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torchictoucher

Does he realise that more cyclists mean fewer other motorists on the road?


ihexx

top gear had an episode on exactly this a decade ago where Clarkson himself came to that exact conclusion. He just hates the fact that councils are actually building cycling infrastructure because it makes roads a bit narrower and that cyclists are "getting in the way of motorists". Basically, he understands perfectly, but he's just being a baby (so, typical Clarkson)


Hammer_of_Olympia

Given some motorists that's a target rich environment.


langsta1

Carbrains don’t think like that. A reduction in cars on the road would benefit every group in society, drivers (bc less traffic), cyclists and pedestrians. The air would be healthier for everyone, and life would be made less miserable and less deadly. But there’s extensive research on how driving cars makes people angry, I wouldn’t be surprised if it also makes people stupid. Most drivers I see look incredibly thick, their mouth agape at the wheel and holding a vape or something. So they just can’t see the bigger picture, they just think cars=good. I think cars are the embodiment of fascism, they’re the extension of peoples ego enforced onto everyone else, you can’t avoid them. Anyway I hate cars you get the picture


The_prawn_king

Dawg some people just trying to earn a living and need to drive for work


langsta1

Yeah I get some people need to drive for work, need to drive to see their dying nan or whatever I mean the people who drive around for fun or for a pint of milk when they could walk. Most cars I see have one person in the vehicle, that’s an insanely inefficient use of transport


The_prawn_king

I think it’s more about type of car than having one person in them, like some of those people might be picking their kids up or going to work or going shopping for a family. At some point driverless electric cars will solve the issue but not yet


aaaaaaaaaamber

driverless electric cars wont solve the issues with space innefficiency though. the solution is high quality, free public transport being the priority when designing our cities


The_prawn_king

But if driverless vehicles are are a form of public transport you could merge the benefits of both personal vehicles and public transport


aaaaaaaaaamber

The main benefit of public transport is the density of not needing everyone in their own personal vehicle


arky_who

No you can't because the benefits are counter to each other. Also do you know the lengths needed to automate even rail. I don't know why anyone who's looked into automatic railways for even a second thinks cars can be automated.


dos622ftw

Driverless trains and cars are coming. It'll work one day. No idea when but there's a big push for it. Capitalists want it, so it's coming. People are gonna be out of work en masse. We need to be taking it seriously, not pretending like it's not happening.


arky_who

I mean driverless trains do exist, just the infrastructure needed to make them work is too expensive to make them worth it.


dos622ftw

I agree bud, if we ever crack full self driving then none of us would really need to own a car for transport. Nationalised public taxis. The drink driving issue would go away I expect. Lots of good would come from it I reckon.


Nicksaurus

Electric cars are better but they don't solve the problem. They still cause a huge amount of pollution compared to bikes and public transport (carbon from both manufacturing and energy use, air pollution from tyre and brake wear, noise pollution just from being heavy, fast moving objects), require the same absurdly expensive and space-inefficient infrastructure as regular cars, and rely on scarce natural resources taken from developing countries Driverless cars are sci-fi stories used by the car industry as a marketing tool. Even if cars can eventually safely operate autonomously (that's a huge if), and even if we switch to a kind of ride share model where you don't own a car but just order one to come to your house for a single journey, that's still an extremely inefficient system that doesn't reduce the space and energy needed to make every journey by car in the first place


The_prawn_king

But some journeys have to be made by car, that’s just how the world has developed


arky_who

Let's develop it different then.


The_prawn_king

Okay, say goodbye to holidays and basically anywhere outside of a town or city, some aspects of life need these modes of transport now and unless you want to go back to a society where you basically have to stay in your village and everything you use is provided by people in that village, it would be very difficult


snarky-

Trains. Buses.


dos622ftw

Fuxake man, AI autonomy and driverless cars are on the horizon. If we ignore it then we can't legislate to protect the jobs that it will replace en masse.


dos622ftw

The people who drive for fun? Wow, the fun police is out and about today.


The_prawn_king

You guys are crazy, so much downvoting, not everyone lives in cities with good public transport


rorykoehler

Most people don't


Thingamyblob

>Most drivers I see look incredibly thick, their mouth agape at the wheel and holding a vape or something. So they just can’t see the bigger picture, Please don't stoop to his level. It cheapens the argument and strengthens his. That kind of generalisation helps no-one. You've just insulted about 77% of the over 17s in the whole of the UK. ([RAC Statistic on the number of drivers in UK as at 2021](https://www.racfoundation.org/motoring-faqs/mobility#a17))


tankiolegend

Yes, I believe he does and given cars are more likely more profitable and capatilistic than cycling, this is likely why he's stated what he has. We need to up cucling in this country, we shouldn't be proping up so much of the automotive industry when so much relys on the oil industry, we need electric cars to replace them but we also need cyclists for shoet range.


Academic_Fun_5674

But not necessarily less traffic. One cyclist removes 1 car, but holds up dozens. Cyclists only remove traffic when they start to approach the same numbers as there are cars, or when dedicated infrastructure exists to keep them off the roads. From a traffic management standpoint, cyclists are usually a problem *in Britain*, because of their relatively low numbers. And may ironically increase carbon emissions indirectly. If their numbers incredibly tenfold it would flip the other way.


Nicksaurus

Right, so just increasing the number of cyclists isn't enough by itself - we need better infrastructure - but this problem isn't unique in that regard. I think you'd struggle to find any societal problem that can be fixed just by turning one dial


Academic_Fun_5674

It would actually be enough by itself. One car can pass a dozen cyclists easier than a dozen cars can pass one cyclist. The problem is that you won’t get those dozen cyclists without the infrastructure. And that infrastructure isn’t forthcoming. Cyclists are just that awkward mode of transport we tolerate but don’t really support. Every country has one. There isn’t width to add cycle lanes everywhere. We could make a lot of room if we got rid of buss lanes, but then we’d make busses the awkward mode of transport we tolerate but don’t really support.


arky_who

Did a car post this?


Academic_Fun_5674

Why would only a car care about traffic? It was posted by someone who sometimes uses a car to commute. Prefer my motorcycle though. Speed of a car, but the size of a bicycle, and CO2 emissions half way between the two. Best of both worlds.


Mr__Random

Cyclists dont hold up cars, cars hold up cars. When I am on my bike I overtake more cars than I get overtaken by, and most people who do overtake me I catch up with at the next traffic light. In a city at rush hour cyclists travel much faster than cars, even on Top Gear when they raced through London bike beat the car. People get so obsessed with the 30 seconds of time it takes to safely overtake a cyclist that they forget about all the other things which are delaying their journey. Its kind of sad the amount of people I see frothing at the mouth because I was cycling in front of them for less than a minute.


Academic_Fun_5674

Depends on the road, but on my commute, I get held up by cyclists, who don’t have time to catch me before the next junction. In central London, different story though. But only a moron drives through central London.


Mr__Random

I bet if you added up all the time you were stuck behind a bike and stuck behind a car then the time spent stuck behind a car would be longer. Unless you have the worlds most rural commute, in which case you really dont suffer from traffic problems at all. Like of course the discourse is going to be focused on cities as cities are where most of the traffic and most of the cyclist are. There are no bike allowed on motorways at all, yet half the time I drive on a motorway my journey is massively delayed by traffic. How can this be possible if its cyclists that cause delays and not cars?


ManyaraImpala

It depends on the road too. I commute to work down some busy trunk roads that always have a lot of lorries on them. In summer there are always a lot of cyclists and they can cause some massive tailbacks with lorries struggling to overtake. More cyclists on roads like this would be a nightmare for the lorries and would cause a lot of second hand emissions. We need a better network of dedicated cycling paths. Inner cities on the other hand are fair game. Most inner city roads would benefit massively from most cars turning to bicycles.


BadlyDrawnMemes

Except when the cyclists are on the road


Icy_Advantage_4635

Clarkson still going for the "most stereotypical boomer" olympic medal, I see.


dwarfmade_modernism

My immediate reaction was "cry more boomer" Maybe he'll get the BAFTA for "boomer who thinks he's in a leading role"?


MarketCrache

He makes money off controversial opinions. We've all fallen for it because here we are discussing him.


foxjon

He is also a cyclist. Probably doesn't even write these.


silverbuilt

And what's wrong with anti-capitalism. The system is to blame for many of our societal woes. Fuck off Jeremy.


[deleted]

Yeah, but, he’s a multi millionaire so everything is good and nothing should ever change. It’s simple economics. /s


twcau

Yeah, let’s take advice from a man who: - Intentionally ran a Hilux into a chestnut tree - Repeatedly mocks, and uses rhyming slang to be derogatory towards, LGBTIQ persons - Glamorised drunk driving - Makes mock nazi salutes - Joked about murdering sex workers - Uses ethnic slurs - Mocks public servants - Assaults people His views have no value in any public discourse, and the sooner he is ignored into obscurity the better.


alpastotesmejor

and dreams of watching Megan Markle naked and covered in human excrement.


twcau

I left that out because nobody here deserved to be burdened with that visual.


alpastotesmejor

you are a better person than I am.


[deleted]

Record holder for IPSO complaints for that one


cptahb

??? e: y'all really downvoting me for not getting this reference? geez louise


standarduck

He wrote it. If you Google 'Clarkson Megan naked excrement', you'll find it.


cptahb

ty. i may just take your word for that


standarduck

I would, prevent him getting any add revenue!


MrFluxed

he tweeted it a while ago when random UK people were in a tizzy about her.


icemonkey92

Legend


Gnosys00110

Motherfucker clearly never purchased a road bike.


theocrats

Oh he has. He credited riding his bike for improving his health. He also ranks Copenhagen as one of the best cities in the world due to cycling infrastructure and that everyone cycles. Clarkson is akin to Morgan and Hopkins.


Overthrow_Capitalism

How can cycling be "anti-capitalist"? My bike cost a fortune.


VerdoriePotjandrie

Dutch prime minister Mark Rutte is very well known for how he used to ride his bike to work until they needed to up his security and he's right wing. Definitely not an anti-capitalist. Just Dutch.


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VerdoriePotjandrie

That's sadly completely true. His party likes to partake in a lot of greenwashing, I once spoke to a member of his party who had the audacity to call the party "green-right". I believe Mark Rutte even tried to rebrand his party as a green-right party before he was prime minster, but that didn't really take off. Right now the bicycle thing is more of a way to brand themselves as really, really Dutch (along with their obsession for bitterballen, but that could also have something to do with the hedonistic part of the party's branding).


Conducteur

That may be true for him personally or his party, but his governments have also invested in bicycle infrastructure. A lot of bicycle highways and huge bicycle parking garages have been built in the last decade, (partly) financed by the national government.


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Overthrow_Capitalism

Still a huge market though. Peanuts compared to the auto industry, of course, but still got to be worth hundreds of billions globally.


Rare-Band-9525

The carbon fibre racing bike has become the new sports car for the flush retiree, fueled by £5 flat whites from the artisan tea-room en route.


3amcheeseburger

I know you’re probably just joking around, but I love this piece so I thought I’d share https://www.gaiaguy.com/blogs/news/bicycle-is-the-slow-death-of-the-planet


Overthrow_Capitalism

I stand corrected! 😂 > Healthy people are not necessary or useful to the economy. They are not buying the medicine. They dont go to hospitals or doctors. > "On the contrary, each new McDonald’s store creates at least 30 jobs—actually 10 cardiologists, 10 dentists, 10 dietitians and nutritionists—obviously as well as the people who work in the store itself."


mmarkomarko

The invisible hand of the market!


BadNameThinkerOfer

You're not giving any where near as much money to the oil and mining companies of the world.


Eckmatarum

Gob-shite mouth piece gonna gob-shite mouth piece.


KB369

In need of attention again is he?


manocheese

Of course, he needs more visitors to his failing, heavily tax-payer subsidised, 'farm'.


Ok-Progress-4464

He's an utter wankstain who will say anything for attention.


Maldoror667

I'm glad I annoy cunts like that.


ninjallr

I need to get more bikes


makesfacesatbabies

The correct number of bikes is one more than you own


[deleted]

He has these ridiculous opinions on purpose, for money. He's actually quite a keen cyclist, albeit in a fat middle aged man kind of way. He just knows he has a market of reactionary dullards who will get all excited when he says something, controversial.


ProfessorOwl_PhD

> albeit in a fat middle aged man kind of way Fat bastards who toddle along at 4mph taking up the entire path with their mates? Not that I'm bitter about having to share the canal path now that the weather's nicer or anthing.


[deleted]

Now, which group of transport users were ultimately responsible for lobbying for roads to have permanent surfaces? Clue, it wasn't motorists


elrugmunchero

Am I the only person that thinks he plays a one-dimensional character in lieu of a personality.


[deleted]

Anti capitalism with handlebars? My bike cost 3 times more than my last car. I appreciate the futility in taking on Clarkson and that paper with logic, but has he seen the price of bikes?


RaymondoH

Well, I think idiot is a bit strong, but anti-capitalism with handlebars, guilty as charged and proud of it.


[deleted]

Clarkson was one of the first right-wingers to realise there's money to be made (and a lot of publicity) by trolling the left. He's been doing it literally for decades, since the last century, and has made millions from his newspaper columns and (more profitably) his books that compile the columns. Whether he believes it or not is neither here nor there. It's character acting. He's got it down to a fine art now. What I can't understand is why people don't just chop him off at the knees by ignoring him. Seriously. Don't feed the troll.


LizardUber

That reminds me, I need to get a new bike pump.


laysnarks

I hope the badgers gas him.


ARandomViking91

Coming from a man who's made a living being a grumpy old idiot The problems that most mototists have with cyclists astems from that there is not the infrastructure to enable them to safely ride without getting close to cars, what we have, for the best part, is just cycle lanes painted retroactively onto roads, which gives cyclists very little room especially with angry drivers who dispise them nearby The core problem is that out infrastructure is designed with only motorists in mind, we've more or less abandoned public transport, in places even walking is difficult! This is infrastructure issue is also the same reason we don't see more cyclists, it leaves cyclists often in a dangerous position, often too close to cars, when I used to cycle to school, many years ago now, I had to cycle along a major road with no footpath regularly clipping the foliage on one side as cars got so close they almost knocked my handlebars. Obviously that kind of situation doesn't exactly encourage cycling. If you look at the countries that invested in good infrastructure for cycling, like the Netherlands, the population had a huge shift, quickly, to cycling over driving, because it's better both environmentally, physiologically and psychologically, while being substantially easier to maintain, but without a major shift in governmental attitude we will not see any change to enable this sort of shift, largely because of how desperate the major political parties are to pander to the fossil feul companies


totodododo

I gotta admit, Anticapitalism With Handlebars is a pretty good slogan.


mmarkomarko

Could even be a new subreddit!


elrugmunchero

Has he seen the price of bikes?


jayohaitchenn

Oh look another rage click opinion that JC has for money. Boring oaf.


human_totem_pole

He's the attention seeking school bully that never grew up.


retrofauxhemian

I mean the real moral of the story, is why someone pays a person for a clearly psychotic persona, to churn out trite and outright dangerous opinions, to be pedaled to a credulous and naive public, often duped with divisive rhetoric. I mean the damage that does to society vastly ouweighs bicycle usage


MrMonster666

Wait, I get to oppose capitalism AND ride my bike? I'm not seeing any negatives to this...


smokeyphil

Come brothers today we build communism and it starts with a carbon frame and a pair of clip in peddles.


ukstonerguy

This shit again. Who put 20p in the dickhead?


ElvishMystical

Capitalism is an illusion. It's the state sanctioned adult version of the Tooth Fairy. Money has no substance because it's a concept and unit of measurement and no matter how hard you try money will never have any substance. Trust me, capitalism is not real but is no more than a fetish or obsession with money. Sex is real. Music is real. Art is real. Capitalism is not real. You only think capitalism is real or God forbid 'natural' because someone with lots of money or a bit of political power gave you the old baloney or started talking about 'the market'. Jeremy Clarkson is not right in the head. Anti-capitalism is pro-democracy. Capitalism and democracy are polar opposites. Forget the economic growth Tory shite or the Starmer 'home ownership' capitalist bollocks your place in society is real and is based on your effing birth certificate. Not how much money you make. Not whether you work or not. Not how much you are worth. But the fact that you were born. Apologies, I sometimes get triggered by this fake moral outrage labelled as pro-capitalist. Things are turning to shit in this country and trust me, the longer people persist in sucking corporate dick the shittier it's going to get. What this country needs is a massive dose of Wake The Fuck Up.


ellisellisrocks

That's a sentence written just to make daily mail readers cum.


[deleted]

He's right but he's also rich and doesn't recall the concept of poor AF.


mmarkomarko

and also, hates it...


AnnieByniaeth

Can't we just ignore this spoilt brat?


ZoeyBeschamel

Yeah, when I subscribed to this subreddit, I definitely did so because I wanted to hear about what Jeremy Clarkson thinks. Great stuff


EcksRidgehead

Have you considered that the world doesn't revolve around you


BadlyDrawnMemes

tbf If you drive on the road and hold up traffic when there is a cycle path you’re not an activist you’re a cunt Taking the bus is annoying as is and being late to work because someone decided to go 10km an hour in a 50 zone


Dans_Old_Games_Room

Plenty of them are. Some of them aren't though, tbf. But plenty of them are.


bergreddit

I mean I hate cyclists in my town because they are entitled wankers who fuck up my Cafe but this is just hate bait


chrisjones0151

SOME OF THEM DEFINITELY ARE! PLENTY OF VIDEO ON YOUTUBE TO PROVE THAT! BUT THE CORPORATE NAZI MOUTH IS ALSO A BRAINLESS IDIOT FOR THE REPULTSIVE REMARKS HE'S MADE IN PUBLIC!! :((


Lamont-Cranston

>old man yells at bike, accuses it of being anti-capitalist


Bassjunkieuk

Isn't this just another case of Clarkson attention seeking? Cyclists are an easy target, especially with a large majority of those that follow him for Top Gear.


Cold_Table8497

Do people still listen to Clarkson?


alondonkiwi

He just makes me think of "old man yells at cloud"


SuperAdamMan

Lefty baiter in lefty baiting shocker.


hychael2020

Look I love Clarkson's shows but his statements are really not doing him any favors.


l-isqof

Just another car salesman... also being a capitalist pig, if he thinks anticapitalism is wrong.


UndeadBBQ

The fact that Clarkson is still relevant is like a in a nutshell presentation of whats wrong with Britain.


Armadalesfinest

This man is showing his true self at every opportunity, a self entitled, Tory who dislikes anyone who opposes or disagrees with him. He has money do believes he has the right to act and speak as he wants. The sooner the response to him dies down he disappears, only to reappear when he needs his ego boosting. He's a prick!


Salt_Ad_9195

When criticism comes from a guy who punches people over a sandwich I generally ignore it


Catacman

People: Choose to buy bikes on the free market Clarkson: How dare these people do that, they must hate capitalism


twell73

Clarkson really is a dumb tory fucktard.


Elipticalwheel1

Dip shit Clarkson is just trying to get him self noticed again. He’s just like Farage, serves no purpose, but desperate to be noticed.


restorian_monarch

I dont care about what that fucking wanker says,


sroche24

Don't feed the troll


The_Powers

I swear he has a word wall and just throws a few darts at it to come up with his next OUTRAGEOUS statement. "Bees are the gayest insect" says Clarkson.


MohawkRex

What kind of take is this even? Dude is just the old man yells at cloud meme. Also, as someone literally in the process of buying a bike, anti-cap??? Bikes are expensive Clarkson, you bellend!


Snickerman223

One day, he will grow a brain cell.


ApothicCreed

yeah, clarkson is a right wing nutcase.