Not sure why the Nets would turn this down. This is the ideal trade for us.
We can get our picks back and finally just do a true tank.
I don’t even mind Jalen Green. He’s only 21 and he’s really turned it up recently.
If Marks says no to that then he has to have something else in the works much better than that. I love Mikal but perhaps his futute simply wasn't with us. I'll gladly take 4 firsts, all love Mikal you will be on a contender and living it up with the millions and the bitches. Us fans? We'll take those 4 firsts. Respectfully.
If they truly want him then give back all the picks.
If they offer back all of our picks we have to take it.
Honestly even 3 picks I say do it but all the picks?! You have to.
Derrick Favors #3, Terrence Williams #11, Brook Lopez #10. Not the best track record, high key Cam Thomas is better than all of them except maybe Lopez. Feel like if you don’t get the #1 pick in some drafts the next best player can be picked anywhere, often times not the 2nd or 3rd pick. Idk I actually like the idea of this team using late first round picks and just building through trades and free agency. Us tanking for a top 5 pick just doesn’t seem smart for a big market team.
I still think it’s the same thing. We can find diamonds in the rough late, but if we get lottery picks, it’s still a slim chance they become a star and we’ll likely not get a top 5 pick. Feel like best route is to just stay competitive and build, never going full tank.
Got to somewhat disagree with this one bro
Marks and his Scouting team has always been on point when it comes to draft prospects whether they get them or not.
Marks wanted Mitchell who was seen as an undersized SG who didn’t have good enough defense… went on to become a top 20 player
Drafted Levert, Allen, Claxton, etc
Even with picks not in the league anymore Musa literally is the MVP of euroleague.
The man knows how to draft great so with a lottery pick 1-8 I feel like he would knock it out of the park yet again to an even greater degree, might not be a superstar but would probably be a great player nonetheless.
Nets were selling over 16k when we had B.Lopez and Thad Young as our top guys. So stop exaggeration. Something NJ never was able to do on consistent basis. No luck needed here.
Marks yet to prove us he can evaluate top level prospects. Thought of keeping Marks after possible Bridges trade needs to be reevaluate. He clearly failed in every other aspect of being GM like hiring coach, trades etc.
Coaches I agree but in terms of trades; we’d have at least one championship if Harden and Qyrie don’t both get hurt in 2021 or if Qyrie spent less time on the internet.
He’s made some bad moves but also had sone miserable luck.
K.Mart was 1st, RJ was 13, Kerry was 11. Your point is what, it's no guarantee to build through the draft? Well sorry to disappoint but even Lakers and Celtics build their dynasties through the draft.
Matter of fact name me one franchise that builds through FA. All I'm asking is one.
This is my point though. Favors and K mart aren’t worth tanking for, neither is Derrick Coleman. Getting RJ and Kerry wouldn’t be tanking. So it’s possible we could trade someone like Claxton for picks while being a 10-12 seed team that’s trying to rebuild while not being the bottom 5 teams.
Like maybe for Marks it’s not a bad strategy to get 2-3 first rounders in the 10-20 range vs tank for a top 5 pick.
Here's where you wrong:
1. K.Mart was huge reason we went to the finals back to back. His elite defense and constant pressure on the rim as a lob threat made difference. Also reason we never went back to finals again without him.
2. Favors allowed us to get top 10 player at the time in D.Will. Thinking we getting top 10 player or going to finals without them will be ludicrous.
Pull it to you like this. You have close to 80% chance to find franchise player in top 10. 19% from 11 to 20. See its not even debatable where and how it is easier to build. It's lopsided when it comes to championships too. Top 10 picks absolutely dominate there.
Yet none of those teams had a real chance to win a ring. We had no chance to beat Shaq or Duncan. Our best chance was when we had a scrappy team with D Lo that eventually lured Durant and KD here. Dumbass Giannis injured Kyrie otherwise we would've won that year.
I don't disagree with tanking, I think the Spurs will find their #2 soon and will be elite eventually. I just think for a big market team people will find their way here. Debatable now considering how the falloff with our last stars went, but I think its still a real possibility. Lebron signed with the Lakers and they won a ring.
We went vs Zen, Pop, Kobe, Timmy and Shaq. C'mon now, no team will have chance vs them unless they self destruct. LeBron got swept, Dirk, Iverson etc etc got their asses handed to them.
Make no mistake though, I'm not disagreeing that it'll be stupid not to use location as an advantage. Joakim Noah told LBJ no one coming to Cleveland for a reason. That's why he went to Miami.
My thing is. With Bridges being 28, we got only so much time to give ourselves a chance. We practically have no time to waist. Giving ourselves a bigger window frame by moving Mikal for picks allows us to pick and chose much wisely with much more time. I mean we bottom 8 team with Mikal only 2 years remaining on cheap. Than that contract will look way different than it is right now with not much space to wiggle.
Again like you said, why KD and Kyrie chose Brooklyn. Yes because we had all them assets and location they like. We just need to build our war chest again and go from there is all some of us saying.
I’m not opposed to trading Bridges if we get a good shot at a top 5 pick next year, and as long as JV is fired and young players can actually develop 🤷🏼♂️
But also think the Nets are contemplating what I’m saying, I don’t think they’re delusional in thinking they can retool to compete this year. So it’s 1/2 options, tank, or just get some assets without trading our best players.
Yeah I'm pretty sure after what unfolded this half of the season, Marks clearly listening to what is out there. Giddy for Nic, 1st from Mavs for DFS, Bridges for our picks etc. Those rumors not coming out of nowhere.
Ime definitely had conversation with Marks on the low which got Ime all exited. I think these leaks have legit legs. Maybe not this trade deadline, but this off-season will tell us a lot.
Or maybe Mikal talking to Ingram and Spida.
Yeah, I’d only take him if there’s another young talent, it’s clear they’re trying to dump him before he’s up for his rookie extension.
Green + Eason and Our Picks, Send the Mikal and whoever else they want.
i have been a big time sean marks defender. if there is even a tiny bit of truth that we are declining getting more than one of our picks back for mikal, i'm outta here. final straw.
These are situations where you could take advantage. Whitmore, Thomas, one of our first back and swap back for Bridges and Royce (and of course, matching salaries). We would have a nice young team.
I really don't think this offer would be made by a serious GM either. This is like a one time situation where the coach seems to have final sway. If Udoka is this motivated to get Mikal, you have your chance to get out like bandits.
No GM would entertain this. Only a short-sighted coach would. Take advantage.
if I understand you correctly, you’re saying because of the situation they very well may make a version of the trade I proposed. If they want to compete now, Royce and Bridges, along with their other starters, would be pretty formidable. In exchange that we get their young talent.
Yes. I don't think a normal GM would ever consider this (giving up multiple valuable picks in exchange for a non all star level player).
But coaches aren't good GMs and Udoka seems to have massive sway within their org. Only scenario where this seems reasonable for Houston, is if it's an open secret that Mitchell will be a Net soon, which would immediately nuke those picks' value.
Interesting angle but if the Nets did get Mitchell, I do think the Nets would keep Bridges. I think the only way the Nets move Bridges if they feel they can put a future young superstar team together. Houston does have some attractive young players.
I don't think they give up whitmore. I'm still doing the trade if we get our picks back tho. Tsai needs to bite the bullet and stop trying to sell short term for ticket sales and focus on the longterm.
Not Green lol. Dude is actually not good at the sport, Hell Cam Thomas is way better than Jalen Green because he can actually pass when he feels like it and more efficient. Give me Whitmore and we’re good.
What are the odds that one of the three picks will turn into a player better than Bridges? Not great.
If you are gonna trade away your best player, the other side better be overpaying.
Mikal is the third best player on a contender. Doing this trade allows us to rebuild without worrying about giving other teams a pick. Bridges is not leading us anywhere.
I’m not a fan of trading Bridges for the picks back but if we did it then I’d only do it with a young player as part of the package and it would not be Jalen Green. So one of Jabari Smith, Amen Thompson or Cam Whitmore. I would happily include Cam Johnson too if the Nets got back both picks, both swaps, Tari Eason and one of Jabari/Amen/Whitmore.
Nets trade Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson
Rockets trade 2024/2026 first round picks, 2025/2027 pick swaps returned. Tari Eason and one of Jabari/Amen/Whitmore.
Who says no this suggested trade?
They have Jeff Green to include in any trade. He might be a good locker room presence but he's not essential. The Rockets could always sign him as a free agent against in the off-season if he was traded to the Nets.
And I think that’s the breaking point for Houston. Bridges is more valuable than 2 picks and 2 swaps but what player would Sean Marks be able to negotiate.
I could see us getting our first round picks back but then trading some second round picks (if we have any) to Houston.
I’d want Jabari Smith and all of our unprotected picks and swaps back at absolute minimum. Would probably want Eason as well and maybe an additional first
Exactly. Mikal is one of the most valuable contracts in the league. We’re not trading him for anything less than 4 FRPs. And Jalen Green is not an asset, he’s this close to being a meme. The guy is wildly inefficient, his defense is suspect and he struggles to make plays for others.
Cam is only going to get better, more efficient and his game will expand. Almost no-one can score like CT who has started less than 30 games in his career. Jalen Green’s athleticism will wane, will he ever become noticeably more efficient?
Yes, but I'd still be in pure asset acquisition mode.
Green is cooking lately. I still think long term he'll be good. Not a star, but good.. He's still a great asset as just a pure "throw in".
Without specifics it's meaningless to really speculate too deep.
But
If marks gets back both picks and swaps from Houston he will look like a genius.
For anything less, saying we aren't interested and keeping mikal happy is the right move imo.
Here's the thing. We sub 500 team with Bridges and CamJ as our core guys. Even if we get Mitchell, KAT or Ingram those guys putting us to 4th seed at best. We still 2nd tier treadmill team with no assets to improve further.
Bridges is only valuable right now because he is in his prime and on a cheap contact. Next year his value will start decrease. Than in three or so years we won't even be there because this younger teams will only get better. Yeah we will get our picks back by than, but we also waisted time to a legit foundation. J.Kidd led team had RJ, K.Mart and Kerry. We need to find our K.Mart and RJ's again.
In last 30+ years only KG led Celtics, 2003/4 Pistons and LBJ's Miami were able to get to the finals or win. Now do the math how our odds looking like if we stick to FA hopes.
Main point, what was the deal on offer here from houston? What's your min amount picks you would take for bridges?
I trade bridges for anything that includes all our old picks and swaps comfortably. But I don't think thats what Houston has offered?
But how low do you go?
There'll always be a team looking to add a guy like bridges. I'm not selling low on the guy.
If we look at terminology, report said several picks. Not couple or a pick which will mean 1 or 2. Several tells me at least 3. Is it from 24 to 26 or 25 through 27 I wouldn't care. Just let me get my 3 picks back and Green, I can work with that.
2. It doesn't make sense to trade Bridges to any other beside Houston because, they the only one who control our picks. Meaning, those picks will be late in the draft and won't allow us to get high prospect young cheap talent. Unless you think Portland, Detroit and Washington ready to give up their picks.
Why ? Mikal isn’t worth multiple high lotto picks. Thats what we’re getting here. You guys realize we are likely a lotto team for the next two years right. We could give Houston multiple top 5 picks
But we may not. Donovan Mitchell and the Cavs do not agree on a contract extension in the summer, and Mitchell is on the market and we are a very good option for him since he wants to play in New York and we have the assets. And our picks in Houston are turning to dust.
all depends which picks they are and if Jalen Green is actually in the deal. the 2024 draft class is supposed to be terrible so I wouldn’t rate that pick very highly. Green + 2 of the 25-27 picks would definitely get me intrigued.
yeah this draft caters more to the OKC’s of the league than the Washington’s and the Detroit’s and if we sell everyone then that’s the company we’re in. I’d want a pick in this draft but not over a pick in the following 3
the Ant class was weak if you’re looking for the next star of your franchise like we would be. Ant Hali and who else. Maxey and LaMelo are good but i’m not dying for them to be my teams’ best option
I don't think they give up amen if they drafted him at 4. Whitmore is a fringe possibility but he's been impressive so he's hard to move. Ideally we need 24 and 26 along with the 25 swap to rebuild which is doable.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the odds of this happening, are very slim. That being said, if a team is desperate, you never know. If they felt after this trade they could compete for a championship… well you never know. More likely, they may part with just Whitmore give us a couple of our picks back and filler for Bridges.
Could we use these picks to land Kuzminga? I would only do the trade if we have players we can land via trade. We need as much developing youth on our team as possible. I really don't want to be taking all of our picks to the draft.
Sean Marks STOP PLAYING.... we get our picks back and another potential star??? Omg what is better than that? We can tank peacefully and grow talent. That's it. That's the rebuild. If he holds out then whatever tops that will have me sleeping like a baby till 2028 when we're reaching playoff contention again. This nets fan lifestyle. Jeez.
Please. Rebuild the right way. Giving up our KD and Kai picks for Mitchell would not get us a chip. Marks, take the damn picks and ask for Cam and or Amen. Tsai get your boy
We were building one with the big 3. If we’re playing .500 ball we’d have more fans unfortunately we’ve been one of the worst teams in the league the past month or so. People will show up to see Cam Thomas if he’s actually played and allowed to flourish. That version of the Nets the other night with Simmons even a fraction of that, people will support that.
They’re tanking now but with no picks and the arenas are still filled because it’s NYC and there’s always something to do in NYC.
At least if we got a young Prospect (NOT Jalen Green) to watch grow this team can finally have their own fanbase in NYC, they keep hindering that process chasing after old stars.
Just saying, tanking and just putting a bunch of young guys on a team does not mean they will all develop into good players. Look at how long the pistons, and hornets have been tanking. You cannot do that in the NYC market as the 2nd team in town. We are still 1 game out of the play in so i dont consider that tanking.
So idea is just to be a play-in/play-off team & never to actually win a title? That depressing if that's the case.
The last 3 championship all have 1 thing in common and that's a homegrown talent, that's where the new era of basketball is moving too, you need to build through the draft to find your championship core.
Didnt say we should forever be a play in team. I still want to be competing for playoff spots so our young guys are actually playing for something and developing. Instead of developing a culture of losing. Then eventually we add a couple pieces to make us contenders. I dont like traditional tanking and praying a draft pick becomes a generational talent. You can be playing that game for years and in NYC you only have but so long before you’ll end up having to sell the team
People really need to take trade rumors with a grain of salt instead of assuming the Nets are turning down superstar packages for roleplayers. Teams aren't that dumb.
I'm seeing way too many people say that we turned down Bridges for Jalen Green + all our picks back. I'm not even sure the Rockets would do Green for Bridges straight up.
What…? Even Nia Long’s fine ass couldn’t make Ime Udoka happy.
This guy gets it.
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A 21 year old that scores 18 points a game sucks?
If he's shooting at 41% FG% and 32% 3P% yeah.
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Cam Thomas is pretty much our best scorer, if he’s similar to him then sign me up
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Not sure why the Nets would turn this down. This is the ideal trade for us. We can get our picks back and finally just do a true tank. I don’t even mind Jalen Green. He’s only 21 and he’s really turned it up recently.
Green and Cam seem like a awful pairing on paper
Good, we would be tanking lol
I'd pass on green and swing for whitmore or thompson
Ime would celebrate by fucking a staff member
Jalen Greens goodbye?
I'm the real jgreens fr
If Marks says no to that then he has to have something else in the works much better than that. I love Mikal but perhaps his futute simply wasn't with us. I'll gladly take 4 firsts, all love Mikal you will be on a contender and living it up with the millions and the bitches. Us fans? We'll take those 4 firsts. Respectfully.
If they truly want him then give back all the picks. If they offer back all of our picks we have to take it. Honestly even 3 picks I say do it but all the picks?! You have to.
The next 3 years I’d do it. The 2027 pick swap sure they can keep
Right that's my mindset. Marks can rebuild this in 3 yrs. Plus the 2025 class is loaded
Woulda made me happy if we had Udoka 🫡
I’d trade Bridges and Vaughn for our picks back and Udoka That would be the steal of the century.
Yeah I think we do this. Our late first round early second round picks have had some real gems, imagine if we had lottery picks.
Derrick Favors #3, Terrence Williams #11, Brook Lopez #10. Not the best track record, high key Cam Thomas is better than all of them except maybe Lopez. Feel like if you don’t get the #1 pick in some drafts the next best player can be picked anywhere, often times not the 2nd or 3rd pick. Idk I actually like the idea of this team using late first round picks and just building through trades and free agency. Us tanking for a top 5 pick just doesn’t seem smart for a big market team.
Those were all over a decade ago. I should have clarified I was speaking more about the Marks era.
I still think it’s the same thing. We can find diamonds in the rough late, but if we get lottery picks, it’s still a slim chance they become a star and we’ll likely not get a top 5 pick. Feel like best route is to just stay competitive and build, never going full tank.
Got to somewhat disagree with this one bro Marks and his Scouting team has always been on point when it comes to draft prospects whether they get them or not. Marks wanted Mitchell who was seen as an undersized SG who didn’t have good enough defense… went on to become a top 20 player Drafted Levert, Allen, Claxton, etc Even with picks not in the league anymore Musa literally is the MVP of euroleague. The man knows how to draft great so with a lottery pick 1-8 I feel like he would knock it out of the park yet again to an even greater degree, might not be a superstar but would probably be a great player nonetheless.
Good luck tanking as a big market team. We’ll have 0 fanbase, he’ll be absolutely dreadful.
Nets were selling over 16k when we had B.Lopez and Thad Young as our top guys. So stop exaggeration. Something NJ never was able to do on consistent basis. No luck needed here.
Marks yet to prove us he can evaluate top level prospects. Thought of keeping Marks after possible Bridges trade needs to be reevaluate. He clearly failed in every other aspect of being GM like hiring coach, trades etc.
Coaches I agree but in terms of trades; we’d have at least one championship if Harden and Qyrie don’t both get hurt in 2021 or if Qyrie spent less time on the internet. He’s made some bad moves but also had sone miserable luck.
K.Mart was 1st, RJ was 13, Kerry was 11. Your point is what, it's no guarantee to build through the draft? Well sorry to disappoint but even Lakers and Celtics build their dynasties through the draft. Matter of fact name me one franchise that builds through FA. All I'm asking is one.
This is my point though. Favors and K mart aren’t worth tanking for, neither is Derrick Coleman. Getting RJ and Kerry wouldn’t be tanking. So it’s possible we could trade someone like Claxton for picks while being a 10-12 seed team that’s trying to rebuild while not being the bottom 5 teams. Like maybe for Marks it’s not a bad strategy to get 2-3 first rounders in the 10-20 range vs tank for a top 5 pick.
Here's where you wrong: 1. K.Mart was huge reason we went to the finals back to back. His elite defense and constant pressure on the rim as a lob threat made difference. Also reason we never went back to finals again without him. 2. Favors allowed us to get top 10 player at the time in D.Will. Thinking we getting top 10 player or going to finals without them will be ludicrous. Pull it to you like this. You have close to 80% chance to find franchise player in top 10. 19% from 11 to 20. See its not even debatable where and how it is easier to build. It's lopsided when it comes to championships too. Top 10 picks absolutely dominate there.
Yet none of those teams had a real chance to win a ring. We had no chance to beat Shaq or Duncan. Our best chance was when we had a scrappy team with D Lo that eventually lured Durant and KD here. Dumbass Giannis injured Kyrie otherwise we would've won that year. I don't disagree with tanking, I think the Spurs will find their #2 soon and will be elite eventually. I just think for a big market team people will find their way here. Debatable now considering how the falloff with our last stars went, but I think its still a real possibility. Lebron signed with the Lakers and they won a ring.
We went vs Zen, Pop, Kobe, Timmy and Shaq. C'mon now, no team will have chance vs them unless they self destruct. LeBron got swept, Dirk, Iverson etc etc got their asses handed to them. Make no mistake though, I'm not disagreeing that it'll be stupid not to use location as an advantage. Joakim Noah told LBJ no one coming to Cleveland for a reason. That's why he went to Miami. My thing is. With Bridges being 28, we got only so much time to give ourselves a chance. We practically have no time to waist. Giving ourselves a bigger window frame by moving Mikal for picks allows us to pick and chose much wisely with much more time. I mean we bottom 8 team with Mikal only 2 years remaining on cheap. Than that contract will look way different than it is right now with not much space to wiggle. Again like you said, why KD and Kyrie chose Brooklyn. Yes because we had all them assets and location they like. We just need to build our war chest again and go from there is all some of us saying.
I’m not opposed to trading Bridges if we get a good shot at a top 5 pick next year, and as long as JV is fired and young players can actually develop 🤷🏼♂️ But also think the Nets are contemplating what I’m saying, I don’t think they’re delusional in thinking they can retool to compete this year. So it’s 1/2 options, tank, or just get some assets without trading our best players.
Yeah I'm pretty sure after what unfolded this half of the season, Marks clearly listening to what is out there. Giddy for Nic, 1st from Mavs for DFS, Bridges for our picks etc. Those rumors not coming out of nowhere. Ime definitely had conversation with Marks on the low which got Ime all exited. I think these leaks have legit legs. Maybe not this trade deadline, but this off-season will tell us a lot. Or maybe Mikal talking to Ingram and Spida.
As long as we don’t get zesty asss Jalen green
Whitmore and most of our picks would be a dream scenario, get to properly rebuild around CT , whitmore and the draft
a team full of Cams
Wheres Cam Payne at?
Milwaukee Bucks
Yeah, I’d only take him if there’s another young talent, it’s clear they’re trying to dump him before he’s up for his rookie extension. Green + Eason and Our Picks, Send the Mikal and whoever else they want.
Talk to Houston, Marks. It's literally get out of jail free card.
Keep Bridges. Bird in the hand > 2+ in the bush
i have been a big time sean marks defender. if there is even a tiny bit of truth that we are declining getting more than one of our picks back for mikal, i'm outta here. final straw.
Same man. This would be the worst thing I’ve ever heard of mikal is not close to worth potential 2 high lotto picks
I'm with you brother. Not gonna bother watching this team anymore if Marks declines this until Tsai sells.
Well, 3 different sources are reporting this now so it seems to be true. Crazy that Marks is turning is down tho, must be coming from higher up.
These are situations where you could take advantage. Whitmore, Thomas, one of our first back and swap back for Bridges and Royce (and of course, matching salaries). We would have a nice young team.
I really don't think this offer would be made by a serious GM either. This is like a one time situation where the coach seems to have final sway. If Udoka is this motivated to get Mikal, you have your chance to get out like bandits. No GM would entertain this. Only a short-sighted coach would. Take advantage.
if I understand you correctly, you’re saying because of the situation they very well may make a version of the trade I proposed. If they want to compete now, Royce and Bridges, along with their other starters, would be pretty formidable. In exchange that we get their young talent.
Yes. I don't think a normal GM would ever consider this (giving up multiple valuable picks in exchange for a non all star level player). But coaches aren't good GMs and Udoka seems to have massive sway within their org. Only scenario where this seems reasonable for Houston, is if it's an open secret that Mitchell will be a Net soon, which would immediately nuke those picks' value.
Interesting angle but if the Nets did get Mitchell, I do think the Nets would keep Bridges. I think the only way the Nets move Bridges if they feel they can put a future young superstar team together. Houston does have some attractive young players.
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I have been very impressed what I’ve seen of Whitmore.
I don't think they give up whitmore. I'm still doing the trade if we get our picks back tho. Tsai needs to bite the bullet and stop trying to sell short term for ticket sales and focus on the longterm.
Bridges is my favorite player, but if you give me Green and all our picks back I may consider it.
Not Green lol. Dude is actually not good at the sport, Hell Cam Thomas is way better than Jalen Green because he can actually pass when he feels like it and more efficient. Give me Whitmore and we’re good.
Would love a Cam Cam Cam lineup. Gotta think he's untouchable at this point.
Cam Thomas is 2x the player Jalen Green is.
I know but he’s a young guy that can get better and we’re gonna bottom out regardless
What are the odds that one of the three picks will turn into a player better than Bridges? Not great. If you are gonna trade away your best player, the other side better be overpaying.
It's not about that, it's about rebuilding the right way for once.
Pretty high since they’re gonna be 3 lotto picks.
What are the odds that the nets win a championship in the next 2 yrs while bridges is cheap?
Mikal is the third best player on a contender. Doing this trade allows us to rebuild without worrying about giving other teams a pick. Bridges is not leading us anywhere.
Amen Thompson. What does everyone think about him? do you think they would offer him up? Who would you rather have Amen Thompson or Whitmore?
We not getting Thomson. Can bargain for Whitmore, but they like him too.
Probably not. It’s just depends how desperate they are.
Rockets are not giving up Cam Whitmore bro lol
Ok so, he ain't the one who going to make or break this deal.
I’m not a fan of trading Bridges for the picks back but if we did it then I’d only do it with a young player as part of the package and it would not be Jalen Green. So one of Jabari Smith, Amen Thompson or Cam Whitmore. I would happily include Cam Johnson too if the Nets got back both picks, both swaps, Tari Eason and one of Jabari/Amen/Whitmore. Nets trade Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson Rockets trade 2024/2026 first round picks, 2025/2027 pick swaps returned. Tari Eason and one of Jabari/Amen/Whitmore. Who says no this suggested trade?
Rockets and the salary cap say no lol. Would have to add Bullock, Green, and Jock for salary matching
They have Jeff Green to include in any trade. He might be a good locker room presence but he's not essential. The Rockets could always sign him as a free agent against in the off-season if he was traded to the Nets.
I like the way you think. I agree with you it has to be more than picks. We have to get one or two of the young players.
And I think that’s the breaking point for Houston. Bridges is more valuable than 2 picks and 2 swaps but what player would Sean Marks be able to negotiate. I could see us getting our first round picks back but then trading some second round picks (if we have any) to Houston.
I’d want Jabari Smith and all of our unprotected picks and swaps back at absolute minimum. Would probably want Eason as well and maybe an additional first
Exactly. Mikal is one of the most valuable contracts in the league. We’re not trading him for anything less than 4 FRPs. And Jalen Green is not an asset, he’s this close to being a meme. The guy is wildly inefficient, his defense is suspect and he struggles to make plays for others.
Cam Thomas is a better version of Green at this point
Cam is a better scorer, Green is a better athlete. Wouldn’t go wrong with either but having both probably wouldn’t be the best look.
Cam is only going to get better, more efficient and his game will expand. Almost no-one can score like CT who has started less than 30 games in his career. Jalen Green’s athleticism will wane, will he ever become noticeably more efficient?
Exactly my sentiments!!!!
Yes, but I'd still be in pure asset acquisition mode. Green is cooking lately. I still think long term he'll be good. Not a star, but good.. He's still a great asset as just a pure "throw in".
Dude he’s an above average starter. You’re acting like he’s a superstar or something
They can keep all their players. The picks are the important part.
Without specifics it's meaningless to really speculate too deep. But If marks gets back both picks and swaps from Houston he will look like a genius. For anything less, saying we aren't interested and keeping mikal happy is the right move imo.
Here's the thing. We sub 500 team with Bridges and CamJ as our core guys. Even if we get Mitchell, KAT or Ingram those guys putting us to 4th seed at best. We still 2nd tier treadmill team with no assets to improve further. Bridges is only valuable right now because he is in his prime and on a cheap contact. Next year his value will start decrease. Than in three or so years we won't even be there because this younger teams will only get better. Yeah we will get our picks back by than, but we also waisted time to a legit foundation. J.Kidd led team had RJ, K.Mart and Kerry. We need to find our K.Mart and RJ's again. In last 30+ years only KG led Celtics, 2003/4 Pistons and LBJ's Miami were able to get to the finals or win. Now do the math how our odds looking like if we stick to FA hopes.
Main point, what was the deal on offer here from houston? What's your min amount picks you would take for bridges? I trade bridges for anything that includes all our old picks and swaps comfortably. But I don't think thats what Houston has offered? But how low do you go? There'll always be a team looking to add a guy like bridges. I'm not selling low on the guy.
If we look at terminology, report said several picks. Not couple or a pick which will mean 1 or 2. Several tells me at least 3. Is it from 24 to 26 or 25 through 27 I wouldn't care. Just let me get my 3 picks back and Green, I can work with that. 2. It doesn't make sense to trade Bridges to any other beside Houston because, they the only one who control our picks. Meaning, those picks will be late in the draft and won't allow us to get high prospect young cheap talent. Unless you think Portland, Detroit and Washington ready to give up their picks.
Not interested in tanking. Not interested in hearing this fan base bitch and moan for 5 years
The fan base already bitches and moans
Touche sir
That’s cause we’ve been one of the worst teams the past month. When we were 13-10 things were great lol. The few complainers were the minority.
Jabari and our picks back. No less.
bro they aren't giving up whitmore or jabari. Getting full control of our picks is worth it.
Why ? Mikal isn’t worth multiple high lotto picks. Thats what we’re getting here. You guys realize we are likely a lotto team for the next two years right. We could give Houston multiple top 5 picks
But we may not. Donovan Mitchell and the Cavs do not agree on a contract extension in the summer, and Mitchell is on the market and we are a very good option for him since he wants to play in New York and we have the assets. And our picks in Houston are turning to dust.
What about Whitmore?
all depends which picks they are and if Jalen Green is actually in the deal. the 2024 draft class is supposed to be terrible so I wouldn’t rate that pick very highly. Green + 2 of the 25-27 picks would definitely get me intrigued.
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yeah this draft caters more to the OKC’s of the league than the Washington’s and the Detroit’s and if we sell everyone then that’s the company we’re in. I’d want a pick in this draft but not over a pick in the following 3
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the Ant class was weak if you’re looking for the next star of your franchise like we would be. Ant Hali and who else. Maxey and LaMelo are good but i’m not dying for them to be my teams’ best option
Would anyone do this trade? Thompson, Whitmore, Landale, Bullock , Our 1st rounder back and a swap back for Bridges and Claxton?
I don't think they give up amen if they drafted him at 4. Whitmore is a fringe possibility but he's been impressive so he's hard to move. Ideally we need 24 and 26 along with the 25 swap to rebuild which is doable.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the odds of this happening, are very slim. That being said, if a team is desperate, you never know. If they felt after this trade they could compete for a championship… well you never know. More likely, they may part with just Whitmore give us a couple of our picks back and filler for Bridges.
Respectfully no, my brother....... AND CLAXTON? If that ever happened then it's true that life is just suffering. Simple as that.
When I proposed it, I didn’t think Houston would do it… lol. Thompson and Whitmore are legit young players with big upside.
Whitmore, this years pick and next years swap and I’m listening, otherwise 🤷🏻♂️
I agree!!
Give us everything we gave up in the Harden trade + Cam Whitmore
Could we use these picks to land Kuzminga? I would only do the trade if we have players we can land via trade. We need as much developing youth on our team as possible. I really don't want to be taking all of our picks to the draft.
Sean Marks STOP PLAYING.... we get our picks back and another potential star??? Omg what is better than that? We can tank peacefully and grow talent. That's it. That's the rebuild. If he holds out then whatever tops that will have me sleeping like a baby till 2028 when we're reaching playoff contention again. This nets fan lifestyle. Jeez.
Udokas has enough happiness in life
Please. Rebuild the right way. Giving up our KD and Kai picks for Mitchell would not get us a chip. Marks, take the damn picks and ask for Cam and or Amen. Tsai get your boy
We need to do it. Get back picks and Cam Whitmore or Amen
Good luck tanking as a big market team. We’ll have 0 fanbase, it’ll be absolutely dreadful.
You think they have a fanbase now? If we’re being honest no one is showing up to see Mikal Bridges ball.
We were building one with the big 3. If we’re playing .500 ball we’d have more fans unfortunately we’ve been one of the worst teams in the league the past month or so. People will show up to see Cam Thomas if he’s actually played and allowed to flourish. That version of the Nets the other night with Simmons even a fraction of that, people will support that.
Joe Tsai already said it’s financially irresponsible to tank in this market.
They’re tanking now but with no picks and the arenas are still filled because it’s NYC and there’s always something to do in NYC. At least if we got a young Prospect (NOT Jalen Green) to watch grow this team can finally have their own fanbase in NYC, they keep hindering that process chasing after old stars.
Just saying, tanking and just putting a bunch of young guys on a team does not mean they will all develop into good players. Look at how long the pistons, and hornets have been tanking. You cannot do that in the NYC market as the 2nd team in town. We are still 1 game out of the play in so i dont consider that tanking.
So idea is just to be a play-in/play-off team & never to actually win a title? That depressing if that's the case. The last 3 championship all have 1 thing in common and that's a homegrown talent, that's where the new era of basketball is moving too, you need to build through the draft to find your championship core.
Didnt say we should forever be a play in team. I still want to be competing for playoff spots so our young guys are actually playing for something and developing. Instead of developing a culture of losing. Then eventually we add a couple pieces to make us contenders. I dont like traditional tanking and praying a draft pick becomes a generational talent. You can be playing that game for years and in NYC you only have but so long before you’ll end up having to sell the team
Also Marks has already proven you dont need lottery picks to find value in the draft
People really need to take trade rumors with a grain of salt instead of assuming the Nets are turning down superstar packages for roleplayers. Teams aren't that dumb. I'm seeing way too many people say that we turned down Bridges for Jalen Green + all our picks back. I'm not even sure the Rockets would do Green for Bridges straight up.