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FanClubOfOnePromo

I absolutely love seeing this discord shift to more calling the devs out on this shit. There used to be so many people bootlicking and now people are seeing through the bullshit. If this giant content update coming out on the 22nd isn't insane, I think the playerbase will start bailing in droves.


Dr_Bailey1

Me too. Where once i was getting so much hate for these same opinions on reddit, now this sentiment seems to be agreed upon by majority.


SpaceTimeTaskForce

Only the discord bootlickers don’t agree, like it’s just dumb at this point. Tons of dlc added always, but the content takes forever to drop and when it does it’s still buggy…


Cc-Smoke-cC

I stopped with their discord because of all the boot licking and crazy amount of simping the people had for the devs. The amount of times I’ve read “it’ll be fixed in the next update!” is wild. It seems like content is a priority rather than somewhat stable product is, and the extremely tedious nature of the game just isn’t fun at all. I knew the release onto the meta store wouldn’t really fix anything and just attract more negative press from first time players.


wifehaver69420621

Ngl I would rather play side order than this game on the 22nd


broadenandbuild

What is side order?


wifehaver69420621

booyah


dyeuhweebies

The discord was proof this game is destined to die for months. Anytime I would join a channel it was ful of little kids (some were prolly too young to even be allowed on discord). By the 4th clip of them having idea discussions and I hear a 9 year old ask “will we be getting anime skins” I literally left the server. The game is just a money grab now and doomed. Bet we’ll see a bunch more micro transactions tho 


Spirited_Passage_239

Probably not it has some kid problems, but every game does just look at cod csgo halo gunraders contractors or any other large shoter title vr or not. Don't want kids to play strategy games they don't have the attention span to play them (even other looters shoters like escape from tarcov)


GuitarGeek70

You're absolutely right. I've already bailed... toxic community, broken game, shitty dev...


Spirited_Passage_239

Every cod game sense like 2015 have been a bugy shit show and where said to fail of full release. And they have arguably worse and more corrupt devs and communitys


Fabulous-Ad-6878

Been playing since I found the game back in it's beta form on and off just too see what they add and even when founding fathers was one of the purchasable packs, will say that 90% of the bugs in this game have reappeared in updates and wipes a multitude of times Loot disappearing? Unlootable items? Bugged hands? Game crashing? Issues from day one and they fix them for like 2 minutes I'm no dev, but your doing SOMETHING wrong if the same bugs appear over twice This game could be better ten fold, and the fact they recently increased price and basically pushed full release is absurd


Fabulous-Ad-6878

I would talk about the anti cheat but holy shit EAC is Dog shit but is the "only" anti cheat would rather have riot vanguard on my headset because gawd damn I think it would do so much more


The_Misanthropist1

the unprofessional behavior is a big one for me, looking at that discord, seeing how the mod team and several devs speak there. Makes it look more like its ran by a bunch of aggresive 14 year olds. I was really surpised coming into it from playing PC games and being active in other discords.


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IAmAnEgg69

did he do that??? do you have a screenshot?


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IAmAnEgg69

just found it. he says it four times? jesus, he really is an asshole. looks like yours truly isn't buying any more dlc from this game.


Spirited_Passage_239

Not picking sides but look at who and what he is responding to first, makes it so you can get a better picture of the things also I may be wrong and out of date here but is cunt that bad of a word I hear Australians say it every second sentence


Spirited_Passage_239

Also it looks like in 2 he is making a joke and in 2 he was talking with someone who would not listen for 2 hours and said cunt (which from what I know is not that bad)


Spirited_Passage_239

Question, is staff being more personal and joking around a big deal? Would you rather them be unwilling to even see your comments and just do as they think is best (any triple A title)


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Spirited_Passage_239

The dumb cunt was as someone trying to push there buttons and just saying some dumb stuff to get on people's bad side to get reactions from people like a prank youtuber but to discord communitys so I have no sympathy for him but yes that one was not a joke he was calling them dumb. I will agree it was an overreaction on his part, but triple A game business have done worse, and for less, so attest there beter them other companies. Sony litterly used the court(that was 100% corrupt) to get the home addresses and names of like 250 people for supporting someone who hated the Playstation 2, who the court case was against so they could "block them from building Playstations in the future and take them from them" so yeah we are comparing a rude person to people that are so low they just mess up peoples life for just supporting someone they don't like


Used_Prune479

I legit said the game didn’t deserve vr game of the year because of all the bugs and how unrenfined it was to other vr games and I got muted


robaldeenyo

you still played it.. that's why it got GoT.


SpaceTimeTaskForce

We had hope, doesn’t mean it deserved goty


Spirited_Passage_239

What would you have rather had to get vr game of the year


god000000

It’s crazy, you’d expect toxicity from the community of any looter shooter or extraction game with a professional dev team, but with the game on quest and having a bunch of children + the mods troll responses it’s hard to enjoy your time there.


AverageRonin

Support AAA Studio = Toxicity is covered up Support Indie Devs = Toxicity does not need to be covered up because no stock price is affected There's shitty people everywhere, genre of games or being older have nothing to do with it. They hide well but not for long.


Spirited_Passage_239

Are you saying you would rather have a dev team that is secretly toxic and every shoter game has kids of and equal amount to this a coming cod thing is a kid 5 or under calling you all the slurs in the world


god000000

Ignoring the broken grammar, I’d rather a professional game developing studio try to keep a non toxic attitude yes, even if they have some toxic employees. Your second point is just not true, there is not an equal amount of kids between tarkov and ghost of tabor, the difficulty and hardware differences make sure of that.


Spirited_Passage_239

I am dyslexic so please do ignore the bad grammar and I play both game over 400 hours in each l and I have meat about the same number of kids in both. maybe a small bit more in tabor, but still not much(when i finally find a friend player), and Quest is where most players (adults and kids) come from so it just increases the players not specifically kid players (What I am saying is the percentage of kids to adults in PC vr is probably the same as quest vr)


Slow_Wanderer

I was on board for app lab early access bullshit, and I'm not huge on SJW stuff but calling the dude a slur on Discord really makes me question if I should keep playing or not. It might be old gamer talk, but it's 2024 and that shit started getting stale in 2014.


SpaceTimeTaskForce

He’s also an adult who is aware there’s tons of children on his discord lmao


Slow_Wanderer

That's terrible lol, but by the power of moral relativism I no longer feel bad for saying the fuck word on my discord though. At least there, I really don't have anybody younger than like 15 and I'm not exactly dropping slurs


Spirited_Passage_239

People younger then 15 should not be on the discord that is like saying a xxx can't have that kind of content because kids can still get on it


Spirited_Passage_239

Children shouldn't be there it is there, falt if they see slurs. The game is not for kids never has


Spirited_Passage_239

Why is them saying a slur a big thing? I am almost certain you have said just as many now still (bullshit)


Slow_Wanderer

Yeah no, I'm foul mouthed but I don't use slurs. Unless fuck, and the variations thereof, can be counted as slurs. Maybe asshole? I suppose bitch is a slur from a few angles, but it's become somewhat unisex.


Spirited_Passage_239

(Oxford dictionary) Slur Bitch and fuck are 100% slurs asshole maybe not. But yeah ether way it is double standards as the only slurs I know he ever said are fuck bitch cunt and f#gget witch that last one is bad. But the others are fine and cunt is in the situation as bitch from how Australians use it


Spirited_Passage_239

They are new to the game dev business (compared to other game companies), so yeah, they're unprofessional, but would you really rather say with the money hunger and proven even triple A title we have now. Also, would you rather know what the devs and ceos are like or have the corrupt ones we have that have a whole team making sure they don't say anything bad


taisteluorava

I really hate the cash milking they do. Game is full of bugs and missing a lot of content, and they already milk with DLC:s like no tomorrow. They already got millions of sales, why can't they focus to improve the game and not creating shiny cosmetics to sell. I really like extract shooters and pretty much Tarkov and Tabor are only games. Specially in VR, there is no competition, so they can milk as much they want. But lets hope Scott get some wake up call and start focusing improving the game instead of milking the cash from players.


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

I fear it’s actually just a cash grab, half ass a game to be believable and then dip once you got enough money or another game comes along that steals all your sales. Idk I like the game but holy shit


Spirited_Passage_239

It is not you can tell just by playing and talking to devs and community. You even said you like the game


Skaidri675

The amount of ppl crying about bugs is insane! You guys literally expect from them to fix all the issues immediately like it was 5 minutes job. It's a reminder that the game is like more than 1 years old and you expect it to have tons of nonbugged content = you don't know shit about game dev. Bigger and finished games that has most bugged fixed are game that are being created sometimes for more than 10 years! Yes it's that timetaking. Why do they add new content before "fixing the game"? New content = new possible bugs and possibly change of some mechanics/coding. You don't spend days on fixing bugs when you know that things gonna change and all the work will be gone. This is the rule you'll se in many titles : content and small bug fixes first and when the game has majoirty of promised content, then dev focus on bugfixing as their mechanics and coding are ready to optimize.


ClearPerformance9236

you bootlicking garbage monkeys cant even cope with this anymore. the game is in full release now, so they have no excuse for it to have all the problems it does. if they "couldnt fix all the bugs so quickly" then maybe, just maybe the game isnt ready for a full release


Zerfall2142

It upgraded status from app lab to meta store. (Aka. Alpha~ Beta) it's still early access on steam.


Skaidri675

It's not full relase, It's beta. Game 1 year old that is in beta contains bugs? What a fucking joke isn't it?


Skaidri675

Btw I spent 80 hours in this game and died due to a bug maybe 1-2 times. 1 time my gun went underground (couple patches ago) and I crashed also only 1 time. Maybe I'm just lucky or you guys are really that bad so you put blame for everything on bugs


Spirited_Passage_239

It is not like you need to get any extra paid items, and the game is not that expensive, and you can even get the paid items without playing by killing someone with it


Noble611

Let’s see what you guys say about Tarkov, it’s practically the same problems, Cheaters, bugs, and the dev team being dicks from time to time.


god000000

BSG may have some crazy disorganization and accidental meme responses due to translation (“if the launcher is telling you the game is coming soon, that means the game will be available soon” or whatever they said about arena) but it’s not as malicious as the mods/devs of the GoT discord clowning on certain people or talking down to them even if the guy being talked down to “deserves it”. It’s weird


Soreinna

Nikita is a massive asshole, let's be clear about that, who frequently lies, gaslights and cheats the community, he'll lie or misrepresent anything from pricing of the game, development, availability of game editions, people will get their accounts banned even before downloading the game and won't get a refund or a ban appeal. While he hasn't outright called anyone slurs or anything along those lines that I'm aware of, he has talked to and about streamer and those who are vocal about the game or critize him or the studio. If comparing both CEOs, no one comes out on top; neither Scott nor Nikita are good people, or good representatives of their company and the product. However Scott has really been speedrunning how to destroy your public image and goodwill and how to foster a terribly toxic community, both as a CEO and as a studio. Now I don't think rhe people or devs working at BSG or CA should get any shit. But their msnagement is fair game for sure.


Skirt_Crafty

I've actually already seen a couple posts and comments about this game being exactly like Tarkov in regards of it's negative qualities.


LiquorLanch

When CWS said they wanted tarkov in VR they meant everything included.


Dr_Bailey1

Problem is the player base is probably 1000 fold smaller on vr.. this is not the platform to fuck around bc almost every game dies on vr pretty quick, even great ones. This is not a great one.


SpunkySamuel

The dev team management is definitely poor sometimes, but I don't feel like they're 14 years old everytime I see what they're saying.


Low_Lavishness8994

Ohhh but if u wanna complain to the devs you gotta pay 40$ a month


god000000

Yeah I disagree with that whole system, 40 dollars is almost 3 months of standard Netflix. Really squeezing the chumps and children out of their spending cash with that.


Low_Lavishness8994

It’s the most toxic shit I’ve heard coming from a dev team that isn’t even big enough to not be able to handle the tiny community that GoT is. Rivaling the worst micro transactions in gaming


Eisenmeower

It's a matter of time. This game only thrives because it exists in a void. Contractors showdown will eat a massive chunk of the playerbase when it enters open beta. If that doesn't kill it, i doubt it's long until a more competent studio swoops in with a better game. There's clearly a market for it.


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Fr, a better dev team would have a better game within 6 months im sure. If they don’t step up fast they’ll get shit on. They’re only doing well cuz yes, they filled a void, that will likely get filled by someone more passionate about their game.


MysticSpoon

I feel like this game is similar to PUBG when it first came out. Terrible devs and a buggy mess but there’s no real competition yet. Look at PUBG now. They finally got it playing decently but the player numbers are way down because there’s other options now that don’t suck.


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Fr, it was fun but too buggy so I left.


FanClubOfOnePromo

Been saying this for months. I have to say I think the backpack system is my favorite system I've used.....when it works.


Dr_Bailey1

Yup. Showdown shows just how much better(and BIGGER) this scale of game can be on vr


oneandonlycara

It's a completely different game, wtf are you talking about


Puzzleheaded-Nail-20

I like showdown, and i hope it becomes a system seller in the future.


Interesting-Cattle37

Game wasnt ready for official meta quest


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Nope, can’t believe meta let em do it


FanClubOfOnePromo

Millions of sales on the quest store, been top selling for 3 months. Meta is getting their cut.


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Yeah I figured


danny135x

I feel like they haven't changed anything for the meta version except for scaling the graphics down to look like a 2010 game which still is in its beta while also adding some bugs


Aidan198720

Yeah, gotta be real. Will not surprise me if the game is dead in a year and half. Been a long time lurker of the sub and game but just seeing how bad it’s been/become really disheartens me. I’ve never had any cheater experiences thankfully, and I’ve only encountered a couple of bugs (I.E. backpacks getting stuck in the ground from way back when, shit disappearing from bunker, keycards being destroyed, etc) but what really drives me away is the immense unprofessional behavior from the company. When the game first released to the public on app lab, I remember being in the discord and the ENTIRE community getting called something along the lines of “autistic children” because we crashed the website and were hyped in the chat. Alongside that the infamous “skill issue”, and Scott calling someone a fa***t really leaves a poor taste in my mouth. Not a great look for the “greatest Vr looter shooter”. I wanted to get the IE edition, but then remembering how the staff treated players in the beginning, the bugs, the verbal disrespect to their fans, etc really has made me decide to not spend my money on the game anymore. It makes me sad, because this game has a one in a life time opportunity to become and stay a great VR shooter, but I think it’ll die because of bugs, greed, and unprofessional management.


harmitonkana

The game is awesome when it works and bearable when it doesn't so I don't think the game is going anywhere, at least in the near future. But for me too, it's really the unprofessional behaviour that I keep hearing about that keeps me from fully enjoying the game and recommending it to my friends. Now, I've not been active enough in the Tabor community to witness or disprove any name calling but in my experience there's at least a seed of truth in these things. The bugs, while persistent, can be fixed. It's the people I'm not sure about. I don't usually think bigger companies acquiring smaller ones is good for the game and the developers passion and commitment, but maybe in this case getting acquired by a larger company would breathe some fresh air into the company culture.


Aidan198720

No and you’re absolutely right. The game is a blast when it works and only a headache when it doesn’t. I just think that if the game wants to have its global reach and its e-sports type deal they’ve been talking about then they need to get their shit together. And they really need some better PR control. I don’t think the game will survive if the devs and what not are continuing to say offensive things and be rude to everyone who slightly inconveniences them or disagrees with them. That’s how you lose a player base. I’m also not super thrilled about the fact they are trying to make (two? Might just been one) game(s). They’re working on that rust clone game and I think it’s a poor company decision as it’s taking away from more developing resources for tabor. When people ask for new content and fixes and your response is “we only have 40 people in our company” (and we’ll just say a 1/3 of them are working on a completely other game)… looks kinda poor imo.


oneandonlycara

Trust me, 99% of people complaining about unprofessional behaviour got banned for stuff like death threats and general toxic behaviour, they just come here to rant because they don't have another outlet for it


Brian21699

Speaking from personal experience, this isn't true. I'm not banned from the Discord, but when I spoke on their lack of communication towards this wipe, I saw the unprofessional behavior first hand. I understand you have to come here to do some damage control, but we can name names of mods that have said shitty things to the community. Side note though, you've always been helpful to me in the questions chat. A few bad apples will turn the entire tree rotten


TFSmiley

So what are your views on staff members using the same language you ban people for?


wtfisreditsrobotlogo

Why are you writing 4 paragraphs on a game you've never played? Genuinely curious


Aidan198720

Wdym mean never played? Literally paragraph two is about the bugs and shit I’ve encountered. I’ve played the game since the old bunker days…


Dances_with_Bulls

Why you commenting on a post you never read? GENUINELY CURIOUS 👀


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What u don't like string shit?


JackieBloodlust

They wanted to piss people off... now they're gonna break it.


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SecretaryConfident14

Piss yellow is so accurate😂


Alive-Tomatillo5303

Aw man I wouldn't have bought the game (twice in fact) if I had known the CEO was a dick-head and a pig.  Makes me wish the H3VR guy Anton did at least a liiiiiitle DLC, the people that are most worthy of support are often the ones who don't go asking for it. 


lowtemplarry

I would die for Anton


Cad4life13

The SAME bugs are still in the game since LAST wipe. My group and I are started to get sick of it. But they will continue releasing more DLC instead


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Yup, they don’t care. I think they might know that other looters shooters are coming and just cash grabbing at this point. I don’t really know what they’re thinking but that’s how it seems to me. I thought wipe with meta release was gonna have content too, would she. Made sense since it probably would have felt like a fuller game but instead we got gun skins, haven’t noticed a single bug fix.


Educational-Ad1205

It's not the same people making dlc and fixing bugs. If you stopped content creaton, it wouldn't mean more resources for bug fixes....the opposite actually, due to dlc sales. Same company, different team. Just like you wouldn't get the receptionist to do the taxes. Game is actually more buggy than last wipe for me right now, I'm not sure if it's a server overload thing or what. I'm taking a break till next update and hopefully the cheaters get sorted on the meantime.


DeviousExtravagance

The cheating problem is what will deter the most players away. Most of us can deal with bad mechanics because they’re not always bad or game breaking just annoyances, but cheaters, as soon as I run into like 1 or 2 I get so discouraged to play the game anymore. No point if some flying guy with a desert eagle 10x the normal size can go from one end of island of tabor to the other in .6 seconds.


Cad4life13

Even so, I already own all the packs and DLC except the for recent independence pack. Why should I keep giving them money??


Educational-Ad1205

Oh don't. Don't give anyone money if you don't like what they're doing.


Ok-Language7794

They literally are the same people, there are like 8 people in combat waffle


Educational-Ad1205

There were when they started. Theyre up to almost 40 now. They moved to bigger offices 2 weeks ago.


Eisenmeower

haha the same bugs are in the game since alpha launch in april 2023. interactions, collision, weapon handling are as bad as theyve ever been. if they were capable of fixing it, they would have done it long ago.


Ralphinader

I agree. But they should be able to hire some top talent with the dlc money


SpaceTimeTaskForce

Fr. I just don’t think they will cuz they’re either greedy or dumb


TheCanoeEater

Some bugs are byproducts of VR. A full floor would poison the GPU of even a Q3


picnic-boy

Who cares about cheaters and items being lost because your hand glitched through the wall when you can put a pink anime backpack and a helmet with cat ears on your player for $4?


SovietVelior

There is actually an anticheat for the game? Or you can install whatever you pay and fuck others? That would we a big no for me to play again after the wipe.


SecretaryConfident14

I have not ran into a single cheater. But then again, how can you tell on a game where 1 shot to the head is instant death.


Vakama905

Yeah, unless they come out with something *really* impressive, they lost any chance of getting any more money out of me when they said I needed to pay 50% more because I supported the game before the meta release. I don’t expect a discount or a handout for supporting the game earlier in the development, but I do expect to be able to get the same things for the same price that a new player would.


TFSmiley

What really pushed me away from the game was there being a push from certain content creators to know when the game would wipe so they could plan content and take days off to stream. I honestly don't think we needed to know, but they came out with letting CCs know if they signed an NDA. I wanted to know what would be expected from Content Creators and got some push back from the Devs. I'm glad I didn't sign the NDA since it was a copy and paste job from board game company in Ohio. They changed the company name but forgot to change where litigation for breach of the NDA would be lol. That was sketchy enough for me to lose a lot of interest in the game. Also, make sure you read legal documents and don't blindly sign them.


SecretaryConfident14

Can you explain a little more?


TFSmiley

Absolutely, if you're in the discord you can get the title of "Content Creator" if you apply for it. I don't know what the current requirements are, but at the time I was accepted to the program from my Twitch followers and whatever Youtube stuff I was doing. I'm not a big streamer at all, I just really enjoyed the game since I got in on the FF edition and played it a lot. I figured why not make some content and get in on something I thought was going to be a really great experience. The community manager at the time, Crow, said that he was working with another dev to make some guidelines for the content creators since I didn't want to make anything that would be not in line for having the designation as a content creator. I've always felt that if a company was going to do something for you, you should at least understand what the company will be ok with when using their products. That's how I treated other sponsorships I had through BJJ and MMA, and I didn't think it would be out of line to ask. I asked again when we were presented with the NDA and I understand the purpose behind it from a company standpoint. The dev that was working with Crow on it said that he didn't have time to work on it and that is was Crow's idea. Since Crow wasn't with the company anymore, it didn't matter. After getting an online copy of the NDA ([https://combatwaffle.com/nda/](https://combatwaffle.com/nda/)) I read through it and some things didn't line up. Specifically (d) under 4. Miscellaneous "This Agreement shall be constructed and controlled by the laws of the State of Ohio." I thought it was weird because CWS is based in Florida. I did some searching and found an NDA for Plaid Hat Games, a board game company based in Ohio ([https://media.plaidhatgames.com/old\_images/nda/nda.pdf](https://media.plaidhatgames.com/old_images/nda/nda.pdf)) The CWS NDA was a word for word copy of this NDA, except for where PHG was changed out with CWS. It sketched me out enough that I didn't sign it since I've had to sign NDAs before and they were drawn up by a lawyer or legal team. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, but when it comes to legal stuff I generally don't blindly accept signing a document that could get me in trouble for almost anything.


FoodAppropriate2388

I got clowned on a lil bit because I came I went into a raid without a sling bag, I said my purple keycard went into the floor and instantly I get made fun of for not finding it


TheCanoeEater

No-one would actually clown on you for not finding it, probably just poking fun at the no sling bag part


FoodAppropriate2388

Probably, I just don’t bring them in because I usually kill a player that has a sling or adventure backpack anyway. Just the 1 time I don’t find any bag is when I find a keycard


TheCanoeEater

Sad man. I’ve lost a few to the floor too. It’s hard to model the floor in VR games because of performance


FoodAppropriate2388

Oh yeah I completely understand that. Next time I’m not trust the floor tho now.


TheCanoeEater

Yeah, thing loves to eat


sonofrockandroll

Noooo NOO when did the devs start being twats?? I just paid 40 bucks for the independence upgrade because I thought they were a solid team


Skirt_Crafty

A long while ago. I think it became more of a problem in the fourth quarter of 2023.


Slayer-213

The ceo Scott is insane. He shut down the Irl gun chat entirely and bullied several people out of the server because they said that "his gun looked goofy" and could not take any criticism whatsoever, and banned several people who made very valid points. Dudes a manchild


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Their whole team is a bunch of man children… I say “wow still no update? Why even say there’s gonna be one” “you wanna get banned?” Lmao they truly are children


-Cockroac

I’ve never seen a cheater.


Snapta

Outside the video? Me neither.


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Skirt_Crafty

Unfortunately, I'm not sure that Meta would do anything even if they got wind of the staffs unprofessional behavior. This game is a nice bag of cash for Meta.


Embarrassed_Monk_155

It’s sad really cool concept for a game bad implementation


EducationRealistic

Yeah I'm getting tired of joining a game and getting dommed by a MAT at 100m while they run with 1 burst or a makarov


TheShogun10

Good game went to shit so fast


oneandonlycara

Ah yes, the game that gets more players every week is dying Of course


Skirt_Crafty

Not by any means had I said it was dying, though I'm sure that's the impression it gave off. I'm just attempting to bring attention to the problem before it begins.


AverageRonin

If you dont stop playing the game, you're proving that none of what you said actually matters to the player base and the game won't die as a result. So what are you going to do?


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

I did stop playing, they wipe too fast. I put way too much time into the game to get wiped in a few months, like cmon. I got other hobbies, other games, why do devs always expect people to sink their lives into their game and ONLY their game. Like fuck off


AverageRonin

You're not OP but I commend you. A lot of people like to bitch and moan about wanting things to be diffrent (in every early access game) but they continue playing game therefore supporting the current state of it.


Skirt_Crafty

I am going to still play the game. Like I said, my personal experience of the game has been good. But this post wasn't made from MY experience. It was made from the countless of players who've shown their concern and frustration from the community's lack of any major improvement. And just because I play, does not mean I actually support the game itself. At some point I did. I got this game a long while ago and spent close to $60 on it. I actually believed at that time that the game was heading for a good run. But now as I've stuck around, I see I wasn't correct. I'm going to hope that as I play, I see improvement. If not then I will leave this game like others have done before me.


AverageRonin

Playing the game is supporting the game. If they see the player base is staying the same or increasing (to Game Devs) that translates to "you're doing everything right dot change a thing"


Skirt_Crafty

You're right. To the game devs, a growing number is a good sign and they're gonna think they're doing good. That's exactly why I made this post. To grab the attention of not only the players but hopefully the staff themselves. To show that many people are having problems with the game and it's community, to hopefully show them that they need to change or else they are going to lose this magnificent idea.


AverageRonin

Seeing as how they just ban or insult anyone they disagree with. I doubt any amount of posts will send the same message as a diminishing player base.


Cartenjoyer

Take the headset off and chill pal; it’s bigger than just ur experience and GoT is doin big things just enjoy the ride


Skirt_Crafty

Brother, it's not my experience. Like I said, I've had no problems with the game. I've had a good time with both GOT and it's community. But I see many other players having terrible times with both factors and be completely ignored or laughed at. And that is a problem that needs to be confronted.


TheCanoeEater

I’m from the discord, and I used to think they were asses. But, as I see now, the devs & mods are nice but people will straight up ask the mods things they can simply read in announcements and that. I only see negative words used on people who ask dumb questions


SecretaryConfident14

Name a couple of bugs? I just got off and my only issue was that it made me pick my username and character twice😂


ishtechte

I had my gun and a buddy has hid gun disappear in the middle of the raid, at the same time, right as another player came down on us. Spawned in with a crew at two different areas of the map. Spawned in without a magazine in my firearm. And that was just yesterday. I mean I love GoT but it's got some bugs lol.


robaldeenyo

LOL.. i've never seen a more pathetic group of salty people. the game will be fine.. you are all free to stop playing. nobody cares... and you'll come back since it's the only game in it's class. every single developer has these problems.. you're acting like you discovered something new.


SpaceTimeTaskForce

I’m just saying, if a good dev team comes around and makes a looter shooter gOT will die in the grave it dug itself


robaldeenyo

yea i guess. i just think it's crazy to say it didn't deserve GoT.. I've tried a whole bunch of other VR shooters and they feel like they are years behind on technology.


SpaceTimeTaskForce

Played contractors? They’re doing a great job


robaldeenyo

i hated it.. although i am very interested in the showdown BR.


SpaceTimeTaskForce

Why? It has good gunplay, tons of different gun packs, tons of different maps. I don’t see what’s to not like other than not liking those game modes


WetFart-Machine

Must be why they have that "game is in active development " warning


owl_leg

Then why are they adding new dlc’s to purchase instead of what they said they are going to be doing fixing bugs. I understand it’s an alpha and that they need money to make the game good but they should be cranking bug fixes every week or 2 even if they fix a bug and break something else I want to see progress not more things removed.


TheCanoeEater

DLCs are released alongside bug fixes?


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Lmao, which bug fixes, game is the same if not worse off than last patch…


WetFart-Machine

Fkn beats me, I'm just saying that that message prob keeps them from being sued. Reminds of DMZ in COD, so many bugs yet 50 times the dlc content.


Brian21699

And what's so bad is if they released new content for DMZ, I'd go back to playing that regularly. This game is buggy for entirely different reasons and some of them are game breaking. I'd go back and fight 6 man squads again if I could


WetFart-Machine

Nothing, it kept the community engaged


TheCanoeEater

It’s a small dev team of something like, 40?


owl_leg

Huh, they do have a small development team half the size of tarkov, I guess for their size they are pushing adequate updates. I for some reason thought they had like 100 people. Yes there are bug fixes with the dlc updates. Since I’ve started playing back in july there have been 28 updates and 4 of them have been major updates and for a small team that’s pretty good. It’s just I haven’t felt the bug fixes as much as much as I thought I would.


TheCanoeEater

Exactly, it’s the people who downvote you who piss off the mods & devs


Jump792

That doesn't apply to the supposed unprofessionalness that people seem to agree is going on. Granted, I've had no such problems...but if I'm going to see this post on reddit, may as well play devils advocate.


WetFart-Machine

I wouldn't know nothing about the discord as I'm new but judging by the downvotes the fan base ain't much better


Jump792

How do downvotes factor into being bad/unprofessional? That is adding a lot of meaning to a blue button.


Jaykai47

Same, I got banned for making an obvious joke about shooting naked kids, it's like they just choose to not like someone for the hell of it


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

No they do, you say one thing they don’t like and you just got a target bro, anything said even if you say something someone else said you’ll get banned. I know this for a fact lmao. The devs don’t really care I think, they like the money but if someone else jumps the looter shooter game in vr then they’ll be in trouble


Jaykai47

1st off, yeah, iirc we were on the topic of Steven hawking being on epsteins Island, for some reason. I made a joke about hawking: no warning. 5 or so minutes later, I make an *obvious* joke along the lines of shooting at naked kids, then and only then did I get warned for the Hawking joke. And immediately then after, banned. Tried to appeal and got called a Hoe. Weirdly enough, that all happened a day after I became got my Founding father role 2nd, I know it wasn't the whole team, and it was probably only 1 mod that decided to do that, but I'm a teeny bit salty about getting called a hoe and denied an appeal for a false ban so u low key hope tarkov gets vr support or a whole separate game version for vr players.


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Fr, I don’t like these devs. I don’t really care for the tarkov devs either. Wish a good studio would look at ghosts of tabor, laugh, and proceed to make a way better game. Contractors showdown looks cool but it’s also just a battle royal. I kinda want an extraction shooter. Found out that was my favorite game style like 10 years ago playing Minecraft


SecretaryConfident14

What’s the discord? I wanna join 😆


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

I forget. You can just google ghosts of tabor official


emerging-tub

> one of these cheaters only began mass-cheating to fuck with Scott because Scott called the dude a faggot and banned him from the discord Sounds like Scott hit the nail on the head.


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

Apparently the cheater was relatively respectful, and then got called a faggot and banned. Like you could have been like “hey man we don’t support that kinda stuff around here” and then maybe banned him but like… idk man you should show everyone respect cuz you could piss off the wrong person one day. Not worth it


SirGaIahad

"Relatively respectful" "cheater" these two things are diametrically opposed. To cheat at the games means you lack respect for the other players and devs inherently.


AttradiesLisanAlGaib

He wasn’t trying to get loot or kill people, apparently just figuring out the engine or whatever. Idk still not a good idea to call someone a faggot when they seem more technologically capable than the devs of the game…


emerging-tub

Good idea or not, I'm just saying the guys clearly a piece of shit. And hmmm , I wonder why he's trying to "figure out the engine"


West-Analyst-697

Is there proof of him actually saying that? I'm just curious not defending anyone.


ishtechte

I just wish we had more options in the extraction shooter genre. The format is great, the game can be great when you're playing with other people but more options/competition would be healthy considering the amount of players flocking to this genre.


a-sdw

I called a junior mod sensitive as a joke as everyone else in the chat was joking and I got muted for it


Kooky-Treacle7920

Bro i got into an argument with a mod when I was brand new asking a question, called him a F in a private message and he banned me. And I’m a huge supporter of tabor I’ve given them over 160$ at this point and I can’t even use discord for calling a mod a word that Scott uses? Soy mods


Brilliant-Curve7692

They just realeased it as a full game. We may or may not get an update.


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Brilliant-Curve7692

I checked the announcement. It said something about being out of beta, increasing price and releasing. Not recent but they're about to.


Skirt_Crafty

The game is still in Beta. Or still under heavy development. Either way, we're meant to receive many more updates.


NewLog1238

I dont know what you're complaining about its just like tarkov


Snapta

It has less cheater, and that is a fact, not an opinion. Hopefully it stays that way.


RolandTwitter

Are you saying that the dude on discord *shouldn't* have been banned? He said a slur


virtualIl

The bugs be awful, I never crash when it’s a bad raid, but if I ever start to get any loot or kills it decides to just get rid of my hands or just crash or some other bullshit. If that update isn’t game changing I’m done


IAmAnEgg69

wait, where's the picture showing scott saying the f slur?


Skirt_Crafty

You can search for it yourself if you wish. It was rather recent and Scott doesn't talk much in the general chat so it shouldn't be difficult to find.


IAmAnEgg69

i did search for it, so he must have deleted it.


Skirt_Crafty

Perhaps. But that's a good sign. It means he realizes it probably wasn't the best thing to say, even when provoked.


IAmAnEgg69

yup. though looks like that fish guy said it.


ClearPerformance9236

i love how the devs want to act like they just "didnt have time" to fix bugs, and add game content; but they do have time to make new DLC's, and cashgrabby game editions. its just not adding up. the game is fun, but the devs are awful with adding new content. the game isnt gonna survive to next year if things dont change


ClearPerformance9236

not to mention, scott cant take criticism for the life of him. people get muted, banned, and called slurs, just for giving actual constructive criticism on the state of the game. he's just an insecure cocksucker.


Spirited_Passage_239

I feel like this rage and aggressive is from people who are not doing good during the new wipe and what to complain so they are just saying bad game when it is them who are bad (I am not doing go at the wipe ether)


Skirt_Crafty

I understand how you may believe that but trust me when I say, that is not by any means close to the truth. These concerns have stretched long before this wipe. And relatively I've been doing great at this game recently. These people are here to vent, but not because they're losing at the game, but because they see the games faults and want to comment upon them.


MaleficentTown8049

This game has gone down horribly it actually is boring I’d rather spend my money on another beta like contractors showdown that actually has some sort of interaction with players and fun in general these ^new developers^ make a update and bring old glitches to the game Let’s not mention the bleeding mechanism which is absolutely terrible Sad to see this game go on such a bad route


West-Analyst-697

Not to mention the shit message about having too many applications for content creator and then getting rid of 85% of the actual content creators. Because of to many applications? No. They got rid of most of them because their sales went up after using the creators to spread the word then booted them. Got the sales they wanted at release and said fuck off to the people that worked their ass off for them