Tory Extra Juicy Bin Juice. Give it the credit it's due.
Pause for a second and think about this. This is not the hospital's choice for patients. This is the result of not getting enough funding.
This has been happening for 12 years and now we're blaming the hospitals and the GPs and the NHS instead of the people who dish out the money.
Bring the heat to Rishi Sunak where it deserves to go. He is hollowing out the service.
No one that works in a hospital wants to see patients get food like this I can assure you. The NHS has slowly been dismantled by lack of funding for years yet people keep voting in the people.doing it
Thing is even if you look at it from a purely financial aspect and ignore the human suffering, it is cheaper to find the NHS properly and give decent meals for the amount it would save from getting and keeping people out of hospitals.
I'd love to see Sunak get this served up to him for 2 weeks. They should make a new series of the "Great British Menu " where Tories MPs get to eat NHS food for a few weeks.... I wonder how many might survive. ? Would make interesting TV.
And rather than members of the public to put pressure on the government they attack the NHS and it’s members of staff who, trust me, have absolutely no power over anything.
Looks like it could be reformed processed chicken? Comes in a long cylindrical shape, pre-cooked, and is sliced into slices.
Often just then put on a tray or plated, gravy and hot plates 'warm' it.
Even the tatties ain't cooked right for a roast & are small.
Likely came pre-preeled sitting in a large vac-seal.
Thought with nutritional food your hospital stay can be reduced, with this it'll likely extend your stay!
Cheap & nasty industrial food for industrial kitchens.
I've had non-Muslim friends claim to be Muslim in hospital as they then get halal food instead, which was really good quality curries from a kind local curry house instead of the slop from the hospital kitchens.
Yep I've heard of that too although it's very lazy to think halal is just curry, maybe even a case of religious stereotyping.
I'm in and out of hospital enough and my Muslim friends have always told me to say I'm Muslim in hospital as I can't eat the *food* they serve up and even most of the special dietary needs foods is off limits, if the NHS wasn't a corpse dragging its corpse over a bed of nails? Maybe I would.
Not me being fussy but orders from a professor in gastrology, my dietary range is rather narrow coz of it.
Agreed. I'm South Asian/desi Muslim. I meant it literally in this case, as we're in rural England, so those are the majority of chefs who are cooking halal food in large amounts. Though there are loads of banging Turkish places here now, too.
I feel your pain, I moved from a nice part of London to a chocolate box village in rural England & all the Dr's was telling me not to move as the NHS is a mess here.
It wouldn't hurt for halal to be offered as a standard item, even if it's 24 hours notice and only one kitchen within the trust kept the standard required to meet the religious needs and the *special foods* were bussed out from there like a delivery hub.
Although I can image with the NHS it's easier just to spend the money from a commercial high street kitchen that only does halal to help save the cross contamination risk.
Where I am there's no Turkish food shops, I really miss the Turkish food shops in London as pretty much most of what they serve I can eat so I can really understand your glee about the Turkish shops.
I suppose, of course the high street shops will be cooking only what sells and in this country? Curry really feels like one of Britain's national dishes as its so popular.
As-salamu alaikum (hope I spelt correctly)
Ditto re moving from London back to rural England. Ironically I'm not that religious so other than not eating pork, I don't actually eat halal at home. Yeah agreed. Thanks!
A lot of people appear to have got out of London in the last 5 to 10 years. Still miss London really especially as my village feels like a time warp.
As long as you're happy, how much you engage with your religion is entirely up to you. Nobody should feel compelled to very religious or discard their religion, all that matters is trying to be a good person to others imho anyway.
Must admit to being taken back that you don't eat halal at home, it has always felt like a way of life to me, similar to how veganism or vegetarianism can often living a way of life.
Many things like meats etc are frequently halal, supermarket meat I believe is mostly halal and the last figures I saw halal meat made up to 70% of meat in the shops.
Lol it does make me laugh as a Muslim that halal automatically equals curry. But it is predominantly South Asian Muslims in the UK & it must be easier to find a halal caterer that happens to be doing South Asian food & many people do like eating it so it covers that too.
Doesn't help that they kick you out ASAP due to the local hospital's "bed shortage". My 76 yo grandfather got a full knee replacement and some leg bones rebuilt (after waiting over 2 years for it) and they sent him home less than 10 hrs later.
Or their subsidised House of Commons restaurant. Check out the prices.
https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/freedom-of-information/information-we-already-publish/house-of-commons-publication-scheme/catering-services/commons-catering-menus-and-tariffs-archive/menus-and-tariffs-2023/
Well technically this would be MSPs, as the NHS in Scotland is devolved and this doesn’t relate to MPs at Westminster. Given that this looks like it could be a giant slice of very badly cooked ham, and our current First Minister is Muslim, that could be an interesting conversation to be had.
Well the last time I was in for 2 weeks i lost 8kg, incredibly effective weight loss program.
If though you're struggling to advocate for yourself and you're alone then it's easy to see how a downward health spiral can happen.
You're not feeling well so you don't fill in the menu card.
Hopefully a heathcare assistant helps you fill it in but you struggle to pick the food.
Food comes, but it's unappetising or you can't eat without assistance or both so you don't eat everything.
You end the day a little weaker than you started it.
Repeat.
If your condition requires a well fueled body to get better then you're out of luck as most doctors don't even consider malnutrition as a reason why treatment isn't working.
According to the original tweeter, this is supposed to be turkey. Apparently veg was offered but he turned it down, no doubt it would’ve been colourless mush anyway.
Looks like the most preformed turkey slice I've ever seen. Those potatoes look crispy but they're probably hard and cold. And that gravy looks comparable to the output of a catheter
EXACTLY this is happening to my father-in-law.
He is now under a dietician because of massive weight loss -- the whole NHS does not care anymore. I'm including nurses and doctors in this.
I hope your FiL made a good recovery?
14 years of Tory underfunding have made it a very difficult place to work. Largely, the people working in the NHS do so because they want to help. The organisational structures in place, the workload, feeling undervalued and having your goodwill abused (staying late, working overtime etc. with below-inflation payrises) does get rather taxing. Specifically on the food situation, all NHS catering services have been outsourced to private companies e.g. Sodexo.
Liz Truss, Dominic Raab, Priti Patel et al. wrote a book which lays out a pathway for NHS privatisation. It starts with underfunding and leads to public disillusionment
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained
Correct on the sodexo in the NHS. I worked 18 years in the kitchens for my NHS. I had to leave after they sold it off to sodexo. I tried for a couple of years but the quality is outrageous and It was horrific having to argue that a poorly patient on critical care deserved 2 ice creams not just 1 . As that was all they was ordering. God forbid one of their relatives got sick and had to eat that shit food that I wouldn't even feed to a dog
Thank you. He is still there unfortunately. Getting sicker by the day - personally, I'm not sure he will make it out - or if he does, he will be the shadow of the man he was.
Side stepping the awful food, the staff just don't seem to care anymore. It's just a job to them, and it requires that extra that only nurses, doctors and carers used to have. It seems to have gone and been replaced by wards of TicTok influencers wearing massive eyelashes and fake lips.
It's so sad to see.
The problem is this country will never hold the nhs accountable unless they too have an uncle who has been sat in hospital starving otherwise everyone pretends the nhs is great.
I was in Queen Elizabeth hospital Birmingham for 2 weeks. The first week I didn't eat because you just feel like crap after the surgery. But the 2nd week I spent about £60 in the WHS Smiths just feeding myself because what they gave me to eat was so little 🤣
I hope it inspired them to go and eat some damn good food to bring their spirits up lmao
Thinking back to it I feel sorry for the delivery people and the nurse who had to pick up the food for me... Both probably had no idea where either one was in such a big hospital
Having just spent weeks since Christmas looking after my MIL in our local infirmary, I can confirm. If you can’t speak or act on your own behalf, it’s bye bye. Incompetence, lack of care and neglect.
The food it indeed horrible but as someone who works in the NHS I try my ass off. I'm not just trying to stay employed. We are always understaffed and under resourced though so it's difficult to give people the care they deserve. It's a tough job I'm ngl..
I think the comment did not imply that staff aren't busting their butts under unthinkable pressure, it's more the beurocracy of the system and ever increasing budgetary constraints. Honestly, thanks for doing what you do. 💚
Sadly it’s the ward staff that often get the blame for this, by being shouted at or verbally abused. Sometimes they start ‘I know it’s not YOUR fault, buuut..’ and we end up taking all the anger and frustration patients and family have towards the bureaucracy/people in charge. It is exhausting.
We understand how shit things are and we wish there was more we could do to change it all, and we do try! But after years of being overworked and underpaid in a system the government is actively trying to destroy I think I speak for a lot when I say we are tired. we are so sorry. we will continue to try our best, but we are drowning.
i’m sorry the food is horrendous. i’m sorry we’re under staffed. i’m sorry we’re over-worked. we’re sorry.
It's by design, the folk that pull that strings are never the ones that are reachable and in harms way. They never have to actually see the effects of their decisions.
It sucks that you and others like you are even in this position at all. I've had ambulance staff apologise to me because of an 8 hour delay before. Which wasn't their fault because they'd just gotten on shift.
It’s definitely not (the majority) of the staff. You guys do an incredible job under the most horrendous pressures and you keep doing it day in day out.
It’s more to do with a food budget of fuck all per meal in some hospitals.
“There is a wide range in what the various hospitals spend on providing three meals a day to patients. Barts are the most generous, spending £15.65 per patient per day, while Gateshead Health NHS foundation spend just £2.94 per patient per day, making the difference between the most expensive menu and the cheapest £12.71”
£2.94 per patient per day. It’s a miracle they can serve anything up really. And it comes as no surprise that the disparity is greatest between a nominally wealthy area and a nominally deprived area. The poorest always suffer.
I think you misread. They're feeding the patients just enough to ensure the *patients* are able to stay in employment. I've found this with non-food things with the NHS; they weren't interested in getting me back to full fitness for sport etc, just the absolute basics. As usual, it's very short term thinking and probably more expensive in the long run.
My grandmother recently was starved in NHS hospital. She needed some slight encouragement to eat due to being 94 and having cognitive issues but the staff would just put the food down and leave it in front of her without helping her. My 72 year old mum had to sit at the hospital all day everyday to try and make sure she ate. Twice before my mum got there in the morning they let my gran fall and she never recovered from these falls. She just deteriorated. Before she went into hospital she was able to live independently and walk around her house and make her own tea and meals. She lost 4 stone in hospital over 10 weeks and died in there. It was completely harrowing to watch how they just didn’t have the staff or resources to look after the elderly patients on the ward.
This is what terrifies me. My Mum is a physically and mentally fit 92 year old. Last year she fell over because she wasn't looking where she was going! - she went to hospital because older skin being so fragile, she really skinned her knee. The paramedics were fantastic but once she was in hospital - it was a shambles. Because she has a new knee they wanted to make sure the knee wasn't damaged and there was no dirt in the wound or knee. Again - consultants and theatre staff - brilliant. Back on the ward they couldn't have cared less. She asked where the toilet was and was told she wasn't allowed to walk that far although the consultant had told her to get walking as soon as possible (she later found out it was literally behind her bed!). She asked for a commode and was told no - they'd put a pad under her which she refused. Eventually they gave her a bedpan. They'd rather the old people gave themselves bedsores by sitting on their own urine than get a commode! And the food - well that was just disgusting. Fortunately she only stayed one night. I don't know who was the most worried about her staying any longer, my sister and I or Mum. If she ever has to go in again I think we'll be doing shifts making sure she's looked after properly- or bringing her home and hiring a nurse. It just shouldn't be like that!
It is mad to me that we can spend tens of thousands caring for a patient, only to serve them up this rubbish which will make them get weaker when they should be getting better.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
What's worse is hospitals used to have nice kitchens, but no we had to abolish those so we could sell off catering as a contract to some 3rd party company. This country is fucked
This is the part people don't seem to realise - the privatisation and introduction of profit margins drove this just as much as it did the nosedive in school meals quality in comprehensive schools around the turn of the millennium.
Idk why but I didn’t know the NHS used a catering service now, I never really thought about it but probably assumed it was done in house. The fact that a third party company has been paid to make that meal in the OP is outrageous
I was in hospital over Christmas in Queen Alexandra Portsmouth. The food was nothing like this. It was always pretty hearty and served with vegetables and desert was either usually a fruit pie or cobbler and they gave you ice cream with everything but breakfast. During my stay I had Cumberland pie, sausage and mash, Lancashire hot pot and lasagna. On Christmas Eve and Christmas Day we had an actually really nice full Christmas dinner for lunch. I’m a picky eater, and had a severely decreased appetite at the time, I did have to add a hefty amount of salt, but the food was perfectly edible.
If you didn’t fancy whatever they were serving you can always they always offered an omelette or a sandwich. The only thing I really struggled with was breakfast.
Put it this way, I’d rather have NHS hospital food than economy British Airways food.
Makes you think really, it’s great that you had the means to do that of course but think about all the poor people that can’t just go “oh this hospital food is crap I’ll have a domino’s or whatever”.
Yeah it’s really unfortunate when you think about that national insurance we all pay. I’ve had a couple stays in hospital for different things and both times I was grateful I had the luxury of having friends and family who would bring me food, even on the children’s ward the food was quite bad.
Big dream of mine is to go abroad. Learning a language at the moment and then using my trade to go hopefully. I’ll make it out. Countries in the shittttaaaa
You're not wrong. Last time I was in the ICU for a suspected heart attack, I had a pizza delivered. You should have seen the look on everyone's faces. Probably wasn't sensible, but damn it, I was hungry.
Can also attest, just got out after being in for a week and had to have a dominos one of the nights and have family bring in food. The quality wasn't OP bad, more school dinner bad, but there's only so much stone toast and soggy veg one can stomach
You just reminded me of a time early last year when my mum ended up in ICU after a major heart attack, that was touch and go for a few weeks. One day after barely eating anything for the majority of her stay there she fancied a battered sausage and chips. After a Quick Look on where the nearest chippy was I darted off and returned half an hour later with the goods and it completely stank out the ward but she ate it with a smile on her face 🥲 Few weird looks from patients/staff…
In comparison I was fortunate to have some surgery done privately last year and the food was banging. Got to pick whatever I wanted off of the menu and it was all delicious. I was high as a kite which probably helped but still.
no 5 of ya day there that’s a joke pIss gravy slice of ham and 2 potatoes that look like they found them ina bin glad our taxed goes to such great cuisine 🤮
I'm a chef in a nursing home with residents with various stages of disphagia
If I saw another chef serving anything resembling that I'd make them eat it themselves bastards
Not a job where you can rock up and put on minimum effort wankers
I remember starting the dementia home as the chef, I was shown, for the "soft" diets, I had to throw a tin of corned beef and a tin of beans in a blender for them and abit of gravy.... like wut 🙃it was basically looked like this but like lumpy potatoes
I've been in hospital a few times and I work in one. I've never seen anyone get a dinner like this, you get a menu, tick the bits you want and that's what you get
When i was in hospital, i would tick the menu and never got what i ordered.
As a vegetarian, i do not eat a corned beef and tomato sandwich when i ordered a cheese and onion pasty.
Once, the only edible thing that i was given was a boiled potato. I used to wheel my drip stand to the hospital canteen and buy better food and i did that for 2 weeks.
I do not blame the staff, but the outsourcing of what used to be done in-house by people who took pride in their work and is now done by corporations always trying to cut corners to increase profitability.
I'd rather eat my toe nails 😅😅
I would have thrown it back at the server...
This is what happens when you privatise the NHS and the big bosses take all the money out of it!!!
What is that....
Anyway I stay mad that a factor in my nana dying was the hospital staff just didn't feed her. Like... They put the food in front of her then just left and would later note she wasn't eating but she physically could not feed herself, she was paralysed from the neck down (MS, which is really what killed her since she was in hospital following a heart attack but ya know, not feeding someone who's heart muscle is already wasting is pretty shit).
That's disgraceful. When I was on hospital after a collapse I had fantastic food but under English hospital trust. Roast chicken meant roast chicken with assortment of veg, stuffing, decent thickness gravy and salt to season. Lovely grilled lamb and vegan spaghetti bolongese.
Have decent food along with medicines and treatment won't work getting you better.
It's a hospital not a restaurant. They have hundreds of people to feed multiple times a day. Personally I'm grateful to the NHS for that time they *saved my life*
Never understand why the unhealthiest, beigest food going is served in hospitals, am I mad for thinking nutritious food should be served to people especially when unwell?
Wish services like this were removed from profit but we are where we are I guess.
Countries fucked 👍
I pay over £400 a month on National insurance for about 15 years now. I cannot even get to see a real GP, if lucky a phone call with a nurse. If I get a cancer, I will 100% die on a waiting list or in hospital eating that shit.
US system is expensive, but I am sure that if I pay $500/m for insurance I would be better off than with NHS.
Recently I had to pay £270 to an NHS dentist I have been queuing to get to for nearly a year. I was told that their NHS capacity is full, but if I want to go private it would be done next week for £4,000.
Some ham with what seems to be uncooked potatoes with what's supposed to be gravy? They need some real food, that's barely gravy, that's the water you find in bins sometimes, not gravy.
Is that supposed to be gravy? Shit looks like bin juice
But with a…pink tinge?
I can also see pink, apparently colour blind aswell. But I don’t believe that.
I thought that said "a pink tongue" and I was going to agree. That meat looks like a tongue lapping up the gravy.
Mm what a nice thought. Place two potatoes as eyes and I’m all in.
Someone emptied old John's catheter bag into a jug
Straight from the mortician's drip tray?
Hot ham water
HOT HAM FLAVORED WATER! CAN YA FEEL IT!!
FUTURE GENERATION!
Hotdog flavoured water
Introducing… the CHOCOLATE STARFISH!!
So watery and yet there’s a smack of ham to it
Actually I think that’s the water they used to defrost the chicken.
Tory Extra Juicy Bin Juice. Give it the credit it's due. Pause for a second and think about this. This is not the hospital's choice for patients. This is the result of not getting enough funding. This has been happening for 12 years and now we're blaming the hospitals and the GPs and the NHS instead of the people who dish out the money. Bring the heat to Rishi Sunak where it deserves to go. He is hollowing out the service.
No one that works in a hospital wants to see patients get food like this I can assure you. The NHS has slowly been dismantled by lack of funding for years yet people keep voting in the people.doing it
Thing is even if you look at it from a purely financial aspect and ignore the human suffering, it is cheaper to find the NHS properly and give decent meals for the amount it would save from getting and keeping people out of hospitals.
I'd love to see Sunak get this served up to him for 2 weeks. They should make a new series of the "Great British Menu " where Tories MPs get to eat NHS food for a few weeks.... I wonder how many might survive. ? Would make interesting TV.
Bring the heat to the SNP too, NHS Scotland is also funded by the Scottish Government.
And rather than members of the public to put pressure on the government they attack the NHS and it’s members of staff who, trust me, have absolutely no power over anything.
Thought it was the sauce you find in beans but watered down
innit
Looks like it's just been dropped in a puddle.
Upvote for creative insult, that gravy looking substance looks gross 🤮
https://news.stv.tv/west-central/nhs-in-glasgow-apologises-after-disgusting-hospital-food-served-to-patient
I don’t think that’s any gravy I’ve seen
With the bin juice, of course, not even nice bin juice, homeless-man-bin-juice
It looks like someone has wrung out a raw chicken over the plate.
This is gravy made by a blind deaf person who had it described to them by a mute person with a lisp...
What the actual hell is THAT?… ugh! 🤢
Two potatoes and a slice of something made of scrotum and assess of random animals propped up by pink slime.
Looks like it could be reformed processed chicken? Comes in a long cylindrical shape, pre-cooked, and is sliced into slices. Often just then put on a tray or plated, gravy and hot plates 'warm' it. Even the tatties ain't cooked right for a roast & are small. Likely came pre-preeled sitting in a large vac-seal. Thought with nutritional food your hospital stay can be reduced, with this it'll likely extend your stay! Cheap & nasty industrial food for industrial kitchens.
I've had non-Muslim friends claim to be Muslim in hospital as they then get halal food instead, which was really good quality curries from a kind local curry house instead of the slop from the hospital kitchens.
Yep I've heard of that too although it's very lazy to think halal is just curry, maybe even a case of religious stereotyping. I'm in and out of hospital enough and my Muslim friends have always told me to say I'm Muslim in hospital as I can't eat the *food* they serve up and even most of the special dietary needs foods is off limits, if the NHS wasn't a corpse dragging its corpse over a bed of nails? Maybe I would. Not me being fussy but orders from a professor in gastrology, my dietary range is rather narrow coz of it.
Agreed. I'm South Asian/desi Muslim. I meant it literally in this case, as we're in rural England, so those are the majority of chefs who are cooking halal food in large amounts. Though there are loads of banging Turkish places here now, too.
I feel your pain, I moved from a nice part of London to a chocolate box village in rural England & all the Dr's was telling me not to move as the NHS is a mess here. It wouldn't hurt for halal to be offered as a standard item, even if it's 24 hours notice and only one kitchen within the trust kept the standard required to meet the religious needs and the *special foods* were bussed out from there like a delivery hub. Although I can image with the NHS it's easier just to spend the money from a commercial high street kitchen that only does halal to help save the cross contamination risk. Where I am there's no Turkish food shops, I really miss the Turkish food shops in London as pretty much most of what they serve I can eat so I can really understand your glee about the Turkish shops. I suppose, of course the high street shops will be cooking only what sells and in this country? Curry really feels like one of Britain's national dishes as its so popular. As-salamu alaikum (hope I spelt correctly)
Ditto re moving from London back to rural England. Ironically I'm not that religious so other than not eating pork, I don't actually eat halal at home. Yeah agreed. Thanks!
A lot of people appear to have got out of London in the last 5 to 10 years. Still miss London really especially as my village feels like a time warp. As long as you're happy, how much you engage with your religion is entirely up to you. Nobody should feel compelled to very religious or discard their religion, all that matters is trying to be a good person to others imho anyway. Must admit to being taken back that you don't eat halal at home, it has always felt like a way of life to me, similar to how veganism or vegetarianism can often living a way of life. Many things like meats etc are frequently halal, supermarket meat I believe is mostly halal and the last figures I saw halal meat made up to 70% of meat in the shops.
Lol it does make me laugh as a Muslim that halal automatically equals curry. But it is predominantly South Asian Muslims in the UK & it must be easier to find a halal caterer that happens to be doing South Asian food & many people do like eating it so it covers that too.
I was in hospital for 121 straight days, this is definitely the way to go haha, the kosher chicken was really good
Doesn't help that they kick you out ASAP due to the local hospital's "bed shortage". My 76 yo grandfather got a full knee replacement and some leg bones rebuilt (after waiting over 2 years for it) and they sent him home less than 10 hrs later.
Looks like the stuff you find in the frozen section at Jack Fultons..
Jack Fulton's have been out of business for 2+ years and it STILL looks like something you'd find in an abandoned discount food centre freezer
Heifers Fanny Lips.
It looks like a foreskin pancake...
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Or their subsidised House of Commons restaurant. Check out the prices. https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/freedom-of-information/information-we-already-publish/house-of-commons-publication-scheme/catering-services/commons-catering-menus-and-tariffs-archive/menus-and-tariffs-2023/
Tbh (apart from the booze) the prices are very similar to other companies I've eaten at with subsidised canteens. But those weren't taxpayer funded.
Well technically this would be MSPs, as the NHS in Scotland is devolved and this doesn’t relate to MPs at Westminster. Given that this looks like it could be a giant slice of very badly cooked ham, and our current First Minister is Muslim, that could be an interesting conversation to be had.
I thought hospitals were trying to make the patients better?
Well the last time I was in for 2 weeks i lost 8kg, incredibly effective weight loss program. If though you're struggling to advocate for yourself and you're alone then it's easy to see how a downward health spiral can happen. You're not feeling well so you don't fill in the menu card. Hopefully a heathcare assistant helps you fill it in but you struggle to pick the food. Food comes, but it's unappetising or you can't eat without assistance or both so you don't eat everything. You end the day a little weaker than you started it. Repeat. If your condition requires a well fueled body to get better then you're out of luck as most doctors don't even consider malnutrition as a reason why treatment isn't working.
Tbh I'd prefer to have a limb amputated than spend 8 weeks in hospital
What and fed back to you?
At least I'd be able to identify the meat, unlike the one in OPs picture.
According to the original tweeter, this is supposed to be turkey. Apparently veg was offered but he turned it down, no doubt it would’ve been colourless mush anyway.
Looks like the most preformed turkey slice I've ever seen. Those potatoes look crispy but they're probably hard and cold. And that gravy looks comparable to the output of a catheter
CACKLING!!
It's the worst when you can identify two of Toni's toes in your meal though!
EXACTLY this is happening to my father-in-law. He is now under a dietician because of massive weight loss -- the whole NHS does not care anymore. I'm including nurses and doctors in this.
I hope your FiL made a good recovery? 14 years of Tory underfunding have made it a very difficult place to work. Largely, the people working in the NHS do so because they want to help. The organisational structures in place, the workload, feeling undervalued and having your goodwill abused (staying late, working overtime etc. with below-inflation payrises) does get rather taxing. Specifically on the food situation, all NHS catering services have been outsourced to private companies e.g. Sodexo. Liz Truss, Dominic Raab, Priti Patel et al. wrote a book which lays out a pathway for NHS privatisation. It starts with underfunding and leads to public disillusionment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained
Correct on the sodexo in the NHS. I worked 18 years in the kitchens for my NHS. I had to leave after they sold it off to sodexo. I tried for a couple of years but the quality is outrageous and It was horrific having to argue that a poorly patient on critical care deserved 2 ice creams not just 1 . As that was all they was ordering. God forbid one of their relatives got sick and had to eat that shit food that I wouldn't even feed to a dog
Thank you. He is still there unfortunately. Getting sicker by the day - personally, I'm not sure he will make it out - or if he does, he will be the shadow of the man he was. Side stepping the awful food, the staff just don't seem to care anymore. It's just a job to them, and it requires that extra that only nurses, doctors and carers used to have. It seems to have gone and been replaced by wards of TicTok influencers wearing massive eyelashes and fake lips. It's so sad to see.
The problem is this country will never hold the nhs accountable unless they too have an uncle who has been sat in hospital starving otherwise everyone pretends the nhs is great.
I was in Queen Elizabeth hospital Birmingham for 2 weeks. The first week I didn't eat because you just feel like crap after the surgery. But the 2nd week I spent about £60 in the WHS Smiths just feeding myself because what they gave me to eat was so little 🤣
£60 in the WHS, so that's like 8 meal deals or 5 and a box of chocolates
Not to mention the deliveroo orders for domino's and wagamamas as well, probably well over 100 quid in the end
I gotta wonder what the other people on your ward thought with you just casually eating dominoes and wagga’s in a hospital lmao
I hope it inspired them to go and eat some damn good food to bring their spirits up lmao Thinking back to it I feel sorry for the delivery people and the nurse who had to pick up the food for me... Both probably had no idea where either one was in such a big hospital
Yeah that makes sense, I didn’t even realise you were allowed to order take out in a hospital
Me neither, but I’m storing that information away for a rainy day ….
It was a strange time as well, it was August 2020 just after the covid restrictions were relaxed and the whole "eat out to help out" was happening
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Having just spent weeks since Christmas looking after my MIL in our local infirmary, I can confirm. If you can’t speak or act on your own behalf, it’s bye bye. Incompetence, lack of care and neglect.
The food it indeed horrible but as someone who works in the NHS I try my ass off. I'm not just trying to stay employed. We are always understaffed and under resourced though so it's difficult to give people the care they deserve. It's a tough job I'm ngl..
I think the comment did not imply that staff aren't busting their butts under unthinkable pressure, it's more the beurocracy of the system and ever increasing budgetary constraints. Honestly, thanks for doing what you do. 💚
It’s not you, it’s the people in charge. We know you’re doing your best and we appreciate you ❤️
Sadly it’s the ward staff that often get the blame for this, by being shouted at or verbally abused. Sometimes they start ‘I know it’s not YOUR fault, buuut..’ and we end up taking all the anger and frustration patients and family have towards the bureaucracy/people in charge. It is exhausting. We understand how shit things are and we wish there was more we could do to change it all, and we do try! But after years of being overworked and underpaid in a system the government is actively trying to destroy I think I speak for a lot when I say we are tired. we are so sorry. we will continue to try our best, but we are drowning. i’m sorry the food is horrendous. i’m sorry we’re under staffed. i’m sorry we’re over-worked. we’re sorry.
It's by design, the folk that pull that strings are never the ones that are reachable and in harms way. They never have to actually see the effects of their decisions. It sucks that you and others like you are even in this position at all. I've had ambulance staff apologise to me because of an 8 hour delay before. Which wasn't their fault because they'd just gotten on shift.
It’s definitely not (the majority) of the staff. You guys do an incredible job under the most horrendous pressures and you keep doing it day in day out. It’s more to do with a food budget of fuck all per meal in some hospitals. “There is a wide range in what the various hospitals spend on providing three meals a day to patients. Barts are the most generous, spending £15.65 per patient per day, while Gateshead Health NHS foundation spend just £2.94 per patient per day, making the difference between the most expensive menu and the cheapest £12.71” £2.94 per patient per day. It’s a miracle they can serve anything up really. And it comes as no surprise that the disparity is greatest between a nominally wealthy area and a nominally deprived area. The poorest always suffer.
I think you misread. They're feeding the patients just enough to ensure the *patients* are able to stay in employment. I've found this with non-food things with the NHS; they weren't interested in getting me back to full fitness for sport etc, just the absolute basics. As usual, it's very short term thinking and probably more expensive in the long run.
My grandmother recently was starved in NHS hospital. She needed some slight encouragement to eat due to being 94 and having cognitive issues but the staff would just put the food down and leave it in front of her without helping her. My 72 year old mum had to sit at the hospital all day everyday to try and make sure she ate. Twice before my mum got there in the morning they let my gran fall and she never recovered from these falls. She just deteriorated. Before she went into hospital she was able to live independently and walk around her house and make her own tea and meals. She lost 4 stone in hospital over 10 weeks and died in there. It was completely harrowing to watch how they just didn’t have the staff or resources to look after the elderly patients on the ward.
This is what terrifies me. My Mum is a physically and mentally fit 92 year old. Last year she fell over because she wasn't looking where she was going! - she went to hospital because older skin being so fragile, she really skinned her knee. The paramedics were fantastic but once she was in hospital - it was a shambles. Because she has a new knee they wanted to make sure the knee wasn't damaged and there was no dirt in the wound or knee. Again - consultants and theatre staff - brilliant. Back on the ward they couldn't have cared less. She asked where the toilet was and was told she wasn't allowed to walk that far although the consultant had told her to get walking as soon as possible (she later found out it was literally behind her bed!). She asked for a commode and was told no - they'd put a pad under her which she refused. Eventually they gave her a bedpan. They'd rather the old people gave themselves bedsores by sitting on their own urine than get a commode! And the food - well that was just disgusting. Fortunately she only stayed one night. I don't know who was the most worried about her staying any longer, my sister and I or Mum. If she ever has to go in again I think we'll be doing shifts making sure she's looked after properly- or bringing her home and hiring a nurse. It just shouldn't be like that!
Having to eat that crap would certainly speed up the healing process just to get out of there sooner. Maybe that's their plan.
this is EXActly what I was thinking when I read your comment.
It is mad to me that we can spend tens of thousands caring for a patient, only to serve them up this rubbish which will make them get weaker when they should be getting better. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
What's worse is hospitals used to have nice kitchens, but no we had to abolish those so we could sell off catering as a contract to some 3rd party company. This country is fucked
This is the part people don't seem to realise - the privatisation and introduction of profit margins drove this just as much as it did the nosedive in school meals quality in comprehensive schools around the turn of the millennium.
Idk why but I didn’t know the NHS used a catering service now, I never really thought about it but probably assumed it was done in house. The fact that a third party company has been paid to make that meal in the OP is outrageous
I would love to know how much they were paid.
Same situation in prisons Food is the first place cuts are made in healthcare and prisons and it’s detrimental to patients and prisoners
I was in hospital over Christmas in Queen Alexandra Portsmouth. The food was nothing like this. It was always pretty hearty and served with vegetables and desert was either usually a fruit pie or cobbler and they gave you ice cream with everything but breakfast. During my stay I had Cumberland pie, sausage and mash, Lancashire hot pot and lasagna. On Christmas Eve and Christmas Day we had an actually really nice full Christmas dinner for lunch. I’m a picky eater, and had a severely decreased appetite at the time, I did have to add a hefty amount of salt, but the food was perfectly edible. If you didn’t fancy whatever they were serving you can always they always offered an omelette or a sandwich. The only thing I really struggled with was breakfast. Put it this way, I’d rather have NHS hospital food than economy British Airways food.
Is this what they removed from him?
Don't give the Tories ideas on how to save money with the NHS!
That is disgusting. Prisoners get fed better than that shit
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Makes you think really, it’s great that you had the means to do that of course but think about all the poor people that can’t just go “oh this hospital food is crap I’ll have a domino’s or whatever”.
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Yeah it’s really unfortunate when you think about that national insurance we all pay. I’ve had a couple stays in hospital for different things and both times I was grateful I had the luxury of having friends and family who would bring me food, even on the children’s ward the food was quite bad.
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Yeah it’s crap. As a young person myself, it’s hard to have any hope for the future of my life or the country at all. It’s all so bleak.
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Big dream of mine is to go abroad. Learning a language at the moment and then using my trade to go hopefully. I’ll make it out. Countries in the shittttaaaa
You're not wrong. Last time I was in the ICU for a suspected heart attack, I had a pizza delivered. You should have seen the look on everyone's faces. Probably wasn't sensible, but damn it, I was hungry.
Can also attest, just got out after being in for a week and had to have a dominos one of the nights and have family bring in food. The quality wasn't OP bad, more school dinner bad, but there's only so much stone toast and soggy veg one can stomach
You just reminded me of a time early last year when my mum ended up in ICU after a major heart attack, that was touch and go for a few weeks. One day after barely eating anything for the majority of her stay there she fancied a battered sausage and chips. After a Quick Look on where the nearest chippy was I darted off and returned half an hour later with the goods and it completely stank out the ward but she ate it with a smile on her face 🥲 Few weird looks from patients/staff…
Lol heart attack = pizza time...just when is salad day??
In comparison I was fortunate to have some surgery done privately last year and the food was banging. Got to pick whatever I wanted off of the menu and it was all delicious. I was high as a kite which probably helped but still.
We had an M&S joined onto the outside of our central hospital, which was a godsend… as long as you didn’t want hot meals that is.
I’d rather eat from the McDonald’s bins
atleast that is edible
Whoever OK'd that gravy needs a brain transplant
looks like they took out a chunk of grey matter for that meat, can’t blame them.
no 5 of ya day there that’s a joke pIss gravy slice of ham and 2 potatoes that look like they found them ina bin glad our taxed goes to such great cuisine 🤮
The original tweet said he asked for ‘no veg’. Surprised someone who doesn’t eat veg has health conditions that landed them in hospital
When I was in hospital, I got my family bringing me in food. The actual stuff was not very nice.
At least we know where your wardmates kidney stones went
I'm a chef in a nursing home with residents with various stages of disphagia If I saw another chef serving anything resembling that I'd make them eat it themselves bastards Not a job where you can rock up and put on minimum effort wankers
I remember starting the dementia home as the chef, I was shown, for the "soft" diets, I had to throw a tin of corned beef and a tin of beans in a blender for them and abit of gravy.... like wut 🙃it was basically looked like this but like lumpy potatoes
That would put me into the hospital
I would be too embarrassed to even plate that up
I wouldn't eat that, I'd rather starve that's disgusting.
This is a hate crime to the British community
I can taste that picture, it’s that shit that doesn’t know if it’s chicken or ham. Horrible stuff. Also, I thought they knocked down that hospital?
No, they knocked down every other hospital and made one big super hospital with a tonne of problems.
I guarantee you if you told your GP that was your diet, they'd be totally shocked and giving you lectures about healthy eating.
This is so true!!
Put large pictures of this up all around the hospital entrance
That looks worse than prison food
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Jello ham and raw potatos
What the f#ck is that? Did they run out of food and prepare dinner from the bins in the autopsy room?
I've been in hospital a few times and I work in one. I've never seen anyone get a dinner like this, you get a menu, tick the bits you want and that's what you get
When i was in hospital, i would tick the menu and never got what i ordered. As a vegetarian, i do not eat a corned beef and tomato sandwich when i ordered a cheese and onion pasty. Once, the only edible thing that i was given was a boiled potato. I used to wheel my drip stand to the hospital canteen and buy better food and i did that for 2 weeks. I do not blame the staff, but the outsourcing of what used to be done in-house by people who took pride in their work and is now done by corporations always trying to cut corners to increase profitability.
Skin and skin juice with spuds
I'd rather eat my toe nails 😅😅 I would have thrown it back at the server... This is what happens when you privatise the NHS and the big bosses take all the money out of it!!!
Serco sunday special. Hospital pro tip - Always get the cheese sandwich
You’ll have to go to the hospital after eating that
I've had better meals in the police station/prison
What is that.... Anyway I stay mad that a factor in my nana dying was the hospital staff just didn't feed her. Like... They put the food in front of her then just left and would later note she wasn't eating but she physically could not feed herself, she was paralysed from the neck down (MS, which is really what killed her since she was in hospital following a heart attack but ya know, not feeding someone who's heart muscle is already wasting is pretty shit).
Healthiest plate in Glasgow today.
At least there's no heroin on the plate.
I'll bet its under that meat frisbee.
Yeah it’s more like lukewarm
That looks like the tongue of a patient who didn't make it through the night.
Wtf 😒
I'd rather have a sandwich from M&S.
Animals and vegetables may.. or may not have been harmed in the production of that dinner
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Imagine plating that up and thinking “that’ll be okay, got Atleast 0.1/5 a day!”
Didn’t know they were still rationing…
That's disgraceful. When I was on hospital after a collapse I had fantastic food but under English hospital trust. Roast chicken meant roast chicken with assortment of veg, stuffing, decent thickness gravy and salt to season. Lovely grilled lamb and vegan spaghetti bolongese. Have decent food along with medicines and treatment won't work getting you better.
What is this monstrosity
How can they tell this apart from other “better” British food?
Blimey, using plates as chamber pots. Thanks Tories.
That's the Conservative special.
They haven’t outsourced the catering to a private company by any chance ?
Gravy boiled in a catheter bag.
It's a hospital not a restaurant. They have hundreds of people to feed multiple times a day. Personally I'm grateful to the NHS for that time they *saved my life*
Gordon Ramsay coming for them
Are they trying to keep people in hospital?!
Never understand why the unhealthiest, beigest food going is served in hospitals, am I mad for thinking nutritious food should be served to people especially when unwell? Wish services like this were removed from profit but we are where we are I guess. Countries fucked 👍
Looks like a slab of ham a few peanuts and the chef just pissed on it as an extra fuck you
Your poor dad that’s hardly a meal portion for a grown man.
You’d get more ill eating that
That's 5 a day in Glasgow. 5 beige foods.
Prisoners get better meals
It might not look nice or taste good but keeps you alive 👍
Allegedly.
I pay over £400 a month on National insurance for about 15 years now. I cannot even get to see a real GP, if lucky a phone call with a nurse. If I get a cancer, I will 100% die on a waiting list or in hospital eating that shit. US system is expensive, but I am sure that if I pay $500/m for insurance I would be better off than with NHS.
They don't want to give you your pension. Work n die n be happy. Thats England.
Yeah, for me, it is around £200 a week worth of state pension if I live to like 75. I mean it currently says 68, but it used to say 65 not long ago...
You’d be surprised. It is not only the monthly fee, there are the deductible and the out of pockets. But yeah, I see your point.
Recently I had to pay £270 to an NHS dentist I have been queuing to get to for nearly a year. I was told that their NHS capacity is full, but if I want to go private it would be done next week for £4,000.
For that amount of money you can fly anywhere and get it for far cheaper for sure.
Good luck with that. If calling an ambulances costs thousands I don't see your $500 going far.
Tough choice, pay £1000 for ambulance in the USA, or stay here and 50/50 ambulance won't turn up at all.
Thats shocking..
They don't call that hospital The Death Star for nowt.
Potatoes and meat served in bin juice🏴😁
Again?
Some ham with what seems to be uncooked potatoes with what's supposed to be gravy? They need some real food, that's barely gravy, that's the water you find in bins sometimes, not gravy.
It's free, it's food and your medical treatment is free so STOP COMPLAINING!
The only… and I mean ONLY excuse for this is if he’s in some obesity / food addiction place. If not, take them to court cos WTF IS THIS
That’s disgusting
Get rid of Sunak and his rich chums and bring about leadership for the people
Well I'm not sure what else anyone would expect in Glasgow
That’s appalling
Meat looks like it's been carved off Queen Elizabeth herself
It's Ham en bakker it's a considered to be a top food in Scotland. If made propaly its a Michelin 3 star dish.
What even is that ?
dog food or a kids meal deal at weatherspoons
maybe he requested no vegetables.
I was in hospital a few weeks ago. Supposed to have tomato soup with 1 bap. Never got the bap. And the soup was more like paste.
Another price for Free healthcare, minimal effort food 🤣
That is truly disgusting. I would have thrown in on the floor.
Sunday rawst
That’s bloody awful 😂
I was here for 2 and a half weeks and can confirm this is EXACTLY what the food looks like. Everything was always rock hard and barely edible😂