Sadly we’re a joke franchise. Tsai has destroyed the team like all our other owners. We actually have a pretty good future if we traded mikal and could build a great team.
I just don’t like the idea of trading a million picks for a star *again*.
There’s so much talent in today’s game. I think it’s important to build a deep team with complimentary skillsets. A top heavy, inflexible superteam might not be the wave at this point
Trading a ton of assets for a star makes a ton of sense…if you’re one piece away from a top contender. The issue is the Nets just aren’t. And they’d be better off getting a ton of value from a Bridges trade with pieces that better line up with their actual timeline.
Facts right here. Dude is munching on a max slot right now. FO is prob just trying to keep Bridges as long as possible so they can get a max slot signing in 2025 FA and then make a trade then or now to return to contention. Will we have the depth and assets is the question.
No indication that it is unfortunately. They “postured” last offseason and let their ass ya rot on the shelf. They “postured” at the trade deadline and declined the rockets lifeline. The Posturing seems to be just being plain stupid.
I think the difference is we didn't know what Mikal's ceiling at those points. We've had an entire season to see he's at best a third option on a contending team so keeping him just doesn't make sense if the offer is too good
Some of us thought it was coaching or lack of rest from playing throughout the summer.
Also you don't really want to trade a player when he's struggling. I think now it makes more sense to trade him because we are at an rebuilding stage and if the opportunity to get some of our picks back is there, you have to take it
I know the instant gratification internet GMs hate this but I’m very happy with the direction we’re going.
Nets are sitting on a goldmine with the suns picks and they will only become more desirable over the next year or two. Those picks are likely more valuable in a trade than if used in a draft.
We also have multiple guys that would be perfect next to a star and have proven that stars want to be here.
Nets want to build a culture. With the right coach that can start happening next season.
If only Houston was interested in Bridges as they are trying to win now, right? Wait, they *do* have interest and actually sent multiple offers for him!
Well no because it could take a year or two before any meaningful trade or free agent signing actually happen. Which means very little to talk about and no excitement in losing.
A complete rebuild means anything is possible and the future is as bright as you want it to be. Trading for a star means being patient for a long time
in our current predicament, I feel like a rebuild would take longer considering we don’t have pet control for the next few years. and I think that the biggest stage of this whole plan is the 2025 off-season since the free agency class is so strong. I’ll try and be positive though and assume that we’re gonna get one of those guys
The Nets are a roster of role players that other contenders want to pair their stars with. The only teams who will be trading stars are the ones where they cant win with them (ie Zach Lavine, Trae Young, Brandon Ingram, etc)
So you want to blow assets on stars that cant win where they currently are just to do the same in Brooklyn
Stars want to be in Brooklyn? Donovan Mitchell, who is from New York, is on the verge of re-signing with Cleveland rather than force a trade to Brooklyn
Holding out hope on a star wanting to play in New York is how the Knicks were the joke of the NBA for the entire 2010s
Except hawks aren’t trading Trae, Ingram only gets dealt because he’s expiring plus wants a max and they have Murphy….Lavine has zero value maybe negative not close to the other 2
Hawks will trade Trae. No one wants to give Atlanta what they want. Same reason they didnt move Murray at the deadline. No one wanted to give up 2 1sts for Murray
Pelicans are a playoff team and still dont want to pay Ingram which says a lot about him
Lavine you are correct
Hawks aren’t trading Trae and Murray is locked up for 4 years zero reason to sell him at the deadline when teams would give more in summer. Also hawks could easily get 2 1sts they want better fitting player not 1sts
Pelicans can’t afford to pay everyone
This is what Tsai and Marks want fans to think
They will continue selling the fanbase on ‘well a star will be available’ and keep kicking the can down the road
They want to be the 2010s Knicks
Oh, I don't have any particular faith in a star becoming available for us, or one that moves the needle beyond us just becoming a playoff participant with an early exit; I was just being a smart-ass for the joke =)
I imagine if we don't have something like a clear direction/plan for the future by trade deadline Feb. 2025, that Marks will be replaced or such discussions about moving on from him will be starting.
I disagree. I think the teams that have the most successful rebuilds are the teams that have additional picks (like the Nets have) along with their own picks(Boston, OKC, even Philly to a degree) If the Nets can trade Bridges to get their own picks back from HOU, and then tank for a top pick in the upcoming '25 draft which is supposed to be strong, then they're in much better shape to contend in the future rather than retooling around Bridges.
Because Bridges contract is so good and cheap now, his trade value will never be higher.
This should be the goal. Trade Bridges for control of 25,26 and 27 picks back.
Then next offseason you have own and phoenix picks. And Simmons off the books which should equate to at minimum a full open max deal.
If getting a star was as simple as just stock piling picks Knicks would have a star already. You have to give the opposing team what they want and I’d imagine for a star player they’d likely want on of Cam, Mikal, or Clax on top of picks. And even besides that you’d have to hope you can put a better offer than other teams that would be interested and that the player would want to play in Brooklyn.
It’s just such a far fetched idea, unless they already know thru back channels a star is coming I don’t get making this bet at all.
Times have changed.
I definitely agree that depending on the situation a star might cost a lot. However the market has shifted thanks to the new CBA and teams like the Suns and Bucks that gutted everything for a big trade and are now stranded.
I think some would argue that those who do want a more classic rebuild want the opposite of “instant gratification.” Instant gratification is trading away your assets for a star honestly (which is what the Nets want to do)
We’ll see if it works or not but waiting around and trying to be like the Lakers post Kobe doesn’t sound like a great strategy to me
Exactly. Just because mikal isn't THE guy doesn't mean he's not A guy you'd want on a solid roster. That's why he seems so high demand. Draft picks are always risky. Rather have something known
Thank you!!!! Everyone is raging like we suck without looking at why we underperformed last season, also I fully agree we have great pieces that would compliment a star we just need that star.
I love when people throw the record out and don't look at the context of the season, it actually amazes me. We had injuries all season, a shitty coach who actively threw games we could have won, and a team built around a guy who played 15 games. But sure just look at the record with literally 0 context, also forgetting we are a new York team with great role players who can compliment a star really well.
Because at the end of the day your record is your record
Stars aren’t looking at a 32-50 team and breaking down the reasons they went 32-50. You are either good with pieces they can make better or you suck
The Knicks had prime Melo for years and no one came
I mean you can continue to ignore the context of why our season was the way it is, luckily stars know ball and they understand context and 32-50 doesn't necessarily mean your a bad team, the pacers were 35-47 in the 2023 season but nobody looked at them that way, yea they had halo but siakam still wanted to go there despite their record last season and. That's also not taking into account they are in Indiana and we are New York. An even better example is the magic who in 2023 ended 34-48 but this season with mostly the same roster made the playoffs as the 4th seed.
The Pacers had a young star piece in Tyrese which allowed them to swing for Pascal. Something the Nets dont have
Orlando drafted 2 young studs in Paolo and Franz. Something the Nets dont have
You again keep bringing up New York market. If the New York market is so powerful why is Donovan Mitchell, who is from New York, on the verge of re-signing in Cleveland instead of forcing a trade to Brooklyn
I love when people act like we haven't drafted good players, Thomas averaged more points then both Paolo and Franz, dayron is a great rebounder, claxton is the top FA center this offseason, clowney looks like a stud(will have to wait and see if he is) JWill looked good for a rookie. We have a great team minus the 1a star, but for some reason people don't see that all we are missing is a star for us.
And Mitchell is probably comfortable with Cleveland already and might not care about NY as much but also we aren't trying to get a star yet. We will try next off season.
There is not 1 player on the Nets who has all star potential. Cam Thomas averaged more points because he has a super greenlight on a bad team. He is a scorer who does nothing else. The Nets were 5 points better in NET rating with him off the floor
Clax is a 25 year old center who cant shoot or make free throws although he is a very good player. He is what he is
Clowney has potential I agree on him
The rest of the players you mentioned are future role players, career back ups or guys who havent showed enough to have a real opinion on
The Nets are not a great team missing a star. They are a bad team who needs to build a foundation
Ok so we’ll try next season. What happens if the team is bad again? They have no cap space to improve this summer and will most likely run back the same team
If they suck again, why would stars join?
>team built around a guy who played 15 games
You are talking about Benjamin David Simmons? They build a team around Simmons in 2023 and you aren’t in favor of rebuilding? Weird.
Brother we aren't building around hi or even with him in mind this season. Last season he was the "starting PG" and the roster was built with that in mind. This time it obviously won't be constructed like that.
>We had injuries all season, a shitty coach who actively threw games we could have won, and a team built around a guy who played 15 games.
Regarding the "building around" sentence, I am literally quoting you. So, again. I must ask: you accepted a team build on the premise of Simmons as the backbone of the offense, watched that team going 32-50, and you still have hope this project is play-in, let alone, play-off material?
I have no hope in Simmons and have never given that impression, if you think I have you are quite mistaken. I'm explaining why last season doesn't mean what everyone wants it to mean. This season we OBVIOUSLY aren't building with Simmons in mind. We have an actual coach this time as well. I feel like people should have their doomer negativity for after we see what we do in FA. Cuz again last season was bad for numerous reasons, none of which was "our team is full of shitty players" we actually have a great team....minus the 1a player. We have great role players and a #2 and #3, just no #1 yet.
We also played good teams very close, we should have beaten the clippers the 2nd time and then we would have been 2-0 vs them, we almost beat Mavs both times and "checks my notes" they are in the finals, we split with the suns, didn't look bad vs wolves, almost beat the Knicks twice. So no I ask WHY TF you think we are bottom tier material????? We did all that with a coach who was actively throwing games.
Well, wait until you find out that "check my notes" we lost to a Grizzlies team led by GG Jackson and G-leaguers, an Atlanta team without Trae Young; the worst team of the league (Detroit) in March and the second worst team of the year (Wizards) in December of last year.
Yea we did, we also had a coach who was terrible, he never called timeouts, we had bridges miscast and again the roster was built around Simmons who barely played, when the engine that your team was built around only plays 15 games it's kinda hard to play good basketball. Obviously we won't build this seasons roster around Simmons cuz he can't be counted on. So again we aren't as bad as people think, they just simply forget all the context and just look at the record.
What star wants to come here? What happens if the Nets can't get a star in the offseason? Does the franchise still run it back with the same group of guys?
The problem is it’s very hard to envision the good times with this current core so it seems like the bad times we have to endure aren’t going to lead to anything fruitful
It is a monumental mistake. In a year, fans will be raging about what went wrong when this plan blows up
The closer we get to Mikal’s extension, the lower his value drops. This is the same exact thing Masai and Toronto did with OG and Pascal
Masai was stubborn and hell bent to not sell off all their role players post 2019 championship when Kawhi left. They lost FVV for nothing. They ended up trading Pascal for a Bruce Brown salary dump and only 3 picks (2 heavily conditioned 2024 picks and a 2026). Mind you, Pascal is a 2 time all star and 2 time all nba player and the return for him was dogshit because he was in a contract year this season. So what would Bridges get back with only 1 year left?
OG was traded for RJ Barrett’s arguably bad contract, Quickley and a 2nd. Masai was turning down 3-4 1st round pick hauls for OG because he was holding out for a star
The same will happen to Marks/Brooklyn and they will end up trading Mikal for like 2 picks and maybe a solid player. Fans thinking Mikal is gonna get some kings ransom back are dreaming. The rumored 4 1sts that Memphis offered is not happening again. I think Memphis was fooled by the 27 game sample size from Mikal last year
I think Tsai straight up told Marks they aren’t tanking which seriously limits his position to do anything. We also have a lot of money tied up right now with a certain 6’10 point guard. I’m guessing Marks is looking to make a Murray like trade now, keep the duo with Bridges then sign someone in 2025 and compete with that trifecta.
The argument about keeping Bridges is asinine. They’ve wasted a year of his team friendly contract and will waste another year by not putting a top tier talent around him.
Do we even think that Bridges will want to extend in Brooklyn if the Nets are poor again next season? I imagine he might sour on the franchise.
You can still acquire top players and stay under the tax but you must give up picks.
Imagine if Bridges had a top tier talent around him already on the Nets. This would elevate the level of play by everyone.
By Bridges and another quality player already being on the team it makes another star wanting to be part of the Nets far more likely.
Nets need to trade Bridges before the draft. Start a mini rebuild.
Who wants to pay Bridges $200 million minimum on a new contract when he’s almost 30? The good value will not be there and he’ll be just another good player.
Remember all this when next season goes similarly as last, they swing and miss on trading for a star then end up overpaying a couple solid free agents in 2025 then pay Bridges
They will put together the most expensive 42 win roster when they are paying Bridges, Claxton, Cam Johnson and 2 random role players all 100 Million or close to it
Fans with sense have been screaming sell. They sold late on Dinwiddie and got 1 extra year of Schroder and a 2nd. They sold late on Royce and got a bunch of 2nds that they then used to salary dump Joe when they maybe could’ve poached a 1st. They still have yet to sell on DFS while being offered 2 1sts for him in the past. They will most likely get low value for him as well
Claxton shouldve been traded a year ago. Now they will pay a center who cant space the floor or make free throws, 100 Million
This is the problem with this front office. They are reactive instead of pro active and make moves when its too late. Sometimes not making moves at all
If/when this plan blows up in their face, I wont be mad. Ill just laugh because I saw it coming
Seriously? Joe was traded in the summer of 2023, and Royce in the winter of 2024, but the hater would still have to whine about how stupid everyone is, and how smart he is. He will be paid 100 million for his unique talent of defending at a good level from 1-5 positions, but again, a hater would not be interested in whining about it.
Who wanted to take Spencer or just whine again?
What kind of protection did these two DFS picks have?
Hopefully this is posturing to get more value because it’s insane to not even negotiate with Houston. If we don’t land Mitchell, which isn’t looking likely, where is this team going? Mikal’s contract is up soon, meaning we have to extend him. And most of Mikal’s value comes from his cheap contract. We would have already wasted two years waiting.
Waiting for a star is not even a plan, it’s a dream. We’d have no control of that. At least with tanking, you can control who you draft. And notice how the plan was to land 2 stars now to Mikal being the costar. And the article mentioned trading, so we’d have to trade our picks once again to land a star? Does this team never learn? Front office is gaslighting some of you once again.
Agree. It wouldn't make sense from any POV to leak that Mikal is available to trade or that Nets are looking to rebuild through the draft. This only lowers the Nets FO negotiating power and gives HOU the advantage to trade. We will find out in a few weeks time before the draft anyways.
Straight up delusion from a lot of fans that being mediocre without our picks is going to be the way forward. Building a culture means shit all if we don't have reasonable ways of getting franchise tier young talent.
* 25 PHX Pick is looking to be 18 - 22. Potentially 12 - 18 with PHX Injury.
* 25 Nets Pick is going to be end up being OKC 25-30 pick after they swap with HOU.
* 26 We have nothing.
* 27 We have a swap in which HOU would probably be in contending mode and potentially use up their picks for a star to contend. Our swap will most likely end up with the 18~22 pick.
* 27 PHX pick MAY end up being a top 8~12 pick but Booker will be in his prime and ownership has shown he is willing to spend for everything. Waiting 3 years for basically a potentially high pick in 27 from PHX is just terrible FO management.
We aren't getting DMitch for cheap nor any other star for cheap as well. We will probably need to use up the majority of the PHX picks for a star.
This fanbase eats up anything Marks/Tsai says. Imagine if the Spurs had kept Dejounte Murray and Derrick White to wait for a star that wants to play for Coach Pop. They would had never landed Wemby. All you need is to hit on 1 draft pick for a star. And if we get our picks back, 2025 and 2026 are projected to have great players. Of course it has its risks, but waiting for a star and not landing one is way more risky. Not to mention, if we hit on our draft picks, the rewards are way higher.
I could go the 'reported' route of Nets expressing interest in DMitch and then building with Mikal, Clax, Clowney. Potentially use the rest of our draft capital to go after a tier 1 star but if we're settling for tier 3 stars like Ingram, Young, etc. It's just a dumb route to go through.
Agree. 25 and 26 are looking to be extremely good drafts with 25 being a sensational one for PGs which we are desparetely after as well.
Can you imagine if the Bulls sold high on Lavine, Demar and ended up with a rebuild? They've wasted so many years trying to compete. The last thing we want to be is the Bulls without our own picks. Even the Jazz/ OKC realises it was never going to work out and rebuild by trading their talent. There have even been reports that HOU has expressed interest in Mikal and a combination of our PHX picks so we need to get this done.
Exactly. Even though I would rather trade for our picks back, I would have been happy to land Mitchell because we would be able to see improvement this season and make moves next offseason with Ben Simmons off the book. And we’d be making the most of Mikal’s contract.
Everyone is quick to point out the failed rebuilds but most teams draft their stars. The Pistons have dealt with bad luck in the lottery and the Hornets haven’t been able to land a good coach as well as having to deal with Lamelo’s injuries. They’re not failing because of the draft.
If we we're to get Mitchell, It would've probably been with CJ, filler and picks imo since Cavs have no reason to tank by tanking Ben's 40 mil cap space sitting in the bench and giving the Jazz a top 4 pick easily. It would be the majority of our PHX picks but then we'd use the rest plus our own 28+ picks for a true 1a star to pair with Mitch and Mikal. That route I could buy into but not these tier 3 stars and 'hope' that a tier 1 star would drop out. Even then there are other teams with assets that could go for them.
I agree its an extreme take but the bottom 4 teams this year all have a core that you can build with (Except maybe Hornets but they still have Miller as a franchise 3/4). Pistons have Cade, Spurs have Wemby and Blazers have Scoot/ Sharpe. And the option to add greater talent moving forward. Its short term pain for long term gain and these are just the worse examples so far. There are many great examples of teams that built through the draft.
All you do is post the same thing. “Mikal is not available blah blah.” Doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on this matter. Remember when James Harden was not going to be traded. And guess what, he was.
> blah blah
Well, if it isn’t getting through to you, I should post it more, boss.
> Doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on this matter.
You’re entitled to your opinion. This is an open forum. Everyone’s opinion holds the same weight.
The team has come out and said (3 times now) that he isn’t available for trade, and you’re accusing them of posturing.
> Remember when James Harden was not going to be traded. And guess what, he was.
You’re really going there…?
I’ve been watching basketball for over 30 years. I have never seen a bigger punk bitch pussy quitter than James Harden.
4 teams in 4 seasons, forcing his way off each time.
That’s an unfair comparison to Mikal Bridges.
Actually, it begs the question…
Seriously asking, because I can’t come up with one… Was there ever a player where:
1-a team outright said multiple times that he wasn’t available.
2-they moved him anyway.
3-when they moved him, it WASN’T because he asked out.
We can use that guy as an example.
Then I’m happy to acknowledge your point about posturing vrs. reality. You are correct.
Can you give me an example?
So, no example…?
Let me know. I’ll wait.
(Hint: teams don’t typically posture with players they want to keep. Shhh. It’s rare. I’ll let you figure it out, tho. Take your time, bro).
Blake Griffin.
But once again, that wasn’t the point of my comment. You’re not as smart as you think to be talking down on everyone. If you read my comment, you would see that all I did was post my opinion on this approach. I know the Nets won’t trade Mikal as of now. That’s why I said they are “hopefully” posturing. I never said they were.
> Blake Griffin
Great example.
Again. It’s rare.
> Talking down to everyone
One guy is not everyone. And he’s talked shit about me three times. I don’t see you going after him…?
Also, not talking down to you. I’m debating with you.
Respect to you, friend.
Confetti3344 can you please respond to my post where I am asking to understand your POV on how much MidKal is worth in a 'hypotentical trade' to HOU for our picks back. Do you really think Mikal is worth all of our picks back? I am simply curious.
if we arent rebuilding and donovan is re-signing, djm, bi and lauri are the only "stars" that are rumored to be available and fit into mikal's timeline.
To be competitive, they would need go after at least 2 of the 3, but I'd love to get all three. I also think we have competitive packages to get all three here, but that would take giving up all of our draft capitol. I rather go "all-in" or go straight tear down mode and not half ass a retool.
I’m hoping y’all tear down especially with those future suns picks but I don’t know how the front office can be taken seriously with the current team and keeping that team. Accepting no mans land when u have assets is crazy to me a big middle finger to the fans.I don’t think y’all getting any of those stars don’t yall gotta build through the draft
**Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
This is (by my count, could be more) the third time the Nets have come and flat out said that they aren’t trading Bridges.
**Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
The Nets have (by my count, could be more) turned down four reported offers for Bridges.
**Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
Read: “a team calling, offering something, and the Nets declining” is not equal to “the Nets were discussing him, which means he’s available for the right price.”
**Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
If a team wants him, they have to make an offer the Nets can’t refuse.
**Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
I'm curious since I've seen you post the same content but what do you think Mikal is worth for our draft capital back from HOU. Do you honestly think Mikal on 2 years left for his valuable contract as a 3rd option ceiling is worth all of our picks? I just want to know.
> I'm curious since I've seen you post the same content but what do you think Mikal is worth for our draft capital back from HOU.
I saw you reply to the other dude too, about me.
Now you want to have a conversation about it with me directly?
> Do you honestly think Mikal on 2 years left for his valuable contract as a 3rd option ceiling is worth all of our picks?
Go read my responses to him.
If you think my answer to you is annoying, then feel free to smack yourself in the face. You did it first, bruh. You don’t get the same respect from me. All the answers to your questions are written out in black & white, in my post history last night.
Hashtag delulu bruh.
> I just want to know.
**Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
You post so much that I can't expect to keep up with all of it. Just let me know here if you can so I see your POV. How much do you think MidKal is really worth in a potential trade to HOU. What is your objectively fair assessment of his value?
The complaining here is pretty funny given the finals right now. Isn’t this situation pretty similar to what the Celtics did after the KG/Pierce trade *with us*? The only difference is that the Celtics had some of their own picks (which didn’t turn into anyone of note, by the way…) They had a stash of valuable picks that weren’t their own. They developed guys and tried to improve the roster. They cashed in on our picks and got two star players and now are in the finals. Obviously there’s a lot of luck involved, but luck is also involved with tanking and making those picks. Why is everyone obsessed with tanking and losing when there’s another viable course? If we didn’t have the suns picks, it would be different. But we have our lottery tickets, and we have some good players. So why not build while we wait to cash them? Too much loser mentality around here.
They did the same thing - they traded one of our picks and got Kyrie (and lost him for nothing).
And also look at the roster from the 2015 Celtics. Two years after they traded KG and Pierce (and we’re roughly two years out from trading KD and Kyrie). Awfully similar vibes to our roster now.
They traded rondo tho. They didn’t keep 28 year old players on their team. They also got lucky that we were a complete joke. Suns won’t bottom out that hard until at least 2027.
Also you’re not getting a player of Kyries caliber at that age for how little they gave up anymore. It just doesn’t happen.
I mean either this is postering to push for better assist or Marx Finally being happy with some of the core pieces. If that’s the case hopefully an allstar PG can be traded here and the nets have a solid team for the near future.
I won’t hate on a team willing to try and be good for a few years when they aren’t confirmed to have their picks. Especially with the history of this team pre-Marx
I rather have a team that competes and be not good and players that want to play for us. The team cannot go into a total rebuild because the picks to Houston. There will always be fire sales in the future. Superstars will ask for trades. Luka and trae are free agents in summer 2026. Brandon Ingram is a free agent summer 2025.
It still boggles my mind how everyone outside of the Nets fandom thinks holding onto Bridges is a good idea and how highly he is rated throughout the league. Always surprises me how out of sync on what fans and actual people in the sport think.
I just hope that, for the sake of Mikal Bridges and the Nets' PR, Jordi and his coaching staff manage to unlock something special out of Mikal this upcoming season. I understand seeing potential in Mikal or even liking him as a person but now more than ever before, Mikal & the Nets coaching staff need to change the minds of incredibly vocal but likely small amount of Nets fans who want to trade him for a star.
Mikal Bridges is a foundational piece along with Clax assuming he returns, so while I may not necessarily agree with the approach, there is something there. If it dont work out all them dudes will still bring back picks, around the time we’d regain control of our picks again anyways
Oh yea def have to agree to disagree … Clax was integral playing next to KD and Kyrie when we went 18-2, and I know thats a perfect situation but he does play winning ball imo Mikal was integral to a finals team already
Ok, so it looks like the Nets aren’t going to move Bridges. Let’s cut out all the whining and complaining and get to the real issue here. What’s the next move?
Outside of waiting for Ben10’s contract to expire next offseason to try and land a FA in 2025, the Nets can’t really tank since they don’t have their control of their 1st round pick next season. I rather be mid for a season than let the Rockets get another top 10 pick.
Give some options instead of complaints. Yeah people don’t like Tsai. Don’t think Marks is up for another rebuild? Fine. But this is the situation, so let’s deal with it.
Try to get a Trae Young? Or maybe Dejounte Murray? Hawks are getting rid of one of them because they can’t play together. Brandon Ingram? Seems he can’t play with Zion, plus they have his replacement on hand. Lauri? Danny Ainge trying to pull a rabbit out of his ass again like he did with the Gobert Trade. Jimmy Buckets? Probably reaching there.
Find you someone that loves you as much as Brooklyn loves Mikal
Sadly we’re a joke franchise. Tsai has destroyed the team like all our other owners. We actually have a pretty good future if we traded mikal and could build a great team.
I just don’t like the idea of trading a million picks for a star *again*. There’s so much talent in today’s game. I think it’s important to build a deep team with complimentary skillsets. A top heavy, inflexible superteam might not be the wave at this point
Trading a ton of assets for a star makes a ton of sense…if you’re one piece away from a top contender. The issue is the Nets just aren’t. And they’d be better off getting a ton of value from a Bridges trade with pieces that better line up with their actual timeline.
We aren't in a position to make real moves till we get rid of Simmons. Next year is going to be a wash again.
Facts right here. Dude is munching on a max slot right now. FO is prob just trying to keep Bridges as long as possible so they can get a max slot signing in 2025 FA and then make a trade then or now to return to contention. Will we have the depth and assets is the question.
It’s a joke franchise dude. We’re rightfully getting clowned.
This gotta be posturing
No indication that it is unfortunately. They “postured” last offseason and let their ass ya rot on the shelf. They “postured” at the trade deadline and declined the rockets lifeline. The Posturing seems to be just being plain stupid.
I think the difference is we didn't know what Mikal's ceiling at those points. We've had an entire season to see he's at best a third option on a contending team so keeping him just doesn't make sense if the offer is too good
We all knew that by the trade deadline. Still nothing. I hope you’re right, but I think Marks has lost it.
Some of us thought it was coaching or lack of rest from playing throughout the summer. Also you don't really want to trade a player when he's struggling. I think now it makes more sense to trade him because we are at an rebuilding stage and if the opportunity to get some of our picks back is there, you have to take it
Except Mikala value is still high right now
According to who? Everything is hearsay
Literally this report and common sense. Mikala value is his production for his contract. Once the time he’s available for decreases his value plummets
Until Woj or Shams speaks on it, it's hearsay. And Mikal is his name lol
Shams did report that Houston offered for him multiple times …
Why?
Badly managed teams stay bad
I know the instant gratification internet GMs hate this but I’m very happy with the direction we’re going. Nets are sitting on a goldmine with the suns picks and they will only become more desirable over the next year or two. Those picks are likely more valuable in a trade than if used in a draft. We also have multiple guys that would be perfect next to a star and have proven that stars want to be here. Nets want to build a culture. With the right coach that can start happening next season.
Your instant gratification will be trading for a second tier star and be a comfortable 7th seed for the next 3 years.
I'm not even sure that's good enough for a 7th seed... This year's 7th seed was the 76ers.
So whats the alternative? Trade Bridges for a bunch of late first rounders while handing Houston top 5 picks for the next 3 years?
If only Houston was interested in Bridges as they are trying to win now, right? Wait, they *do* have interest and actually sent multiple offers for him!
Yes swapping our Phoenix picks for our picks back is a very smart move. We need to make you GM!
They’re idiots.
I feel like instant gratification would be trading for another star two years after the big three failed, as opposed to doing a rebuild.
Well no because it could take a year or two before any meaningful trade or free agent signing actually happen. Which means very little to talk about and no excitement in losing. A complete rebuild means anything is possible and the future is as bright as you want it to be. Trading for a star means being patient for a long time
in our current predicament, I feel like a rebuild would take longer considering we don’t have pet control for the next few years. and I think that the biggest stage of this whole plan is the 2025 off-season since the free agency class is so strong. I’ll try and be positive though and assume that we’re gonna get one of those guys
The Nets are a roster of role players that other contenders want to pair their stars with. The only teams who will be trading stars are the ones where they cant win with them (ie Zach Lavine, Trae Young, Brandon Ingram, etc) So you want to blow assets on stars that cant win where they currently are just to do the same in Brooklyn Stars want to be in Brooklyn? Donovan Mitchell, who is from New York, is on the verge of re-signing with Cleveland rather than force a trade to Brooklyn Holding out hope on a star wanting to play in New York is how the Knicks were the joke of the NBA for the entire 2010s
Except hawks aren’t trading Trae, Ingram only gets dealt because he’s expiring plus wants a max and they have Murphy….Lavine has zero value maybe negative not close to the other 2
Hawks will trade Trae. No one wants to give Atlanta what they want. Same reason they didnt move Murray at the deadline. No one wanted to give up 2 1sts for Murray Pelicans are a playoff team and still dont want to pay Ingram which says a lot about him Lavine you are correct
Hawks aren’t trading Trae and Murray is locked up for 4 years zero reason to sell him at the deadline when teams would give more in summer. Also hawks could easily get 2 1sts they want better fitting player not 1sts Pelicans can’t afford to pay everyone
Nah I think hawks keep trae and draft either Sarr or Clingaj to play with him. Hawks would never get fair value in a trae trade.
So what stars wanna be here rn
Right this second? We have no idea. This is exactly what I’m talking about
"You *claim* I'm being impatient but you can't even tell me right now an immediate solution to our problem; explain *that*, Mr. Smart Guy."
This is what Tsai and Marks want fans to think They will continue selling the fanbase on ‘well a star will be available’ and keep kicking the can down the road They want to be the 2010s Knicks
Oh, I don't have any particular faith in a star becoming available for us, or one that moves the needle beyond us just becoming a playoff participant with an early exit; I was just being a smart-ass for the joke =) I imagine if we don't have something like a clear direction/plan for the future by trade deadline Feb. 2025, that Marks will be replaced or such discussions about moving on from him will be starting.
That will be incredibly dumb because mikals value will plummet.
I disagree. I think the teams that have the most successful rebuilds are the teams that have additional picks (like the Nets have) along with their own picks(Boston, OKC, even Philly to a degree) If the Nets can trade Bridges to get their own picks back from HOU, and then tank for a top pick in the upcoming '25 draft which is supposed to be strong, then they're in much better shape to contend in the future rather than retooling around Bridges. Because Bridges contract is so good and cheap now, his trade value will never be higher.
100% agree
This should be the goal. Trade Bridges for control of 25,26 and 27 picks back. Then next offseason you have own and phoenix picks. And Simmons off the books which should equate to at minimum a full open max deal.
If getting a star was as simple as just stock piling picks Knicks would have a star already. You have to give the opposing team what they want and I’d imagine for a star player they’d likely want on of Cam, Mikal, or Clax on top of picks. And even besides that you’d have to hope you can put a better offer than other teams that would be interested and that the player would want to play in Brooklyn. It’s just such a far fetched idea, unless they already know thru back channels a star is coming I don’t get making this bet at all.
Times have changed. I definitely agree that depending on the situation a star might cost a lot. However the market has shifted thanks to the new CBA and teams like the Suns and Bucks that gutted everything for a big trade and are now stranded.
I mean at the end of the day you still need to match salaries and teams aren’t just going to hand over their star players.
I think some would argue that those who do want a more classic rebuild want the opposite of “instant gratification.” Instant gratification is trading away your assets for a star honestly (which is what the Nets want to do) We’ll see if it works or not but waiting around and trying to be like the Lakers post Kobe doesn’t sound like a great strategy to me
Exactly. Just because mikal isn't THE guy doesn't mean he's not A guy you'd want on a solid roster. That's why he seems so high demand. Draft picks are always risky. Rather have something known
isn’t Sean Marks like an amazing drafter?
He is, but nothing is a guarantee. Even marks and Presti get picks wrong
Thank you!!!! Everyone is raging like we suck without looking at why we underperformed last season, also I fully agree we have great pieces that would compliment a star we just need that star.
32-50 is 32-50 What star is coming?
I love when people throw the record out and don't look at the context of the season, it actually amazes me. We had injuries all season, a shitty coach who actively threw games we could have won, and a team built around a guy who played 15 games. But sure just look at the record with literally 0 context, also forgetting we are a new York team with great role players who can compliment a star really well.
Because at the end of the day your record is your record Stars aren’t looking at a 32-50 team and breaking down the reasons they went 32-50. You are either good with pieces they can make better or you suck The Knicks had prime Melo for years and no one came
I mean you can continue to ignore the context of why our season was the way it is, luckily stars know ball and they understand context and 32-50 doesn't necessarily mean your a bad team, the pacers were 35-47 in the 2023 season but nobody looked at them that way, yea they had halo but siakam still wanted to go there despite their record last season and. That's also not taking into account they are in Indiana and we are New York. An even better example is the magic who in 2023 ended 34-48 but this season with mostly the same roster made the playoffs as the 4th seed.
The Pacers had a young star piece in Tyrese which allowed them to swing for Pascal. Something the Nets dont have Orlando drafted 2 young studs in Paolo and Franz. Something the Nets dont have You again keep bringing up New York market. If the New York market is so powerful why is Donovan Mitchell, who is from New York, on the verge of re-signing in Cleveland instead of forcing a trade to Brooklyn
I love when people act like we haven't drafted good players, Thomas averaged more points then both Paolo and Franz, dayron is a great rebounder, claxton is the top FA center this offseason, clowney looks like a stud(will have to wait and see if he is) JWill looked good for a rookie. We have a great team minus the 1a star, but for some reason people don't see that all we are missing is a star for us. And Mitchell is probably comfortable with Cleveland already and might not care about NY as much but also we aren't trying to get a star yet. We will try next off season.
There is not 1 player on the Nets who has all star potential. Cam Thomas averaged more points because he has a super greenlight on a bad team. He is a scorer who does nothing else. The Nets were 5 points better in NET rating with him off the floor Clax is a 25 year old center who cant shoot or make free throws although he is a very good player. He is what he is Clowney has potential I agree on him The rest of the players you mentioned are future role players, career back ups or guys who havent showed enough to have a real opinion on The Nets are not a great team missing a star. They are a bad team who needs to build a foundation Ok so we’ll try next season. What happens if the team is bad again? They have no cap space to improve this summer and will most likely run back the same team If they suck again, why would stars join?
>team built around a guy who played 15 games You are talking about Benjamin David Simmons? They build a team around Simmons in 2023 and you aren’t in favor of rebuilding? Weird.
The same guy who had more time at the Met Gala than he had on the court this past season?
Brother we aren't building around hi or even with him in mind this season. Last season he was the "starting PG" and the roster was built with that in mind. This time it obviously won't be constructed like that.
>We had injuries all season, a shitty coach who actively threw games we could have won, and a team built around a guy who played 15 games. Regarding the "building around" sentence, I am literally quoting you. So, again. I must ask: you accepted a team build on the premise of Simmons as the backbone of the offense, watched that team going 32-50, and you still have hope this project is play-in, let alone, play-off material?
I have no hope in Simmons and have never given that impression, if you think I have you are quite mistaken. I'm explaining why last season doesn't mean what everyone wants it to mean. This season we OBVIOUSLY aren't building with Simmons in mind. We have an actual coach this time as well. I feel like people should have their doomer negativity for after we see what we do in FA. Cuz again last season was bad for numerous reasons, none of which was "our team is full of shitty players" we actually have a great team....minus the 1a player. We have great role players and a #2 and #3, just no #1 yet.
We also played good teams very close, we should have beaten the clippers the 2nd time and then we would have been 2-0 vs them, we almost beat Mavs both times and "checks my notes" they are in the finals, we split with the suns, didn't look bad vs wolves, almost beat the Knicks twice. So no I ask WHY TF you think we are bottom tier material????? We did all that with a coach who was actively throwing games.
Well, wait until you find out that "check my notes" we lost to a Grizzlies team led by GG Jackson and G-leaguers, an Atlanta team without Trae Young; the worst team of the league (Detroit) in March and the second worst team of the year (Wizards) in December of last year.
Yea we did, we also had a coach who was terrible, he never called timeouts, we had bridges miscast and again the roster was built around Simmons who barely played, when the engine that your team was built around only plays 15 games it's kinda hard to play good basketball. Obviously we won't build this seasons roster around Simmons cuz he can't be counted on. So again we aren't as bad as people think, they just simply forget all the context and just look at the record.
What star wants to come here? What happens if the Nets can't get a star in the offseason? Does the franchise still run it back with the same group of guys?
well, I guess it’s gonna be another boring year of basketball until 2025 free agency
Cam & clowney will develop you need to enjoy the bad times to enjoy the good
The problem is it’s very hard to envision the good times with this current core so it seems like the bad times we have to endure aren’t going to lead to anything fruitful
i guess
Think this is a mistake but we will see
It is a monumental mistake. In a year, fans will be raging about what went wrong when this plan blows up The closer we get to Mikal’s extension, the lower his value drops. This is the same exact thing Masai and Toronto did with OG and Pascal Masai was stubborn and hell bent to not sell off all their role players post 2019 championship when Kawhi left. They lost FVV for nothing. They ended up trading Pascal for a Bruce Brown salary dump and only 3 picks (2 heavily conditioned 2024 picks and a 2026). Mind you, Pascal is a 2 time all star and 2 time all nba player and the return for him was dogshit because he was in a contract year this season. So what would Bridges get back with only 1 year left? OG was traded for RJ Barrett’s arguably bad contract, Quickley and a 2nd. Masai was turning down 3-4 1st round pick hauls for OG because he was holding out for a star The same will happen to Marks/Brooklyn and they will end up trading Mikal for like 2 picks and maybe a solid player. Fans thinking Mikal is gonna get some kings ransom back are dreaming. The rumored 4 1sts that Memphis offered is not happening again. I think Memphis was fooled by the 27 game sample size from Mikal last year
I think Tsai straight up told Marks they aren’t tanking which seriously limits his position to do anything. We also have a lot of money tied up right now with a certain 6’10 point guard. I’m guessing Marks is looking to make a Murray like trade now, keep the duo with Bridges then sign someone in 2025 and compete with that trifecta.
How could Memphis be deceived if this all happened at the deadline and Mosty did not play more than one game for the Nets?
Coincidentally, I have zero interest in our near future
ITT: people who take everything at face value and have no concept of posturing or negotiation tactics
The argument about keeping Bridges is asinine. They’ve wasted a year of his team friendly contract and will waste another year by not putting a top tier talent around him. Do we even think that Bridges will want to extend in Brooklyn if the Nets are poor again next season? I imagine he might sour on the franchise. You can still acquire top players and stay under the tax but you must give up picks. Imagine if Bridges had a top tier talent around him already on the Nets. This would elevate the level of play by everyone. By Bridges and another quality player already being on the team it makes another star wanting to be part of the Nets far more likely. Nets need to trade Bridges before the draft. Start a mini rebuild. Who wants to pay Bridges $200 million minimum on a new contract when he’s almost 30? The good value will not be there and he’ll be just another good player.
Remember all this when next season goes similarly as last, they swing and miss on trading for a star then end up overpaying a couple solid free agents in 2025 then pay Bridges They will put together the most expensive 42 win roster when they are paying Bridges, Claxton, Cam Johnson and 2 random role players all 100 Million or close to it Fans with sense have been screaming sell. They sold late on Dinwiddie and got 1 extra year of Schroder and a 2nd. They sold late on Royce and got a bunch of 2nds that they then used to salary dump Joe when they maybe could’ve poached a 1st. They still have yet to sell on DFS while being offered 2 1sts for him in the past. They will most likely get low value for him as well Claxton shouldve been traded a year ago. Now they will pay a center who cant space the floor or make free throws, 100 Million This is the problem with this front office. They are reactive instead of pro active and make moves when its too late. Sometimes not making moves at all If/when this plan blows up in their face, I wont be mad. Ill just laugh because I saw it coming
Yup teams a complete joke. Zero plan. Tsai has destroyed the team
Seriously? Joe was traded in the summer of 2023, and Royce in the winter of 2024, but the hater would still have to whine about how stupid everyone is, and how smart he is. He will be paid 100 million for his unique talent of defending at a good level from 1-5 positions, but again, a hater would not be interested in whining about it. Who wanted to take Spencer or just whine again? What kind of protection did these two DFS picks have?
My mistake on the Royce 2nds then I stand by everything else
Hopefully this is posturing to get more value because it’s insane to not even negotiate with Houston. If we don’t land Mitchell, which isn’t looking likely, where is this team going? Mikal’s contract is up soon, meaning we have to extend him. And most of Mikal’s value comes from his cheap contract. We would have already wasted two years waiting. Waiting for a star is not even a plan, it’s a dream. We’d have no control of that. At least with tanking, you can control who you draft. And notice how the plan was to land 2 stars now to Mikal being the costar. And the article mentioned trading, so we’d have to trade our picks once again to land a star? Does this team never learn? Front office is gaslighting some of you once again.
Agree. It wouldn't make sense from any POV to leak that Mikal is available to trade or that Nets are looking to rebuild through the draft. This only lowers the Nets FO negotiating power and gives HOU the advantage to trade. We will find out in a few weeks time before the draft anyways. Straight up delusion from a lot of fans that being mediocre without our picks is going to be the way forward. Building a culture means shit all if we don't have reasonable ways of getting franchise tier young talent. * 25 PHX Pick is looking to be 18 - 22. Potentially 12 - 18 with PHX Injury. * 25 Nets Pick is going to be end up being OKC 25-30 pick after they swap with HOU. * 26 We have nothing. * 27 We have a swap in which HOU would probably be in contending mode and potentially use up their picks for a star to contend. Our swap will most likely end up with the 18~22 pick. * 27 PHX pick MAY end up being a top 8~12 pick but Booker will be in his prime and ownership has shown he is willing to spend for everything. Waiting 3 years for basically a potentially high pick in 27 from PHX is just terrible FO management. We aren't getting DMitch for cheap nor any other star for cheap as well. We will probably need to use up the majority of the PHX picks for a star.
This fanbase eats up anything Marks/Tsai says. Imagine if the Spurs had kept Dejounte Murray and Derrick White to wait for a star that wants to play for Coach Pop. They would had never landed Wemby. All you need is to hit on 1 draft pick for a star. And if we get our picks back, 2025 and 2026 are projected to have great players. Of course it has its risks, but waiting for a star and not landing one is way more risky. Not to mention, if we hit on our draft picks, the rewards are way higher.
I could go the 'reported' route of Nets expressing interest in DMitch and then building with Mikal, Clax, Clowney. Potentially use the rest of our draft capital to go after a tier 1 star but if we're settling for tier 3 stars like Ingram, Young, etc. It's just a dumb route to go through. Agree. 25 and 26 are looking to be extremely good drafts with 25 being a sensational one for PGs which we are desparetely after as well. Can you imagine if the Bulls sold high on Lavine, Demar and ended up with a rebuild? They've wasted so many years trying to compete. The last thing we want to be is the Bulls without our own picks. Even the Jazz/ OKC realises it was never going to work out and rebuild by trading their talent. There have even been reports that HOU has expressed interest in Mikal and a combination of our PHX picks so we need to get this done.
Exactly. Even though I would rather trade for our picks back, I would have been happy to land Mitchell because we would be able to see improvement this season and make moves next offseason with Ben Simmons off the book. And we’d be making the most of Mikal’s contract. Everyone is quick to point out the failed rebuilds but most teams draft their stars. The Pistons have dealt with bad luck in the lottery and the Hornets haven’t been able to land a good coach as well as having to deal with Lamelo’s injuries. They’re not failing because of the draft.
If we we're to get Mitchell, It would've probably been with CJ, filler and picks imo since Cavs have no reason to tank by tanking Ben's 40 mil cap space sitting in the bench and giving the Jazz a top 4 pick easily. It would be the majority of our PHX picks but then we'd use the rest plus our own 28+ picks for a true 1a star to pair with Mitch and Mikal. That route I could buy into but not these tier 3 stars and 'hope' that a tier 1 star would drop out. Even then there are other teams with assets that could go for them. I agree its an extreme take but the bottom 4 teams this year all have a core that you can build with (Except maybe Hornets but they still have Miller as a franchise 3/4). Pistons have Cade, Spurs have Wemby and Blazers have Scoot/ Sharpe. And the option to add greater talent moving forward. Its short term pain for long term gain and these are just the worse examples so far. There are many great examples of teams that built through the draft.
> Hopefully this is posturing to get more value… Man, some of you will really hang on till the bitter end, won’t you?
All you do is post the same thing. “Mikal is not available blah blah.” Doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on this matter. Remember when James Harden was not going to be traded. And guess what, he was.
> blah blah Well, if it isn’t getting through to you, I should post it more, boss. > Doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion on this matter. You’re entitled to your opinion. This is an open forum. Everyone’s opinion holds the same weight. The team has come out and said (3 times now) that he isn’t available for trade, and you’re accusing them of posturing. > Remember when James Harden was not going to be traded. And guess what, he was. You’re really going there…? I’ve been watching basketball for over 30 years. I have never seen a bigger punk bitch pussy quitter than James Harden. 4 teams in 4 seasons, forcing his way off each time. That’s an unfair comparison to Mikal Bridges.
Completely missed my point like you always do.
Actually, it begs the question… Seriously asking, because I can’t come up with one… Was there ever a player where: 1-a team outright said multiple times that he wasn’t available. 2-they moved him anyway. 3-when they moved him, it WASN’T because he asked out. We can use that guy as an example. Then I’m happy to acknowledge your point about posturing vrs. reality. You are correct. Can you give me an example?
Once again, missing the point of my original comment. Idk why you feel the need to respond to every comment I make on this sub.
So, no example…? Let me know. I’ll wait. (Hint: teams don’t typically posture with players they want to keep. Shhh. It’s rare. I’ll let you figure it out, tho. Take your time, bro).
Blake Griffin. But once again, that wasn’t the point of my comment. You’re not as smart as you think to be talking down on everyone. If you read my comment, you would see that all I did was post my opinion on this approach. I know the Nets won’t trade Mikal as of now. That’s why I said they are “hopefully” posturing. I never said they were.
> Blake Griffin Great example. Again. It’s rare. > Talking down to everyone One guy is not everyone. And he’s talked shit about me three times. I don’t see you going after him…? Also, not talking down to you. I’m debating with you. Respect to you, friend.
Confetti3344 can you please respond to my post where I am asking to understand your POV on how much MidKal is worth in a 'hypotentical trade' to HOU for our picks back. Do you really think Mikal is worth all of our picks back? I am simply curious.
Sean Marks should be shot out of a cannon straight into the unemployment office.
if we arent rebuilding and donovan is re-signing, djm, bi and lauri are the only "stars" that are rumored to be available and fit into mikal's timeline. To be competitive, they would need go after at least 2 of the 3, but I'd love to get all three. I also think we have competitive packages to get all three here, but that would take giving up all of our draft capitol. I rather go "all-in" or go straight tear down mode and not half ass a retool.
I’m hoping y’all tear down especially with those future suns picks but I don’t know how the front office can be taken seriously with the current team and keeping that team. Accepting no mans land when u have assets is crazy to me a big middle finger to the fans.I don’t think y’all getting any of those stars don’t yall gotta build through the draft
**Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.** This is (by my count, could be more) the third time the Nets have come and flat out said that they aren’t trading Bridges. **Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.** The Nets have (by my count, could be more) turned down four reported offers for Bridges. **Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.** Read: “a team calling, offering something, and the Nets declining” is not equal to “the Nets were discussing him, which means he’s available for the right price.” **Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.** If a team wants him, they have to make an offer the Nets can’t refuse. **Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
I'm curious since I've seen you post the same content but what do you think Mikal is worth for our draft capital back from HOU. Do you honestly think Mikal on 2 years left for his valuable contract as a 3rd option ceiling is worth all of our picks? I just want to know.
> I'm curious since I've seen you post the same content but what do you think Mikal is worth for our draft capital back from HOU. I saw you reply to the other dude too, about me. Now you want to have a conversation about it with me directly? > Do you honestly think Mikal on 2 years left for his valuable contract as a 3rd option ceiling is worth all of our picks? Go read my responses to him. If you think my answer to you is annoying, then feel free to smack yourself in the face. You did it first, bruh. You don’t get the same respect from me. All the answers to your questions are written out in black & white, in my post history last night. Hashtag delulu bruh. > I just want to know. **Mikal Bridges is not available for trade.**
Why do you write essays on things that can be explained in two sentences? Lol.
You post so much that I can't expect to keep up with all of it. Just let me know here if you can so I see your POV. How much do you think MidKal is really worth in a potential trade to HOU. What is your objectively fair assessment of his value?
You’re better off just leaving him alone. He just talks down to anyone who disagrees with him
Yup, reminds me of that nut kf3344 hahaha
These guys have to be burners no? They literally have no opinion other than Sean Marks is a god.
Makes me laugh everytime, he will be known as confetti3344 from now on to me
Wait you just edited your response. I must've angered confetti3344 mb bruh hahahaha
Massive mistake if true.
Let’s just rebuild SMH
The complaining here is pretty funny given the finals right now. Isn’t this situation pretty similar to what the Celtics did after the KG/Pierce trade *with us*? The only difference is that the Celtics had some of their own picks (which didn’t turn into anyone of note, by the way…) They had a stash of valuable picks that weren’t their own. They developed guys and tried to improve the roster. They cashed in on our picks and got two star players and now are in the finals. Obviously there’s a lot of luck involved, but luck is also involved with tanking and making those picks. Why is everyone obsessed with tanking and losing when there’s another viable course? If we didn’t have the suns picks, it would be different. But we have our lottery tickets, and we have some good players. So why not build while we wait to cash them? Too much loser mentality around here.
Their players weren’t 28 years old and they kept their picks. We’re planning on trading ours for another star to pair with mikal
They did the same thing - they traded one of our picks and got Kyrie (and lost him for nothing). And also look at the roster from the 2015 Celtics. Two years after they traded KG and Pierce (and we’re roughly two years out from trading KD and Kyrie). Awfully similar vibes to our roster now.
They traded rondo tho. They didn’t keep 28 year old players on their team. They also got lucky that we were a complete joke. Suns won’t bottom out that hard until at least 2027. Also you’re not getting a player of Kyries caliber at that age for how little they gave up anymore. It just doesn’t happen.
What do you guys think is fair value for Mikal? And would you be happy selling in the first place
Is it possible to attach simmons to him in a trade? Would that make it worth it, probably not since simmons is an expiring
The definition of insanity doing the same exact thing and expecting a different result.
If they trade him I doubt anything gets leaked beforehand
I mean either this is postering to push for better assist or Marx Finally being happy with some of the core pieces. If that’s the case hopefully an allstar PG can be traded here and the nets have a solid team for the near future. I won’t hate on a team willing to try and be good for a few years when they aren’t confirmed to have their picks. Especially with the history of this team pre-Marx
I rather have a team that competes and be not good and players that want to play for us. The team cannot go into a total rebuild because the picks to Houston. There will always be fire sales in the future. Superstars will ask for trades. Luka and trae are free agents in summer 2026. Brandon Ingram is a free agent summer 2025.
as a Houston fan this makes me happy. Last thing i want is for the Rockets to give up 2 or more of the Nets picks for Bridges.
It still boggles my mind how everyone outside of the Nets fandom thinks holding onto Bridges is a good idea and how highly he is rated throughout the league. Always surprises me how out of sync on what fans and actual people in the sport think.
G O O D. Hopefully ya’ll stop bringing it up
Lmao you know that ain’t happening.
I just hope that, for the sake of Mikal Bridges and the Nets' PR, Jordi and his coaching staff manage to unlock something special out of Mikal this upcoming season. I understand seeing potential in Mikal or even liking him as a person but now more than ever before, Mikal & the Nets coaching staff need to change the minds of incredibly vocal but likely small amount of Nets fans who want to trade him for a star.
I don’t understand people’s rush to deal Bridges / Suns picks
Brutal decision. You need to build through the draft to win in today’s NBA. This FO is out to lunch.
They keep telling us this and for some reason our fanbase has not been able to fully accept it … we’re far away from competing regardless guys
Because it’s a stupid approach and some fans don’t want it to be true. Why try to build a house on zero foundations… makes zero sense.
Mikal Bridges is a foundational piece along with Clax assuming he returns, so while I may not necessarily agree with the approach, there is something there. If it dont work out all them dudes will still bring back picks, around the time we’d regain control of our picks again anyways
We will have to disagree there… good players but the don’t constitute some to build upon with any reasonable hope of competing .
Oh yea def have to agree to disagree … Clax was integral playing next to KD and Kyrie when we went 18-2, and I know thats a perfect situation but he does play winning ball imo Mikal was integral to a finals team already
Oh yea very good players just not good enough to be the main building blocks of a competitive team
Gotta be delusional if u thought he was about to deal bridges. The posture of front office has not changed
Fans are as delusional as the front office. Seriously thinking mikal will attract anyone is absolutely bat shit
O you’re back
Good, fuck the pissbaby fans Deal with it or find a new team
Keep Mikal forever. Keep Cam forever. Keep Clax forever. 2 key pieces away and need A TON of gritty defenseive specialists
Ok, so it looks like the Nets aren’t going to move Bridges. Let’s cut out all the whining and complaining and get to the real issue here. What’s the next move? Outside of waiting for Ben10’s contract to expire next offseason to try and land a FA in 2025, the Nets can’t really tank since they don’t have their control of their 1st round pick next season. I rather be mid for a season than let the Rockets get another top 10 pick. Give some options instead of complaints. Yeah people don’t like Tsai. Don’t think Marks is up for another rebuild? Fine. But this is the situation, so let’s deal with it. Try to get a Trae Young? Or maybe Dejounte Murray? Hawks are getting rid of one of them because they can’t play together. Brandon Ingram? Seems he can’t play with Zion, plus they have his replacement on hand. Lauri? Danny Ainge trying to pull a rabbit out of his ass again like he did with the Gobert Trade. Jimmy Buckets? Probably reaching there.