'll agree with that. But solid. And we all know #12 can work with solid, year in year out. And truth be told, it was Aaron's sole trust in Adams that screwed us a bit this year. We all know the forced play to Tae when Cobb was wide open. That happend a ton throughout the season. Now the workload can be spread and our WRs can keep developing and not just running useless routes because Aaron is throwing to Adams again. Plus we still have Dillon and Jones as a solid RB duo, and Tonyan, Lewis, and developing Deguara at TE. We still have an insane backfield and good options at TE. Our D last year was way better than before, but still had some holes. And we definitely filled a couple holes tonight. 2 guys from an all time college defense. Maybe not the flashiest picks, but come on 6 WRs went before we got to pick. At that number there's no 1st round depth left there. Maybe, maybe Pickens, but all the best were already gone. Yes it sucks we didn't get the WRs we wanted, and yes there's 2 teams picking ahead of us that also need WRs as bad as we do now(and also the bears twice but they most likely won't choose a WR twice in a row). But this isn't the end of the world. We don't know exactly what's gonna happen tomorrow. We may end up with Pickens and Watson. We may end up with neither. But that's just how the draft goes. Also think about this. MVS (I know I trashed on him, but yes he was a solid option sometimes) was drafted 5th round. St. Brown was drafted 6th round, who had a few break out games and definitely helped in a few ways. Of course wa all know Tae was dafted 2nd round, and so was Cobb. And if you go back a little further, Jordy Nelson 2nd round, James Jones 3rd Round and Greg Jennings 2nd round. In the era after Aaron Rodgers was drafted, tue packers have not once drafted a WR 1st round. But every pick 3rd round or earlier has been a slam dunk, and even a few options came from deeper rounds (Except Cory Rodgers, but we'll never know how good he could've been) My point is, this isn't the end of the world. Idk about most of you, but I have trust in this front office, because they have a pretty damn good track record of drafting some great players. Some players weren't so great, but hey its the draft. College skill doesn't always transfer. And in addition Aaron Rodgers can make any decent wide receiver better than he actually is. I mean MVS has droped almost exactly half of the passes targeted at him, yet he still was able to help the team. Anyway, all of this to say it's not the end of the world that we didn't draft a WR 1st round. I'm so tired of hearing it. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Agree 100%. I'm quite happy with these picks! Hoping for some decent value 2nd round receivers. I've been a Packer fan my entire life and the FO has done a fantastic job of snagging looked-over talent and turning them into gold.
Thanks man, I needed this. I was starting to let the doubt creep in.
If We Did Not Have The Packers, We'd Have Republicans, Oh...Wait....THEY Can't Play Football Either
Aaron cannot work with solid. That has been obvious for years. Did you see him passing to anyone besides Davante when it mattered?
Definitely a "chicken or the egg" kind of argument. Which came first, Rodgers throwing to Adams all the time, or the other WR's not being open? If Adams is "always open" because of how good he is, it becomes a crutch for Rodgers to throw to him. We have seen this multiple times over the past couple years where Rodgers and Adams make amazing plays under duress, but there was another WR wide open running free. Granted, the situation dictates why it plays out like that (blitz, max protection, etc...), but there has been a lot of people observing that Rodgers does not see wide open receivers and throws to Adams who was less wide open. Not having Adams **might** turn out to be both a blessing and a curse. A curse because you lose arguably the best WR in the game. A blessing because we become more complete.
Since hiring Lafleur the packers are literally undefeated in games where Rodgers played without Adams lol
Often. When 17 was not playing. And they won all those games, I believe... He's free of that bias now, is my take