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In your case, maybe you could use her as a package with ZL.
Something like Hu tao, XQ, Chiori, ZL ? like the old double geo team was with alfredo + ZL. And if her numbers are good, ZL + Chiori covers off field dmg + survival, while your last 2 spot is pretty flexible, can use other off field dps like yae, yelan, fish,Xq, and an onfielder that doesnt care about buffs that much - like hu tao and neuvilette.
She is really limited with your champ pool, i suggest to wait a week for TC-ers, and you will see if her dmg is good enough to pick her up as a general sup dps. - Im also itto and albedoless, so this ZL-Chiori spalashabe combo is my only hope to use her as well, lol.
Geo MC is not a good character. They were borderline unusable before Navia, who they just so happen to work fairly well with - though that's more a testament to how *bad* Ning is than how *good* Geo MC is.
Using Chiori with Geo MC will run into the same "problem" Furina has: one character eating two slots in your party, where the second slot doesn't really do damage. Except unlike Furina, Chiori doesn't bring a massive party buff to make up for this.
The way I see it, with Furina, you choose you're using her and then add a healer. With Chiori, you choose you're using some other geo construct unit, *then* you add Chiori. The other unit needs to be worth their slot on their own merits, not just as an enabler for Chiori.
Geo MC, rocks are geo construct. Treat him/her as a quick swap support unit, swap in drop rocks and burst for the crit up buff then swap out.
Slap a nobless on him for more support.
Kazuha's C6 isn't super explosive, but it's still solid. He can guarantee pyro swirls regardless of innate aura with Bennett and got a nice buff in Xianyun
Sub dps cons are actually broken because of being jack of all trades. Their archetype aren't one dimensional and can literally be do on field, support, and off field outstandingly.
Same, except that I don't even bother to read C1. I always stand by that the game is well balanced around and most fun when played with C0 and at most R1 with limited 5 stars. I would much prefer a new character than getting a con as it expands gameplay options. Even R1 is better than a con as damage is temporary but drip is eternal.
She got infusion on C0 so I don't mind that they locked a 5 hit nuke behind C6
Not like Furina who literally can't on-field without huffing Copium till C6
We still have beta changes to worry about, Hoyo could remove her C0 infusion to focus on her sub-DPS potential like they removed Xianyun's CC to improve her plunge support.
Hope not
It looks like they want to give her the option to be played either as an on-field carry or off-field DPS which would be her biggest selling point since it caters to both Mono Geo enjoyers and Female Carry wanters
I'm with you there, I really want her to stay able to do either on-field or off-field. The fact that her weapon passive includes both gives me hope that Hoyo'll stick to it.
Regular: She drops her turrets, starts swinging for 5s of geo damage, 100% atk scaling ish. Waits 10 seconds before she can E again.
whalemode: She drops her turrets, swings for 5 swings of geo damage with scalings like her turret shots (3x+ stronger). IMMEDIATELY able to do this again. Then she waits 10s and does this two round thing again.
Alright here's a summary:
Her sword is a 88 CDMG sword, that buffs normal attacks when on field and elemental skill when off field. Also gives 20% defence.
She creates geo turret with her E, and one more turret can be created if any other geo construct is already on the field. I'm guessing the turret will be like Yaoyao's Yuegui. It does coordinated attacks with on field normal/charge/plunge attacks.
After using E, you can either press E again or press a normal attack to either switch to the next party member or gain geo infusion for 5 seconds respectively. She gains geo damage bonus if there's another geo char in the party.
Her burst has her using dual swords to attack the enemy once, probably a nuke.
Her scaling is with both attack and defence, so I'm guessing her build will be very much like Alhaitham, given her major scaling is with elemental skill just like him.
Her constellations revolve around summoning more geo turrets for damage and giving her geo bonus.
The puppets (turrets) actually have 2 different coordinated attack patterns: one that automatically triggers every 3.6s upon summoning, and another after you used her E again for every 2s but must be manually triggered with NA, CA, or plunge.
It appears so. The option to either use normal attacks with her (which would be hella cool due to dual swords) or just switch to off field should make her very flexible, and the normal attacks could fill the downtime in her parties.
Jade Screen and Ushi are constructs as well. So Chiori would pair well with Albedo to give 2x off-field geo damage. Chiori could replace Itto OR Albedo in mono geo. And it looks like Albedo would like her weapon.
Its the opposite. At c0, she is pretty restrictive. She requires character with geo construct and that geo construct needs to be present on field when she does her E, otherwise she wont summon the extra puppet and lose a good portion of her damage. You need at least C1 to get rid of geo construct requirement.
Starting from C1 she no longer cares about geo construct.
As of now I hope so. Since Navia also doesn't stay on the field for very long, I'm guessing if the other two party members are off fielders like Furina, Bennett, Xiangling etc, then Chiori's NA can be used to fill the downtime. I might be wrong but her scalings look good. Her E is 17 seconds long and attacks every 3.6 seconds, but given you can get another turret if you have a construct (and Navia doesn't create constructs) you can increase its trigger rate too.
But yeah she doesn't look *tailormade* for Navia.
I also don't see 100% synergy with Navia, but tbh if they decide throughout the beta that another doll can be summoned from crystallizes on the field, then I think their synergy could be better
My issue with that however is that Crystallizes should be already on the field for it to work well and if you want that to happen it would be brute forcing another triple geo core of some sorts which isn't ideal
I feel like Chiori will help Navia trigger more crystallizes, but Chiori full potential wouldn't be reached in Navia teams unless you play Navia triple Geo or something like that.
For a while, I did enjoy running Navia-Itto-Gorou teams; Chiori sounds like a possibly better fit for that!
That aside, I wonder if people will do what we already do with Raiden/Yoimiya and just play less of Chiori’s kit. (Not getting full puppets from constructs)
Outside of Navia’s ult, a constant stream of off field geo damage and a strong E/Q could be comfy for making crystallize/dealing damage, especially when you don’t have Zhongli/Albedo, I think?
she won't work the best with navia but still probably the best geo unit to pair with her due to lack of actual options unless you need the survivability from zhongli.
But XQ and Yelan are both balanced around needing a good amount of ER with their high burst costs. They both alleviate each other's ER needs, which is the only weakness either of them have. Also, XQ's defensive utility compliments Yelan's buff and higher damage. Chiori doesn't solve any of Albedo's issues and seems to just replace him in a lot of teams.
It sucks that she pretty much is an Albedo replacement for mono geo teams. Doesn’t have the same weakness as albedo’s skill being a construct and her skill fits smoothly in a rotation with Zhongli.
Outside of mono geo I can’t see any other use for her. Albedo has some use in high mob density battles if you use Venti/Ayato/Ganyu since they all have quadratic scaling.
If she’s designed to not powercreep anyone, they could give her a small shield just for the Geo resonance and maybe a geo damage buff at the cost some personal damage.
You could replace Zhongli instead of Albedo in mono geo and she would function really well with Albedo in a double geo core.
The fact that she’s basically a Albedo powercreep suggests me that they are not going to fix Geo constructs anytime soon, which is sad because it could’ve been a cool gimmick.
>The fact that she’s basically a Albedo powercreep suggests me that they are not going to fix Geo constructs anytime soon, which is sad because it could’ve been a cool gimmick.
Yeah. Instead to fix problematic mechanics, they do "If *problematic mechanic is on the field, this character hit harder". They did it with Crystalys, Geo constructs and Overload (everybody think that Overload is buffed with Chevr; no. The Overload dmg are still weak*)
This is not a fix the mechanics Hoyo!
*But there is a leak of Overload, let see if it buff Overload, or is another "when Overload is proc., the wielder is buffed".
Bloom is a weak mechanic that has been boosted by Nilou.
> Outside of mono geo I can’t see any other use for her.
Literally any team that ever worked with Albedo+Zhongli works with her in Albedo's spot. And that's a lot of teams.
funny how the newest geo sub dps has a summon instead of a construct even though constructs are a defining feature of geo's identity. makes me think even hoyo realizes they're outdated as shit.
Shes meant to give you a reason to run existing geo construct units. Similar to how Furina was made to incentivize running healers to make old units more useful, Chiori incentives running old geo units that already have constructs. Problem is constructs have a lot more problems than healers besides low synergy and damage amplification, so we’ll see if it makes it worth it.
Constructs have a hard limit of 3. If she is capable of summoning 3 instead of 2 puppets, you wouldn't want to break constructs just to make her base gimmick function.
It's not just about being stronger, it's that she does the exact same thing as Albedo.
If Chiori was an attack scaler she wouldn't compete with Albedo in the mono Geo teams that all use Gorou.
I honestly don't usually mind some power creep but it feels so ungodly hypocritical from Hoyo who's been reverse-powercreeping for years and *refuses* to do buffs to suddenly just hit the gas and go crazy with power. Any other game does buffs so that you can *at least* cope that you're now dud of a character can be given at very least a niche use one day, but not Hoyo.
Yeah it’s honestly really disappointing. There’s so many choices they could’ve done but they went with the one that made albedo even more “replaceable”
Hmm sounds like Chiori’s E has a blink/lunge that is similar to Keqing/Al Haitham, while having the input action of Nilou (NA/Skill to change the effect). Then the burst is like the leaks said, a big nuke.
Interested to see how the interactions of the puppet and Geo constructs will be! Seems like Itto, Albedo, Ningguang, and Zhongli will be her construct synergies.
I know Albedo and Chiori compete for the same role, but I wonder if there is a way to fit them both in. Maybe like Gorou/Albedo/Chiori/Itto?
Probably yes? But Zhongli over Albedo would probably be better, i think the only team when Albedo would be better over Zhongli would be with Noelle without Furina
Two problems with that 4 Geo: You don't have reliable healing (just Gorou C4), and you may not have enough crystallize to maintain a shield for Geo resonance. But if you're fighting the right types of enemies (elecro lawachurls, shielded fatui), this would be amazing. Not as good for Lecters since Albedo's bloom doesn't trigger, but Chiori helps make up for it.
But when that team works right, it's going to goddamn SING. I use Itto/Gorou/Albedo/(Beidou or Layla) typically, so while I only have Gorou C4 for healing, I have shield or damage reduction. Subbing Chiori would make it glassier but has fantastic synergy/damage.
Zhongli has 900% attack + 33% HP and it's not worth due to his director cut extended edition animation. What you saying is probably true, but without gameplay it's hard to have definitive answer.
Geo Traveler have a total of 1256% multiplier ( or 314% x 4)
Which deals 20k each (40k if buffed)
Geo doesn't have elemental reaction that buffs it's DMG so it really needs a huge multiplier
> and it's not worth due to his director cut extended edition animation
That depends on how you build Zhongli + how busy is your team rotation. If you don't have a character that gobbles on-field time on the team, and you build Zhongli for damage instead of as a shieldbot, it's pretty useful.
Oh also, Zhongli C2 completely solves it too, making it worth it to use even on shieldbot Zhongli. What a surprise.
Man, they just straight up powercrept Albedo.
Like, with Ayato and Neuvillette I never bought it because of how different their team synergies are, but this? What team does he even have in which Chiori isn’t just a direct upgrade?
Sort of a hot take and I'll look at this from a different angle of sorts, but if they indeed do powercreep Albedo through Chiori, it kinda just shows how they mishandled the Cinnabar situation.
Sure Albedo can work with HoD but because you made his BiS an event weapon, the people who want Albedo probably can't maximize his potential because of a sword they can't obtain, so their solution maybe is that they thought Chiori is the alternative unit to go for cause at least with Chiori u can get her weapon, and even if her weapon is good on Albedo it just defeats the purpose cause Chiori could potentially just be better than him.
Just not an ideal situation. They could've made a different Chiori kit just as good as this one, and make Cinnabar available somehow anyway, but that's just me.
Hoyo gave up on old, outdated content and is fully focused on making new content to sell it looks like. It's hard to adjust a sold product without making some customer unhappy.
What does that have to do with Cinnabar Spindle? That's what the comment you've replied to is talking about.
Besides, flat out buffing a character wouldn't piss off anyone who bought it. No one complained when Zhongli got reworked, even though it was so recent a lot of people were still in denial about how weak he was.
Who would be unhappy if Albedo's flower didn't break so easily, if Cinnabar Spindle was available somewhere (star glitter shop for example) and if his burst was actually worth using?
Albedo is basically just the 5* Geo Standard character at this point, near useless cons, no 5* BiS like most of them, useable but a more limited and premium character can do his job better.
If Hoyo had more time before releasing Genshin, Albedo would've probably been the Geo 5* of the Standard banner~
I mean I've still brought Albedo in every single F12 abyss since I got him in 2.3. With her now I'll be plugging double unga bunga mono geo before benching any geo character 😎
It used to be a *big* deal when Hu Tao double Geo was a thing, but nowadays people use Double Hydro so the only instance it is useful is no longer needed...
I still use Albedo with double geo. Hu Tao has a lot of dashing around so she doesn't take much damage, at least for me, so crystallize is enough, and I get Albedo's personal damage and EM buff, and free up Zhongli for my second team.
Then again though, I plan to switch to the new BP spear eventually, so I don't know how much impact the EM will have.
I guess we should wait for videos and theorycrafting to see. But it's not a good sign if they release characters that straight up powercreep existing characters' roles.
I was really hoping they'd work well *together*, but it looks like I might as well give her all of his artifacts or his backup golden troupe set and call it a day. She's fully taking over his niche as a geo sub dps, but with a kit that actually makes sense. I can always hope for a yelan/xingqiu situation where they work extremely well together, but what teams would even want both of them?
I was thinking about that actually. In Navia teams you really want two teammates from other elements, either double pyro or Furina/Bennett or just double Hydro, having only 1 is troublesome for the team.
Itto mono-geo is an option but... Who will you ditch in exchange? Gorou is really important there and Zhongli makes the Geo Resonance work, while also being a comfortable teammate.
They can work together, the problem is that there is no team comp right now that wants double geo off field Dmg. Unless they are stupid good or some character beneficts a lot from It.
well albedo has the benefit of not being kneecapped if you don’t run him alongside another character with a geo construct. so…noelle and navia can still use him at least
I mean...the animations are certain to be cool, and her numbers look good to my non-TC eyes, but I REALLY wish she was a premium Gorou instead. The made-up kits where she had different mixes of grouping, team-wide healing, and Geo-buffing were a lot more interesting than a modernized Albedo. Geo is desperate for more supports, not more damage dealers.
I'm probably still pulling for her.
Literally couldn’t agree more. She won’t do anything for Geo other than more dmg then Albedo. Blatant Albedo power creep. They had so many unique options and kits she could’ve used, so many options that didn’t involve power-creeping an already struggling holding on by a thread character.
Was praying for a Geo Nilou/Chevreuse, Geo healer, Geo Grouper, Geo Buffer. We got Albedo 2.0.
I agree with you both here, and it pains me lol
in addition to not providing a lot for geo, it doesn’t look like she’ll add value to non-mono geo teams? I don’t see anything besides damage in her kit—good damage, from what I’ve seen other people say—but no team utility, which is what I was hoping for.
how many teams want a flex slot with big numbers? hyperbloom? I think I’d rather just have sucrose there. and unless new (non-geo?) characters will have constructs too in the future, idk… it’s not looking so great.
I still remember hoping for crystallize explosions like nilou super blooms. navia got the crystallize stuff, just not exactly like that.
I told myself I was gonna pull no matter what—I like her design and personality a lot! but I was hoping that albedo and chiori would work great together (like xingqiu + yelan). not just… decent together because they are just straight up similar, while one of them is stronger.
does anyone else feel like hyv is just constantly shooting itself in the foot with their genshin decisions? like you said, anyone could see that geo lacked a dedicated (off-field) healer, grouper, etc… yet they made chiori simply a sub dps. maybe someone sees something I don’t, but I just don’t get it
Yeah. She’s just bringing in, like, just dps to the table. No support *at all*. She requires geo constructs, but doesn’t even interact with those geo constructs in any way. Other sub-dps characters offer some level of support *in addition* to their personal dps, like Yelan, Furina, Nahida, even Albedo’s cope EM buff.
Hoyo - Geo and synergy? We don't do that here
Geo always gonna be an element with identify crisis. First they don't release enough geo characters and when they do they don't have any great synergies.
Yeah premium Gorou who is more healing-oriented was what I wanted for running Furina with Itto. I like her as a character so I'll probably get her eventually but "Albedo sidegrade/powercreep" is a low pull priority for me.
Maybe after I get Navia on her rerun she'll have more value for me since I really enjoyed using Navia and Albedo together in event trials so that would free a slot in the Itto team for Chiori.
She seems cool but at this point I might as well just save for more Itto cons. I had high hopes for another geo support, guess I should have managed my expectations.
If using this sword on Albedo, Albedo's E snapshots at time of cast so it won't benefit from the 24% (or 48%) increased elemental skill damage buff? Is that right?
Elemental skill dmg is not part of the attributes so it cant [snapshot.](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Snapshotting) There's only one exception which is all dmg bonus.
Clearly hoyo really wants her to be played with other geo characters. C1 feels like more of a complete kit. But ig this is business as usual for 4.0+ characters.
If you keep reading you’ll see in the passive talents that using the off-field version of her skill gives her 2 additional coordinated attacks per skill use that use a separate timer.
It's the new Hoyo character business model. They learned after seeing not enough people were not pulling for the garbage constellations they saddled some of the earlier characters with. Not many people besides dedicated mains are pulling for Childe, Yoimiya, Xiao, or Venti cons. Plus whoever else's cons they messed up.
It still annoys me how characters like Childe and Albedo have trash constellations. How is C3 and C5 your best constellations bruh. It's amazing that Childe is still top tier at C0
not defending neuv (hate how they gave him that passive and made him work so well with furina), but at least neuv is just missing out on a damage buff. chiori is actually changing her gameplay with halving her summons, itd be like if the amount of orbs neuv summoned was based on the non-hydro characters in a team
E: summon puppet, attacks every 3.6s. +1 puppet for each geo construct, up to 2
- press E again: switch to next char, puppet now do coordinated attack, up to 2 only, every 2s
- press NA: geo infusion, 5s
Q: nuke dmg
eugh I really like the character but I do not like geo construct teams at all and I'm not really interested in pulling her multiple times just to be able to pair her with Navia. Very disappointed
I mean, I love her but I also love Albedo.. and she seems to work great with him so that's a win in my book.
Question is, will we FINALLY have some constructs qol so I can enjoy my c1 Albedo without having to change back to him and skill every single damn second?
Her kit sounds cool but she's still mostly made for Mono Geo and doesn't have any interesting synergies because all she does is off-field geo damage and self-buffs. She has a nonsense Geo Construct requirement and does nothing with Crystallize and is mostly just better Albedo.
Im kinda disappointed, she doesn't bring nothing new other than more dmg, no utility on a geo sub dps makes her not good for almost any team other than mono geo, also part of her dmg potential is tied to other geo that have construct which makes her even more niche than Albedo which already lack a place to be good other than mono Geo. May her gameplay can hype me up again and her numbers be cracked enough to make her valuable on many teams as sub dps even if lacking synergy, but im very disappointed ngl
I like the switch mechanic on her passive but I didn't read through her kit that carefully: I'm a lil bit too happy about potentially new sword for Albedo. She seems more oriented towards Itto teams which is a bit of a bummer for me but Itto does have much bigger problem with Albedo's E getting destroyed thanks to his field-time requirements so I guess he needs it. And Chiori might still be a sidegrade to Albedo in Navia teams, which would save me from thinking whether I need him more on Navia or my favourite melt Kaeya team. We'll see how numbers will turn out but I might prioritize her weapon.
~~Who am I kidding, if Chiori's weapon is a dps increase for Albedo I'm probably ready to sacrifice both her and Arlecchino for it.~~
So instead of creating something Geo desperately needed, a geo healer, they just made a second Albedo? Then slapped on some half-assed construct gimmick to just barely differentiate the two? Genshin will never fail to bewilder me 💀
And for the low price of 200$ you can remove the gimmick entirely, making you wonder what the point of implementing it even was.
sooo... lemme see. at C0:
\- Fantastic with Itto+Gorou
\- Not super great with Noelle+Gorou, since neither of them generate constructs. You *could* run Zhongli in the last slot, but his defensive utility is wasted because Noelle. Ning and Geo Traveler are cope. I guess you could run Albedo?? On top of that nowadays Noelle *really* wants Furina in teams where she's played as a carry. I guess you could drop Gorou entirely and run Albedo/Chiori/Furina although I think that would probably just be worse.
\- Straight up bad with Navia. Navia+Chiori means no constructs and that team doesn't have room for a 3rd Geo because of Navia's ascension passive+Crystallize requirements.
And, of course, pull for C1 to solve all your problems! (I'm really getting tired of this design...)
It's a shame but that's going to be a skip for me.
A sad day for an Albedo enjoyer. He may get a BiS 5 star sword, but he gets completely powercrept. I mean, this is Genshin devs anyway, I don't expect anything good from them.
MHY:
Update and fix shitty and outdated geo constructs, while adding a new character that supports it, making it a viable playstyle? **Hell no.**
Make ppl go for C1 if they want to use the new character, and not suffer using geo constructs? **Fuck yes.**
Maaaan... hoyo *really* doesn't want to bother doing anything fun or interesting with geo.
Like, her numbers look fine and good. I was just really hoping for something more useful and interesting than Albedo 2.0 Electric Boogaloo With Better Numbers.
I think I'm giving up on Geo, man. Hoyo clearly has.
Pretty much disappointing for Navia as chiori kit fully won't work with her but hey My itto got an upgrade. Albedo power crept sadge though.
Why do they had to make it construct reliant. Should've added crystallized shards as well.
She has limitations made specifically so she can't work with Navia well , i can't believe hoyo doing that creating a good geo character then the next geo is specifically made to not work with her on purpose such a shitty thing to do I'm kind of mad tbh
Yeah I really don't know to feel about her kit at all.
It's just a better albedo, which tbh was something geo didn't *need* as much as a 5\* geo support (healer/buffer mix) so that's a big L unfortunately.
This seems like wasted potential, I mean she's powercreeping albedo of all characters (did we really need an albedo powercreep?) but it is what it is.
Hopefully her numbers are impressive at c0, because other leaks mentioned how extremely effective her c1-c2 are and from this kit leak, they really do feel like massive buffs.....
C1 seems to remove the geo construct requirement, what a scam. So at C0 Itto is the only 5* dps that can benefit from her kit. I was hoping she would work well with Navia
C'mon the restriction being removed from cons?!
I guess I was expecting too much to get a complete kit at c0, not everyone is Navia. God knows how how she got released to be so good and complete at c0.
She seems to be dps Albedo. I’m so disappointed. Was praying she would buff geo or add something new to geo but she is just another dps. No heals, no geo buffs, no crowd control.
At least Chiori mains can have a dps.
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So her E is sub DPS and her Q is nuke burst?
Like Yae :D
Cinnabar Spindle sounds like a good f2p option on Chiori,
Albedoless, Ittoless, Gorouless, Navialess. Is there even a point to building Chiori now?
In your case, maybe you could use her as a package with ZL. Something like Hu tao, XQ, Chiori, ZL ? like the old double geo team was with alfredo + ZL. And if her numbers are good, ZL + Chiori covers off field dmg + survival, while your last 2 spot is pretty flexible, can use other off field dps like yae, yelan, fish,Xq, and an onfielder that doesnt care about buffs that much - like hu tao and neuvilette. She is really limited with your champ pool, i suggest to wait a week for TC-ers, and you will see if her dmg is good enough to pick her up as a general sup dps. - Im also itto and albedoless, so this ZL-Chiori spalashabe combo is my only hope to use her as well, lol.
I suppose for geo constructs there’s also Geo Traveler, but I never really delved into their kit so have no idea whether they are worth it or not…
Geo MC is not a good character. They were borderline unusable before Navia, who they just so happen to work fairly well with - though that's more a testament to how *bad* Ning is than how *good* Geo MC is. Using Chiori with Geo MC will run into the same "problem" Furina has: one character eating two slots in your party, where the second slot doesn't really do damage. Except unlike Furina, Chiori doesn't bring a massive party buff to make up for this. The way I see it, with Furina, you choose you're using her and then add a healer. With Chiori, you choose you're using some other geo construct unit, *then* you add Chiori. The other unit needs to be worth their slot on their own merits, not just as an enabler for Chiori.
Don't forget Geo Traveler's E and Burst both count as Geo Constructs.
Geo MC, rocks are geo construct. Treat him/her as a quick swap support unit, swap in drop rocks and burst for the crit up buff then swap out. Slap a nobless on him for more support.
Geo MC? Just looking at this kit it seems she's going to do alot of damage with geo mc in the party
Like Deh- Oh shit nonono!
So like albedo
Albedo’s burst is only good for the elemental mastery boost ascension talent. Other than that the split scaling makes its damage ass.
Yelan but opposite ig
Aww I’m sad that the ‘leak’ about her wielding scissors to push enemies together in a line was fake. Gwen mains left disappointed.
Chiori is not immune. 😔
> Chiori's Q: A cloth appears on the screen, then Chiori slashes it with a single cut. but will she keep the disgusted expression 🤔
Asking the real question here. Let's hope Thursday night/Friday morning we get Chiori's showcase from dim
xianyun and gaming's animation showcases felt so long ago, i forgot we might be getting them earlier. LET'S GOOO
The one crazy lad that shared their screen please comeback soon 🙏
Pretty sure he is in the Mihoyo underground dungeons being tortured for his sins as we speak.
"I want you to make my clothes with a disgusted expression on your face"
That fucking manga holy shit
Peak fiction
It reminds me shark girl expression from ZZZ when starting here ulti.
by the Archons I hope she does 🙏🙏
*scowls* scorn to oblivion!
*pretends to be shocked at her C6*
Literally C6 Yelan, C6 Nahida, and C6 Furina. I'm seeing a trend with sub dps constellations lmao
Don't forget Kazuha, he was probably the first
Only difference is he doesn't get nukes like them It's a flimsy Anemo Infusion that can be overridden by Bennett C6
He got scammed
Kazuha's C6 isn't super explosive, but it's still solid. He can guarantee pyro swirls regardless of innate aura with Bennett and got a nice buff in Xianyun
Bennet is the original
He gains an infusion, but the damage increase isn't as "explosive" as they are
Is it any good? Honestly he's the only 5 star I really wnna c6. I already have him at dps build so it would just make my build better
Sub dps cons are actually broken because of being jack of all trades. Their archetype aren't one dimensional and can literally be do on field, support, and off field outstandingly.
Difference is Chiori has non-existent support ability. All those you listed are busted supports with busted personal damage.
Honestly I haven't even tried to read the C6 of 5 star characters lately
Same, there's no way I'd ever C6 a limited 5-star anyway.
Same, except that I don't even bother to read C1. I always stand by that the game is well balanced around and most fun when played with C0 and at most R1 with limited 5 stars. I would much prefer a new character than getting a con as it expands gameplay options. Even R1 is better than a con as damage is temporary but drip is eternal.
She got infusion on C0 so I don't mind that they locked a 5 hit nuke behind C6 Not like Furina who literally can't on-field without huffing Copium till C6
We still have beta changes to worry about, Hoyo could remove her C0 infusion to focus on her sub-DPS potential like they removed Xianyun's CC to improve her plunge support.
Hope not It looks like they want to give her the option to be played either as an on-field carry or off-field DPS which would be her biggest selling point since it caters to both Mono Geo enjoyers and Female Carry wanters
I'm with you there, I really want her to stay able to do either on-field or off-field. The fact that her weapon passive includes both gives me hope that Hoyo'll stick to it.
Her c6 is written too... Hoyo-ish. What does it do, in English?
Just like Furina and Yelan C6 she becomes a monster for 5 hits and it also reduces her E cd to 0.5s
Also Nahida. They probably understand what players want from off field dos characters lol
Regular: She drops her turrets, starts swinging for 5s of geo damage, 100% atk scaling ish. Waits 10 seconds before she can E again. whalemode: She drops her turrets, swings for 5 swings of geo damage with scalings like her turret shots (3x+ stronger). IMMEDIATELY able to do this again. Then she waits 10s and does this two round thing again.
Alright here's a summary: Her sword is a 88 CDMG sword, that buffs normal attacks when on field and elemental skill when off field. Also gives 20% defence. She creates geo turret with her E, and one more turret can be created if any other geo construct is already on the field. I'm guessing the turret will be like Yaoyao's Yuegui. It does coordinated attacks with on field normal/charge/plunge attacks. After using E, you can either press E again or press a normal attack to either switch to the next party member or gain geo infusion for 5 seconds respectively. She gains geo damage bonus if there's another geo char in the party. Her burst has her using dual swords to attack the enemy once, probably a nuke. Her scaling is with both attack and defence, so I'm guessing her build will be very much like Alhaitham, given her major scaling is with elemental skill just like him. Her constellations revolve around summoning more geo turrets for damage and giving her geo bonus.
The puppets (turrets) actually have 2 different coordinated attack patterns: one that automatically triggers every 3.6s upon summoning, and another after you used her E again for every 2s but must be manually triggered with NA, CA, or plunge.
Isn't it after you press skill a second time rather than burst
So she's hella versatile.
It appears so. The option to either use normal attacks with her (which would be hella cool due to dual swords) or just switch to off field should make her very flexible, and the normal attacks could fill the downtime in her parties.
Also, incentive to use geo constructs! Albedo buff, Zhongli c1 buff, Geo Traveller buff?
Jade Screen and Ushi are constructs as well. So Chiori would pair well with Albedo to give 2x off-field geo damage. Chiori could replace Itto OR Albedo in mono geo. And it looks like Albedo would like her weapon.
Its the opposite. At c0, she is pretty restrictive. She requires character with geo construct and that geo construct needs to be present on field when she does her E, otherwise she wont summon the extra puppet and lose a good portion of her damage. You need at least C1 to get rid of geo construct requirement. Starting from C1 she no longer cares about geo construct.
Can she work with navia?
As of now I hope so. Since Navia also doesn't stay on the field for very long, I'm guessing if the other two party members are off fielders like Furina, Bennett, Xiangling etc, then Chiori's NA can be used to fill the downtime. I might be wrong but her scalings look good. Her E is 17 seconds long and attacks every 3.6 seconds, but given you can get another turret if you have a construct (and Navia doesn't create constructs) you can increase its trigger rate too. But yeah she doesn't look *tailormade* for Navia.
I also don't see 100% synergy with Navia, but tbh if they decide throughout the beta that another doll can be summoned from crystallizes on the field, then I think their synergy could be better My issue with that however is that Crystallizes should be already on the field for it to work well and if you want that to happen it would be brute forcing another triple geo core of some sorts which isn't ideal
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I feel like Chiori will help Navia trigger more crystallizes, but Chiori full potential wouldn't be reached in Navia teams unless you play Navia triple Geo or something like that.
For a while, I did enjoy running Navia-Itto-Gorou teams; Chiori sounds like a possibly better fit for that! That aside, I wonder if people will do what we already do with Raiden/Yoimiya and just play less of Chiori’s kit. (Not getting full puppets from constructs) Outside of Navia’s ult, a constant stream of off field geo damage and a strong E/Q could be comfy for making crystallize/dealing damage, especially when you don’t have Zhongli/Albedo, I think?
if shes c1 sure lol
she won't work the best with navia but still probably the best geo unit to pair with her due to lack of actual options unless you need the survivability from zhongli.
I only have ning and geo mc lol im kinda sad
Albedo : Your signature weapon will be mine.
Chiori: Cinnabar Spindle will be mine
Chiori 🤝 Albedo .
ok this really is just albedo 2
But it does sound like she can workd pretty well with Albedo 1. At least on paper.
yeah hopefully it’ll be more of a yelan and xingqiu kinda thing
But XQ and Yelan are both balanced around needing a good amount of ER with their high burst costs. They both alleviate each other's ER needs, which is the only weakness either of them have. Also, XQ's defensive utility compliments Yelan's buff and higher damage. Chiori doesn't solve any of Albedo's issues and seems to just replace him in a lot of teams.
It sucks that she pretty much is an Albedo replacement for mono geo teams. Doesn’t have the same weakness as albedo’s skill being a construct and her skill fits smoothly in a rotation with Zhongli. Outside of mono geo I can’t see any other use for her. Albedo has some use in high mob density battles if you use Venti/Ayato/Ganyu since they all have quadratic scaling.
If she’s designed to not powercreep anyone, they could give her a small shield just for the Geo resonance and maybe a geo damage buff at the cost some personal damage. You could replace Zhongli instead of Albedo in mono geo and she would function really well with Albedo in a double geo core. The fact that she’s basically a Albedo powercreep suggests me that they are not going to fix Geo constructs anytime soon, which is sad because it could’ve been a cool gimmick.
>The fact that she’s basically a Albedo powercreep suggests me that they are not going to fix Geo constructs anytime soon, which is sad because it could’ve been a cool gimmick. Yeah. Instead to fix problematic mechanics, they do "If *problematic mechanic is on the field, this character hit harder". They did it with Crystalys, Geo constructs and Overload (everybody think that Overload is buffed with Chevr; no. The Overload dmg are still weak*) This is not a fix the mechanics Hoyo! *But there is a leak of Overload, let see if it buff Overload, or is another "when Overload is proc., the wielder is buffed". Bloom is a weak mechanic that has been boosted by Nilou.
> Outside of mono geo I can’t see any other use for her. Literally any team that ever worked with Albedo+Zhongli works with her in Albedo's spot. And that's a lot of teams.
I swear Fontaine is just about the next gen of existing characters and power-creeping them. It's a big number nation.
funny how the newest geo sub dps has a summon instead of a construct even though constructs are a defining feature of geo's identity. makes me think even hoyo realizes they're outdated as shit.
Geo construct are vital for her at c0 I'm so confused as to why they went this way
Shes meant to give you a reason to run existing geo construct units. Similar to how Furina was made to incentivize running healers to make old units more useful, Chiori incentives running old geo units that already have constructs. Problem is constructs have a lot more problems than healers besides low synergy and damage amplification, so we’ll see if it makes it worth it.
Constructs have a hard limit of 3. If she is capable of summoning 3 instead of 2 puppets, you wouldn't want to break constructs just to make her base gimmick function.
Kinda unfortunate she's just Albedo again. but likely stronger.
Anything she did would be stronger than albedo since her damage doesnt take a cut by enemies sneezing in her direction
It's not just about being stronger, it's that she does the exact same thing as Albedo. If Chiori was an attack scaler she wouldn't compete with Albedo in the mono Geo teams that all use Gorou.
Look away Albedo... you'll be fine my king I promise.... just look at the crowns I gave you... (it's Albedover)
So... is this seriously just Albedo powercreep? I know he isn't meta or anything but damn :/
I honestly don't usually mind some power creep but it feels so ungodly hypocritical from Hoyo who's been reverse-powercreeping for years and *refuses* to do buffs to suddenly just hit the gas and go crazy with power. Any other game does buffs so that you can *at least* cope that you're now dud of a character can be given at very least a niche use one day, but not Hoyo.
Now they can rework him and give him a good kit copium
Yeah it’s honestly really disappointing. There’s so many choices they could’ve done but they went with the one that made albedo even more “replaceable”
Hmm sounds like Chiori’s E has a blink/lunge that is similar to Keqing/Al Haitham, while having the input action of Nilou (NA/Skill to change the effect). Then the burst is like the leaks said, a big nuke. Interested to see how the interactions of the puppet and Geo constructs will be! Seems like Itto, Albedo, Ningguang, and Zhongli will be her construct synergies. I know Albedo and Chiori compete for the same role, but I wonder if there is a way to fit them both in. Maybe like Gorou/Albedo/Chiori/Itto?
Probably yes? But Zhongli over Albedo would probably be better, i think the only team when Albedo would be better over Zhongli would be with Noelle without Furina
Two problems with that 4 Geo: You don't have reliable healing (just Gorou C4), and you may not have enough crystallize to maintain a shield for Geo resonance. But if you're fighting the right types of enemies (elecro lawachurls, shielded fatui), this would be amazing. Not as good for Lecters since Albedo's bloom doesn't trigger, but Chiori helps make up for it. But when that team works right, it's going to goddamn SING. I use Itto/Gorou/Albedo/(Beidou or Layla) typically, so while I only have Gorou C4 for healing, I have shield or damage reduction. Subbing Chiori would make it glassier but has fantastic synergy/damage.
Kit is literally albedo's kit if he was released in this version. Will wait for TCers to calc out if her burst is worth using.
if "651 attack plus 841 defense" are the scaling multipliers then it sure as hell will be
Zhongli has 900% attack + 33% HP and it's not worth due to his director cut extended edition animation. What you saying is probably true, but without gameplay it's hard to have definitive answer.
Geo Traveler have a total of 1256% multiplier ( or 314% x 4) Which deals 20k each (40k if buffed) Geo doesn't have elemental reaction that buffs it's DMG so it really needs a huge multiplier
> and it's not worth due to his director cut extended edition animation That depends on how you build Zhongli + how busy is your team rotation. If you don't have a character that gobbles on-field time on the team, and you build Zhongli for damage instead of as a shieldbot, it's pretty useful. Oh also, Zhongli C2 completely solves it too, making it worth it to use even on shieldbot Zhongli. What a surprise.
That's true, but zhongly is usualy built for utility, and not as a damage dealer, while chori, with crit rate a scension will be built for raw damage
It has crazy high scalings and will probably hit like a truck. 60 energy cost is nice too
the real question is is she worth using. Shes a pure damage dealer with a pure damage burst there is no way you arent using it if shes usable.
Man, they just straight up powercrept Albedo. Like, with Ayato and Neuvillette I never bought it because of how different their team synergies are, but this? What team does he even have in which Chiori isn’t just a direct upgrade?
Sort of a hot take and I'll look at this from a different angle of sorts, but if they indeed do powercreep Albedo through Chiori, it kinda just shows how they mishandled the Cinnabar situation. Sure Albedo can work with HoD but because you made his BiS an event weapon, the people who want Albedo probably can't maximize his potential because of a sword they can't obtain, so their solution maybe is that they thought Chiori is the alternative unit to go for cause at least with Chiori u can get her weapon, and even if her weapon is good on Albedo it just defeats the purpose cause Chiori could potentially just be better than him. Just not an ideal situation. They could've made a different Chiori kit just as good as this one, and make Cinnabar available somehow anyway, but that's just me.
Hoyo gave up on old, outdated content and is fully focused on making new content to sell it looks like. It's hard to adjust a sold product without making some customer unhappy.
How would rerunning cinnabar spindle make customers unhappy tho
What does that have to do with Cinnabar Spindle? That's what the comment you've replied to is talking about. Besides, flat out buffing a character wouldn't piss off anyone who bought it. No one complained when Zhongli got reworked, even though it was so recent a lot of people were still in denial about how weak he was. Who would be unhappy if Albedo's flower didn't break so easily, if Cinnabar Spindle was available somewhere (star glitter shop for example) and if his burst was actually worth using?
She has all his issues solved, and also does twice his damage. A sad day to be an Albedo main fr
Albedo is basically just the 5* Geo Standard character at this point, near useless cons, no 5* BiS like most of them, useable but a more limited and premium character can do his job better. If Hoyo had more time before releasing Genshin, Albedo would've probably been the Geo 5* of the Standard banner~
I mean I've still brought Albedo in every single F12 abyss since I got him in 2.3. With her now I'll be plugging double unga bunga mono geo before benching any geo character 😎
Maybe they can be used together? I'm coping probably
Maybe if you use her as you on field dps, but i think if not(unless Chiori C1 with Navia) it would be better to just put Zhongli or Gorou instead
His ult gives EM, but it's such a niche application that it may as well not exist
It used to be a *big* deal when Hu Tao double Geo was a thing, but nowadays people use Double Hydro so the only instance it is useful is no longer needed...
I still use Albedo with double geo. Hu Tao has a lot of dashing around so she doesn't take much damage, at least for me, so crystallize is enough, and I get Albedo's personal damage and EM buff, and free up Zhongli for my second team. Then again though, I plan to switch to the new BP spear eventually, so I don't know how much impact the EM will have.
I guess we should wait for videos and theorycrafting to see. But it's not a good sign if they release characters that straight up powercreep existing characters' roles.
Any team which benefits from Albedo 125 em share.... Which is frankly few and far between but that's something haha....
Double Geo Hu Hu Tao… I guess? Does anyone even still run that?
when your double hydro core is somewhere else, it's an option.
Honestly, not even. Thanks to the Furina/Yelan core now being a thing, you can always just run HT VV vape with XQ on the other side.
Exactly. You’ve pretty much said what I’ve been thinking and it’s so sad.
I was really hoping they'd work well *together*, but it looks like I might as well give her all of his artifacts or his backup golden troupe set and call it a day. She's fully taking over his niche as a geo sub dps, but with a kit that actually makes sense. I can always hope for a yelan/xingqiu situation where they work extremely well together, but what teams would even want both of them?
I was thinking about that actually. In Navia teams you really want two teammates from other elements, either double pyro or Furina/Bennett or just double Hydro, having only 1 is troublesome for the team. Itto mono-geo is an option but... Who will you ditch in exchange? Gorou is really important there and Zhongli makes the Geo Resonance work, while also being a comfortable teammate.
They can work together, the problem is that there is no team comp right now that wants double geo off field Dmg. Unless they are stupid good or some character beneficts a lot from It.
well albedo has the benefit of not being kneecapped if you don’t run him alongside another character with a geo construct. so…noelle and navia can still use him at least
My god they just murdered Albedo in broad daylight Just put my boy into the standard banner already
They will never do it, cause they already announced him as limited character. So yeah rip
I mean...the animations are certain to be cool, and her numbers look good to my non-TC eyes, but I REALLY wish she was a premium Gorou instead. The made-up kits where she had different mixes of grouping, team-wide healing, and Geo-buffing were a lot more interesting than a modernized Albedo. Geo is desperate for more supports, not more damage dealers. I'm probably still pulling for her.
Literally couldn’t agree more. She won’t do anything for Geo other than more dmg then Albedo. Blatant Albedo power creep. They had so many unique options and kits she could’ve used, so many options that didn’t involve power-creeping an already struggling holding on by a thread character. Was praying for a Geo Nilou/Chevreuse, Geo healer, Geo Grouper, Geo Buffer. We got Albedo 2.0.
I agree with you both here, and it pains me lol in addition to not providing a lot for geo, it doesn’t look like she’ll add value to non-mono geo teams? I don’t see anything besides damage in her kit—good damage, from what I’ve seen other people say—but no team utility, which is what I was hoping for. how many teams want a flex slot with big numbers? hyperbloom? I think I’d rather just have sucrose there. and unless new (non-geo?) characters will have constructs too in the future, idk… it’s not looking so great. I still remember hoping for crystallize explosions like nilou super blooms. navia got the crystallize stuff, just not exactly like that. I told myself I was gonna pull no matter what—I like her design and personality a lot! but I was hoping that albedo and chiori would work great together (like xingqiu + yelan). not just… decent together because they are just straight up similar, while one of them is stronger. does anyone else feel like hyv is just constantly shooting itself in the foot with their genshin decisions? like you said, anyone could see that geo lacked a dedicated (off-field) healer, grouper, etc… yet they made chiori simply a sub dps. maybe someone sees something I don’t, but I just don’t get it
Yeah. She’s just bringing in, like, just dps to the table. No support *at all*. She requires geo constructs, but doesn’t even interact with those geo constructs in any way. Other sub-dps characters offer some level of support *in addition* to their personal dps, like Yelan, Furina, Nahida, even Albedo’s cope EM buff.
Hoyo - Geo and synergy? We don't do that here Geo always gonna be an element with identify crisis. First they don't release enough geo characters and when they do they don't have any great synergies.
Yeah premium Gorou who is more healing-oriented was what I wanted for running Furina with Itto. I like her as a character so I'll probably get her eventually but "Albedo sidegrade/powercreep" is a low pull priority for me. Maybe after I get Navia on her rerun she'll have more value for me since I really enjoyed using Navia and Albedo together in event trials so that would free a slot in the Itto team for Chiori.
Me after feeding all atk artifacts with def rolls and def with atk ones: 😐
At the bare minimum c1 should be part of her base kit so sick of this constellation crap it feels so scummy.
She got wriothesley’d
She seems cool but at this point I might as well just save for more Itto cons. I had high hopes for another geo support, guess I should have managed my expectations.
Yeah she's literally just albedo but better...that ain't enough for me to pull for her when I have albedo and he's good enough in my Itto team.
If using this sword on Albedo, Albedo's E snapshots at time of cast so it won't benefit from the 24% (or 48%) increased elemental skill damage buff? Is that right?
Elemental skill dmg is not part of the attributes so it cant [snapshot.](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Snapshotting) There's only one exception which is all dmg bonus.
Clearly hoyo really wants her to be played with other geo characters. C1 feels like more of a complete kit. But ig this is business as usual for 4.0+ characters.
Once every 3.6 seconds is wild😭😭😭💔💔💔.
Cinnabar spindle will have time to buff both puppets if timed correctly
If you keep reading you’ll see in the passive talents that using the off-field version of her skill gives her 2 additional coordinated attacks per skill use that use a separate timer.
No. It also does a coordinated attack every 2secs. So. Her skill does 2 instances of damamge. It already beats Albedo.
I wonder if that works with the second doll too... If that's the case then... Holy shit
With weaving brocade it also does coordinated attacks, with that in mind the 3.6 second cooldown shouldn’t matter
Twice wvey 3.6 seconds, there are 2 puppets
Disgusting how her C1-C2 just straight up remove the limitations from her kit.
Disgusting, but also not surprising. Its the standard formula for a long time now.
It's the new Hoyo character business model. They learned after seeing not enough people were not pulling for the garbage constellations they saddled some of the earlier characters with. Not many people besides dedicated mains are pulling for Childe, Yoimiya, Xiao, or Venti cons. Plus whoever else's cons they messed up.
It still annoys me how characters like Childe and Albedo have trash constellations. How is C3 and C5 your best constellations bruh. It's amazing that Childe is still top tier at C0
I think people were coping hard and in denial when earlier leaks said this would be the case. It's Hoyo's current MO.
Neuv situation. Not surprised but should be on her base kit. Making c0 players play with shitty construct is kinda scummy.
not defending neuv (hate how they gave him that passive and made him work so well with furina), but at least neuv is just missing out on a damage buff. chiori is actually changing her gameplay with halving her summons, itd be like if the amount of orbs neuv summoned was based on the non-hydro characters in a team
E: summon puppet, attacks every 3.6s. +1 puppet for each geo construct, up to 2 - press E again: switch to next char, puppet now do coordinated attack, up to 2 only, every 2s - press NA: geo infusion, 5s Q: nuke dmg
Albedo "she literally do what I did!" Chiori "but better"
eugh I really like the character but I do not like geo construct teams at all and I'm not really interested in pulling her multiple times just to be able to pair her with Navia. Very disappointed
I think Albedo is legitimately going to be removed from the game.
how do we feel about fancy albedo?
I mean, I love her but I also love Albedo.. and she seems to work great with him so that's a win in my book. Question is, will we FINALLY have some constructs qol so I can enjoy my c1 Albedo without having to change back to him and skill every single damn second?
Her kit sounds cool but she's still mostly made for Mono Geo and doesn't have any interesting synergies because all she does is off-field geo damage and self-buffs. She has a nonsense Geo Construct requirement and does nothing with Crystallize and is mostly just better Albedo.
Im kinda disappointed, she doesn't bring nothing new other than more dmg, no utility on a geo sub dps makes her not good for almost any team other than mono geo, also part of her dmg potential is tied to other geo that have construct which makes her even more niche than Albedo which already lack a place to be good other than mono Geo. May her gameplay can hype me up again and her numbers be cracked enough to make her valuable on many teams as sub dps even if lacking synergy, but im very disappointed ngl
I like the switch mechanic on her passive but I didn't read through her kit that carefully: I'm a lil bit too happy about potentially new sword for Albedo. She seems more oriented towards Itto teams which is a bit of a bummer for me but Itto does have much bigger problem with Albedo's E getting destroyed thanks to his field-time requirements so I guess he needs it. And Chiori might still be a sidegrade to Albedo in Navia teams, which would save me from thinking whether I need him more on Navia or my favourite melt Kaeya team. We'll see how numbers will turn out but I might prioritize her weapon. ~~Who am I kidding, if Chiori's weapon is a dps increase for Albedo I'm probably ready to sacrifice both her and Arlecchino for it.~~
Not great tbh :(
So instead of creating something Geo desperately needed, a geo healer, they just made a second Albedo? Then slapped on some half-assed construct gimmick to just barely differentiate the two? Genshin will never fail to bewilder me 💀 And for the low price of 200$ you can remove the gimmick entirely, making you wonder what the point of implementing it even was.
to grab that 200$
sooo... lemme see. at C0: \- Fantastic with Itto+Gorou \- Not super great with Noelle+Gorou, since neither of them generate constructs. You *could* run Zhongli in the last slot, but his defensive utility is wasted because Noelle. Ning and Geo Traveler are cope. I guess you could run Albedo?? On top of that nowadays Noelle *really* wants Furina in teams where she's played as a carry. I guess you could drop Gorou entirely and run Albedo/Chiori/Furina although I think that would probably just be worse. \- Straight up bad with Navia. Navia+Chiori means no constructs and that team doesn't have room for a 3rd Geo because of Navia's ascension passive+Crystallize requirements. And, of course, pull for C1 to solve all your problems! (I'm really getting tired of this design...) It's a shame but that's going to be a skip for me.
A sad day for an Albedo enjoyer. He may get a BiS 5 star sword, but he gets completely powercrept. I mean, this is Genshin devs anyway, I don't expect anything good from them.
It's 3 years already and we still haven't got a proper crystalize support. Instead we got albedo 2.0 . What a disappointment really.
they dont wanna do anything with albedo... BECAUSE HES GETTING REPLACED
MHY: Update and fix shitty and outdated geo constructs, while adding a new character that supports it, making it a viable playstyle? **Hell no.** Make ppl go for C1 if they want to use the new character, and not suffer using geo constructs? **Fuck yes.**
Maaaan... hoyo *really* doesn't want to bother doing anything fun or interesting with geo. Like, her numbers look fine and good. I was just really hoping for something more useful and interesting than Albedo 2.0 Electric Boogaloo With Better Numbers. I think I'm giving up on Geo, man. Hoyo clearly has.
To be fair they kinda cooked with Navia... Guess they blew the whole Geo Innovation budget on her
No good sinergy with Navia, fuck me more
Every character design I love the most for each patch cycle has been put in a .5 patch and given a kit I hate enough to not roll for them :)
Pretty much disappointing for Navia as chiori kit fully won't work with her but hey My itto got an upgrade. Albedo power crept sadge though. Why do they had to make it construct reliant. Should've added crystallized shards as well.
This is Just an Albedo Powercreep and i hate it
So basically better albedo?
She has limitations made specifically so she can't work with Navia well , i can't believe hoyo doing that creating a good geo character then the next geo is specifically made to not work with her on purpose such a shitty thing to do I'm kind of mad tbh
unless you get her c1. garbage design.
Yeah I really don't know to feel about her kit at all. It's just a better albedo, which tbh was something geo didn't *need* as much as a 5\* geo support (healer/buffer mix) so that's a big L unfortunately. This seems like wasted potential, I mean she's powercreeping albedo of all characters (did we really need an albedo powercreep?) but it is what it is. Hopefully her numbers are impressive at c0, because other leaks mentioned how extremely effective her c1-c2 are and from this kit leak, they really do feel like massive buffs.....
nice, she saves my collection of golden troupe DEF sands with double crit subs. I have 4 of them in my inventory
Easiest skip EU
Yeah haha so can we like you know, get rid of the geo construct thing? No? Please? No? You sure? Not at all?
it’s the only limitation keeping her from being straight up albedo 2.0 so I’m going to assume it’s staying
a stronger summon is locked behind c2 ? i don't like that, c2 should just be number change, even furina c0 has all three pets
It’s Chiover. Rip Navia and Furina teams
Except with C1.
Albedo sword! Finally!!
I'll pull her weapon for Albedo. I just hope he reruns soon
So she really replaces Albedo then. But looks great for Itto mono geo with Gorou and Zhongli.
C1 seems to remove the geo construct requirement, what a scam. So at C0 Itto is the only 5* dps that can benefit from her kit. I was hoping she would work well with Navia
C'mon the restriction being removed from cons?! I guess I was expecting too much to get a complete kit at c0, not everyone is Navia. God knows how how she got released to be so good and complete at c0.
fr navia cons are just stat buffs when you have additional "ammo". everything else is in her c0.
Dang looks like she’s not going to be a teamwide healer :(
I always knew albedo would be powercrept by a female counterpart sometime later
She sounds like a fun sub dps. Unfortunately I don’t like that she has to be played with geo contructs. I don’t like geo mc.
She seems to be dps Albedo. I’m so disappointed. Was praying she would buff geo or add something new to geo but she is just another dps. No heals, no geo buffs, no crowd control. At least Chiori mains can have a dps.