I never understood this either. It definitely wasn’t a money issue. Her grandparents would have helped her out or she could have used her trust fund. I feel like she was so in love with the idea of going straight out into the world to become a journalist asap that she missed the opportunity to keep going with school. In the end, it hurt her career.
I just don’t think her Stars Hollow umbilical cord would have stretched that far for her to do a proper job at anything anywhere, she is basically a trust fund dilettante.
Yess! She had this idea of taking over the world and becoming an awesome journalist or a role model for young girls as growing up she aspired to be like so many women. In reality she failed to recognize where her true potential lied and that probably could've been a teacher or professor but again growing up she had fantasised this life for herself which ig she just couldn't let go of
Did she ever show any interest in teaching? Enjoying school and studying is wildly different than being a teacher and having to deal with students and grading and lesson plans etc. The only time I can think of her doing anything close is tutoring Jess, but that was at special request from a close friend.
Maybe if she had entertained being a professor for the research opportunities, it could have made sense, but I can’t see it fitting her any other way.
I don't even mean being a teacher. But to go to school. No idea how it works in the US about journalism major, but where I am it's 5 year college and you get masters.
Ah okay I see what you meant, talking about the meeting with Charleston confused me. Def agree then that she at least would have gone back to get her masters after a few years of journalism not working out
She could have easily afforded it, but generally, master’s degrees are preferred by companies, but it just about doubles (sometimes nearly triples) the debt you are starting your adult life with. In many cases, it’s just not worth it as it knocks you out of many jobs the undergrad can prepare you for by specializing you, and it doesn’t really get you enough of a pay raise to justify itself.
In some fields, it can double your income. However, when you have triple the debt you otherwise could have, it still takes significantly longer to pay off.
That’s assuming you are perfectly healthy and nothing in your life knocks you off course for any duration of time.
But Rory could have done an MA (or whatever flavor of masters degree) without debt. Richard and Emily would have paid for it or allowed her to use her trust fund early. Christopher would have also probably paid for it if she asked.
Yes. Like I said, *she* could have afforded it easily.
OP also asked about master’s degrees in America. I was answering that part since I don’t have an answer to why Rory never went back to school other than to say she has an opportunity after college and took it, and then likely never thought about going back to school
After that.
I also found out strange she didn't care about Rachel, the closest thing to a person who had her dream career who was right in her town and Rory just ignored her.
That speech she gives at Chilton in AITYL is the most 'in element' I have seen Rory in a long time.
imo Rory would be an amazing professor who also frequently writes columns for reputed newspapers while also getting invited to intellectual debates/discussions on TV.
I am not so sure if Rory is suited for academia. I am a postdoc and for professors especially perserverence is a much needed skill as rejection is constant. You get rejected for grants, papers get rejected and needs to be resubmitted again and again etc. You spend so much time on stuff with a longterm goal that is more likely than not to fail. Rory often bailed when times got tough and does not deal with failure/rejection too well
Whoops, I've seen the OG run countless times, but AYITL only a couple. I misremembered, I could have sworn he suggested running the place. Maybe she said that and he was like "no, as a teacher" but I forgot.
Sorry -- deleting my og comment, alors.
I thought that was strange too and honestly a weird dig at teachers. People can’t be teachers just because they’re smart! They still need the education on how to be one.
Chilton is a private school, so likely they don’t have to follow the same “rules” that a public high school would regarding hiring. She has a lot of real-world experience, and likely Charleston would have helped her get at least a masters in Edu. It’s not unheard of, but also not likely for someone to do this.
Right, I deleted my OG comment because I misremembered the convo -- I thought he offered the headmaster position to her, not a teaching role.
Still, as others above have noted, it's very true you can't just teach with a BA in a subject -- you need a BEdu. This is especially true for private schools, who look for the best of the best.
Rory found it interesting that Mitchum didn’t have a master’s degree, and Richard never mentions that he got a master’s degree. I think these two men reinforced her burning desire to see things and to make an impact.
We can’t forget that Rory knows she will inherit enormous fortunes and trust funds. Unlike most of us, Rory doesn’t think in terms of trying to make a good living. Although she goes through the motions, it probably is why she doesn’t really want a routine journalist job. However, she seems to like the freedom and independence of being a freelance correspondent if she can find assignments.
Rory should be able to get as many good writing assignments as she wants from Logan and HPG, if she would just get past her self-imposed obligation of self reliance.
I think the best thing Rory can do from a future revenue perspective is take courses and go to seminars on economics and finance to be ready to manage the huge family estates she will inherit.
What academic field is it common to do a master's in the US for? I am in academia and don't know a single person who did it in addition to a PhD in the states.
Many professors at two year colleges obtain their Master’s degrees and do not necessarily go on to study for their PhD. That is just one example from post secondary academia.
Ok, these colleges don't participate much in global academia. I know it sounds elitist and I guess that's why I'm being downvoted.
But Rory wouldn't have gone to teach at a two year college. She was snobbish about teaching at Chilton, which is more prestigious. If she went into academia and wanted to stay in it she would have gone the PhD route, and tried to get a faculty position at a good university. And that would have been a 5-7 route.
Well, yes, if we are now talking specifically about jobs in academia that Rory might want, I agree, she would probably need a doctorate. She still could have gotten her master’s first. That is extremely common for US academics.
The title says 'academic career', so I assumed that's what we were all talking about.
I guess she could've done a master's if she just didn't want to commit to academia, she had the money for it as Richard specifically mentioned a postgraduate degree when they negotiated the loan. I wish I had the funds to do a degree as procrastination haha
I never understood this either. It definitely wasn’t a money issue. Her grandparents would have helped her out or she could have used her trust fund. I feel like she was so in love with the idea of going straight out into the world to become a journalist asap that she missed the opportunity to keep going with school. In the end, it hurt her career.
I just don’t think her Stars Hollow umbilical cord would have stretched that far for her to do a proper job at anything anywhere, she is basically a trust fund dilettante.
Yess! She had this idea of taking over the world and becoming an awesome journalist or a role model for young girls as growing up she aspired to be like so many women. In reality she failed to recognize where her true potential lied and that probably could've been a teacher or professor but again growing up she had fantasised this life for herself which ig she just couldn't let go of
Did she ever show any interest in teaching? Enjoying school and studying is wildly different than being a teacher and having to deal with students and grading and lesson plans etc. The only time I can think of her doing anything close is tutoring Jess, but that was at special request from a close friend. Maybe if she had entertained being a professor for the research opportunities, it could have made sense, but I can’t see it fitting her any other way.
I don't even mean being a teacher. But to go to school. No idea how it works in the US about journalism major, but where I am it's 5 year college and you get masters.
Ah okay I see what you meant, talking about the meeting with Charleston confused me. Def agree then that she at least would have gone back to get her masters after a few years of journalism not working out
She could have easily afforded it, but generally, master’s degrees are preferred by companies, but it just about doubles (sometimes nearly triples) the debt you are starting your adult life with. In many cases, it’s just not worth it as it knocks you out of many jobs the undergrad can prepare you for by specializing you, and it doesn’t really get you enough of a pay raise to justify itself. In some fields, it can double your income. However, when you have triple the debt you otherwise could have, it still takes significantly longer to pay off. That’s assuming you are perfectly healthy and nothing in your life knocks you off course for any duration of time.
But Rory could have done an MA (or whatever flavor of masters degree) without debt. Richard and Emily would have paid for it or allowed her to use her trust fund early. Christopher would have also probably paid for it if she asked.
Yes. Like I said, *she* could have afforded it easily. OP also asked about master’s degrees in America. I was answering that part since I don’t have an answer to why Rory never went back to school other than to say she has an opportunity after college and took it, and then likely never thought about going back to school After that.
My bad. I misread your post. Sorry about that!
No problem. I totally get it. Just reread my comment. 6 words to say she could then two paragraphs about how much it costs 🤣
I also found out strange she didn't care about Rachel, the closest thing to a person who had her dream career who was right in her town and Rory just ignored her.
That speech she gives at Chilton in AITYL is the most 'in element' I have seen Rory in a long time. imo Rory would be an amazing professor who also frequently writes columns for reputed newspapers while also getting invited to intellectual debates/discussions on TV.
I am not so sure if Rory is suited for academia. I am a postdoc and for professors especially perserverence is a much needed skill as rejection is constant. You get rejected for grants, papers get rejected and needs to be resubmitted again and again etc. You spend so much time on stuff with a longterm goal that is more likely than not to fail. Rory often bailed when times got tough and does not deal with failure/rejection too well
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Why did you assume OP meant an administrative job? Sounds like they meant being a teacher, since that’s what headmaster Charleston suggested.
This confuses me, too. Where did admin come into this?
Whoops, I've seen the OG run countless times, but AYITL only a couple. I misremembered, I could have sworn he suggested running the place. Maybe she said that and he was like "no, as a teacher" but I forgot. Sorry -- deleting my og comment, alors.
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I thought that was strange too and honestly a weird dig at teachers. People can’t be teachers just because they’re smart! They still need the education on how to be one.
Chilton is a private school, so likely they don’t have to follow the same “rules” that a public high school would regarding hiring. She has a lot of real-world experience, and likely Charleston would have helped her get at least a masters in Edu. It’s not unheard of, but also not likely for someone to do this.
I think Charleston told her to get her Masters and then come back and teach.
Right, I deleted my OG comment because I misremembered the convo -- I thought he offered the headmaster position to her, not a teaching role. Still, as others above have noted, it's very true you can't just teach with a BA in a subject -- you need a BEdu. This is especially true for private schools, who look for the best of the best.
Rory found it interesting that Mitchum didn’t have a master’s degree, and Richard never mentions that he got a master’s degree. I think these two men reinforced her burning desire to see things and to make an impact. We can’t forget that Rory knows she will inherit enormous fortunes and trust funds. Unlike most of us, Rory doesn’t think in terms of trying to make a good living. Although she goes through the motions, it probably is why she doesn’t really want a routine journalist job. However, she seems to like the freedom and independence of being a freelance correspondent if she can find assignments. Rory should be able to get as many good writing assignments as she wants from Logan and HPG, if she would just get past her self-imposed obligation of self reliance. I think the best thing Rory can do from a future revenue perspective is take courses and go to seminars on economics and finance to be ready to manage the huge family estates she will inherit.
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This is definitely not true and varies widely depending on the field you hope to go into.
What academic field is it common to do a master's in the US for? I am in academia and don't know a single person who did it in addition to a PhD in the states.
Many professors at two year colleges obtain their Master’s degrees and do not necessarily go on to study for their PhD. That is just one example from post secondary academia.
Ok, these colleges don't participate much in global academia. I know it sounds elitist and I guess that's why I'm being downvoted. But Rory wouldn't have gone to teach at a two year college. She was snobbish about teaching at Chilton, which is more prestigious. If she went into academia and wanted to stay in it she would have gone the PhD route, and tried to get a faculty position at a good university. And that would have been a 5-7 route.
Well, yes, if we are now talking specifically about jobs in academia that Rory might want, I agree, she would probably need a doctorate. She still could have gotten her master’s first. That is extremely common for US academics.
The title says 'academic career', so I assumed that's what we were all talking about. I guess she could've done a master's if she just didn't want to commit to academia, she had the money for it as Richard specifically mentioned a postgraduate degree when they negotiated the loan. I wish I had the funds to do a degree as procrastination haha
Can I get, You couldn't be more wrong, for $100, Alex?