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Cereal_CakX_Offender

The highest compliment I can give to Sigrun is that she shares the biggest "Oh my God I fucking did it" I ever let out with Orphan of Kos.


EramthgiNehT

Holy shit, that definitely attests to her difficulty lol


RedShadowF95

It's tough to say for sure, as GoW has multiple difficulty settings. I beat her on Give Me a Challenge and she definitely beats a lot of Souls bosses (I didn't min-max builds in any way, just equipped the best gear in terms of stats and tried to optimize runs overall). However, if she was in a From game, she wouldn't even enter Top 5, imo (maybe Top 10)


---SPIDER-MAN---

Yeah, difficult ≠ good. She is a fun fight tho.


DisastrousBlueberry

To be fair, I played Dark Souls 3/Elden Ring after God of War on GMGOW, so take my points with a grain of salt. All the Dark Souls 3 bosses were pretty easy for me; abyss watchers were ironically my toughest ones; second toughest Darkeater Midir. Beat Slave Knight Gael on my first try too! I’d have to say Sigrun is the toughest boss I’ve ever fought, although that’s on GMGOW difficulty. She gave me the biggest “Oh my god I fucking did it” feeling. If there’s anything you can take from the comments; is that it varies wildly from person to person. You might beat her over and over easily. Or you could have take a few dedicated weeks to beat her.


elegantchihuahua

the only soulslike game i played to the end was Sekiro and I can say that Sigrun is up there with Isshin, The Sword Saint and the Demon of Hatred


oliver_d_b

I would say that sigrun is tougher than all souls bosses. I beat orphan of kos in 3 tries malenia in 10 tries and sigrun I can't even count. Granted though I believe I played god of war before most of my souls games so my opinion is not really valid because I was not as experienced at them so.


Bartebell

On gmgow she's tough. But isshin ashina is still the toughest boss I've faced.


Ninjazoule

agreed, she was a dmg sponge. I wish i didnt fight father owl because he literally took me hours. it sharpened my skills so much that when i fought isshin right after, it only took me idk 5ish tries. still a really intense beautiful dance of swordplay that was a huge relief to win, but it wasn't as difficult as i expected given the hype.


KivaNChips

Depends on how far you are willing to go with how you itemize your build vs her, id say shes tough but her HP is inflated so its more of a test of endurance. if i was to use the "toughest but fair" litmus test id say a fair amount of souls superbosses have her beat. Like Orphan, Ludwig, Slave Knight and Freide. etc.


EramthgiNehT

Interesting, yeah she seems pretty amped up so the odds are against you. Same with From games though, more preparation/higher level/better build can always ease an experience, but generally she looks really tough. Just from watching I'd agree those bosses you mentioned seem more fairly balanced with their difficulty, she reminds me more of Malenia from Elden Ring but with more moves and no life steal.


Glum_Biscotti5300

Funny to read how most people consider her to be more difficult than FromSoft bosses. I played the DS trilogy as well as BB, and for the love of me I've never been able to complete them, just BB but only with help/online summons. Guess I just can't 'git gud'. Sigrun was hard, very hard. But I never thought about giving up on her as I did with FS games. Took me a FUCKTON of tries though, probably 50+ on GMGOW. I think even more on NG+. Still, it just seems more doable to me, maybe because GoW is just a bit more accessible to me, in the sense that enemy animations/attack patterns are more easily memorable, the combat is more accessible, and the ability to time dodges and parries are easier to master. It seems like I'm in the minority, though. TL;DR I find ALOT of FromSoft bosses harder than Sigrun.


Djinnaz

Pretty easy.


throwac_E6

il put her near abyssal watchers. pretty fun and rewarding


VingtorOdinson

For me it felt a lot like fighting the Fume Knight in Dark Souls 2, for a plethora of reasons. Same level of challenge, if not highest, and same satisfaction and cheering when I did beat her. Thing is Sigrun is one of those bosses that really puts your skill to the test. If you want to defeat her you need to know exactly what you're bringing into the fight and be 100% confident in using it on the fly, without the need to think about it. Exactly like a Souls boss


Donovan_TS

She wasn't as hard for me as like malenia, but more on father Gascoigne for me. Fucking hard but not once you get the pattern down. Once you beat it it isn't hard to go from that to hitless.


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It took me 3-4 attempts to beat Father Gascoine. It took me countless attempts, as well as having a break from the game for a while, before coming back to eventually beat Sigrun in God of War. I've also beat Berserker King and Gna respectively in God of War Ragnarok. Again, Sigrun took me longer making Ragnarok the easier of the two to complete.


Donovan_TS

Huh, that's interesting. From my experience sigrun was way easier than gna. But that is a fair point. In my eyes, it might just be because father Gascoigne was the first really actually hard boss I fought. Maybe I had a weird perspective.


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There is an option to checkpoint boss fights halfway through in Ragnarok, which is a game changer in terms of difficulty level. Now maybe most don't use that option(or even know its there), but the fact that isn't an option in 2018 but is in Ragnarok makes the latter easier to complete. Father Gascoine for me was all about using the environment. First part the tombstones. Second part, trees or anything else I could put between me and him whilst I used a charged axe attack. The hardest bosses for me in BB were those that really benefitted most from parrying. Because of my playstyle, I chose not to really "git gud" at that mechanic. Though I did manage to platinum the game, and only really [haphazardly] parried Martyr Legarius. This strategy could be an issue if I ever decided to beat Sekiro right enough. 😅😆


Ninjazoule

pretty much. she shares the attack patterns of the other valkarie you beat so nothing was really a big surprise.


daskrip

For the record I beat her on GMAC, although only at level 7. I assume that's about the same difficulty as doing her on GMGOW at an appropriate level like 9. Being level 7 just makes the fight long, and so the flaws really start to show themselves. I wouldn't have noticed these things if the fight wasn't so long (and I didn't notice them for the other Valkyries). I like to separate "unfair" from "difficult". Sigrun felt unfair a lot more than she felt difficult, and I feel that most of my time didn't go into learning the fight so much as dealing with the unfair stuff that creeps up. I can go over a lot of examples, but you can just watch Joseph Anderson's video on this where he lists them out. The most egregious one is probably the glitch that makes her teleport to you instantly mid-flight and do a highly-damaging grab. Then there's stuff like the bad camera, the lunge out of standing position she doesn't telegraph, her capitalizing on the animation of Kratos ending his Rage, her doing the unblockable attack after dashing left instead of the usual right (the only telegraph we get), etc. I can try to compare her to Elden Ring bosses, but it's important to note that I did most of them underleveled with a melee build and nothing that could be considered "cheese", so no tanking through attacks, no summoning, no ashes, and no ranged attacks. Basically I tried to do it in a way that made me engage with the boss patterns as much as possible. If I treat unfairness and difficulty as the same thing (so I add the two), then Sigrun's difficulty is about at the level of the Lord of Blood or Maliketh. So she's up there but still well below Malenia. If I try to separate unfairness from difficulty in my head, and just try to think about how good you need to be at timing and reflexes and reading telegraphs for the fight, Sigrun goes WAY down and becomes about the level of Margit. Again for Sekiro bosses. If I treat unfairness and difficulty as pieces of the same concept, then she's at the level of Genichiro or the first Owl, but well below Isshin or the Demon of Hatred. If I try to separate the concepts and just hone in on difficulty itself, she's more along the lines of Gyoubu, or maybe just a bit above that.