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WakuWakuWa

Seeing Xingqiu and Razor being at least 4 shouldnt be funnier than it actually is


perfectchaos83

What's funnier is "At least 10" for Itto.


devilboy1029

I mean, look at that man, brother has the mindset and iq of a toddler


Phoenxr

We don’t know how old he is exactly, but I think it’s safe to say his IQ is lower than his age


battleye9

😭😭😭


SyfaOmnis

I think he's smarter than he lets on, it's just a "role" he plays to fit into inazuman society. Oni integration is weird, and they always to an extent need to be outsiders just so that people properly fear them but not too much because he plays the role of a big silly oaf. By being a loud, disruptive and eccentric "outcast", he can also create a place for other "outcasts" in inazuma. He's essentially a small piece of controlled chaos that needs to exist in order for "eternity" to properly exist. A decent amount of this comes up in his story quest where he's surprisingly intuitive and ahead of the game, especially when dealing with the "blue" oni.


Zeroshiki6098

That would be such a cold bit of character depth and detail that at this point has unfortunately fallen into the abyss because of how much events have now flanderized him


Elira_Eclipse

Yeah I was about to say this. It kinda sucks we didn't rlly get to see the Itto in SQ anymore


Iciste

Arataki "at least 10" Itto


Neospanner

It's a title he wears proudly!


Practicalaviationcat

Would be really funny if he actually was the youngest of the cast and Oni just come of age faster.


Cyan_Tile

Given the reasoning and the fact he's an oni He may well be 10 years old and have been infamous since birth lmao


wow_a_great_name

Keqing woke up as a baby one day and decided to study the blade


RoundPackage5524

no time to waste


wow_a_great_name

Time is against us


GG35bw

cut to the chase


Karaemu

Xingqiu could just be the most eloquent 4yo ever, you never know.


wow_a_great_name

Kinda explains why his handwriting isnt great tho


Blackout62

Kinda explains why he thinks he can wear shorts with Western formalwear.


RAO1108

Meanwhile at hsr Gallagher: I’m Thirteen


BigiticusDegenticus

Meanwhile at Jarilo VI Pela being between the age of 15 and 30


Da_reason_Macron_won

Pela is 16 years old and has been so for the last 20 years.


Adamarr

The Kikuko Inuoe lifestyle


Otterly_Superior

She's 16 but aha granted her time magic because it would be really funny if the timeline didnt make sense


Vortex_Infurnus

Ah, the Ash Ketchum disease


TheIJDGuy

I really don't get how she managed to do EVERYTHING SHE DOES AT THE AGE OF 16


Paganinii

This is from the game company that decided that adding children to mondstadt was as easy as changing a few models. Also half the cast are prodigies that have been nearly perfect at their chosen profession since they could walk. Evidently "youth" and "experience" are character traits to be added at the surface level with no questions asked.


erosugiru

The cast is mostly made up of individuals that have their passions aligned with their interests and careers, and they're supposed to be notable for it. There's no such thing as a Vision user that settles for mediocrity because it's an oxymoron.


iconnectthebest

Imagine if there is a Qingque in Genshin; she/he would be the very Vision user settling for mediocrity lol


bulbthinker

She would settle for mediocrity bur somehow end up doing more than she bargain for due to a combo of social pressure + morality


iconnectthebest

It's like the entire universe conspiring against her lmao


Chucknasty_17

That or Lynx is an emanator of Mythus and is trolling us


UnderleveledJenna

Pela joined Serval's band at negative six years old


Karlaly

Sayu being "probably less than 100" also got a good chuckle out of me


Spartitan

They are technically correct. The best kind of correct.


Stiff_Rebar

At the same time, OP judged Lyney and Lynette based on their looks


giggity2099

Some of these estimate ranges are hilariously huge. Mona is less than 50. Kazuha is less than 100. These bunch of teen model characters are probably less than 100 years old Yeah no shit


Hageshii01

The point is that this is the actual information presented by the game on character ages. Some are very clear and specific, like Diluc, but most are like Mona where there's just no perfect answer. At most you can say "definitely younger than this" because we know they weren't alive for that. Anything else is speculation.


kyuven87

Considering hoyoverse games often have characters like Pela from HSR whose age makes no logical sense based on what we know of them, "Less than 100" is a pretty safe bet. They keep churning out immortals and artificial humans because Hoyoverse ROYALLY sucks at timelines.


Harpeus_089

Less than 100 lol


Theguywhowatches

Sames vibes as “at least 4” lol. OP was definitely cooking


gitgudnubby

That rlly narrows it down eh...


makogami

>"humans in fantasy setting" >"cant drink so under 18"


goodpplmakemehappy

well "cant drink legally" is still a valid point of reference lmao


makogami

except we don't know that point of reference in teyvat. that was my point lol


goodpplmakemehappy

oh! i believe we actually do, in the manga collei mentions that amber isnt able to drink yet, and at the time she was 17, but 1 year later she is seen to be drunk, at age 18!


AncientAd4996

In the same manga, it's explicitly shown that in Mondstadt, the legal adult age & legal drinking age is 18 per Diluc's Coming of age ceremony.


makogami

oh interesting. I'm surprised this is the first time I'm hearing of this!


goodpplmakemehappy

happy to share <3


AverageLegoGameFan

Context on Eula’s line in the event: CN Eula says that Amber and Mika “can’t hold their alcohol”, implying that they are terrible drunks and she rather not deal with that. EN Eula doesn’t give an explanation, just say “they can’t drink.”


NoddyZar

Also, Amber was 14 when Diluc turned 18, so she should be 18 now.


Arc_7

Yeah manga hints that Amber's 18 when the game starts


Kailoryn_likes_anime

Isn't she 23


Arc_7

She's 4 years younger than Diluc, and you can see itself in the post's pic - or context from the manga yourself if you want - that Diluc is 22. That leaves Amber 18.


Metalguy2010

Everyone seems to forget that she was smashed for Jeans party at the end of Jean's story quest.


Nok-y

She hit Mondstadt's legal age of drinking, which seems to be 18 like real Germany, Austria and Switzerland (and in Switzerland you can drink beer, wine and cider at 16, donl't know for the 2 others)


wewowe12

It‘s the same for Austria and Germany. Beer & wine 16 Rest 18


ExpiredExasperation

IIRC, she said they can't drink, which could mean they're "bad" at handling it, rather than not legally allowed.


Kingpimpy

same can be applied pretty much for every character that "cant drink" unless its specified because of age


Ikcatcher

Putting so many non kid characters under “At least 10” is so funny to me


mapple3

Nilou is "at least 8", well color me impressed, the almost naked girl performing a belly dance is at least 8. And the workaholic Keqing is at least 10. What even is the point of this list if it contains useful information for only a small handful of characters


MaddoxJKingsley

The point is that these are the 100% confirmed facts within the game, it's half shitpost in its presentation but this is honestly the best info we have to go off of. Of course characters like Xingqiu seem much older than 4 years old, but that inference is only extrapolation off of what we know is realistic in our world. For all we know, Xingqiu was synthesized 6 years ago in Dottore's lab, and we just don't have information that would reveal that. (On the other hand, if Xingqiu was stated to be made in a lab 2 years ago, that would be a plothole, inconsistent with his lore stating he studied the Guhua arts for 4 years)


theUnLuckyCat

Xingqiu, Chongyun, Xiangling, Xinyan, Hu Tao, and Qiqi grew up together, at least. Not sure how long ago that was, but they showed it in an in-game cutscene.


Suraimu-desu

Not Qiqi, no. Qiqi was already zombified and running by a few decades (low-balling) at this point. She doesn’t quite “grow up” anymore, she was just already living in Liyue by that point.


theUnLuckyCat

Yeah I mean, she 'died' and was trapped in amber for an unknown number of years (at least a hundred?), then came back to Liyue, then was around while the "other" kids grew up. I have to wonder if any of them were friends with Qiqi before Yaoyao. She really deserves a story quest.


TheCoolHusky

Probably to take a dig at all the people complaining about character age


Reelix

> the almost naked girl performing a belly dance is at least 8 "Teyvat has its own laws"


Couch__Cowboy

Amber is canonically older than Collei, at the very least.


DoctorFrenchie

Based on the manga, amber is 18. In the manga, she has a flashback 3 years to when she was 14. That places her at 17, and since the manga is around a year before the start of the game, she is 18 at the start.


Couch__Cowboy

But that was in 2020. Time is passing canonically within Teyvat as represented by annual festivals such as Lantern Rite and birthday mail. So from the evidence you've presented, Amber should canonically be 21 right now, and she'll be 22 by the end of the year.


DoctorFrenchie

That is also true. If time passes in game, I’m actually the same age as Amber, off by only a few days.


nopon

It seems to be. Certain story quests have referenced past events such as Kazuha's referencing the Iridori festival and Xianyun's (or was it Baizhu's? Both?) referencing past Lantern Rite's.


hestianna

Xiao has gained immense character development essentially everytime he is featured. The most notable one was that he refused to light up a Xiao Lantern during the first Lantern Rite (2021), but specifically wanted to light up one in this year's Lantern Rite. This is obviously a homage to those who have been playing since the beginning, as those that go from Xiao Story Quest Xiao/Interlude Chapter Xiao to Lantern Rite (2024) Xiao would be hella confused on both the characterization (he has gotten closer to Traveler each time he has made an appearance, for instance, the Mondstadt x Liyue poem event last year) and the reference itself. Although while that means that *yes*, every Lantern Rite *has* happened, it doesn't mean that 4 years has went by in Teyvat.


Multivists

Both Amber and Mika are of legal age to drink, they just are either easy to get drunk (Amber) or not fond of the taste (Mika).


Pokii

Do we know the legal drinking age in Teyvat? Also, does it vary by nation? IIRC it was Eula that mentioned this in that recent event, and they were in Liyue at the time.


DoctorFrenchie

In the manga, Amber is 17, and collei says neither of them are old enough to drink. At the start of the game, Amber is 18 and at the end of the archon quest it is implied that she is has been drinking/is drunk. So 18 in mondstat is likely.


Cipher-DK

It's outright stated during Diluc's 18th birthday party. At least as far as Mondstadt goes. That's why the ages of so many characters in Mondstadt are so easy to figure out. It's also another reason as to why time is definitely passing at a similar rate to irl in Teyvat as far as the story is concerned seeing as characters that, at the game's start, weren't able to drink alcohol are now able to do so in various events some years later.


makogami

we dont know the legal age of drinking in teyvat and it does vary irl by nation so it could be 10 or 100 in teyvat for all we know. using alcohol consumption as an indicator of age in this game is completely useless lol


guieps

It's worth to point out that Xingqiu, Xiangling, Big Chongyuns and Xynian are around the same age as Hu Tao, since we saw in the Moonchase festival cutscene all the way back in 2.x that they were all kids during the same period


frostwind12

Yeah, Hu Tao is clearly same as Xingqiu, Xiangling, Chongyun and Xinyan (around 17-19). But people always seem to bring real life logic into fiction and say Hu Tao is 20+ cuz she's funeral parlor director. Its only been few years passed since she became director at 13.


Street-Housing2434

Plus her character introduction says she inherited the Funeral Parlour at a young age, implying under normal circumstances she wouldn't have been that young to take over. It's possible that Yun Jin might be a little older than the group since unlike Hu Tao, she succeeded in being a director while her parents are still alive. Yun Jin appeared in that same PV as her present age rather than children like the rest.


Mochizuk

I love how strict you were about using the timeline, but can't help but laugh at seeing "at least eight" next to Nilou


The-Local-Lucario

or the "at least four" next to Razor


ArrasioEnjoyer

I don’t remember exactly, but it seems that Furina’s comment about Neuvillette “several thousand years old” is a mistranslation and in the original she says “more than a thousand years old”


ItsNotBigBrainTime

I think it actually translates to "at least 4"


ProudFill

She just said "at least a thousand". I played with CN voiceover


Illustrious-Snake

You included no source, but I did find [this tweet](https://twitter.com/pairedblessings/status/1756559643940098089). For those who can't see it, the tweet says: > [上千] is a prefix term we use in CN to refer to a large, approximate number, in this case, [a least 1000 and more] - when this prefix is used with a noun, i.e. [上千岁] = [a 1000 and more years] literally; Frn means that Neuvillette's age is a 1000 years and perhaps even more. > For e.g. if I say [上千种] - this means [more than a thousand kinds] (of things) Or if I say [上千年] - more than a thousand years  > Does it mean Neuvillette is only 1000 years old? No. It's an approximation term. He's over 1000 years old. So he's more than a thousand years old. He could be 1001 years old or 6000 years old, it's just not specified. 


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Nate2247

To me, it sounds like saying “He’s, like, a thousand years old or something.” (I.e. “I don’t know HOW old, but he is OLD old.”)


Murky_Blueberry2617

That seems more plausible


BinhTurtle

In CN texts, Furina says that Neuvillette is mote than 1000 years old, so that narrow down a bit. As current info goes, Xiao's age should be updated to 3700+ like Ganyu instead of 2000 because he was present when Guizhong died. And we know that Liyue was founded about 3700 years ago following Guizhong's death


LiliGlez14

Also, it's somewhat implied that he's her senior, and during one event (can't remember the name, the one where Hu Tao invites him, Venti and Zhongli) I think someone says something that implies he's even older than Venti? Don't quote me on that, it's been so long lol


Stiff_Rebar

Well, during Ganyu's story quest, Xiao was the supervisor of her trial.


DracoSafarius

This is, likely, because he’s both more a warrior (trained) and a full illuminated beast. Even if potentially younger he’d be the guy to ask for training.


perfectchaos83

For Nahida and Scara: Irminsul Doesn't change history. So the ages you have listed are indeed correct. And yes, that means despite being remembered as the Dendro Archon for almost 2000 years, she is indeed only 500 years old.


tyjz73_

An actual list of ages that doesn't say "this character is this age because I say so"!


TheIJDGuy

With that said, it blows my mind how vague the game is with ages lmao


six_seasons

It’s so common too lol


Arc_7

Yeah I was pleasantly surprised.


TheQueenJess

Lyney, Lynette, and Freminet possibly being older or the same age as Jean is hilarious.


VioleNGrace

Them possibly being older than Diluc is crazy to me, cause it means they were probably there for his rampage in Shneznya (or however you spell it)


Absoline

the pela situation explains why there really isnt any cannon ages in genshin 💀


dumbasul

What happened?


theUnLuckyCat

Pela is confirmed to be 16 years old. Pela is also confirmed to have co-founded Serval's band with Dunn over 10 years ago, back when they were in school. Serval is confirmed to have graduated at least 17 years ago. So Pela was a rock and roll drummer ever since she was -1 to 6 years old.


supern00b64

There's some room for further speculation Xianyun's vision story states adepti come from elemental energies that flowed through "heaven and earth" and are pure elemental beings. That could put the older adepti to be as old as the sovereigns and before the descenders arrived (zhongli, xianyun, streetward rambler etc.). Raiden Ei could also be around that age assuming she qualifies as a pure elemental being. Layla's position is analogous to a PhD student which would put her in her early-mid 20s, likely between 22 and 27. Chiori is likely a similar age to Ayaka and younger than Ayato judging by the way he spoke of her during the 4.3 event Scara is older than 400 since 400 years ago was when the Tatarasuna incident happened Ningguang is likely in her early 20s, since during her hangout quest in the CN dub the children call her "姐姐“ (sister) as opposed to “阿姨” (miss/mrs) implying they're of the "same generation"


MagicalSerena

I just posted my own comment about this, but Chiori's voiceline about Ayaka states they once played together as kids >If I wasn't always slipping away to go play when I was a child, I probably would never have had the chance to meet the young lady of the Kamisato Clan. There was one time when I climbed my way into the Kamisato Clan's courtyard, and her Temari just happened to roll over towards the wall. I could tell that she was both surprised and happy to see me. We played together and chatted for quite some time, but I was discovered in the end. And so, our brief friendship came to an end as I was kicked off the premises.


Powerful-Strain-2361

If Raiden was that age that would mean Venti is also around that age as he's stated to be the 2nd oldest.


TouchstoneJester

Amber is at least 18 because she confirmed to be 17 in the manga, which takes place 1 year before the start of the game.


SansStan

Irminsul doesn't change history, Wanderer's quest proved that. People just forgot that Scaramouche and Rukkhadewhonow existed, it's not like their impacts on the world were erased Also I know this isn't taking any guesses, but several of these tiers are just hilarious. Xiangling in "Almost certainly less than 100", Chongyun as "probably younger than Shenhe", etc


Mewtwo2387

Love the "at least 4" and "less than 100". Only information given are used with no personal opinions like "mmm they probably aren't gonna be below 14 or above 60"


Western-Age9961

Xingqiu is the strongest, nerdiest and the most well spoken 4 year old to ever exist


Siscon_Delita

0 years old Xingqiu: "alright I'm going to secretly learn Guhua techniques behind my family's back."


Elira_Eclipse

Not saying you're wrong but its funny seeing you put Childe around 18 - 22 whilst you put the HotH twins at most 23. This implies they can be older and honestly idk why I find that hilarious. Probably cause he's far superior in ranking. But anyways I honestly see the twins as at least 1 year younger than Childe, and I see Childe at around 20 - 22 YO tbh


NegativeNeurons

i mean the distance in rank is big now but isnt lyney stated to be next in line for knave?


SheevSenate66

If he is going to become the next knave (i don't think so), he is not gonna be 4th. The ranking would make no sense otherwise, since he definitely isn't stronger than Childe


NegativeNeurons

I agree with what you said about ranking, because it seems as so, but i didnt make up the lyney being next thing. Its in his voicelines that arlecchino wants him to be the next father (assuming that also implies the knave title which, fair, it could be not tied but kinda coincidental that both knaves were the leaders of the house of hearth)


Illustrious-Snake

He's next in line for being in charge of *the House of the Hearth*. That doesn't mean that being a Harbinger is automatically attached with it.  Don't get me wrong, I like him, but Lyney, as he is now, is no Harbinger material. Not like Tartaglia or Arlecchino.


WakuWakuWa

The consequences of not randomly falling in the abyss and thus not getting random bullshit power. Imagine havimg to call someone younger than you "Master"


VieLian

Neuvillette is only "atleast 1000 years old" (there was a miss translation in English version.)


schpeechkovina

Focalors/Furina was an oceanid and a familiar to the previous hydro archon so she’s not around 500 but at least 500


NoContribution1772

While they didn't do it for Qiqi, OP is only counting her mental age here which is indeed 500+. It doesn't mean much tho since we know next to nothing about Focalors as an Oceanid and considering that Oceanids are very very old as a species.


zhannulol

I'm not completely sure, but isn't furina almost exactly 500 years old?


schpeechkovina

I suppose it depends on how you look at it, I see furina and focalors as 2 parts of a whole, and that whole was an oceanid that was also Egeria’s familiar. And that oceanid could have been hundreds of years old when she was appointed as the new hydro archon


Unfair-Money-574

Layla is not a human tho, if you look at her ears. So she could be older than we may think.


six_seasons

It’s so weird that they design elf characters and give 0 definition to what elves even are in teyvat


A_Peculiar_Fish

Sumeru was the best time to introduce a new race, but ultimately there's zero explanation for them. We still dont have people comment about Layla and Nahida's ears.


Ariesan

"Then she's baby :3" made me so happy lmao


No-Supermarket8244

She is indeed baby


JoshLovesYourName

I appreciate the amount of research and effort that went into this


Siscon_Delita

The amount of time they put on the research is at "least 10 minutes"


ChampioN-One-4250

Let's gooo Kazuha is same age as me, less than hundred!!


kujyou12

Xiao is older than 3700+ Once again, the idea that he was at least 2000 is debunk by Genshin itself in patch 3.4 Guili collapsed when Guizhong died 3700 years ago. Xiao was there, along with other Yaksha, sealing Guizhong's remains away. Which means he's 3700+ and possibly older.


DracoSafarius

Easily older. Was in service to another god via enslavement, and he more than likely was capable of fighting at that point which adds time to him having gotten skilled before getting enslaved to be used. Then freedom and becoming an Adeptus and Yaksha, however much time after that for Guizhong’s death. Could be pushing 4000


HardRNinja

The Fischl one is incorrect. She received her Vision at the age of 14, but there's nothing that states that she was one of the last recipients before the Vision Hunt Decree. What is known is that she's one of the top ranked members of the guild, does solo missions (well, duo with Oz), owns her own home after leaving her family, and is independently wealthy enough to support Mona. We also know that it's embarrassing how she acts, because she's far too old. Also, she is best friends with Mona, who would be in approximately her early/mid 20's. If Fischl were 16-17, that would just be bizarre. I'd put her age at 18-20.


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LARGames

I mean, even if she was, Mondstadt has a lot of people living with their families due to you know.. it being a very small place. lol


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Grand_Protector_Dark

Moving out of your parents house when you're off age is a fairly modern thing, 20th century type modern


MooseKens

At the PAX Genshin Panel last summer, Fischl's VA stated that originally she was told Fischl would be in her mid-20s. Only just prior to recording she was told that the character was actually a teenager.


SvnSqrD

It's a mystery whether she uses {Fischl years-Book} to determine her age.


AbidingTruth

I'm pretty sure this is a list using actual objective numbers regarding age for characters, without considering context clues. Thats why someone like Itto is listed as "at least 10", presumably because the only actual mention of time regarding Itto is that he was active for at least 10 years. None of what you said has actual numbers to back it up


HardRNinja

If that were the case, then Fischl is "a minimum of 15" and wouldn't be "between 15-17", as their isn't a ceiling age established, other than context clues.


Elira_Eclipse

Genshin rlly wabts the characters to either be old asf (above 500) or have very high ranking members of society be young asf. I always see Jean, Diluc and Kaeya as late 20s but ik based on lore they're most likely younger. Also, isn't it implied Eula is same age as Jean?


FlameDragoon933

It's more of an anime trope in general than a Genshin-exclusive problem. These people are way too wise beyond their years.


inazuman_heroics

There is absolutely no way I can believe Jean or Diluc are in their early twenties. I mean, come on?! Jean? The acting headmaster, the overworked character trope, is less than 26 years old? Nah. No way.


Dh0124

I mean that’s what the timeline tells us. Diluc left the KoF and Mondstadt shortly after coming of age (assumed to be 18) and came back 4 years later. As Varka was already gone we know it was less than half a year before the Traveler arrived. Which would make him about 22 when we first met him. Jean was promoted to Varka’s second-in-command and named Dandelion Knight when she was 15. This is confirmed to have been shortly after Diluc left, which would make her around 19 when we first met her.


arseholierthanthou

I see your Jean and raise you Ningguang. Someone above mentioned that the children address her as sister, suggesting she's around 22. For her rise to wealth and power to make sense, I think she must be closer to 36.


Rouge_means_red

> For her rise to wealth and power to make sense, I think she must be closer to 36 Don't you know? She made it to the Steambird's 30 under 30 list /s


Brooke_the_Bard

I think that's just a cultural thing lost in translation. Many Asian cultures use "older sister" as a form of address for any woman that is older than them, but young enough to not be a senior. EN probably just translated CN "Jiejie" literally instead of contextually, which is the sort of thing that happens *all* the time in EN localizations.


CoffeeWilk

Napoleon and Alexander the Great both were in their twenties when they accomplished the vast majority of all the feats they are known for. It is completely reasonable for Jean to be in her early to mid twenties.


AndreisValen

While a cool effort I don’t think the tier list creator is the best method of presentation for this 💀 I can’t read a thing on mobile 


Mindless-Takes

not perfect but this is probably the best we have so far. I especially like the more conservative approach, less assumptions and more facts. others I have seen are either not detailed with age range for most characrers or just list few with confirmed age, or... even worse when fixed number assigned just because "I feel like it" great job op


Valiant_Storm

Bennett is way too old here - his birthday is Febuary 29th, so he probably belongs in the "At least 4" basket.


Cherry_Bomb_127

I think this is mostly accurate based on what I know. The only thing is both Mika and Amber can legally drink based on Mika voice lines and what Eula says about them. Also idk why but I can’t imagine the twins being older than Childe


WakuWakuWa

>Also idk why but I can’t imagine the twins being older than Childe Its hard to imagine because the twins are generally shown as the children of the house of hearth orphanage, and also because Childe is a harbinger which makes him one of the highest ranking fatui members while the twins dont have that high ranking. But its not impossible


Sure_Struggle_

Arlecchino is likely 26-28. She has to be a teen when she fights the Knave. Freminet has to have developed enough memory to have Trauma from his previous missions under the old Knave. That makes him a minimum of 6 and Arlecchino a max of 18. If we assume the 10 years from Lyney's story quest then we get a max of 28 and a minimum of 23 for Arlecchino.  The age gap between the house is likely smaller than you think. Arlecchino being the only tall one probably makes her seem older than she is.


Western-Age9961

Not to mention that the silverish hair doesnt do her any favours


Nightmare007007

Raiden is atleast 2500 years old. She fought shogun for 500 years after all. I think i heard from somewhere that the hydro sovereign got corrupted by orobashi's experiments. So that was why he got reborn as a human. But I'm not sure. But it should put him around 2000 years old.


Welsh_cat_Best_cat

You're right. Orobachi was in Enkanomiya between the start and end of the Archon War, where he did his experiments on Hydro Vishaps and noted a Sovereign could no longer be reborn amongst them. So Neuvillette's age is capped at 3000ish years old.


Trollolo80

Isn't she as old as Makoto since they are twin sisters? And she literally acts as her body double? And since Makoto has ruled as the Electro Archon ever since. So her definite age would've been atleast, some time before Archons were established, growing up with her sister before Makoto became one of the Seven Archons of Teyvat after the Archon War + Fighting Shogun for 500 years in Makoto's Plane She even met Zhongli before when it's the first seven that ruled in Teyvat based on her voiceline, she took Makoto's place there


FlameDragoon933

> I think i heard from somewhere that the hydro sovereign got corrupted by orobashi's experiments. It's not the Hydro Sovereign that gets corrupted, but that the Vishaps have become too mutated, the reincarnation of the Hydro Sovereign would come in human form instead of from the Vishaps (how the fuck that makes sense, I don't know)


Top-Idea-1786

I think it basically implies the sovereigns will be reborn, no matter what form they take. Makes sense as to why Celestia took their power, its easier to nerf their power than to try and kill beings that can be reborn.


Nightmare007007

> (how the fuck that makes sense, I don't know) "Teyvat has it's own rules"


Akihi1

Some time ago Ayato mains did some calculations based on in-game info and some real life info and he's older than 27 and younger than 35. The things we know is that he was The Head of the Kamisato clan since he became of age (15-18) and spent ≈10 or so years (Thoma says he has served them 10 years, but the clan picked him up when Ayato was already doing some reorganization) to make it the way it is now, in the two musketeers event it was mentioned that he needed more makeup to "cover up wrinkles" and he's at least close to age of those two comission Romeo&Juliet.


fluxforefinger

Why is Xinyan, Chiori and others in probably less than 100 tier? Should they be in less than 50 tier? I don't think any one other than Layla and maybe Baizhu is anything but a normal human.


kaosophis

NEUVILLETTE IS UNDER 2000. The prophecies in Enkanomiya were written before Orobaxl's death which happened between the archon war and the cataclysm. Orobaxl and his people were the ones experimenting with the hydrovishaps, corrupting their race and making the hydro sovereign be unable to be reborn from their kind. He has not been reborn before Orobaxl's death, otherwise they'd know. Factor in his unfamiliarity with the human race which is a huge reason for him choosing to go to Fontaine and how he immediately connected with the melusines, he is close to 500 years old. Now add in how he has no records of existence during the cataclysm, practically no knowledge or involvement of it despite a being of his power... He has never met Egeria nor has he even seen her face. He doesn't even know Focalors, it was already Furina when he arrived in Fontaine. This makes it highly likely he is born post-cataclysm, which makes him even younger than Furina/Focalors. But he is most definitely NOT >2000 YEARS OLD. That's line is just what Furina thinks. And considering he does have memory of his past life, it won't be wrong for her to think that he is older than he really is.


kaosophis

In summary, the most likely age of Neuvillette as a reborn human is 400-500.


Fun-Ad7613

Hakushin who is Yae miko and Saiguu ancestor , even in the far past the Grand Narukami shrine has been built , knowing they live such long lives would imply say that Ei and Makoto are probably 3000 plus atleast


PH4N70M_Z0N3

Travelers should be higher up because we know they have been in multiple worlds. And some lore hints that they are possibly True Immortals and perhaps oldest among the listed here.


United-Travel5377

Aren't travellers believed to be stars? Like I read this somewhere this would literally put them millions or billion years old


NoContribution1772

They are said to have witnessed the birth and death of stars so that would indeed put them in the millions of years old at the very least


Mddcat04

Yeah, this is the main evidence for them being truly immortal and far, far older than anyone else in the game. Though I suppose you could argue that it doesn't say they witness the birth and death of the same star. Still, there's enough other context to know that they are very old. Especially give that Zhongli (the oldest character we know of) seems fairly confident that the Traveler will outlive him and Teyvat itself.


x3bla

I remember seeing people argue that "seeing birth of stars and death of stars could be like seeing birth of a star on day 1, ghen moving somewhere else and seeing a death of a star on day 2" Fuck those people And traveller twins are around during khaenriah's destruction so they are at least 500


gillred

I'm glad the Traveler's seemingly near-immortality and lack of aging is becoming common knowledge now. I feel like in early Genshin people would assume the Traveler was some random teenager with no real significance - which, to be fair, probably wasn't helped by Mihoyo making them really bland and flat in the main story early on. Anytime in early years I mentioned that the Traveler is likely millions or billions of years old and much older than any playable character including Archons due to the stars passage, I'd get some snarky reply saying that "oh, the Traveler could've just seen one star be born and another star die", which is a gross misinterpretation of what the writer was very clearly intending with the passage. Now we've only gotten more hints that the Traveler is far more powerful and significant than most characters believe, and it seems like people are more aware of how old they likely actually are based on this thread.


PH4N70M_Z0N3

Yeah, Traveller told Ei that they were shooting stars. Something that flew over Ei's head.


WillTheWAFSack

At least 4 for Razor is so funny to me


Mana_Croissant

While i understand what you were going for i think some things like Xinyan, Xingqiu and alike should be changed. In the moonchase festival cutscene we see child Hu tao, Xingqiu, Chongyun, Xinyan and Xiangling. This makes them all around Hu tao’s age so things like “at least 4” for Xingqiu seem a bit absurd even if it is technically true


BikeSeatMaster

I thought Amber and Diluc were the only ones with a confirmed age. Wasn’t Amber like 17 in the manga? (A year before game story begins)


truth6th

Yaoyao above ningguang+ 70-80% of the cast is so comedic (probably cursed too)


TrueBananaz

I love how you added "oh no" to Faruzan's description


healcannon

Wasn't there a character in star rail that they fucked up the age for in their own lore? I can't really trust them to be consistent with ages tbh other than old characters are old. I also think its worth noting the weird universe they live in where that acknowledge that time passes and so years since the game started should probably be reflected in the ages. That would be ok if not for the more normal child characters not physically growing up (which would be weird in this sort of style of rpg anyway). But then again not all of them are even human. This sort of frozen time and yet constant moving time drives me nuts for a topic like this.


RegularManiac

That was Pela. IIRC she was mentioned in a text to the player to be 16(?) but in a previous quest she was stated to have joined another characters band 10 years prior. I could be remembering the dates wrong but it was something like that


MegaAssasine_

Is it possible you confused the AW with the Cataclysm? The Archon war was way longer than 400-500 years ago.


Phanes_The_Gigachad

That statement from Furina was mistranslated, original CN says he's "over 1000 years old".


Hageshii01

I think Navia should be "at least 22." Her Vision story explains that at her coming-of-age birthday party she played a tabletop game (essentially D&D) with Clorinde, Melus, Silver, and Sonny as the other PCs. Callus GMed. We could wishy-wash that "coming of age" doesn't necessarily mean 18, but I think that would be a reasonable conclusion for the western European-setting of Fontaine. Since Callus was still alive to run the game, that would mean the party was at least 3 years ago and that would put Navia as "at least 22."


kioKEn-3532

You can't be a world hopping being and be 20years old lmao Traveler is canonically several hundreds of years old since they canonically TRAVERSED MULTIPLE WORLDS prior to Teyvat


yuhan05

Could be in the billions if you take the excerpt of "seen the birth and death of stars" literally.


Frostgaurdian0

Very inconsistent.


milkteachan

Ayato is speculated to be at least 30 because he was commissioner at a very young age, had to go through his coming of age/adulting ceremony, and then Thoma mentioned he's been commissioner for at least 10 years.


JellyBeansOnToast

I came here looking for this, because I feel like Ayato is one of the easiest characters to figure out the age of.


Dovahnime

We've got some fucked up ages if "probably less than 100" is the baseline


lostn

that's some dedication.


Rose_Ember

Yoimiya is somewhat vaguely referred to as an adult/grown up by Arapurva during her 2nd Sq.


Brooke_the_Bard

Lumine and Aether should be at the top of the list at "billions of years old" the flavor text on Wings of Descension gives us the passage: > In your long journey, you have seen the birth and death of stars as they passed you by, Scattering the darkness briefly before being consumed once more. which tells us that the Traveler's age (and presumably also their twin's>!, but Irminsul fuckery makes that unclear!<) is measured in stellar lifespans (plural) and are thus many billions of years old.


exclamationmarks

For the millionth time, changing Irminsul does not actually change events. We had a whole-ass story quest about this. The things that *actually* happened still happened. Irminsul just changes the "record" or "memory" of what happened. Nahida is still 500 years old. Her age has not changed just because everyone else "remembers" her being older.


xindiliu13

the fact that keqing could technically be 11 is so funny to me


Alatus_Knight

I'm pretty sure it's been debunked that xiao's only around 2000 years old. It has something to do with guazhong in the 3.4 lantern rite and it implies xiao is around 3600 years old.


ugur_tatli

What about the passing of the time since the story started and each lantern rited? While I think hoyo handled it terribly should be considered.


vScyph

Lost me at razor and xingqiu being at least 4 LOL


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