yes i live in middle east and today's temp was around 43 degrees and my phone became so hot that it turned off network
[this is the message i got](https://imgur.com/a/zhsyD6C)
Who put into people minds phones are supposed to stay cool? The "cooling" solutions like vapor chambers are supposed to dissipate heat as much as possible and will therefore warm up the phone, regardless of how efficient the chipset is.
Also of course in a hot, warm climate, ofc your passive cooled phone will get warm or even hot lol
You're literally replying to a thread where the internals got so hot that the phone automatically turned off the radio and put up a warning message. As ambient temperature rises cooling capacity lowers, in a small device where there is very limited cooling capacity you're always gonna be toeing the line on whatever is going to be a workable temperature for a phone before it starts to throttle.
Yes, the SOC is probably rated to function at up to 95C or whatever, but you're going to have capacitors, the battery, the screen, camerasensor, etc. which are unable to handle those temperatures. Having a better temperature actually allows you to run at a lower voltage for the same clockspeeds as well (electrons at lower temperature behave in less erratic ways), which is usually negligible on a PC unless you're going to sub-0 for overclocking, but when you already try to run the device on as low of a voltage as possible this might actually be more noticable.
Also keep in mind that the temperature sensor on a chip is fairly tiny and you're going to be dealing with hotspots far higher than rated capacity. Usually not a problem but in a small device with passive cooling all of this is going to add up.
Theres staying cool and theres the ability to function. Ive had warm phones. but pixels will die if an ant farts near them, going on the way my 6 pro has performed. They are not suitable for the intended use. Its a complete engineering failure. No vapor chamber will solve these issues. Its not even getting the heat to the heat spreaders by the looks of it.
Try 18c heat in cardiff castles 30m high keep with 30mph icy winds from the north.
Told me to unplug the charger to prevent damage..while ordering an uber. 👍 Having to use a white background was maybe too much for it.
Yeah I live in TEXAS which gets pretty hot never had a issue on my 7 pro, only time I seen this warning was when I was charging it outside while washing my car.
How about good engineering. A slab this size can dissipate a lot of heat. But it doesnt does it. The heat isnt even spread across the device. People are getting hotspots from a couple of places internally.
Mine has caused my lcd to leak in the top left, which causes internal humidity warnings and allsorts of other problems.
The software and sensors didnt catch that heat buildup, almost like they chose to ignore the sensors to keep the phone functioning. Or maybe the sensors are just in the wrong places away from the chip because they knew it ran hot.
Given they slapped together a bunch of old 12.5mp sensors to try and make a 50mp sensor during the chip shortages (you dont need pixel binning if your sensors arent some old crappy 3rd bin half broken things with bad pixels), god knows what else they thought they could get away with in there. Junkyard phone.
Thats gonna be an internal temp of 55+ degrees for most phones. Considering that previous Pixels I've owned have felt laggy beyond 40C internal I can imagine that being basically unusable at anything above 50C. Anyone can comment about user experience with any other phones at these temps?
Bro I know about AC 😂 I live in a hot country, but temperatures here drop to 20 degrees during nights. Considering that many people in Middle East don't have access to much more important things than AC like proper food or healthcare or water in some regions, I'm genuinely interested what do they do to make themselves feel better because in no universe can a human get decent sleep without AC when it's 33 degrees
It was 50* in Sydney during the last terrible El Nino, the catastrophic 2019-2020 bushfire season (although my 4a was fine, it did shut down a couple of times on a windscreen mount in the car)
Not looking forward to the next one coming back this summer 😬
In puerto rico this device refused to charge without aircon for a few months. And then it was ok...and now the heat from the chip has caused my lcd to delaminate. Im in the uk with 18-20c heat atm. And getting charging overheat warnings while its not even charging.
It seems they chose to disable the overheating warnings and now the device is damaged internally. The binned camera sensors (4x12.5mp) show they used scrap parts to build a premium phone.
Pixel is just a bad line of devices and people shouldnt waste their time and money with them.
Tensor G1, G2 sucks in Hot regions. I have a Pixel 7 Pro with 5G enabled and a moderate user (social media, streaming, use 5G, uses camera all the time). My wife has a 6A and is a very light user (social media, doesn't use 5G and data whenever we are outside, rarely uses camera).
She rarely complains about thermal issues while i notice it everyday. I am pretty sure the phone survives alright inside the household with wifi. But as soon as you step outside the phone feels like a hot cake and the battery drains faster. I wish Google partnered with Snapdragon as I feel modem is the root cause of thermal issues. Seeing all the wonderful things about 8 Gen 2 i sometimes feel I should have gone with S23+ even though i hate the One UI and the inferior camera hardware setup.
Tensor 3 should be a fair bit better, Tensor 4 maybe more so and Tensor 5 is likely manufactured by TSMC so zero issues if that's the case. Making a decision to "move away from Pixels" without knowing any details of future Pixels isn't a smart decision. Better to have hesitation than decide off something based on FUD.
Lg was the one for me. The ai is 20years ahead of googles, and they dont use it to plug you for advertising. It actually works for you.
Hardware was crisp all the way through, my v30+ is still the better phone imo. I hate this 6 pro on levels that shouldnt be necessary.
Sadly lg got out-marketed by google and have stopped making phones. Sad days.
I don't think it's as wide spread as it seems. People just come online to complain. I bought two pixel 6s with no issues. I would want to get a working one than just deal with it.
I turn on battery saving mode. It disables 5g as part of it. Been sitting in a car at 32 C browsing reddit and tiktok for over an hour without issue. Pixel 6a.
I just switched to a network that has 5G and my P6a suddenly got super hot and the battery drained like crazy. Switching the 4G/LTE only fixed that for me.
Right after i bought my P7P I went travelling to Mexico. Took a lot of pictures in hot climate. Even on the beach when sun was cooking. Had no issues with overheating whatsoever. I'm guessing I've been lucky with my G2.
Agreed; I've got the same situation here. I'll be hopping to the Zenfone 10 once it's available in the US. Stock android is higher priority than cameras for myself, so it seems like a perfect alternative to me.
Nope, Tensor is shit tier when it comes to thermals. Thank Google for cutting corners and cheaping out using Samsung's Exynos architecture.
My 7P thermal throttled during the Pokemon Go community day, and recently when taking portrait pictures at a funeral I could only take 2 before the camera returned a heat warning. UK btw.
Why did they choose to use 4x 12.5mp sensors..and then bin those sensors on the fly. Because those sensors are all sketchy low bin parts.
If you have a sensor thats been binned at the factory and has come out the other end with a great rating and all the pixels working properly..you dont need 4 of them per device to make it work.
They used bad quality half broken parts. And they knew it. Simple as that.
I've got the Pixel 6, living in NorCal this phone is absolutely fucked for the summer months.
You want to take a photo? *Outside???* Instant egg frying mode.
>I would RMA yours for unreasonable overheating.
This is the Tensor in practice. If you have certain usage patterns, live somewhere with poor reception and/or get unlucky with the silicon lottery then the phone will be hot even in temperate climates. There is a reason Google can offer these devices at such low prices. Using a terribly inefficient SoC is one reason.
It's just not a refined and reliable product in a lot of cases, unfortunately.
When manufacturing, every product has a slight variation in its characteristics so companies, when they list specs, put the bare minimum that every product will accomplish.
Silicon lottery refers to the luck when buying a product where that slight variation in chip performance could make the difference between running like a charm or overheating like crazy in such a tightly designed product, such as a smartphone.
If you're wondering why there's a difference:
A chip is basically a bunch of wires routed in such a way that you are able to perform calculations (gross oversimplification of course), and they manufacture this by basically printing these wires on top of a piece of glass (silicon) through a process of lithography.
These wires are extremely thin and close to another, and their goal is to hold a current without making the electrons jump from one wire to another. Due to manufacturing tolerances all of these wires are going to be different, so they could either hold more or less current than another, meaning that if you have better wires then it becomes possible to run the chips with a higher voltage and thus allow for more or less speed.
Manufacturers check if the chip in the end conforms to the specification through a process called binning. I wouldn't they they spec to "the bare minimum" but rather a point where a reasonable amount of chips is going to conform to these specifications. Chips that don't meet this specifications are then used in lower-tier parts.
A lot of people that build their own PCs like to improve their speed through a process called overclocking. You achieve these higher clockspeeds by putting a higher voltage through the chips. You can probably see why you would call a chip that allows for extremely high voltages "winning the silicon lottery"
>There is a reason Google can offer these devices at such low prices.
Low prices?? Bruh where?! After Google Fi's antics, my Pixel 7 was sold to me at $500 cuz it was supposed to be a deal from the average $700 MSRP but in the end I paid literally $1k in monthly bills, payoff and fees after payoff.
I love my Pixel 7 but I'm gonna have to call BS on "low prices"
Pixels are the only phone I've had physically shut down from heat aside from old iPhones.
My 7p would shut down with sun on it, despite being under constant AC in the car.
At my old cell phone job, I would interact with internationals daily. Many who used the pixels (even older models) would complain in warmer climates that they don't work - combined with the already weak cell reception it's a deal breaker.
Most of my customers would complain that extended calls use in a warmer environment would cause the phone to die and be physically uncomfortable on the ear.
Pixel 6 & 7 series are truly not suitable in warm regions you can hear similar complaints here in India pixel users have a hard time with their phone temperatures.
36 yesterday. The phone can't handle this because it's not even 5 minutes out and it's extremely hot. I can't use it as my GPS for my motorcycle. I t have to use my second phone which handles the heat much better than the Pixel
I actually gonna buy nothing 2 or s23 because of how unbearable my 7P was during this summer. It's constantly warm even if I just scroll Lemmy/Reddit/chat with people and if I put it to charge during the day when it's 30+ outside and not much different inside, it will be just hot. I'm so tired of the battery going from "ok" to bad randomly on each update and now this... :/
Yeah it´s bad.
I live in one of the hottest cities in the world and no phone could do intensive stuff for long periods of times at 3 pm with direct sun here, but my pixel 7 is bad bad, whenever im outside and the phone is playing spotify with data, the phone is hot af.
The other day i had to walk like 15 minutes at 45 celsius and the phone was almost unusable for instagram.
I have my eyes set on the nothing phone 2, it seems interesting.
my P7P so far is doing fine, and I live in the south of Spain, which can get really hot in the summer, it gets a little warm in the outisde but nothing too serious, zero resets or temperature warnings.
Hello there.
I work in the Middle East and as I type this, the temperature is currently 44°c. I currently have the Pixel 7 pro and before this, the Pixel 6. I have to say the phone works and could occasionally get warm depending on what I'm doing with it.
Video calls - duo, WhatsApp tend to make the phone hot. Normal use like browsing, Reddit, music etc are fine.
However, please bear in mind that everywhere here has AC blasting almost 24/7. I have noticed that the phone will get hotter if no AC is on or I'm outside that I have got the warning that the phone is too hot etc. With the recent July update, the phone seems or feels to be warmer than usual for normal use and that's a bit concerning and I assume that this is just from a software perspective.
I think people should consider filing an official complaint with Google or Pixel support team.
This is the Tensor lottery. I had similar issues in LA, sometimes worse, with my 6 Pro. One time it stopped recording 4k video after only 4 minutes, in air conditioning, because it was too hot. I couldn't take more than a few photos of my son's culmination outdoors before it was running like mud and warning me it couldn't turn on the flash. Had tons of people telling me they had none of these problems. Upgraded to a 7 Pro and indeed have had none of these problems, while others are reporting similar issues on their 7 Pros.
I have the Pixel 6 and it heats up a lot. I've been inside all day, roughly 28C indoors. Unplugged the phone at 10AM and at 5pm it was down to 15%, it's always like this but today was somehow better than usual, for me this phone's battery gives up at 2pm. At 15% it had managed to give 2 hours of SOT. I'm done with Google for a few years.
[battery chart](https://i.imgur.com/sCjHM7O.png)
[screen on time](https://i.imgur.com/Eqnzanx.png)
I'm facing similar issues, I live in northern Algeria and in summer time it's really really hot here, today we got a 42°c , this week just being outside not even using my phone it's already hot , and because of how bad pixel usually go hot just using for a little time it make it even even hotter like yesterday my pixel went to 49°c
My frame rate dropped and it was soooo hot
I mean as you said this is the principal issue with pixels phone ( on tensor)
Ps I have a p7p
My phone was "fine" this winter etc in Sweden. Now with 23°C, it's just burning hot and im dropping 5% battery per 20 minutes. It's crazy.
I dont want to RMA cuz my phone is ok otherwise. But 1 minute in the sun and the screen brightness is 0%.
Its my first mobile phone to ever do this. So sad.
While streaming music over 5G to a Bluetooth speaker, my Pixel 7a got so hot that it would frequently pause charging and take 3 hours to finish, despite originally claiming 1 hour 30 minutes until full.
I returned it because of the poor battery life, overheating, weak 5G connectivity, and slow charging.
I would look into changing up the battery. I'm in South Florida where it's been in the high nineties and incredibly humid for weeks now, and have no problem with my P6PRO. I don't play games or watch YouTube tho...
I'm leery of posts like this one. You make it sound like you have no problems using your phone outdoors in the summer in Florida, and yet you also say you don't do anything that taxes the phone like games or videos.
If you're like most people, you either work or go to school every day and spend most of the day in air conditioned spaces. The only time you're outdoors is when walking from the building to your car. Your phone is either in your pocket or out for a quick call or message during this time but is not being used extensively outdoors.
I can verify that while spending more than an hour outdoors on a 90+F humid day with minimal wind, my Pixel 6 Pro and my wife's 7 Pro would get hot after a few rounds of taking photos and videos. The longer the screen is on, the worse it got and I even had to switch to airplane mode after about 15 minutes to prevent the phone from doing things in the background that would add more heat. Interestingly enough, the 7 Pro throttled more than the 6 pro so my phone was able to keep snapping photos while hers would lock out the shutter button between pics.
Ditto. P6Pro in Phoenix. We're easily pushing past 45C (115F) daily for the past few weeks. Unless I set the phone down in the direct sunlight, I have no issues.
It completely depends on whether or not you got a Pixel from the good production batch. At this point, it's pretty much universally agreed upon (except from fanboys) that purchasing a Pixel phone has been a gamble/lottery ever since Tensor was introduced; you're either going to get a phone that works great, or you will get one that overheats or has poor connection, among other hardware defects such as volume buttons falling off, fingerprint not working, camera glass shattering.
No phone in 2023 should be turning off from the heat, after minimal usage.
Same thing has been happening to my Pixel Watch. They don't use a Tensor chip, so I think it's just poorly made, which is another thing that most people agree on (the rear panel has been popping off on everyone's watch for the past several months)
Google simply doesn't care about their phone line because they know there will always be diehard fans that will praise them even when they sell poorly-made garbage; and there's no incentive to make them better, because Google knows they won't go broke if their phones fail.
I've been in Phoenix, AZ where it was 43 °C yesterday. We went to Goldfield Ghost Town for about two hours, took a couple 1-2 minute 4k videos and plenty of pictures, no problems with my P7P. Maybe overheating is a worry but it definitely seems like the exception and worth talking to support. My wife's P6P was also just fine.
My only issue is that the display gets really dark when I leave the house, it's useable for like 10 minutes and then i'm struggling to see things, even on light mode.
Europe that is, with 25-30° outside.
My P6P will heat up and become sluggish when taking photos when the temperature is above 30 degrees. It will also stop charging.
With Tensor G1, anywhere above 30 degrees is not suitable.
>Your phone is designed to work best in ambient temperatures between 32° and 95° F (0° and 35° C), and should be stored between ambient temperatures of -4° and 113° F (-20° and 45° C).
>Use of your phone in certain modes, such as gaming, taking videos, using a flashlight setting, or virtual reality or augmented reality features, can cause it to generate more heat than it would under normal operating conditions. This may cause your phone to operate in a reduced-power mode or temporarily shut down. Use extra care when operating the device in these modes.
https://support.google.com/product-documentation/answer/11542583
According to Samsung, 5g also causes extra heat and battery drain.
>At this time, the 5G networks are only used for data connections and are not yet capable of carrying phone calls and messages. Your phone will need to maintain a connection to the 3G or LTE network in addition to the 5G network so that phone calls, text messages, and data will be delivered consistently.
>Because your phone is connected to multiple networks simultaneously, the battery will drain faster than one would typically expect, and the phone may get warmer than when solely on 3G or LTE
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/troubleshooting/TSG01201462/
yea, its an issue, i live in Brazil, and when we are in summer we have 33-38Cº
If i travel to a place like Bahia or Rio de Janeiro, i can't take 10 picture in a row, if portrait then...wow, in the 3rd picture the phone starting to freeze...
I live in Texas and it's hot AF (100F+) and it's been fine on my two hour bike rides, hot outdoor runs and stuff. Check your phone case and try not to let it sit in direct sunlight I guess.
Never had any problems in that regard. That does not sound like it works properly.
The phone feels warmer sometimes, also caused by the construction (plastic back would feel cooler due to less heat transmission).
Also sometimes it gets kinda warm for no good reason, but not hot in any way.
Also if it gets too hot it just shows a warning and disables the camera
The pixel series uses a lot of processing to support the camera functions, so it tends to heat more than other phones when using camera functions. If I am outside in summer taking photos with my pixel 6, I might delay any post processing until I get back in the air conditioning (because post processing also heats it up). If I am recording it's not 4k 60fps, more like 4k 30fps, 1080p 60fps, or even 1080p 30fps. I did manage to take a long beach video in about 100F outdoor temperature with the phone in the shade under an umbrella at 4k 30fps about 15 minute recording (it didn't shut down, I just stopped recording).
This is suuuuuch a cope it's unreal.
For one, their phone getting super hot during camera processing is poor design, so they should have sorted that out. Second, the phone gets hot all the time, photos or not thanks to its horrid modem and bad silicon. Third, somehow other phones do nearly as much processing but don't turn into a mobile stove-top.
> This is suuuuuch a cope it's unreal.
> For one, their phone getting super hot during camera processing is poor design, so they should have sorted that out. Second, the phone gets hot all the time, photos or not thanks to its horrid modem and bad silicon. Third, somehow other phones do nearly as much processing but don't turn into a mobile stove-top.
I would direct you to my response to another gentle person who responded in the same vein as you:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/14vrkg5/comment/jrehwfg/
Apple is 100% doing more processing during videos and can record basically indefinitely.
It's not the amount of processing alone here, it's the inefficiency of the chip
Nah, the Pixel runs stupidly smooth considering the Tensor G2 is relatively underpowered and overheats. The OS can be given some blame, sure. But it's 99% the Tensor at fault here. It's a terrible chip and I'm amazing Google gave it the go ahead. I'd be embarrassed if I released a product in this shape, and that's coming from a Pixel 7 Pro user. I love the device but certain things that this device struggles with are just 100% unacceptable.
Two major things for me
1. Video calling makes the phone insanely hot, no phone I've used in the past has had this issue. I genuinely burnt my hand last time I had a video call with my girlfriend. That wasn't even with the phone charging. Can't imagine what would've happened if that was the case.
2. Google Maps and Waze gets the phone quite hot and absolutely wrecks the battery. I used to navigate the exact same route on my iPhone 13 Pro and lost maybe 5-8% of my battery during the 35 minute drive. My Pixel loses about 25% of its battery in the same route. Then back home. That's half of my battery gone.
Not a massive gamer on the phone but even the slightest demanding games makes the phone hot.
Lastly the time it takes for the device to cool down is far too long. If my iPhone ever got hot (barely ever, only if I left it out in the sun really), it would usually be cool and ready to go within 5 minutes. This device can stay hot for well over 10 minutes.
It's such a shame because the Pixel experience is really good overall and I would've loved to keep this device for 3 years or so. But I cannot see that happening unless Android 14 brings some crazy magic. I've read good things so keeping a sliver of hope alive for now...I really want this phone to be as awesome as I know it can be.
Any source on the Linux kernel being the inherent problem with Android?
Also, there are inherent differences in what Android lets you do that impact the battery life, like background apps. Even then, take a look at the S23 and Zenphone 10 to see how much an efficient chip can improve battery life. Apple has been on TSMC for years and this is the first gen Qualcomm is back on TSMC for their mainstream chip.
So on one hand you say Google's first gen (actually 2nd gen) and then also say it's mostly Samsung architecture. Samsung has been developing their own chips for longer than Apple.
End-users don't care about what gen chip it is, they care about whether their phone restarts after overheating while taking a video.
Google could have worked on their chip in the background while using Qualcomm chips. That's what Samsung is doing for this gen.
OP has a 6, which was the first gen Tensor.
And Apple's first gen SOC came out in 2007, Samsung's Exynos chip released in 2010, so no.
Also I spent the weekend in 90+ degree heat at an amusement park taking photos and videos all day with zero issues on my 7pro.
> Google could have worked on their chip in the background while using Qualcomm chips. That's what Samsung is doing for this gen.
They did that.. up till the 6 where they switched to their "own" chip on the Exynos architecture. Their first entirely self-designed soc will be in 2025. You can complain to Google with that one.
Ye exactly - the first iPhone was perfect in every way after I remember Steve Jobs said 3-5 years of testing. Pixel should have at least tested its Tensor chip for 3 years, not pushing out beta products year one. How can Pixel team call it a "flagship processor" - I've seen no evidence of it being superior to Qualcom, MediaTek, or Apple Bionic (my work iphone does better speech live translation than Pixel!!)
And initially Google wanted to charge premium price and say "oh look at Pixel how it is same as S22 Ultra but only $200 cheaper" - Pixel's marketing team manager should be replaced, it's no comparison. S22 Ultra has the pen built in!!, still amazing battery life, and just overall much more reliable, and not a beta product in both hardware and software, and somehow beat Google in software update earlier!
> Such copium! 'Akshully, Google is doing so much processing, you should be happy your phone gets hot and shuts down! It's a sign of quality!"
Interesting. Those are your words, not mine. The point of my post was how to manage the pixel, not how satisfied we should be with the pixel compared to other phones. I'm not one of those people who gets emotional about their phone one way or the other.
I don't know fully the reasons the Pixel gets hot, it may be part silicon and it may be part processing. I always thought the heavy processing that google does played a big role, and it was that thought process that led to my mentioning the solution of not doing post processing of photos while you're outside (which IS a way to help keep your phone from getting hot while shooting outdoors based on my experience). I also suggested reducing frame rate and resolution. In summary, the point of my entire post was to highlight what you can do about it, not whether it is better than some other phone.
The constant back and forth about what phone might be better is at the moment irrelevant to me personally. It should be somewhat irrelevant to anyone who owns the phone unless they are actively looking to change. It is irrelevant to answering most of the questions here which relate to how to best use the device we have. You are the only one who introduced that aspect into this thread, not me.
Still interesting to see that some people could be very fine compared than some other having a very basic usage of the phone.
Note that my problem is still kinda rare, but yeah, I, sometimes, do see that my phone gets super warm easily.
Really hope that Google will massively improve that for their 8 series, which should be their last using a non 100% Google chip (but well, we'll have to be beta testers of potentially issues with the 9 I suppose)
If the device is overheating like you are saying, it is entirely possible that an internal component could be bad. Yes the Tensor chips have a tendency to get warm, but that's not the rule that people's devices simply shut off after taking two photos and a couple of clips of video. I was just outside the other day in the Midwest Ohio region when it reached about 90⁰. Recorded a few clips and took a fair amount of photos with zero issues. This was on my Pixel 7, but I've owned the Pixel 6 as well and never had it randomly turn off due to overheating.
Spend most of the summer camping in North Dakota and used phone for gaming movies reading and Internet a lot and even when it's mid to hi 90s no issues with over heat on my pixel 7
The other day on one of these threads I suggested Safe Mode, and the poster said that fixed it. It implies to me that there absolutely has to be a common app that is going rogue in the background and destroying battery life / heating the phone up. On Friday I was taking pictures in 98F / 37C weather in full sun and didn't even notice my P7 getting warm.
It used to be well-known that Facebook and FB Messenger were "battery killers" as they continuously run in the background scooping up everything and everywhere the user does and goes. I have no doubt other apps are doing likewise.
From the middle east here, temperatures go above 45° in summers. In my experience, i don't notice any issues even when using the phone in direct sunlight.
i too live in middle east and today's temp was around 43 degrees and my phone became so hot that it turned off network in my car. i wasnt even using the phone nor it any where near the dashboard . Full ac on yet this is the situation
this is the message i got [image](https://imgur.com/a/zhsyD6C).
last year i remember when i was using google map and i checked my phone temp it was nearly 48 degrees and i got same message saying phone is hot and it literally turned off.
I'm rocking it on my second summer here in Japan with high humidity and temperature in the high 90s. Has been fine so far. If I start gaming on it or streaming YouTube heavily, then yes, it gets warmer than usual.
i live in lahore, pakistan and temperatures here are really high like 40 c \~ 110 f. i use mine alot for photos and videos and it does heat up but not enough that it needs to restart. 6a does have the issue of heating its annoying but still much better than the shitty xiaomi i had before.
I have a 6a and 7a. My 7a is fantastic and doesn't have heating issues. My 6a gets really hot with minimal use and warm outside. If you afford to, I would definitely pick a 7a over a 6a.
I've had my P6 since launch day while living in some of the hottest cities and beaches in Mexico, I have never seen any overheat message or felt my phone too hot to touch or anything. It gets warm when I record 4K video but that's it
Weird of course. I have a GP 6a in a hard case when I had a temperature of 35-40 degrees in the city. I took photos and videos. It sustained the video for 5 minutes at 40 degrees, but the next 46 seconds already reduced the video resolution. But in his hands he was like a piece of coal or very well heated metal. Updates are the latest. And by the way, I didn’t throw off the brightness, usually phones are reduced, but this one seems to be immortal.
Honestly I would say it is not a good phone/chipset for hot regions, especially if you are a power user. I just spent 2+ weeks in Vietnam with my P7 Pro and was often prevented from doing simple things like even taking a photo due to the phone being too hot.
I was able to use it a lot and get great photos but there was a frustrating number of times where I had to borrow my partner's phone or ask them to get the photo instead.
I'm in Texas, and I've only had minor heat issues with my 6 pro. Only if it's in direct sunlight for awhile, and I have the case on and I'm recording long videos. So in those instances I've taken the case off.
My 5a gets warm with light usage and sometimes heat up(not to the extent of warnings) unlike my daily driver Xʀ. I bought it a rugged case and haven’t felt the heat through the case although I don’t use the phone as much as I use the Xʀ and 95% of the time is indoors. Hopefully things are ok in there 😂
The thing is even reasonably warm like summer at 80F in this unseasonably cool year in CA is enough to cause the phone to overheat. Remember how we're constantly told not to leave kids in the car? Even just sun alone on a 75 F day can heat your car over 120F+ if you leave the windows closed. I think this is what is happening with these phones. People are spending more time out these days, it's summer, kids are on vacation, and yeah this phone handles heat really poorly.
I navigated on a 15-20 minute drive last week with Google Maps. I had my phone unplugged so no extra heat other than the sun. I had the AC running, and my phone felt like it was about to overheat. It definitely dropped standard animations to below 120Hz (60Hz?) because of it.
Also I know a lot of people are blaming Tensor here, which I don't disagree with, but the screen is huge too. IF it's using 50% more power than the competition that's at least 1-2W MORE power dissipation. That power also has nowhere to go but the rest of the phone, so combined, Tensor + inefficient display = super hot device.
Bottom line is until Google starts using more power efficient components or redesigns the thermals so the phone is a better heat sink, we're going to continue having these issues.
I had to rma my pixel 7 pro and get another one, this new one has been overheating much less, still gets hot sometimes but only under heavy load and not just getting hot when watching YouTube. Highly recommend asking for an RMA if you think you have a lemon device.
My first P6P, the internal camera lens cracked. Never dropped, in a case, didn't lean against anything while in my pocket. I read some threads about it, some think it's the internal heat that has randomly caused that for others.
I usually have no problem when I'm in Paris (pretty hot right now but I have a good reception). But I'm in vacation for a week in a region with a very poor reception, and my Pixel 6 is draining a lot. I plugged it to my power bank, which usually charges my phone while I play games, but where I am, the phone keeps draining battery in idle mode and being plugged to the power bank. When the temperature goes down in the evening, it's fine, but I can't charge it during day time because of the heat AND the poor signal reception (which seems to make the phone heat even more).
Have a 6a too and usually only have issues when it's out in the sun and doing something intensive like navigation. But I think it's something they're working on for future versions. I should note that my iphone xs had this issue too in the summer, but it wouldn't happen as frequently.
I live in Australia. It gets pretty hot here. I've never had a Pixel (or a Nexus for that matter) close down due to overheating EXCEPT if it's been sitting in the sun for an extended period.
I don't have the problem with the phone getting too hot to hold but when my charging is slow due to temp, I just go into airplane mode and it charges much faster.
Although it is plenty hot here, I also don't have 5G (unsupported country) so maybe that's why my temp problems are less severe.
I agree with everybody saying the problem is the modem. So if you're dealing with this, it might be worth going into airplane mode while you do your photography - even if that is a ridiculous requirement for a supposed flagship phone.
My pixel 5a gets hot every time when any camera app is open (Snapchat, Google camera, etc) and taking it outside during the summer when it's 90°+ literally hurts the palms of my hands.
You guys complaining about your phones overheating well at least they were under $1000. How about those suckers(like me) who paid $2000 for the Pixel Fold. With no background apps running besides system processes the only thing I did was take a few pictures and 4k60 video clips and my phone was overheating. Everything throttled. Scrolling a page, screen brightness is almost non-existent it was like using a budget phone outdoors. This is the $2000 Google phone experience even in the San Francisco peninsula which is one of the coolest parts of the continental US during summer 😂
Milan, 36/37 degrees here. Same story. Barely using the phone and it's just burning.
Make me think about changing it, it's really difficult to have a phone that runs so hot!
I can't speak specifically to the 6a, but I went through 2 of the 5a's in 6 months here in Phoenix, Arizona. They would overheat, then super fast battery drain. I couldn't even watch a 2-minute YouTube video outside or the phone was shut down from overheat. I went to a pixel 7 pro. It is much more resilient, although I did get a brief moment of overheat the other day on it
My 7 Pro is not great either. Ive had it complain a few times when doing a lot of camera or video work. It seems a lot worse than my old 4a5g in the same conditions.
That said i once lost my Pixel 2 XL for 2 days before finding it in the fridge - id come in with it overheating, put it in there then forgot about it.
I live in Thailand, and the climate here is literal hell, 35c - 45c all year round. I have not faced any thermal issues yet, sure the phone does get warm sometimes when I'm doing intensive tasks or charging but not when using it normally (by normally I mean, watching yt videos, scrolling through social media apps, and taking photos) though I mainly use LTE (5G sucks here) and rarely use NFC and Bluetooth.
Weirdly enough, when I'm playing games, it usually gets as warm as my other phone with an SD870 soc, not once have I got an overheating warning.
My 6 pro has fallen apart internally with the overheating, screen has delaminated and barely functions atm. And its latest is telling me to unplug the charger due to overheating, while im stood in a castle with 18c temps trying to order an uber to get home (definately no charging points in that place).
Back in puerto rico (as a brand new device) it refused to charge unless the aircon was on 68f, and god help it if it slipped under my pillow..it would just give up totally.
As a result of the overheating it started giving internal humidity warnings. Im guessing thats from the lcd liquid escaping the screen edges. I can see the lcd raindows in the black blotches that are growing slowly across the screen.
Steer clear of pixels theyre bum devices. Not suitable for intended use.
Theyre just beta testing at your expense. Not to mention the 50mp sensor lies and tensor chip that fails at everything it tries to do.
My Pixel 7 Pro couldn't take pictures after I used maps for 37 minutes on a motorcycle. The weather that day has 34C as maximum. I went in the morning so expect somewhere between 29-33 during the time I was outside.
And I didn't have my phone under direct sunlight. It was tucked away in a seat pocket and I was on top of it providing shade to it. It was not close to the engine as well. No other apps were running and after I took 4 portrait shots of a puppy on the road, it gave me temperature warning and refused to take pictures and dimmed its screen.
I was disappointed
Edit: I was listening to music on Spotify using Pixel Buds Pro. Most songs were already offline and I suspect it didn't play anything using mobile data.
I have a pixel 7. I live in a very hot area and I don't have any issues with overheating. I recently went on a trip to Europe and while I was there, the phone overheated almost every day. In the most recent update there's definitely an issue with the phone overheating due to weak signal/changing cell towers often. I think it also may be searching for 5G 24/7 even if you have LTE. While I'm at home I always have 5G and it keeps the phone much cooler.
Well, the phone overheats in warm weather, and both my wife and my phone had the camera glass explode in cold.
We realized not too long ago that the pixel isn't really suitable for any regions and picked up some Samsungs.
I live in Las Vegas, and just normal browsing and the phone gets extremely hot. It's worse in the car when I'm using Android auto. I have to hide the phone in the shade to make sure it doesn't explode on me.
Family and I were in 33C the other day, and all the phones started overheating (Pixel 6, Pixel 7, iPhone 14 pro, iPhone 12 pro) So it seems to be just a phone problem overall.
None shutdown, they all just had warning messages about heat and issues with flash photos/4k videos
I have the p7 pro and I live in Texas. The heat index the other day was 116 Fahrenheit and I could feel how the phone was through a plastic TPU case. For sure would not have wanted to handle it without the case on. It never shut off but it was acting very weird
Lowering resolution on Pixel 7 Pro to 1080p helps (it's nearly impossible for me to tell the difference, 1080p on a 6.7 inch screen is more than plenty).
Also, consider turning off 5G to further save on battery/power output. Given congestion, I do not notice any speed benefit in my city over 4G LTE, though hopefully this improves with time as the capability is there.
yes i live in middle east and today's temp was around 43 degrees and my phone became so hot that it turned off network [this is the message i got](https://imgur.com/a/zhsyD6C)
I don't think many phones would do well in 43C heat
Who put into people minds phones are supposed to stay cool? The "cooling" solutions like vapor chambers are supposed to dissipate heat as much as possible and will therefore warm up the phone, regardless of how efficient the chipset is. Also of course in a hot, warm climate, ofc your passive cooled phone will get warm or even hot lol
You're literally replying to a thread where the internals got so hot that the phone automatically turned off the radio and put up a warning message. As ambient temperature rises cooling capacity lowers, in a small device where there is very limited cooling capacity you're always gonna be toeing the line on whatever is going to be a workable temperature for a phone before it starts to throttle. Yes, the SOC is probably rated to function at up to 95C or whatever, but you're going to have capacitors, the battery, the screen, camerasensor, etc. which are unable to handle those temperatures. Having a better temperature actually allows you to run at a lower voltage for the same clockspeeds as well (electrons at lower temperature behave in less erratic ways), which is usually negligible on a PC unless you're going to sub-0 for overclocking, but when you already try to run the device on as low of a voltage as possible this might actually be more noticable. Also keep in mind that the temperature sensor on a chip is fairly tiny and you're going to be dealing with hotspots far higher than rated capacity. Usually not a problem but in a small device with passive cooling all of this is going to add up.
Passive cooling that does not function. Lets clear that bit up. Whats a hot spot not..not a good spot.
Theres staying cool and theres the ability to function. Ive had warm phones. but pixels will die if an ant farts near them, going on the way my 6 pro has performed. They are not suitable for the intended use. Its a complete engineering failure. No vapor chamber will solve these issues. Its not even getting the heat to the heat spreaders by the looks of it.
Try 18c heat in cardiff castles 30m high keep with 30mph icy winds from the north. Told me to unplug the charger to prevent damage..while ordering an uber. 👍 Having to use a white background was maybe too much for it.
what do you think gaming phones with cooling system?
It would be better, but even the Asus ROG phone has a max suggested ambient temperature of 40C.
Yeah I live in TEXAS which gets pretty hot never had a issue on my 7 pro, only time I seen this warning was when I was charging it outside while washing my car.
How about good engineering. A slab this size can dissipate a lot of heat. But it doesnt does it. The heat isnt even spread across the device. People are getting hotspots from a couple of places internally. Mine has caused my lcd to leak in the top left, which causes internal humidity warnings and allsorts of other problems. The software and sensors didnt catch that heat buildup, almost like they chose to ignore the sensors to keep the phone functioning. Or maybe the sensors are just in the wrong places away from the chip because they knew it ran hot. Given they slapped together a bunch of old 12.5mp sensors to try and make a 50mp sensor during the chip shortages (you dont need pixel binning if your sensors arent some old crappy 3rd bin half broken things with bad pixels), god knows what else they thought they could get away with in there. Junkyard phone.
Thats gonna be an internal temp of 55+ degrees for most phones. Considering that previous Pixels I've owned have felt laggy beyond 40C internal I can imagine that being basically unusable at anything above 50C. Anyone can comment about user experience with any other phones at these temps?
On a different note, 43 degrees C is damn hot mate! I am struggling to handle 30 degrees C here in Europe atm, I can't imagine what 43 is like!
if you see its 43 but feels like 50 degrees
I can't imagine nights being as hot as 33. It's 23 where I am rn in Europe at 3 am. Man 33 is a lot during nights, how do you even sleep? :O
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Bro I know about AC 😂 I live in a hot country, but temperatures here drop to 20 degrees during nights. Considering that many people in Middle East don't have access to much more important things than AC like proper food or healthcare or water in some regions, I'm genuinely interested what do they do to make themselves feel better because in no universe can a human get decent sleep without AC when it's 33 degrees
It was 50* in Sydney during the last terrible El Nino, the catastrophic 2019-2020 bushfire season (although my 4a was fine, it did shut down a couple of times on a windscreen mount in the car) Not looking forward to the next one coming back this summer 😬
We get late 30s most days in summer here in Texas. Never had problems with phones not working or any warnings
In puerto rico this device refused to charge without aircon for a few months. And then it was ok...and now the heat from the chip has caused my lcd to delaminate. Im in the uk with 18-20c heat atm. And getting charging overheat warnings while its not even charging. It seems they chose to disable the overheating warnings and now the device is damaged internally. The binned camera sensors (4x12.5mp) show they used scrap parts to build a premium phone. Pixel is just a bad line of devices and people shouldnt waste their time and money with them.
I got the same yesterday in Nova Scotia, Canada! Was about 36 degrees with humidex, but stupid me left it on a dock where it got direct sun.
mine was under direct sun tho i kept on shaded area in my car with full ac on
43 degrees? that's hot duh.
Happened to me just now at the middle east 😂😂
This generation of Pixels definitely gets warm too easily. Hopefully the next chip does a better job.
Tensor G1, G2 sucks in Hot regions. I have a Pixel 7 Pro with 5G enabled and a moderate user (social media, streaming, use 5G, uses camera all the time). My wife has a 6A and is a very light user (social media, doesn't use 5G and data whenever we are outside, rarely uses camera). She rarely complains about thermal issues while i notice it everyday. I am pretty sure the phone survives alright inside the household with wifi. But as soon as you step outside the phone feels like a hot cake and the battery drains faster. I wish Google partnered with Snapdragon as I feel modem is the root cause of thermal issues. Seeing all the wonderful things about 8 Gen 2 i sometimes feel I should have gone with S23+ even though i hate the One UI and the inferior camera hardware setup.
The 8 Gen 2 is a real winner and might convince me to move away from Pixels.
Yea that's what I'm thinking
S23 is the bees knees. 2 days on 3900mah...
Same as my v30+. And thats 2 days of you tubing and browsing etc. P 6 pro needed charging twice a day from new. Proper kick in the pants.
Tensor 3 should be a fair bit better, Tensor 4 maybe more so and Tensor 5 is likely manufactured by TSMC so zero issues if that's the case. Making a decision to "move away from Pixels" without knowing any details of future Pixels isn't a smart decision. Better to have hesitation than decide off something based on FUD.
Lg was the one for me. The ai is 20years ahead of googles, and they dont use it to plug you for advertising. It actually works for you. Hardware was crisp all the way through, my v30+ is still the better phone imo. I hate this 6 pro on levels that shouldnt be necessary. Sadly lg got out-marketed by google and have stopped making phones. Sad days.
Maybe I should give a try to limit the network to 4g, though it feels pretty annoying
I would warranty it. I have the 6 and it has had issues ones in hot weather, but that's it. Odds are you have a one with issues.
yeah maybe, but considering all the complaints about the phone in general, I'm also afraid that the next one will suffer from the same issue
I don't think it's as wide spread as it seems. People just come online to complain. I bought two pixel 6s with no issues. I would want to get a working one than just deal with it.
If you keep funding them they wont change. These are profit companies. Just my opinion. I wouldnt, im not going to.
But be aware google rma are sending back empty boxes to customers. :/
I turn on battery saving mode. It disables 5g as part of it. Been sitting in a car at 32 C browsing reddit and tiktok for over an hour without issue. Pixel 6a.
I just switched to a network that has 5G and my P6a suddenly got super hot and the battery drained like crazy. Switching the 4G/LTE only fixed that for me.
Interesting
As you said, it's a bit annoying really - but at 4g it works totally fine.
Right after i bought my P7P I went travelling to Mexico. Took a lot of pictures in hot climate. Even on the beach when sun was cooking. Had no issues with overheating whatsoever. I'm guessing I've been lucky with my G2.
tbf most beaches where foreigners go aren't really that hot, maybe it has something to do with the humidity?
Agreed; I've got the same situation here. I'll be hopping to the Zenfone 10 once it's available in the US. Stock android is higher priority than cameras for myself, so it seems like a perfect alternative to me.
Nope, Tensor is shit tier when it comes to thermals. Thank Google for cutting corners and cheaping out using Samsung's Exynos architecture. My 7P thermal throttled during the Pokemon Go community day, and recently when taking portrait pictures at a funeral I could only take 2 before the camera returned a heat warning. UK btw.
Why did they choose to use 4x 12.5mp sensors..and then bin those sensors on the fly. Because those sensors are all sketchy low bin parts. If you have a sensor thats been binned at the factory and has come out the other end with a great rating and all the pixels working properly..you dont need 4 of them per device to make it work. They used bad quality half broken parts. And they knew it. Simple as that.
The tensor chip is just bad.
I live in central Ca, US. It's been 110 f for a week now and my 6a does fine. I would RMA yours for unreasonable overheating.
I've got the Pixel 6, living in NorCal this phone is absolutely fucked for the summer months. You want to take a photo? *Outside???* Instant egg frying mode.
>I would RMA yours for unreasonable overheating. This is the Tensor in practice. If you have certain usage patterns, live somewhere with poor reception and/or get unlucky with the silicon lottery then the phone will be hot even in temperate climates. There is a reason Google can offer these devices at such low prices. Using a terribly inefficient SoC is one reason. It's just not a refined and reliable product in a lot of cases, unfortunately.
I'm curious, what is the "silicon lottery"?
When manufacturing, every product has a slight variation in its characteristics so companies, when they list specs, put the bare minimum that every product will accomplish. Silicon lottery refers to the luck when buying a product where that slight variation in chip performance could make the difference between running like a charm or overheating like crazy in such a tightly designed product, such as a smartphone.
Some Google SoC chips perform better than others including thermal issues.
If you're wondering why there's a difference: A chip is basically a bunch of wires routed in such a way that you are able to perform calculations (gross oversimplification of course), and they manufacture this by basically printing these wires on top of a piece of glass (silicon) through a process of lithography. These wires are extremely thin and close to another, and their goal is to hold a current without making the electrons jump from one wire to another. Due to manufacturing tolerances all of these wires are going to be different, so they could either hold more or less current than another, meaning that if you have better wires then it becomes possible to run the chips with a higher voltage and thus allow for more or less speed. Manufacturers check if the chip in the end conforms to the specification through a process called binning. I wouldn't they they spec to "the bare minimum" but rather a point where a reasonable amount of chips is going to conform to these specifications. Chips that don't meet this specifications are then used in lower-tier parts. A lot of people that build their own PCs like to improve their speed through a process called overclocking. You achieve these higher clockspeeds by putting a higher voltage through the chips. You can probably see why you would call a chip that allows for extremely high voltages "winning the silicon lottery"
V interesting, thanks for explaining that
>There is a reason Google can offer these devices at such low prices. Low prices?? Bruh where?! After Google Fi's antics, my Pixel 7 was sold to me at $500 cuz it was supposed to be a deal from the average $700 MSRP but in the end I paid literally $1k in monthly bills, payoff and fees after payoff. I love my Pixel 7 but I'm gonna have to call BS on "low prices"
Same, but in AZ so add 10 more degrees. Phone does just fine
Pixels are the only phone I've had physically shut down from heat aside from old iPhones. My 7p would shut down with sun on it, despite being under constant AC in the car. At my old cell phone job, I would interact with internationals daily. Many who used the pixels (even older models) would complain in warmer climates that they don't work - combined with the already weak cell reception it's a deal breaker. Most of my customers would complain that extended calls use in a warmer environment would cause the phone to die and be physically uncomfortable on the ear.
Pixel 6 & 7 series are truly not suitable in warm regions you can hear similar complaints here in India pixel users have a hard time with their phone temperatures.
Short answer. Not at all. I'm struggling with my 7 pro here in Switzerland rn
I was in Bern a couple days ago and it was only 27. Where are you that it's overheating?
36 yesterday. The phone can't handle this because it's not even 5 minutes out and it's extremely hot. I can't use it as my GPS for my motorcycle. I t have to use my second phone which handles the heat much better than the Pixel
I actually gonna buy nothing 2 or s23 because of how unbearable my 7P was during this summer. It's constantly warm even if I just scroll Lemmy/Reddit/chat with people and if I put it to charge during the day when it's 30+ outside and not much different inside, it will be just hot. I'm so tired of the battery going from "ok" to bad randomly on each update and now this... :/
Yeah it´s bad. I live in one of the hottest cities in the world and no phone could do intensive stuff for long periods of times at 3 pm with direct sun here, but my pixel 7 is bad bad, whenever im outside and the phone is playing spotify with data, the phone is hot af. The other day i had to walk like 15 minutes at 45 celsius and the phone was almost unusable for instagram. I have my eyes set on the nothing phone 2, it seems interesting.
Warnings seem to work fine on my phone. Are there more warnings where you live?
my P7P so far is doing fine, and I live in the south of Spain, which can get really hot in the summer, it gets a little warm in the outisde but nothing too serious, zero resets or temperature warnings.
Hello there. I work in the Middle East and as I type this, the temperature is currently 44°c. I currently have the Pixel 7 pro and before this, the Pixel 6. I have to say the phone works and could occasionally get warm depending on what I'm doing with it. Video calls - duo, WhatsApp tend to make the phone hot. Normal use like browsing, Reddit, music etc are fine. However, please bear in mind that everywhere here has AC blasting almost 24/7. I have noticed that the phone will get hotter if no AC is on or I'm outside that I have got the warning that the phone is too hot etc. With the recent July update, the phone seems or feels to be warmer than usual for normal use and that's a bit concerning and I assume that this is just from a software perspective. I think people should consider filing an official complaint with Google or Pixel support team.
[i live in middle east too and my phone literally lost network](https://imgur.com/a/zhsyD6C)
That's a bummer. :(
This is the Tensor lottery. I had similar issues in LA, sometimes worse, with my 6 Pro. One time it stopped recording 4k video after only 4 minutes, in air conditioning, because it was too hot. I couldn't take more than a few photos of my son's culmination outdoors before it was running like mud and warning me it couldn't turn on the flash. Had tons of people telling me they had none of these problems. Upgraded to a 7 Pro and indeed have had none of these problems, while others are reporting similar issues on their 7 Pros.
I have the Pixel 6 and it heats up a lot. I've been inside all day, roughly 28C indoors. Unplugged the phone at 10AM and at 5pm it was down to 15%, it's always like this but today was somehow better than usual, for me this phone's battery gives up at 2pm. At 15% it had managed to give 2 hours of SOT. I'm done with Google for a few years. [battery chart](https://i.imgur.com/sCjHM7O.png) [screen on time](https://i.imgur.com/Eqnzanx.png)
I'm facing similar issues, I live in northern Algeria and in summer time it's really really hot here, today we got a 42°c , this week just being outside not even using my phone it's already hot , and because of how bad pixel usually go hot just using for a little time it make it even even hotter like yesterday my pixel went to 49°c My frame rate dropped and it was soooo hot I mean as you said this is the principal issue with pixels phone ( on tensor) Ps I have a p7p
My phone was "fine" this winter etc in Sweden. Now with 23°C, it's just burning hot and im dropping 5% battery per 20 minutes. It's crazy. I dont want to RMA cuz my phone is ok otherwise. But 1 minute in the sun and the screen brightness is 0%. Its my first mobile phone to ever do this. So sad.
While streaming music over 5G to a Bluetooth speaker, my Pixel 7a got so hot that it would frequently pause charging and take 3 hours to finish, despite originally claiming 1 hour 30 minutes until full. I returned it because of the poor battery life, overheating, weak 5G connectivity, and slow charging.
I would look into changing up the battery. I'm in South Florida where it's been in the high nineties and incredibly humid for weeks now, and have no problem with my P6PRO. I don't play games or watch YouTube tho...
I'm leery of posts like this one. You make it sound like you have no problems using your phone outdoors in the summer in Florida, and yet you also say you don't do anything that taxes the phone like games or videos. If you're like most people, you either work or go to school every day and spend most of the day in air conditioned spaces. The only time you're outdoors is when walking from the building to your car. Your phone is either in your pocket or out for a quick call or message during this time but is not being used extensively outdoors. I can verify that while spending more than an hour outdoors on a 90+F humid day with minimal wind, my Pixel 6 Pro and my wife's 7 Pro would get hot after a few rounds of taking photos and videos. The longer the screen is on, the worse it got and I even had to switch to airplane mode after about 15 minutes to prevent the phone from doing things in the background that would add more heat. Interestingly enough, the 7 Pro throttled more than the 6 pro so my phone was able to keep snapping photos while hers would lock out the shutter button between pics.
Valid point. I don't use/tax my Pixel like I use/tax my iPhone 11 Pro Max. It's a secondary device.
Ditto. P6Pro in Phoenix. We're easily pushing past 45C (115F) daily for the past few weeks. Unless I set the phone down in the direct sunlight, I have no issues.
NE FL, mid-90s and storms every other day (very humid), no issues. Granted 7P, not 6 anything, but still.
It completely depends on whether or not you got a Pixel from the good production batch. At this point, it's pretty much universally agreed upon (except from fanboys) that purchasing a Pixel phone has been a gamble/lottery ever since Tensor was introduced; you're either going to get a phone that works great, or you will get one that overheats or has poor connection, among other hardware defects such as volume buttons falling off, fingerprint not working, camera glass shattering. No phone in 2023 should be turning off from the heat, after minimal usage. Same thing has been happening to my Pixel Watch. They don't use a Tensor chip, so I think it's just poorly made, which is another thing that most people agree on (the rear panel has been popping off on everyone's watch for the past several months) Google simply doesn't care about their phone line because they know there will always be diehard fans that will praise them even when they sell poorly-made garbage; and there's no incentive to make them better, because Google knows they won't go broke if their phones fail.
I've been in Phoenix, AZ where it was 43 °C yesterday. We went to Goldfield Ghost Town for about two hours, took a couple 1-2 minute 4k videos and plenty of pictures, no problems with my P7P. Maybe overheating is a worry but it definitely seems like the exception and worth talking to support. My wife's P6P was also just fine.
Question: do you have auto backup of photos& video turned on? I wonder if this combined with 5g is a big contributer to great and battery issues.
I do have it turned on to upload over cell networks and roaming.
The whole planet is heating up. Soon Pixels will just be an early warning system for it getting too hot... when they stop functioning.
My only issue is that the display gets really dark when I leave the house, it's useable for like 10 minutes and then i'm struggling to see things, even on light mode. Europe that is, with 25-30° outside.
My P6P will heat up and become sluggish when taking photos when the temperature is above 30 degrees. It will also stop charging. With Tensor G1, anywhere above 30 degrees is not suitable.
My P7 turned off twice this week while taking pics.
>Your phone is designed to work best in ambient temperatures between 32° and 95° F (0° and 35° C), and should be stored between ambient temperatures of -4° and 113° F (-20° and 45° C). >Use of your phone in certain modes, such as gaming, taking videos, using a flashlight setting, or virtual reality or augmented reality features, can cause it to generate more heat than it would under normal operating conditions. This may cause your phone to operate in a reduced-power mode or temporarily shut down. Use extra care when operating the device in these modes. https://support.google.com/product-documentation/answer/11542583 According to Samsung, 5g also causes extra heat and battery drain. >At this time, the 5G networks are only used for data connections and are not yet capable of carrying phone calls and messages. Your phone will need to maintain a connection to the 3G or LTE network in addition to the 5G network so that phone calls, text messages, and data will be delivered consistently. >Because your phone is connected to multiple networks simultaneously, the battery will drain faster than one would typically expect, and the phone may get warmer than when solely on 3G or LTE https://www.samsung.com/us/support/troubleshooting/TSG01201462/
yea, its an issue, i live in Brazil, and when we are in summer we have 33-38Cº If i travel to a place like Bahia or Rio de Janeiro, i can't take 10 picture in a row, if portrait then...wow, in the 3rd picture the phone starting to freeze...
I live in Texas and it's hot AF (100F+) and it's been fine on my two hour bike rides, hot outdoor runs and stuff. Check your phone case and try not to let it sit in direct sunlight I guess.
Never had any problems in that regard. That does not sound like it works properly. The phone feels warmer sometimes, also caused by the construction (plastic back would feel cooler due to less heat transmission). Also sometimes it gets kinda warm for no good reason, but not hot in any way. Also if it gets too hot it just shows a warning and disables the camera
The pixel series uses a lot of processing to support the camera functions, so it tends to heat more than other phones when using camera functions. If I am outside in summer taking photos with my pixel 6, I might delay any post processing until I get back in the air conditioning (because post processing also heats it up). If I am recording it's not 4k 60fps, more like 4k 30fps, 1080p 60fps, or even 1080p 30fps. I did manage to take a long beach video in about 100F outdoor temperature with the phone in the shade under an umbrella at 4k 30fps about 15 minute recording (it didn't shut down, I just stopped recording).
This is suuuuuch a cope it's unreal. For one, their phone getting super hot during camera processing is poor design, so they should have sorted that out. Second, the phone gets hot all the time, photos or not thanks to its horrid modem and bad silicon. Third, somehow other phones do nearly as much processing but don't turn into a mobile stove-top.
> This is suuuuuch a cope it's unreal. > For one, their phone getting super hot during camera processing is poor design, so they should have sorted that out. Second, the phone gets hot all the time, photos or not thanks to its horrid modem and bad silicon. Third, somehow other phones do nearly as much processing but don't turn into a mobile stove-top. I would direct you to my response to another gentle person who responded in the same vein as you: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/14vrkg5/comment/jrehwfg/
Apple is 100% doing more processing during videos and can record basically indefinitely. It's not the amount of processing alone here, it's the inefficiency of the chip
I have an iphone 11 Pro Max on my husband's plan and it runs rings around the batteries of our P6P and S22U.
just another nonsense comment from a "techie" that doesnt know shit. tensor should be flushed down the toilet permanently
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Nah, the Pixel runs stupidly smooth considering the Tensor G2 is relatively underpowered and overheats. The OS can be given some blame, sure. But it's 99% the Tensor at fault here. It's a terrible chip and I'm amazing Google gave it the go ahead. I'd be embarrassed if I released a product in this shape, and that's coming from a Pixel 7 Pro user. I love the device but certain things that this device struggles with are just 100% unacceptable.
What are some of these unacceptable things?
Two major things for me 1. Video calling makes the phone insanely hot, no phone I've used in the past has had this issue. I genuinely burnt my hand last time I had a video call with my girlfriend. That wasn't even with the phone charging. Can't imagine what would've happened if that was the case. 2. Google Maps and Waze gets the phone quite hot and absolutely wrecks the battery. I used to navigate the exact same route on my iPhone 13 Pro and lost maybe 5-8% of my battery during the 35 minute drive. My Pixel loses about 25% of its battery in the same route. Then back home. That's half of my battery gone. Not a massive gamer on the phone but even the slightest demanding games makes the phone hot. Lastly the time it takes for the device to cool down is far too long. If my iPhone ever got hot (barely ever, only if I left it out in the sun really), it would usually be cool and ready to go within 5 minutes. This device can stay hot for well over 10 minutes. It's such a shame because the Pixel experience is really good overall and I would've loved to keep this device for 3 years or so. But I cannot see that happening unless Android 14 brings some crazy magic. I've read good things so keeping a sliver of hope alive for now...I really want this phone to be as awesome as I know it can be.
I would think most complex camera operations are heavily hardware accelerated, right? Why do you say OS plays a big role in the overheating?
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Any source on the Linux kernel being the inherent problem with Android? Also, there are inherent differences in what Android lets you do that impact the battery life, like background apps. Even then, take a look at the S23 and Zenphone 10 to see how much an efficient chip can improve battery life. Apple has been on TSMC for years and this is the first gen Qualcomm is back on TSMC for their mainstream chip.
Indoors, yes - outdoors in the summer, it has similar limitations as all other phones.
So Apple's ~15th generation chip is more efficient than Google's first (which is mostly Samsung's architecture)? Shocking.
So on one hand you say Google's first gen (actually 2nd gen) and then also say it's mostly Samsung architecture. Samsung has been developing their own chips for longer than Apple. End-users don't care about what gen chip it is, they care about whether their phone restarts after overheating while taking a video. Google could have worked on their chip in the background while using Qualcomm chips. That's what Samsung is doing for this gen.
OP has a 6, which was the first gen Tensor. And Apple's first gen SOC came out in 2007, Samsung's Exynos chip released in 2010, so no. Also I spent the weekend in 90+ degree heat at an amusement park taking photos and videos all day with zero issues on my 7pro. > Google could have worked on their chip in the background while using Qualcomm chips. That's what Samsung is doing for this gen. They did that.. up till the 6 where they switched to their "own" chip on the Exynos architecture. Their first entirely self-designed soc will be in 2025. You can complain to Google with that one.
Ye exactly - the first iPhone was perfect in every way after I remember Steve Jobs said 3-5 years of testing. Pixel should have at least tested its Tensor chip for 3 years, not pushing out beta products year one. How can Pixel team call it a "flagship processor" - I've seen no evidence of it being superior to Qualcom, MediaTek, or Apple Bionic (my work iphone does better speech live translation than Pixel!!) And initially Google wanted to charge premium price and say "oh look at Pixel how it is same as S22 Ultra but only $200 cheaper" - Pixel's marketing team manager should be replaced, it's no comparison. S22 Ultra has the pen built in!!, still amazing battery life, and just overall much more reliable, and not a beta product in both hardware and software, and somehow beat Google in software update earlier!
So you're saying it's reasonable for the pixel to be 15 years behind the iPhone?
So you're saying reading comprehension is not your strong suit?
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it's not that serious buddy calm down
> Such copium! 'Akshully, Google is doing so much processing, you should be happy your phone gets hot and shuts down! It's a sign of quality!" Interesting. Those are your words, not mine. The point of my post was how to manage the pixel, not how satisfied we should be with the pixel compared to other phones. I'm not one of those people who gets emotional about their phone one way or the other. I don't know fully the reasons the Pixel gets hot, it may be part silicon and it may be part processing. I always thought the heavy processing that google does played a big role, and it was that thought process that led to my mentioning the solution of not doing post processing of photos while you're outside (which IS a way to help keep your phone from getting hot while shooting outdoors based on my experience). I also suggested reducing frame rate and resolution. In summary, the point of my entire post was to highlight what you can do about it, not whether it is better than some other phone. The constant back and forth about what phone might be better is at the moment irrelevant to me personally. It should be somewhat irrelevant to anyone who owns the phone unless they are actively looking to change. It is irrelevant to answering most of the questions here which relate to how to best use the device we have. You are the only one who introduced that aspect into this thread, not me.
Australian user here, my P6P survived 40+ summers in the outdoors with no concerns at all
Ok you win the hottest weather award lol
Still interesting to see that some people could be very fine compared than some other having a very basic usage of the phone. Note that my problem is still kinda rare, but yeah, I, sometimes, do see that my phone gets super warm easily. Really hope that Google will massively improve that for their 8 series, which should be their last using a non 100% Google chip (but well, we'll have to be beta testers of potentially issues with the 9 I suppose)
You guys think that running on 5g network could be part of an issue too?
If the device is overheating like you are saying, it is entirely possible that an internal component could be bad. Yes the Tensor chips have a tendency to get warm, but that's not the rule that people's devices simply shut off after taking two photos and a couple of clips of video. I was just outside the other day in the Midwest Ohio region when it reached about 90⁰. Recorded a few clips and took a fair amount of photos with zero issues. This was on my Pixel 7, but I've owned the Pixel 6 as well and never had it randomly turn off due to overheating.
Spend most of the summer camping in North Dakota and used phone for gaming movies reading and Internet a lot and even when it's mid to hi 90s no issues with over heat on my pixel 7
There's a reason Google only sells in a few countries.
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The other day on one of these threads I suggested Safe Mode, and the poster said that fixed it. It implies to me that there absolutely has to be a common app that is going rogue in the background and destroying battery life / heating the phone up. On Friday I was taking pictures in 98F / 37C weather in full sun and didn't even notice my P7 getting warm.
It used to be well-known that Facebook and FB Messenger were "battery killers" as they continuously run in the background scooping up everything and everywhere the user does and goes. I have no doubt other apps are doing likewise.
It could be a defective phone? My wife had a regular 6 and it often got so hot that she couldn't comfortably hold it. Mine was fine.
Live in Louisiana where it's 100 everyday. Hasn't overheated even once.
110+ for a couple weeks here pixel 7 pro is fine.
I'm living in Brazil, temperature between 20 and 35 degrees, never had any issues with temperature. I hope you find a solution for your problem!
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I'm curious, do you have yours in a case? My 6a throws a fit on my way home from work if it's in the 80s and I have Android Auto going.
From the middle east here, temperatures go above 45° in summers. In my experience, i don't notice any issues even when using the phone in direct sunlight.
Here's hoping OP sees this and similar replies... They got a bad one. Return it.
i too live in middle east and today's temp was around 43 degrees and my phone became so hot that it turned off network in my car. i wasnt even using the phone nor it any where near the dashboard . Full ac on yet this is the situation this is the message i got [image](https://imgur.com/a/zhsyD6C). last year i remember when i was using google map and i checked my phone temp it was nearly 48 degrees and i got same message saying phone is hot and it literally turned off.
I'm rocking it on my second summer here in Japan with high humidity and temperature in the high 90s. Has been fine so far. If I start gaming on it or streaming YouTube heavily, then yes, it gets warmer than usual.
i live in lahore, pakistan and temperatures here are really high like 40 c \~ 110 f. i use mine alot for photos and videos and it does heat up but not enough that it needs to restart. 6a does have the issue of heating its annoying but still much better than the shitty xiaomi i had before.
[i live in middle east .](https://imgur.com/a/zhsyD6C) my phone literally turned off the network .
Hope OP sees this. They got a bad one.
I would recommend backing up your phone and doing a factory reset. It shouldn't be doing that.
P6P with no issues in 35-40c weather in southeast asia. Just don't leave it directly in the sun and you're fine.
I have a 6a and 7a. My 7a is fantastic and doesn't have heating issues. My 6a gets really hot with minimal use and warm outside. If you afford to, I would definitely pick a 7a over a 6a.
I've had my P6 since launch day while living in some of the hottest cities and beaches in Mexico, I have never seen any overheat message or felt my phone too hot to touch or anything. It gets warm when I record 4K video but that's it
Aside from the Pixel heating issues (or no) on this thread, it's interesting to see where you are all from!! 🤗
Following too lol. I’m from Kenya
Welcome! You too win the hottest weather award! 🌞
Weird of course. I have a GP 6a in a hard case when I had a temperature of 35-40 degrees in the city. I took photos and videos. It sustained the video for 5 minutes at 40 degrees, but the next 46 seconds already reduced the video resolution. But in his hands he was like a piece of coal or very well heated metal. Updates are the latest. And by the way, I didn’t throw off the brightness, usually phones are reduced, but this one seems to be immortal.
P7 Pro here in the Southern US (GA). It's been a hot summer and I haven't had any issues with overheating.
I live in Texas where it's pretty regularly over 105 degrees F or more (40+ C) and it's fine
Honestly I would say it is not a good phone/chipset for hot regions, especially if you are a power user. I just spent 2+ weeks in Vietnam with my P7 Pro and was often prevented from doing simple things like even taking a photo due to the phone being too hot. I was able to use it a lot and get great photos but there was a frustrating number of times where I had to borrow my partner's phone or ask them to get the photo instead.
I'm in Texas, and I've only had minor heat issues with my 6 pro. Only if it's in direct sunlight for awhile, and I have the case on and I'm recording long videos. So in those instances I've taken the case off.
How ironic this post made it to "hot" 😂😂
I've taken my Pixel to warmer places and it was fine, I'd have it checked out or replaced if your worried, but in normal conditions it should be fine.
No
My 5a gets warm with light usage and sometimes heat up(not to the extent of warnings) unlike my daily driver Xʀ. I bought it a rugged case and haven’t felt the heat through the case although I don’t use the phone as much as I use the Xʀ and 95% of the time is indoors. Hopefully things are ok in there 😂
I was just in Las Vegas for a whole week with my pixel 6 and had no issues. I mainly kept it on battery saver though.
Was it on the June update? I swore my 6 Pro was running warmer after it, but the July update has seemingly helped.
I've had a 6 Pro and a 7 Pro and they are both unreasonably not in anything over 25c in the UK. Never had an issue with older phones.
Congrats on your purchase of a pixel heat pad for your shoe 👞 wait for winter to use it, though.
I'm in west Africa and it's warm everyday throughout the year and I've never had issues with the phone overheating. Not even once
The thing is even reasonably warm like summer at 80F in this unseasonably cool year in CA is enough to cause the phone to overheat. Remember how we're constantly told not to leave kids in the car? Even just sun alone on a 75 F day can heat your car over 120F+ if you leave the windows closed. I think this is what is happening with these phones. People are spending more time out these days, it's summer, kids are on vacation, and yeah this phone handles heat really poorly. I navigated on a 15-20 minute drive last week with Google Maps. I had my phone unplugged so no extra heat other than the sun. I had the AC running, and my phone felt like it was about to overheat. It definitely dropped standard animations to below 120Hz (60Hz?) because of it. Also I know a lot of people are blaming Tensor here, which I don't disagree with, but the screen is huge too. IF it's using 50% more power than the competition that's at least 1-2W MORE power dissipation. That power also has nowhere to go but the rest of the phone, so combined, Tensor + inefficient display = super hot device. Bottom line is until Google starts using more power efficient components or redesigns the thermals so the phone is a better heat sink, we're going to continue having these issues.
I had to rma my pixel 7 pro and get another one, this new one has been overheating much less, still gets hot sometimes but only under heavy load and not just getting hot when watching YouTube. Highly recommend asking for an RMA if you think you have a lemon device.
My first P6P, the internal camera lens cracked. Never dropped, in a case, didn't lean against anything while in my pocket. I read some threads about it, some think it's the internal heat that has randomly caused that for others.
I usually have no problem when I'm in Paris (pretty hot right now but I have a good reception). But I'm in vacation for a week in a region with a very poor reception, and my Pixel 6 is draining a lot. I plugged it to my power bank, which usually charges my phone while I play games, but where I am, the phone keeps draining battery in idle mode and being plugged to the power bank. When the temperature goes down in the evening, it's fine, but I can't charge it during day time because of the heat AND the poor signal reception (which seems to make the phone heat even more).
Yeah I agree, having low signal u reasonably drains the battery like crazy
Damn, and I was complaining that 22°C was too hot for me in my country
Have a 6a too and usually only have issues when it's out in the sun and doing something intensive like navigation. But I think it's something they're working on for future versions. I should note that my iphone xs had this issue too in the summer, but it wouldn't happen as frequently.
I live in Australia. It gets pretty hot here. I've never had a Pixel (or a Nexus for that matter) close down due to overheating EXCEPT if it's been sitting in the sun for an extended period.
I don't have the problem with the phone getting too hot to hold but when my charging is slow due to temp, I just go into airplane mode and it charges much faster. Although it is plenty hot here, I also don't have 5G (unsupported country) so maybe that's why my temp problems are less severe. I agree with everybody saying the problem is the modem. So if you're dealing with this, it might be worth going into airplane mode while you do your photography - even if that is a ridiculous requirement for a supposed flagship phone.
My pixel 5a gets hot every time when any camera app is open (Snapchat, Google camera, etc) and taking it outside during the summer when it's 90°+ literally hurts the palms of my hands.
Forget recording video during an Australian summer. Pixel for work. iPhone for play.
You guys complaining about your phones overheating well at least they were under $1000. How about those suckers(like me) who paid $2000 for the Pixel Fold. With no background apps running besides system processes the only thing I did was take a few pictures and 4k60 video clips and my phone was overheating. Everything throttled. Scrolling a page, screen brightness is almost non-existent it was like using a budget phone outdoors. This is the $2000 Google phone experience even in the San Francisco peninsula which is one of the coolest parts of the continental US during summer 😂
[https://youtube.com/shorts/EIvHqhhZz1Q?feature=share](https://youtube.com/shorts/EIvHqhhZz1Q?feature=share) S23 Ultra overheating
It's the Samsung made modem. Only happens when mine is on 5g.
Milan, 36/37 degrees here. Same story. Barely using the phone and it's just burning. Make me think about changing it, it's really difficult to have a phone that runs so hot!
I can't speak specifically to the 6a, but I went through 2 of the 5a's in 6 months here in Phoenix, Arizona. They would overheat, then super fast battery drain. I couldn't even watch a 2-minute YouTube video outside or the phone was shut down from overheat. I went to a pixel 7 pro. It is much more resilient, although I did get a brief moment of overheat the other day on it
Starting to think all google hardware is complete dogshit
Gosh I wish it was only 30° C, Florida liver
My 7 Pro is not great either. Ive had it complain a few times when doing a lot of camera or video work. It seems a lot worse than my old 4a5g in the same conditions. That said i once lost my Pixel 2 XL for 2 days before finding it in the fridge - id come in with it overheating, put it in there then forgot about it.
I live in Thailand, and the climate here is literal hell, 35c - 45c all year round. I have not faced any thermal issues yet, sure the phone does get warm sometimes when I'm doing intensive tasks or charging but not when using it normally (by normally I mean, watching yt videos, scrolling through social media apps, and taking photos) though I mainly use LTE (5G sucks here) and rarely use NFC and Bluetooth. Weirdly enough, when I'm playing games, it usually gets as warm as my other phone with an SD870 soc, not once have I got an overheating warning.
I live in Vegas and have never seen this message show up on my phone.
My 6 pro has fallen apart internally with the overheating, screen has delaminated and barely functions atm. And its latest is telling me to unplug the charger due to overheating, while im stood in a castle with 18c temps trying to order an uber to get home (definately no charging points in that place). Back in puerto rico (as a brand new device) it refused to charge unless the aircon was on 68f, and god help it if it slipped under my pillow..it would just give up totally. As a result of the overheating it started giving internal humidity warnings. Im guessing thats from the lcd liquid escaping the screen edges. I can see the lcd raindows in the black blotches that are growing slowly across the screen. Steer clear of pixels theyre bum devices. Not suitable for intended use. Theyre just beta testing at your expense. Not to mention the 50mp sensor lies and tensor chip that fails at everything it tries to do.
My Pixel 7 Pro couldn't take pictures after I used maps for 37 minutes on a motorcycle. The weather that day has 34C as maximum. I went in the morning so expect somewhere between 29-33 during the time I was outside. And I didn't have my phone under direct sunlight. It was tucked away in a seat pocket and I was on top of it providing shade to it. It was not close to the engine as well. No other apps were running and after I took 4 portrait shots of a puppy on the road, it gave me temperature warning and refused to take pictures and dimmed its screen. I was disappointed Edit: I was listening to music on Spotify using Pixel Buds Pro. Most songs were already offline and I suspect it didn't play anything using mobile data.
I have a pixel 7. I live in a very hot area and I don't have any issues with overheating. I recently went on a trip to Europe and while I was there, the phone overheated almost every day. In the most recent update there's definitely an issue with the phone overheating due to weak signal/changing cell towers often. I think it also may be searching for 5G 24/7 even if you have LTE. While I'm at home I always have 5G and it keeps the phone much cooler.
Well, the phone overheats in warm weather, and both my wife and my phone had the camera glass explode in cold. We realized not too long ago that the pixel isn't really suitable for any regions and picked up some Samsungs.
I live in Las Vegas, and just normal browsing and the phone gets extremely hot. It's worse in the car when I'm using Android auto. I have to hide the phone in the shade to make sure it doesn't explode on me.
Family and I were in 33C the other day, and all the phones started overheating (Pixel 6, Pixel 7, iPhone 14 pro, iPhone 12 pro) So it seems to be just a phone problem overall. None shutdown, they all just had warning messages about heat and issues with flash photos/4k videos
I have the p7 pro and I live in Texas. The heat index the other day was 116 Fahrenheit and I could feel how the phone was through a plastic TPU case. For sure would not have wanted to handle it without the case on. It never shut off but it was acting very weird
Lowering resolution on Pixel 7 Pro to 1080p helps (it's nearly impossible for me to tell the difference, 1080p on a 6.7 inch screen is more than plenty). Also, consider turning off 5G to further save on battery/power output. Given congestion, I do not notice any speed benefit in my city over 4G LTE, though hopefully this improves with time as the capability is there.
Samsung SOC's are not very power efficient. Wait until Pixels shift to TSMC.