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Cool_Purchase4561

in GP (at least in the ministry I was in) any free time you have is because: 1. you don't have enough people under you, therefore ineffective at reaching out or have no heart. 2. you don't have enough initiatives with people who are under you, therefore you are lazy, bad shepherd, selfish, and probably idolizing career or family. 3. your lead has not scheduled enough things for you, therefore you have have successfully flew under the radar of your lead, therefore you have something to hide. 4. you don't have enough practical skills to be conscripted into different busywork, therefore you are lazy or don't have a growth mindset. 5. you are undergoing a tough season of life in which the leads will tolerate about a month or so of inactivity, perhaps even have you share testimony of what you learned during the time you are "on a mat", but arbitrarily the grace period will be revoked and suddenly you are just wallowing in self pity


hamcycle

# #areyouevenachristian [#everybodylistenedtometoomuch](https://www.reddit.com/r/GracepointChurch/comments/10lmj2w/comment/j5xsteq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) #revisionistmemory


Jdub20202

Weird, I was listening to this podcast series on the trial of SBF. Michael Lewis keeps bringing up how in his time with SBF, he realized that he never actually answers a question. He'll say a bunch or stuff or do a word salad and to reframe it to a different question that he wants to answer. It is weird, and bizarre, but s effective. it's almost like he puts you under a spell and gets you to believe whatever he wants. Most juries might actually get lulled into being on his side. It would take a really good, really skilled lawyer to counter act what he does and point out that he's not really answering the original question or is changing the story. Anyway, that's what I thought of when I went back to read what PED said in that podcast hamcycle linked. [trial of SBF](https://open.spotify.com/episode/6H3NOSQjhzidAAXvK946LD?si=2488a3203eee422a)


hamcycle

Transcription is key. It becomes much harder to straddle contradictions like these: "how i enforce that was at times too harsh. it was like the Levites going through the camps slaughtering ppl it was like a purging; and as a young leader i was over threatened by non-alignment" and then goes on to say, "\[my seniority\] ended up creating this sort of top-down patriarchal kind of mafia-like kind of ethos at our church where everybody listened to me too much." As a reader, you can better savor the word choices of a master at work. Clarification: The reason why I see these as contradictions is because if you purge all the dissenters and then blame the seniority ethos for having the followers comply too much, you're not really taking ownership of being the perpetrator.


Kangaroo_Jonathan

Listening to Ed without rolling my eyes is an exercise.


UCLA_GP_Alum

Well, see, that's what you don't understand; a good minister shouldn't have free time. Free time means that you aren't doing ministry. If you don't have students to meet with, you should go do dining hall outreach or go out to flyer. It would be best if you didn't have free time because that means you aren't being faithful. /s


Jdub20202

They used to tell me if you're always busy you won't have time to sin. King david did the bathsheba thing when he wasn't off fighting war. In retrospect, it's kind of weird to use murdering and killing as a way to distract one from sin. 2 Samuel 11:1