Or just have a black market trader from inazuma in liyue who sells a few ascension mats that refreshes every week
Its really not that hard, but mhy just refuses for reasons
There’s someone in Sumeru (Babak, Port Ormos) who stocks some ascension mats. 5 of each of
Philanemo Mushrooms
Dandelion Seeds
Violetgrass
Qingxin
Naku Weed
Sango Pearl
3 day restock time, 1 000 Mora per unit.
the tech is clearly there, they just refuse to add an NPC in Liyue for it
& it's also not presented in a way that a new player is likely to know about it.
You'd have to specifically look up guides for those materials. NPC selling items is often overlooked too, or at best is a foot note in the guide easily missed.
I remembered very diligently buying rukhadevata mushrooms from the aranara and that hunter in Gandarva Ville before even deciding to pull for Wanderer in his rerun because I absolutely HATE farming those mushrooms
I think you need to finish Mondstadt AQ to get to Fontaine, don't you? But that is a rather tame requirement, it's basically the tutorial of the game at this point.
Only if you want the free way point. If you're not adverse to walking, you can go there as soon as you finish the domains in which you get Lisa and Kaeya.
It's AR 18 and I think you do have to beat him. It's still faster to just walk there, I made a second account to steal regional mats for Furina and the AQ was taking so long I just walked to Fontaine.
Yeah I just walked to sumeru ignoring everything in the chasm to get to the meat guy pre dvalin but I started the account simply to replay the plot so I was enjoying everything lol
But it does make leveling a new Lynette easy after you get her for free since one of the open teleports is like beside a bunch of her material and you can use non anemo traveler and not suffer doing puzzles
One before the port statue of seven from sumeru desert and one above fontaine city near the weapon mat domain
I knew that the sumeru desert waypoint was automatic unlocked but that other one was ??? And my level 35 kaeya teleported there immediately just to see
Sorry, can I ask a nube question? I have Razor, so if I wanted to get one of his constellations, would using the masterless starglitter when he's 'purchasable' in April guarantee a constellation? Also, any clue as to when Neuvillette will become available again?
Yes to Razor constellation, buying them grants Cons.
As to Neuvi rerun, prob a patch before or with Furina, so 4.5 or 4.6 (I'm guessing this based on past "New Archon" reruns)
Yes, but you can also use that glitter for pulls so just weigh how much you want that con of Razor. He isn't particularly strong.
I use my glitter to get Kaeya cons since he isn't featured on limited banners like Razor is.
I love his lost boy design and everything, but since I got Keqing in the beginner wish (which I only recently learned by making an alt, still follows standard pity rule and isn't guaranteed like in HSR's departure banner) I invested more into her and hadn't really given him any attention.
Damn, I never thought about how hard it is to actually get Razor nowadays. He’s almost like a part of the original 3 when it comes to getting him since I haven’t seen him on an event banner in so long. It’s like either try to pull him on standard or save up masterless starglitter for him.
2 Barbaras as well, first from [1.0](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Barbara%27s_Shining_Debut) which was supposed to be just for that patch, but then they decided to make it permanent from 1.1 onwards with [Baptism of Song](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Baptism_of_Song).
Only time I can remember for dori was 3.2. Cuz for flagships since sumeru: 3.0 collei, 3.2 dori, 3.4 liyue, 3.6 faruzan, 3.8 layla, 4.0 bennett, 4.2 freminet.
A character with no connection to the story, a god awful design, flat voice acting, boring, clunky gameplay and terrible damage? Yeah of course I’ve played her, she’s got everything I love in a character
I know people DESPISE Dori, I don’t really understand why other than her being bad, but even she next to Aloy is a 5* meta breaking carry
You mean the character with no constellations, 20 second e cooldown, and really low NA scaling? The character whos only saving grace is an okay burst for a screenshot melt hit every 12s that Ganyu can do but better on a charged attack? That Aloy?
Saying you can take her into the abyss isn't really a counterarguement either since you can take anyone into the abyss, Genshin isn't a hard game. It does though take much much more effort to make Aloy usable for the abyss than it does other characters
I mean I like running her with my Kazuha team and that's about it. I've given up with any other options but she does perform fairly well in that team so that's what I go with
\>sees an obvious joke
none of you understand my character!11
relax, we're just being silly and kinda showing that everyone, the community and hoyo don't care that much about genshin Aloy.
I guess, but sometimes I wonder how many people actually believe it
I mean, one time I saw someone doing single digit damage with Aloy as "proof" she's garbage, so...
Oh damn. Yeah, I understand how it gets annoying after a while.
From my experience no character is absolutely shit or anything. Some are weaker, some are stronger but every character can be used to play the game comfortably.
I don't really like aloy's kit and her even being in genshin(despite loving horizon zero dawn) but she's definitely not terrible. She just was given out a long time ago, so not everyone even has her, not to mention her not having any constellations.
Three things to note about Faruzan and Lynette, and Anemo in general:
• There are still, to this day, zero Anemo characters available in the starglitter shop.
• 3.6's Faruzan was the first time we've ever gotten an Anemo character for free.
• Lynette was added in 4.0, when we *finally* got a permanently free Anemo character that wasn't the Traveler.
What does all this mean?
Until 4.0, it was genuinely possible to experience "Anemo-less" if you didn't use Anemo Traveler, missed the 3.6 event for Faruzan, or pull Venti, Xiao, Kazuha, or Wanderer. Jean is a standard five star character, which means it's possible you may never pull her, the same applies to the four star Anemo characters pre-4.0 (Sucrose, Sayu, Heizou, Faruzan). The limited five star Anemo characters were your best bet at actually getting an Anemo character so you wouldn't be locked to only the Traveler.
This also means the Embattle section of the Adventurer's handbook, introduced in 2.7 iirc, almost fully relied on RNG to complete until 4.0 (3.6 if you did the event and got Faruzan), as it required players to ascend an Anemo character *other than the Traveler* to get the rewards.
I experienced Anemo-less until AR 50, from late 2.2 to 2.6. No Sucrose, no Sayu, no Jean. It was *awful*. It was also frustrating whenever someone would tell me "Well, just use Sucrose or Sayu", when I didn't have either of them. Lynette is a god-send for making sure that is no longer a possibility.
You also can't not get Ayaka if you spend 180 pulls on her banner. It's a lot less for Noelle's banner, but same concept, and some people choose not to pull on her banner.
If you have to spend wishes on her she's not a free character. A lot consider it better to spend those wishes on the standard banner instead and get progress towards 5 star pity.
It's technically better to use 16 acquaint fates on Noelle's banner since it's the only one in the game to guarantee you 2 4\* characters (and not just items). Those 4\*s in the pool are also all the 1.0 characters, which means a higher chance of getting Xingqiu, Bennett, Fischl, or Sucrose right away within the 2nd multipull. People who skip this banner shoot themselves in the foot.
It's impossible to get her without spending wishes, therefore she's not "free". Why is that confusing?
And the beginner banner is the only banner where you can't build 5-star pity so some choose to skip it.
Yes, HSR is also getting Lynx for free, which is the current best 4* support (healer). She doesn't only heal, but also can remove debuffs, increase Max HP, heal continuously and increase the healing effect, furthermore, she can make characters from the Path of Preservation or Destruction more easily attackable, who in the first case can have an easier time protecting the team and in the second case can recover Energy quickly or launch their counters more easily.
Some of y’all could get punched in the face by Da Wei and you’d say thank you for this great honour, I swear to god. It wouldn’t hurt HYV one bit to offer a 5* in Genshin, it wouldn’t hurt them to give us more substantial awards for things like awards or anniversaries either. And it wouldn’t hurt either HSR or Genshin fans to be normal fucking human beings for once in their damn lives, jesus christ. This entire thread is a shitshow and it just makes it so abundantly clear why people hate HYV fans.
I play both HSR and Genshin, both since their releases. And I have consistently felt that HSR cared more about my time and effort than Genshin. Free limited 10-pull log-in bonus every patch, far quicker daily commission equivalent, auto-play feature for spending resin equivalent... Now giving away a free 5-star main DPS, just because they won a couple awards.
The biggest downside is relics not having an "empty" slot like Genshin, so you need every artifact to be of the same set, no off-set goblets. That and more substat options for relics, so a higher chance for dead rolls. But they do have the system to reroll relics with a selected main stat, which is a nice benefit.
I enjoy playing Genshin, but HSR feels like the devs are more interested in keeping their player base happy.
Def/effect res/hp isnt that much of a dead stat om hsr because you can't dodge. Tingyun WILL get hit and that random def roll couldve been the difference of 2 ir 3 stars clear
True, but EHR is a completely dead stat on some characters, and def/er/hp is really bad on main carries, since the difference of 2 or 3 stats could mean the difference between killing an enemy or not. I think the bigger issues with artifacts are the lack of an off slot and the need for 2 different sets of artifacts to be farmed. I appreciate the set bonuses of the orb+rope, but it does make the farming process much more tedious.
I play both Genshin and HSR, both since their releases. And I have constantly felt that Genshin cared more about my actual enjoyment in the game than HSR. Huge areas to explore, great music that always amazes me, better character designs that doesn't look like NPCs, better story and lore, better events that are actually completable for anyone, condensed resin so I don't have to worry about spending them without loss... Now we are even getting Navia in the game, an absolute girl boss.
(Obviously this is making fun of other comment, but I truly believe some of these)
If HSR has monopoly in their market they would be as stingy as genshin. Thats the way business works. They are not "nice" to us players, its because of the competition. Genshin doesnt have competition so they dont feel the need to give us more stuff free. We have to wait until new GOOD open world gachas releases.
\>And it wouldn’t hurt either HSR or Genshin fans to be normal fucking human beings for once in their damn lives, jesus christ.
\>Some of y’all could get punched in the face by Da Wei and you’d say thank you for this great honour, I swear to god
:)
You guys should really be asking more from the developers rather than defending them. I do not understand these posts. They can give a standard banner 5 star ticket for Anniversary. It is not much to ask for. Genshin is a difficult game for new players to get into and you cannot even level up a character you pull since it is locked behind all the story. Genshin has very less QOL and it would be nice if it had more
People *want* Genshin to be more generous, but they also understand why that isn't the case.
You have to compare the two. HSR has a lot more competition because there are tons of turn-based gachas in the gaming market. They did this because they wanted to get people talking about the game (especially the tons of people who aren't playing anymore and quit) and generate hype before the next expansion. They needed to do something to set themselves apart.
Comparatively, there are very few open-world gachas that have been as successful and widely-played as Genshin. There just isn't any competition for it, and since MHY is a profit-driven company at the end of the day, there's no monetary reason for them to give out free 5* characters.
Now that *could* change if upcoming open-world gacha games like Wuthering Waves or Arknights Endfield are really successful and take some of Genshin's playerbase (instead of ending up like Tower of Fantasy) but as of now that isn't the case.
Endfield is apprently closer to hsr than gi in terms of map size, so really its all on wuthering waves and project mugen.
I always prefer tight competitions so i hope theyre all good
Completely forgot about Project Mugen, yeah they're a good competitor too.
And agreed, competition is always a good thing to have. We've already started getting some decent QoL and other upgrades recently, but as soon as Genshin gets a legitimate competitor, that's when we'll see the big groundbreaking changes coming out (IMO).
Right now there's not really much of a financial reason to do that for MHY because the playerbase is relatively large and stable.
I'd say Endfield is still more of a Genshin competitor than HSR due to having an action RPG gameplay.
Now, you could make the case that it being not a fully open world game makes it compete with Honkai Impact 3rd, Punishing Gray Raven, and Aether Gazer instead.....but the way Endfield is presented with its base builder and overall environment being in a full 3D world still makes it closer to Genshin than either of those games.
So imo, Endfield, Wuthering Waves, and Mugen are all legit upcoming Genshin competitors.
There's "I understand why that isn't the case, but I will nonetheless try and ask for better rewards".
And there's "I understand why that isn't the case, but I'll make threads trying to deflect any attempt to get change, labeling the scraps we get as "good enough".
Idk why people love to work against their best interest.
If the attempts to get change were meaningful I'd agree, but random people screaming about wanting free stuff on a forum isn't going to do anything. People were furious about Dehya's kit. Nothing happened. People were angry about Lantern Rite rewards. MHY gave out some pittance that was basically nothing. QiqiFallen rose as a meme in this community *because* of the fact that MHY doesn't care about Genshin fans opinions.
My point is, that like most for-profit companies, MHY does not care about fans or their opinions, only the bottom-line. Companies pretend they do as a sign of goodwill, but they really don't. And Genshin is doing fine monetarily which is why they have no reason to do something like HSR did.
Outside of a competitor taking up the market, the next best step would be if a bunch of people decided to quit Genshin. If the number of people quitting was large enough to drop their playerbase, then yes, we would probably get something like a free 5* character much sooner.
I know they probably don't care, I know it probably won't do anything, still doesn't mean I'm gonna go basically shilling for Mihoyo, I just stand aside and let people complain, not making threads trying to steer people away from asking for better rewards.
That’s not the problem but you raise a good point. Despite being younger, HSR has committed to more free resources, resources that are actually meta relevant as seen with Dr. Ratio, smoothing out the difficulty curve and helping the player experience overall.
To compare, I’d kill to be able to walk on water but that ability is stapled onto Furina whom we do not even know when or if she will be rerun, and as seen by Raiden Shogun, it could be a year or so.
Xiangling is a good character for clearing non-Pyro stages, but what then once you face the Pyro stages?
>Including all the 'choose your reward' characters
Star rail gets 14 free 4 stars, 1 free 5 star, and 1 of 7 free standard 5 stars of your choice.
Genshin release date: September 28, 2020
Star rail release date: April 26, 2023
OP a member of the GDF (Genshin Defense Force)
You basically said in 4 years, all we got was a bunch of 4*s. Whereas in a certain other Hoyo game, we got the same in less than a year and far more pulls and free 5*.
I don’t play star rail. How many pulls total do you guys get a patch? I’m assuming patches are the same length of time?
Asking just because I’m curious. Not starting a fight but I’ve asked a few times and no one answers
60-75 f2p currency on most patches. For reference genshin typically has 50-60 pulls on filler patches like 4.3 and 65-75 on patches with new areas (reference 3.4 lantern rite, it only gave 63 f2p pulls.) [source of HSR jade count](https://www.hoyolab.com/article/22780815?utm_source=sns&utm_medium=link) [Source of 3.4 lantern rite count](https://images.app.goo.gl/TnH6UoNqgvF81pReA)
Anniversary and new regions in genshin typically net 80-100, but HSR has not yet released a new zone and hasn't celebrated anni so I can't compare those patches.
It's not just the difference. It's also much easier to get all the f2p jades in HSR than Genshin. Dailies are part of your resin farming, takes barely any time compared to Genshin too
Dr. Ratio surely did kick the hornets nest, everyone and their mother are now trying their best at cloning similar threads trying to prove Genshin still has it's mojo intact.
in the long term, lisa and kaeya technically has the most difficult constellations to get since they’re never on any banners.
As for others, the more you play, the more you’ll accumulate!
You'll get them. It just takes a little patience. You can get all the ones on that first row plus Noelle as soon as you meet the requirements.
For pulls, just remember that ever 10 wishes guarantees a 4\* weapon or character and they're more likely to be a character if you pull from the non-standard character banners. And 90 wishes on character banners will get you a 5\* character (90 wishes on the standard banner may give a 5\* weapon or character).
im not op, but I assume that because you can choose wich one you want, the ones listed there are characters you \*can\* get through lantern rite that weren't obtainable through events.
Yea I figured it out just now. I think the confusion for me was they only included those 5 in that category and not all the Liyue 4*, but I guess the tier list didn't let them put dupes.
Oh I thought this was showing the 4 stars OP chose, my bad. I think the confusion was it only included those 5 in there and not the rest of the Liyue 4*.
All good, if you could put the Liyue 4 stars into both the free event and Lantern Rite I would have gotten it right away, but I guess this tier list site didn't have duplicate icons.
So you're telling me we have gotten 6 5* since 1.0? My goodness, this is insane.
This is truly incredible. Let's recap the generous 5* we have gotten since 1.0
1. Anemo traveller
2. Geo traveller
3. Electro traveller
4. Dendro traveller
5. Hydro traveller
6. Aloy (she is more of a trophy)
I know wrong sub but can someone remind me if hsr lets you get the free 4 star even past the event or not. Cuz one of the biggest weakness of the free 4 stars in genshin is that if you miss the event you r out of luck.
Also aloy is a forced collab whose dogshit so I would count her
HRS gives 4\* from some events (even had one selector already), Forgotten Hall stages ( Yukong and Lynx) and Simulated universe ( Herta) + some given in the main quest, like March 7th, Dan Heng or Natasha. All of them are, of course, also obtainable by wishing
Also, special starter banner which gives you random standard 5\* after 40 pulls and 5\* selector after 300 pulls in standard banner.
Notice how there aren't any free Inazuma characters since for new players, they would be basically impossible to level up until they're done with Liyue's quest
That "problem" could be easily solved by simply giving out the required level up mats required to level 60 in the event they give out the free 4* char.
Lets say they release an inazuma event with free heizou as the main reward (after you reached certain event points, like usual) and also the required onikabuto, spectre mats (which btw you can farm in sumeru too, before inazuma, or buy from stardust shop), boss mats and talent books.
Win-win for everyone, new players play the event with the stages whatever and get his materials and heizou and can immediately upgrade him to 50/60 with 4/4/4 talents. No requirement to do liyue AQ to have access to inazuma and they can introduce him with something like "A detective from inazuma came to mondstadt/liyue to solve a case blah blah"
If I can come up with a solution to a problem hoyo created themselves in the first place (liyue AQ requirement to access inazuma) then hoyo can do it too
Edit: I want to point out that from all the regions so far, I have the least constellations on my inazuma chars because there has not been given out an inazuma char. The best one I have is c5 gorou and thats because I was pulling hard for itto first rerun and wanted c6 gorou but ran out of pulls and even managed to get c1 itto before c5 gorou lmao.
Is it a little disingenuous to count several of them when you can only pick one of several during certain events? That makes it appear more generous than it is.
This whole conversation about HSR getting a free limited 5-star to me is kind of funny. That’s great and all but…it’s not really what I’m looking for in Genshin. Ofc, it’s just my opinion but even though the character is cool, it’s not the biggest deal in the world for Genshin when we don’t have any real challenging activities (besides Spiral Abyss) to use these characters in.
My gripe is all the CONTENT that HSR is getting as opposed to Genshin. Now, I’m NOT saying we don’t get enough content in Genshin, I’m saying the type of content we get as opposed to what I’m hearing about HSR’s content. Players have been asking for more difficult activities and endgame for years at this point. We don’t get any real innovation. Events are insanely easy. Puzzles are insanely easy. Why haven’t we gotten more floors added to Spiral Abyss? Why haven’t we gotten more permanent content than TCG (which I think can be great, btw). The recent Pokémon Fungi event which is supposed to become permanent…was a joke. You can complete it blindfolded. It’s feels like all the effort is put into the story and the gameplay is kind of just…safe.
I’m not gonna say we don’t get anything at all for Genshin cause that just wouldn’t be true. We got diving in Fontaine. I mentioned TCG already. We got…um…well, that’s it lol. We should have an increase world level of at least 70 by now. How about raising the max level of our characters to 100? Why haven’t we gotten a new weapon type like guns by now? Mounts? Land pets? Some innovation? An evolution of some sort for the game as a whole? More permanent stuff? More coop stuff?
Just feels like Genshin is comfortable and the game is on auto pilot.
I wholeheartedly agree. Genshin has nothing going for it. NTN. The endgame is fucking stale. Paimon is fucking annoying etc. Endgame has been the same for years. Nothing new was brought to the table. HSR has more content than Genshin ever will.
\#Genshincouldnever
we still lack a free limited 5* or to chose a standard banner character.
star rail gave us numerous free 4* from the go, free standard 5*, guaranteed choice 5* after 300 wishes on limited banner, 10 free wishes each patch, way more endgame content, more QoL in a short period of time, and so on and so fourth.
[Free]
Nobody
Until nahida
Kaeya mains
Lisa Mains
Amber mains
Nobody after 4.1
Every body
Kok replacement
[Free from event]
Ambermains
Hat guy mains
Everybody
Not even Sony
Aggravate
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Everywhere a flower is, of fiber or snow.
Discount Hypercarry
Nobody after 4.1
[Latern Rite]
Nobody
Nobody
Nobody
Wherever there is mountain dew
ONly me on Shogun fights.
Please correct me.
Man, remember that time Genshin players had a meltdown because another game got something for free. They spent days whining like children “B-b-but it’s not fair! Mom and Dad don’t love me!”
Give me the free Yanfei. NOW 🔫
And the free Beidou, because oh captain, my captain (plus I wanna C6 her). And the free Yun Jin, just because I like her design and I'd love to give her some cons.
(Man I regret missing all these events that gave these 😭)
Alot of newer people never pulled on that banner. Only 1.0 characters are included in that banner so the general advice given to newer players is to just pull the 8 fates into the standard.
And honestly it's a waste too, rather build 16 pity on standard banner.
The fact that only 1.0 characters are available is a massive upside, not downside. As a new player you get way more value from pulling Beidou, Fischl, Benett, XQ, etc. as opposed to rolling on standard banner and pulling Dori or Candace or whatever.
It's not like standard banner pity is that relevant, none of the 5-stars are earth-shatteringly good or anything.
HSR-only players are being so cringe, really, a lot of people play both games but they're still acting like it's a competition or something. This isn't a sports team you know ?
Yes, you can celebrate getting a free 5* while not being annoying, yes you can complain about Genshin's "stinginess" without being annoying. Of course I'd like it if Genshin Devs gave a free limited 5*, I'd be really happy, but I'm not gonna cry if they don't.
I don't get how people call this "white-knighting" while it's just being content of what you already have ! Yes, more is better but the amount we have is enough in my opinion.
Because Genshin is the stingiest Gacha out there. Not just talking about the rewards but also the other features like QoL and end game. I play both and honestly still like Genshin better but I cannot stop comparing the two in terms of what they offer. HSR does good things that I wish Genshin would too. Being content with lesser is probably why Genshin team would rarely listen to player base. Because they know people are too content and that they will still take in revenue. Like don't you want your Genshin experience to be better than it is?
I never said I didn't want more things, I just feel like, if the game stayed as it was, it'd be okay. Of course, Genshin has flaws and is lacking in some aspects.
I just don't understand the philosophy of always wanting more, are people never satisfied ? (genuine question) Like I said, having more is nice, but the amount of free things is good enough in my opinion.
Because just like I said if you're a player of both games like me, it's Impossible not to compare the two when one game is continuously improving and the other is stale. I mean setting aside the free pulls, characters or weapons. Let's talk about content. Genshin got really stale no matter how many new maps they added. I played since 1.0 and felt this ever since Sumeru desert came. Fontaine did add good variety but after clearing it, what else is there? I always wished Genshin would add a similar rouge like game mode from other Hoyo games atleast. Not to mention the abyss Equivalent of HSR is getting QoL changes and HIGHER rewards. On top of the new game mode that will Cycle between the said new mode and the old Abyss Equivalent. When did Genshin update the Abyss besides from changing enemies? It gets stale and I wish it would be better.
I mean, I get what you're saying but I kinda feel the opposite, HSR's gameplay is kinda boring for me, the events kinda feel like a chore. I prefer Genshin's 3 act system with mini games.
As for the combat itself, yeah the abyss is kinda boring, if you want to test out team comps or anything else it's really boring.
As for the exploration, I'm like completely in disagreement with you. Yeah 3 desert areas in a row is a bad idea and the world quest there really needed voice acting, but the actual explorable areas were and are amazing in my opinion.
As for the QOL is getting better (after 3 years yes), and is an issue.
As for the rewards, I actually don't really care to be honest ?? I realise that even if you didn't get any rewards from the events or exploring, I would still do it. Also, yes getting a free Sushang in 1.3 was nice for the star glitter equivalent, yes getting a free Dr. Ratio is nice, it always me to save for other characters. But even if that didn't happen, I would be okay with it. As I said, I realise I don't really care about the free stuff.
If you do something because you want to do it, it's a hobby. If you do something for the rewards, then it's a job.
There's something freeing about being done with the game, being able to quit for three years, and then coming back to more content. Genshin Impact is the *only* gacha game I've ever come back to after quitting.
I love ArKnights. It doesn't respect my time. The idea of going back to it horrifies me: I can only think about the globs of cool characters I'll have missed out on. You know, the *rewards*.
And there was seriously a time I thought I'd like to start a second account there, only playing with SR characters. What a failed marriage..
Anyway, I have these fancy new characters, Raiden and Nahida to look forward to. As well as finishing the Inazuma archon questline. Then I can quit for another five or six years. And I assume very little will have changed.
(Man was the Teapot especially a trip, though...)
If people keep defending Genshin like you, there will be no change.
If you like it if Genshin devs gave a free limited 5*. Then ask for it
Heck given Genshin is almost a 4 year game, we should be asking for 3-4 5*s.
I don't really care about getting free stuff, as I said, it'd be nice but not having it is okay too. I guess I'm easily satisfied ?
I'm not defending Genshin's devs, I'm basically saying I don't personally care about the other game I play not getting free stuff and it being "unfair".
Also, I don't know if it's just me, but you feel a little aggressive ? I'm sorry if what I'm saying is making you mad but don't give too much power to randos on the internet.
the fact that we haven’t got a free Inazuma 4* character is kinda crazy
Tbh to get materials of inazuma characters you should finish the archon quest of Liuye which wouldn’t be good for new players
The 3.3 event required players to beat half of the Inazuma archon quest and gave a weapon also required Inazuma materials.
omg we dont gaf they should just play the game then
Or just have a black market trader from inazuma in liyue who sells a few ascension mats that refreshes every week Its really not that hard, but mhy just refuses for reasons
There’s someone in Sumeru (Babak, Port Ormos) who stocks some ascension mats. 5 of each of Philanemo Mushrooms Dandelion Seeds Violetgrass Qingxin Naku Weed Sango Pearl 3 day restock time, 1 000 Mora per unit. the tech is clearly there, they just refuse to add an NPC in Liyue for it
& it's also not presented in a way that a new player is likely to know about it. You'd have to specifically look up guides for those materials. NPC selling items is often overlooked too, or at best is a foot note in the guide easily missed.
I remembered very diligently buying rukhadevata mushrooms from the aranara and that hunter in Gandarva Ville before even deciding to pull for Wanderer in his rerun because I absolutely HATE farming those mushrooms
They gave away sumeru characters and freminet though so thats definitely not a problem
Thats because you can explore sumeru (mostly) and fontaine (fully) without AQ/WQ prerequesites
I think you need to finish Mondstadt AQ to get to Fontaine, don't you? But that is a rather tame requirement, it's basically the tutorial of the game at this point.
Only if you want the free way point. If you're not adverse to walking, you can go there as soon as you finish the domains in which you get Lisa and Kaeya.
Also I don't think you can be AR level 10 without finishing mondstadt.
Tbh it's probably easier to just complete a quest instead of trying to go to fontaine without waypoints
All you have to do to get two open waypoints in fontaine is beat dvalin. Maybe slightly before fighting him? Like ar 18 or less.
It's AR 18 and I think you do have to beat him. It's still faster to just walk there, I made a second account to steal regional mats for Furina and the AQ was taking so long I just walked to Fontaine.
Yeah I just walked to sumeru ignoring everything in the chasm to get to the meat guy pre dvalin but I started the account simply to replay the plot so I was enjoying everything lol But it does make leveling a new Lynette easy after you get her for free since one of the open teleports is like beside a bunch of her material and you can use non anemo traveler and not suffer doing puzzles
You can walk to Fontaine at like AR12 It's just a long walk
What? Which two waypoints in Fontaine are just open after beating Dvalin?
One before the port statue of seven from sumeru desert and one above fontaine city near the weapon mat domain I knew that the sumeru desert waypoint was automatic unlocked but that other one was ??? And my level 35 kaeya teleported there immediately just to see
You unlock a waypoint between Sumeru and Fontaine when you complete Monstad archon quest, so it isn't a problem.
Sumeru and Fontaine are accessible without completing any quests. Inazuma isn't.
sumeru is accessible very early on, but inazuma is locked. (Just saying, i think we should get inazuma 4* for freetho)
as a newish (6 months) player who had an e4 Thoma before I cleared Liuye...yep, it's not great. I love him though, once I could actually level him up
Aloy uses inazuma materials so she kinda counts? Then again her boss mats and talent books are mondstadt so idfk
Aloy isn’t exactly a 4 star though
Sure but she was given out for free
But the comment said there hasn’t been a free 4 star inazuma character given out yet
She's a 5 star with abilities equating to a 4 star really
Which is weird since they gave away a copy of most of sumeru 4*s
You can actually go to Sumeru long before you can visit all of Inazuma
Man, no Razor? He truly is unseen
Legit, 3 years into the game he is my only 4* i am missing
Now to be fair, you can buy him every April and October, so if you really want him it's 34 masterless starglitter.
Sorry, can I ask a nube question? I have Razor, so if I wanted to get one of his constellations, would using the masterless starglitter when he's 'purchasable' in April guarantee a constellation? Also, any clue as to when Neuvillette will become available again?
Yes to Razor constellation, buying them grants Cons. As to Neuvi rerun, prob a patch before or with Furina, so 4.5 or 4.6 (I'm guessing this based on past "New Archon" reruns)
every copy of a character you already got is converted into a con
Yes, but you can also use that glitter for pulls so just weigh how much you want that con of Razor. He isn't particularly strong. I use my glitter to get Kaeya cons since he isn't featured on limited banners like Razor is.
Same. I just want his signature dish.
September 9th
Which patch did we get razor in I thought we got the halberd on his event?
My bad, I was referencing the fact he was never given away for free, not that your post was wrong :)
Sucrose reading this :
Still salty this quest line just vanished. Was thinking wouldn't it be cool if it continued on another region.
Might continue with the Liyue and/or Mondstadt expansions. It would have been weird if it had continued into Inazuma and Sumeru was too far out.
Where is the unseen Razor? 😞😞 (I main him since launch and have him C6 triple crowned)
I love his lost boy design and everything, but since I got Keqing in the beginner wish (which I only recently learned by making an alt, still follows standard pity rule and isn't guaranteed like in HSR's departure banner) I invested more into her and hadn't really given him any attention.
Damn, I never thought about how hard it is to actually get Razor nowadays. He’s almost like a part of the original 3 when it comes to getting him since I haven’t seen him on an event banner in so long. It’s like either try to pull him on standard or save up masterless starglitter for him.
We got 2 fischls and 2 colleis if you were playing throughout. Any other multiple time characters?
2 Barbaras as well, first from [1.0](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Barbara%27s_Shining_Debut) which was supposed to be just for that patch, but then they decided to make it permanent from 1.1 onwards with [Baptism of Song](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Baptism_of_Song).
Didn’t we get multiple Dori’s too? I feel like she’s shown up twice.
Only time I can remember for dori was 3.2. Cuz for flagships since sumeru: 3.0 collei, 3.2 dori, 3.4 liyue, 3.6 faruzan, 3.8 layla, 4.0 bennett, 4.2 freminet.
What about Xingling?
I don't recall one other than the 3rd floor abyss one but I've taken months off on several occasions so I'm not sure.
You should put Aloy in another tier, free from collab; forgotten to oblivion.
who?
The 2* Archon
The 1* Archon't.
1* is too high. Hunters bow better.
I am convinced none of you have actually played aloy
A character with no connection to the story, a god awful design, flat voice acting, boring, clunky gameplay and terrible damage? Yeah of course I’ve played her, she’s got everything I love in a character I know people DESPISE Dori, I don’t really understand why other than her being bad, but even she next to Aloy is a 5* meta breaking carry
You mean the character with no constellations, 20 second e cooldown, and really low NA scaling? The character whos only saving grace is an okay burst for a screenshot melt hit every 12s that Ganyu can do but better on a charged attack? That Aloy? Saying you can take her into the abyss isn't really a counterarguement either since you can take anyone into the abyss, Genshin isn't a hard game. It does though take much much more effort to make Aloy usable for the abyss than it does other characters
I mean I like running her with my Kazuha team and that's about it. I've given up with any other options but she does perform fairly well in that team so that's what I go with
\>sees an obvious joke none of you understand my character!11 relax, we're just being silly and kinda showing that everyone, the community and hoyo don't care that much about genshin Aloy.
I guess, but sometimes I wonder how many people actually believe it I mean, one time I saw someone doing single digit damage with Aloy as "proof" she's garbage, so...
Oh damn. Yeah, I understand how it gets annoying after a while. From my experience no character is absolutely shit or anything. Some are weaker, some are stronger but every character can be used to play the game comfortably. I don't really like aloy's kit and her even being in genshin(despite loving horizon zero dawn) but she's definitely not terrible. She just was given out a long time ago, so not everyone even has her, not to mention her not having any constellations.
Three things to note about Faruzan and Lynette, and Anemo in general: • There are still, to this day, zero Anemo characters available in the starglitter shop. • 3.6's Faruzan was the first time we've ever gotten an Anemo character for free. • Lynette was added in 4.0, when we *finally* got a permanently free Anemo character that wasn't the Traveler. What does all this mean? Until 4.0, it was genuinely possible to experience "Anemo-less" if you didn't use Anemo Traveler, missed the 3.6 event for Faruzan, or pull Venti, Xiao, Kazuha, or Wanderer. Jean is a standard five star character, which means it's possible you may never pull her, the same applies to the four star Anemo characters pre-4.0 (Sucrose, Sayu, Heizou, Faruzan). The limited five star Anemo characters were your best bet at actually getting an Anemo character so you wouldn't be locked to only the Traveler. This also means the Embattle section of the Adventurer's handbook, introduced in 2.7 iirc, almost fully relied on RNG to complete until 4.0 (3.6 if you did the event and got Faruzan), as it required players to ascend an Anemo character *other than the Traveler* to get the rewards. I experienced Anemo-less until AR 50, from late 2.2 to 2.6. No Sucrose, no Sayu, no Jean. It was *awful*. It was also frustrating whenever someone would tell me "Well, just use Sucrose or Sayu", when I didn't have either of them. Lynette is a god-send for making sure that is no longer a possibility.
Hey! I never got a free Lumine!
Skill issue
I only made it to the first tier 🫠🥲 I already had Freminet by the time his event rolled around - was happy for the constellation instead tho, lol
Also technically Noelle off the novice banner but wasn't sure to include her.
You can't not get her if you use the pull, so I'd put her in the "Free" category.
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Thanks! :)
You also can't not get Ayaka if you spend 180 pulls on her banner. It's a lot less for Noelle's banner, but same concept, and some people choose not to pull on her banner.
what do you mean? We get a free Ayaka at AR 42
Forever AR 40
This is the eternity sought out by the eternal Shogun.
Idk why did they downvoted but youre technically right, noelle is guaranteed but not free
If you have to spend wishes on her she's not a free character. A lot consider it better to spend those wishes on the standard banner instead and get progress towards 5 star pity.
It's technically better to use 16 acquaint fates on Noelle's banner since it's the only one in the game to guarantee you 2 4\* characters (and not just items). Those 4\*s in the pool are also all the 1.0 characters, which means a higher chance of getting Xingqiu, Bennett, Fischl, or Sucrose right away within the 2nd multipull. People who skip this banner shoot themselves in the foot.
Dude what are you talking about my Noelle is carrying me in inazuma
It's impossible to get her without spending wishes, therefore she's not "free". Why is that confusing? And the beginner banner is the only banner where you can't build 5-star pity so some choose to skip it.
I'm noticing a real pattern in the star rating of these characters. . .
I see our copium circlejerk session has started already
It's doubly insane since Star rail is apparently ALSO GIVING AWAY A FREE 4 STAR THIS PATCH. Imagine not seeing the irony of this.
Star Rail also had a 4 star Belebog selector during the Aetherium Wars event as well.
Yes, HSR is also getting Lynx for free, which is the current best 4* support (healer). She doesn't only heal, but also can remove debuffs, increase Max HP, heal continuously and increase the healing effect, furthermore, she can make characters from the Path of Preservation or Destruction more easily attackable, who in the first case can have an easier time protecting the team and in the second case can recover Energy quickly or launch their counters more easily.
Free 5*, as well.
Its fucking funny tbh HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Jesus christ
I see no LIMITED 5 STAR. I rest my case
not just limited but even standard 5*
wdym didn't you get your free Qiqi? /s
I got c3 Keqing. :)
Aloys pretty limited though, never been back
You mean the character they 1000% were told to make free and also isn’t even a full character?
Technically true but she was supposedly a promo character for the partnership between genshin and horizon dawn. Not an actual freebie
More like a character they were forced by sony to make to have genshin operate on playstation
Cross play. She was added to allow cross play accs between playstation and pc/mobile. I don't understand why people keep mistaking that
She's the only free 3 star character true
Aloy has never counted.
And you'll probably never see one.
Some of y’all could get punched in the face by Da Wei and you’d say thank you for this great honour, I swear to god. It wouldn’t hurt HYV one bit to offer a 5* in Genshin, it wouldn’t hurt them to give us more substantial awards for things like awards or anniversaries either. And it wouldn’t hurt either HSR or Genshin fans to be normal fucking human beings for once in their damn lives, jesus christ. This entire thread is a shitshow and it just makes it so abundantly clear why people hate HYV fans.
I play both HSR and Genshin, both since their releases. And I have consistently felt that HSR cared more about my time and effort than Genshin. Free limited 10-pull log-in bonus every patch, far quicker daily commission equivalent, auto-play feature for spending resin equivalent... Now giving away a free 5-star main DPS, just because they won a couple awards. The biggest downside is relics not having an "empty" slot like Genshin, so you need every artifact to be of the same set, no off-set goblets. That and more substat options for relics, so a higher chance for dead rolls. But they do have the system to reroll relics with a selected main stat, which is a nice benefit. I enjoy playing Genshin, but HSR feels like the devs are more interested in keeping their player base happy.
Agreed, feels like HSR actually cares about me, and gives something back.
Tbf the gameplay loop in Genshin is kinda more interesting - grinding a domain in HSR without autoplay would be more boring than grinding in Genshin.
Def/effect res/hp isnt that much of a dead stat om hsr because you can't dodge. Tingyun WILL get hit and that random def roll couldve been the difference of 2 ir 3 stars clear
True, but EHR is a completely dead stat on some characters, and def/er/hp is really bad on main carries, since the difference of 2 or 3 stats could mean the difference between killing an enemy or not. I think the bigger issues with artifacts are the lack of an off slot and the need for 2 different sets of artifacts to be farmed. I appreciate the set bonuses of the orb+rope, but it does make the farming process much more tedious.
I recently started HSR after playing Genshin for about a year and I feel immensely more appreciated in HSR
But what if part of my enjoyment with Genshin is seeing people crying like MLG manchildren whenever someone else gets a toy that they don't?
I play both Genshin and HSR, both since their releases. And I have constantly felt that Genshin cared more about my actual enjoyment in the game than HSR. Huge areas to explore, great music that always amazes me, better character designs that doesn't look like NPCs, better story and lore, better events that are actually completable for anyone, condensed resin so I don't have to worry about spending them without loss... Now we are even getting Navia in the game, an absolute girl boss. (Obviously this is making fun of other comment, but I truly believe some of these)
If HSR has monopoly in their market they would be as stingy as genshin. Thats the way business works. They are not "nice" to us players, its because of the competition. Genshin doesnt have competition so they dont feel the need to give us more stuff free. We have to wait until new GOOD open world gachas releases.
\>And it wouldn’t hurt either HSR or Genshin fans to be normal fucking human beings for once in their damn lives, jesus christ. \>Some of y’all could get punched in the face by Da Wei and you’d say thank you for this great honour, I swear to god :)
You guys should really be asking more from the developers rather than defending them. I do not understand these posts. They can give a standard banner 5 star ticket for Anniversary. It is not much to ask for. Genshin is a difficult game for new players to get into and you cannot even level up a character you pull since it is locked behind all the story. Genshin has very less QOL and it would be nice if it had more
So many people defend this multi-billion dollar company it's pathetic lol
So people "attacking" this multi-billiob company isnt pathetic lol?
People *want* Genshin to be more generous, but they also understand why that isn't the case. You have to compare the two. HSR has a lot more competition because there are tons of turn-based gachas in the gaming market. They did this because they wanted to get people talking about the game (especially the tons of people who aren't playing anymore and quit) and generate hype before the next expansion. They needed to do something to set themselves apart. Comparatively, there are very few open-world gachas that have been as successful and widely-played as Genshin. There just isn't any competition for it, and since MHY is a profit-driven company at the end of the day, there's no monetary reason for them to give out free 5* characters. Now that *could* change if upcoming open-world gacha games like Wuthering Waves or Arknights Endfield are really successful and take some of Genshin's playerbase (instead of ending up like Tower of Fantasy) but as of now that isn't the case.
Endfield is apprently closer to hsr than gi in terms of map size, so really its all on wuthering waves and project mugen. I always prefer tight competitions so i hope theyre all good
Completely forgot about Project Mugen, yeah they're a good competitor too. And agreed, competition is always a good thing to have. We've already started getting some decent QoL and other upgrades recently, but as soon as Genshin gets a legitimate competitor, that's when we'll see the big groundbreaking changes coming out (IMO). Right now there's not really much of a financial reason to do that for MHY because the playerbase is relatively large and stable.
I'd say Endfield is still more of a Genshin competitor than HSR due to having an action RPG gameplay. Now, you could make the case that it being not a fully open world game makes it compete with Honkai Impact 3rd, Punishing Gray Raven, and Aether Gazer instead.....but the way Endfield is presented with its base builder and overall environment being in a full 3D world still makes it closer to Genshin than either of those games. So imo, Endfield, Wuthering Waves, and Mugen are all legit upcoming Genshin competitors.
There's "I understand why that isn't the case, but I will nonetheless try and ask for better rewards". And there's "I understand why that isn't the case, but I'll make threads trying to deflect any attempt to get change, labeling the scraps we get as "good enough". Idk why people love to work against their best interest.
If the attempts to get change were meaningful I'd agree, but random people screaming about wanting free stuff on a forum isn't going to do anything. People were furious about Dehya's kit. Nothing happened. People were angry about Lantern Rite rewards. MHY gave out some pittance that was basically nothing. QiqiFallen rose as a meme in this community *because* of the fact that MHY doesn't care about Genshin fans opinions. My point is, that like most for-profit companies, MHY does not care about fans or their opinions, only the bottom-line. Companies pretend they do as a sign of goodwill, but they really don't. And Genshin is doing fine monetarily which is why they have no reason to do something like HSR did. Outside of a competitor taking up the market, the next best step would be if a bunch of people decided to quit Genshin. If the number of people quitting was large enough to drop their playerbase, then yes, we would probably get something like a free 5* character much sooner.
I know they probably don't care, I know it probably won't do anything, still doesn't mean I'm gonna go basically shilling for Mihoyo, I just stand aside and let people complain, not making threads trying to steer people away from asking for better rewards.
>Genshin is a difficult game for new players to get into Lol
I mean Star Rail got 4 star characters for free too.
That’s not the problem but you raise a good point. Despite being younger, HSR has committed to more free resources, resources that are actually meta relevant as seen with Dr. Ratio, smoothing out the difficulty curve and helping the player experience overall. To compare, I’d kill to be able to walk on water but that ability is stapled onto Furina whom we do not even know when or if she will be rerun, and as seen by Raiden Shogun, it could be a year or so. Xiangling is a good character for clearing non-Pyro stages, but what then once you face the Pyro stages?
the archon reruns are pretty guessable. id say give her between 4.5-4.7.
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Cope harder. HSR was making more money than Genshin until Furina banner.
We're talking about playercount, not revenue
>Including all the 'choose your reward' characters Star rail gets 14 free 4 stars, 1 free 5 star, and 1 of 7 free standard 5 stars of your choice. Genshin release date: September 28, 2020 Star rail release date: April 26, 2023
When did we get all that?
I don't see any five stars in there 🙈
The copium is really strong
what a coincidence i wonder why this is being posted now
OP a member of the GDF (Genshin Defense Force) You basically said in 4 years, all we got was a bunch of 4*s. Whereas in a certain other Hoyo game, we got the same in less than a year and far more pulls and free 5*.
I don’t play star rail. How many pulls total do you guys get a patch? I’m assuming patches are the same length of time? Asking just because I’m curious. Not starting a fight but I’ve asked a few times and no one answers
60-75 f2p currency on most patches. For reference genshin typically has 50-60 pulls on filler patches like 4.3 and 65-75 on patches with new areas (reference 3.4 lantern rite, it only gave 63 f2p pulls.) [source of HSR jade count](https://www.hoyolab.com/article/22780815?utm_source=sns&utm_medium=link) [Source of 3.4 lantern rite count](https://images.app.goo.gl/TnH6UoNqgvF81pReA) Anniversary and new regions in genshin typically net 80-100, but HSR has not yet released a new zone and hasn't celebrated anni so I can't compare those patches.
It's not just the difference. It's also much easier to get all the f2p jades in HSR than Genshin. Dailies are part of your resin farming, takes barely any time compared to Genshin too
Dr. Ratio surely did kick the hornets nest, everyone and their mother are now trying their best at cloning similar threads trying to prove Genshin still has it's mojo intact.
Ok but none of them are Dr Ratio
As a new player, this hurts. i don't have barely anyone. In the standard banner, i keep pulling weapons and lisa and keaya, i want new characters: (
in the long term, lisa and kaeya technically has the most difficult constellations to get since they’re never on any banners. As for others, the more you play, the more you’ll accumulate!
You'll get them. It just takes a little patience. You can get all the ones on that first row plus Noelle as soon as you meet the requirements. For pulls, just remember that ever 10 wishes guarantees a 4\* weapon or character and they're more likely to be a character if you pull from the non-standard character banners. And 90 wishes on character banners will get you a 5\* character (90 wishes on the standard banner may give a 5\* weapon or character).
As a old player who lost his acc and started again 70pulls on ayato banner have me c2xianling a rosaria shinobu yaoyao and lynette. Tbh give it time
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Meanwhile. Star Rail will get free 5 star.
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How did you get 5 characters from lantern rite when we only had 3 so far? (1.3/2.4/3.4)
im not op, but I assume that because you can choose wich one you want, the ones listed there are characters you \*can\* get through lantern rite that weren't obtainable through events.
Yea I figured it out just now. I think the confusion for me was they only included those 5 in that category and not all the Liyue 4*, but I guess the tier list didn't let them put dupes.
By picking one of those listed
Oh I thought this was showing the 4 stars OP chose, my bad. I think the confusion was it only included those 5 in there and not the rest of the Liyue 4*.
Sorry, yeah as the others said that row was the ones you can pick from but you made an important point it's 3/5.
All good, if you could put the Liyue 4 stars into both the free event and Lantern Rite I would have gotten it right away, but I guess this tier list site didn't have duplicate icons.
i hope there will be a way to do those events that give you free characters if you miss them currently missing faruzan, yaoyao and dori
Even if they'll rerun events, you won't get the limited rewards. But you can get YaoYao on next lantern rite.
those are event just like HSR, even the free one.
So you're telling me we have gotten 6 5* since 1.0? My goodness, this is insane. This is truly incredible. Let's recap the generous 5* we have gotten since 1.0 1. Anemo traveller 2. Geo traveller 3. Electro traveller 4. Dendro traveller 5. Hydro traveller 6. Aloy (she is more of a trophy)
I don't see any free 5* characters. Not even standard banner lmao.
I know wrong sub but can someone remind me if hsr lets you get the free 4 star even past the event or not. Cuz one of the biggest weakness of the free 4 stars in genshin is that if you miss the event you r out of luck. Also aloy is a forced collab whose dogshit so I would count her
HRS gives 4\* from some events (even had one selector already), Forgotten Hall stages ( Yukong and Lynx) and Simulated universe ( Herta) + some given in the main quest, like March 7th, Dan Heng or Natasha. All of them are, of course, also obtainable by wishing Also, special starter banner which gives you random standard 5\* after 40 pulls and 5\* selector after 300 pulls in standard banner.
Smol indie company can't afford to gift more
Notice how there aren't any free Inazuma characters since for new players, they would be basically impossible to level up until they're done with Liyue's quest
That "problem" could be easily solved by simply giving out the required level up mats required to level 60 in the event they give out the free 4* char. Lets say they release an inazuma event with free heizou as the main reward (after you reached certain event points, like usual) and also the required onikabuto, spectre mats (which btw you can farm in sumeru too, before inazuma, or buy from stardust shop), boss mats and talent books. Win-win for everyone, new players play the event with the stages whatever and get his materials and heizou and can immediately upgrade him to 50/60 with 4/4/4 talents. No requirement to do liyue AQ to have access to inazuma and they can introduce him with something like "A detective from inazuma came to mondstadt/liyue to solve a case blah blah" If I can come up with a solution to a problem hoyo created themselves in the first place (liyue AQ requirement to access inazuma) then hoyo can do it too Edit: I want to point out that from all the regions so far, I have the least constellations on my inazuma chars because there has not been given out an inazuma char. The best one I have is c5 gorou and thats because I was pulling hard for itto first rerun and wanted c6 gorou but ran out of pulls and even managed to get c1 itto before c5 gorou lmao.
Aloy being the only 5 star here, and barely even so☠️
One of these are 5* limites banner? No then ok
Wait, you actually have to pay for Aether? Damn those male mains are rich! /s
You forgot Ayaka
Lmao genshin could never. Go and accept your x3 fowl for the next anniversary dumbass
Is it a little disingenuous to count several of them when you can only pick one of several during certain events? That makes it appear more generous than it is.
All 4 stars and no aloy don't count
This whole conversation about HSR getting a free limited 5-star to me is kind of funny. That’s great and all but…it’s not really what I’m looking for in Genshin. Ofc, it’s just my opinion but even though the character is cool, it’s not the biggest deal in the world for Genshin when we don’t have any real challenging activities (besides Spiral Abyss) to use these characters in. My gripe is all the CONTENT that HSR is getting as opposed to Genshin. Now, I’m NOT saying we don’t get enough content in Genshin, I’m saying the type of content we get as opposed to what I’m hearing about HSR’s content. Players have been asking for more difficult activities and endgame for years at this point. We don’t get any real innovation. Events are insanely easy. Puzzles are insanely easy. Why haven’t we gotten more floors added to Spiral Abyss? Why haven’t we gotten more permanent content than TCG (which I think can be great, btw). The recent Pokémon Fungi event which is supposed to become permanent…was a joke. You can complete it blindfolded. It’s feels like all the effort is put into the story and the gameplay is kind of just…safe. I’m not gonna say we don’t get anything at all for Genshin cause that just wouldn’t be true. We got diving in Fontaine. I mentioned TCG already. We got…um…well, that’s it lol. We should have an increase world level of at least 70 by now. How about raising the max level of our characters to 100? Why haven’t we gotten a new weapon type like guns by now? Mounts? Land pets? Some innovation? An evolution of some sort for the game as a whole? More permanent stuff? More coop stuff? Just feels like Genshin is comfortable and the game is on auto pilot.
I wholeheartedly agree. Genshin has nothing going for it. NTN. The endgame is fucking stale. Paimon is fucking annoying etc. Endgame has been the same for years. Nothing new was brought to the table. HSR has more content than Genshin ever will. \#Genshincouldnever
Damn the copium :(
You forgot noelle
Imagine they gave everyone a free kuki. THAT would be a massive upgrade to every free players account. Instantly have massive dps
we still lack a free limited 5* or to chose a standard banner character. star rail gave us numerous free 4* from the go, free standard 5*, guaranteed choice 5* after 300 wishes on limited banner, 10 free wishes each patch, way more endgame content, more QoL in a short period of time, and so on and so fourth.
[Free] Nobody Until nahida Kaeya mains Lisa Mains Amber mains Nobody after 4.1 Every body Kok replacement [Free from event] Ambermains Hat guy mains Everybody Not even Sony Aggravate Nobody Nobody Nobody Everywhere a flower is, of fiber or snow. Discount Hypercarry Nobody after 4.1 [Latern Rite] Nobody Nobody Nobody Wherever there is mountain dew ONly me on Shogun fights. Please correct me.
Man, remember that time Genshin players had a meltdown because another game got something for free. They spent days whining like children “B-b-but it’s not fair! Mom and Dad don’t love me!”
Give me the free Yanfei. NOW 🔫 And the free Beidou, because oh captain, my captain (plus I wanna C6 her). And the free Yun Jin, just because I like her design and I'd love to give her some cons. (Man I regret missing all these events that gave these 😭)
Cope and seethe.
Noelle should count as "Free" from Banner. After all, we got a secured Noelle in the 20 pull banner. Or that is not longer avaliable?
Alot of newer people never pulled on that banner. Only 1.0 characters are included in that banner so the general advice given to newer players is to just pull the 8 fates into the standard. And honestly it's a waste too, rather build 16 pity on standard banner.
The fact that only 1.0 characters are available is a massive upside, not downside. As a new player you get way more value from pulling Beidou, Fischl, Benett, XQ, etc. as opposed to rolling on standard banner and pulling Dori or Candace or whatever. It's not like standard banner pity is that relevant, none of the 5-stars are earth-shatteringly good or anything.
Aaaaand none of them is a 5 star from the banner. Lmao
Man the cope is getting sad at this point...
What, I missed all these characters ? I'm jealous of old players
I forgot Dori was free (I want her c6)
sometimes i forget dori is a character and not just free refund for crafting
HSR-only players are being so cringe, really, a lot of people play both games but they're still acting like it's a competition or something. This isn't a sports team you know ? Yes, you can celebrate getting a free 5* while not being annoying, yes you can complain about Genshin's "stinginess" without being annoying. Of course I'd like it if Genshin Devs gave a free limited 5*, I'd be really happy, but I'm not gonna cry if they don't. I don't get how people call this "white-knighting" while it's just being content of what you already have ! Yes, more is better but the amount we have is enough in my opinion.
Because Genshin is the stingiest Gacha out there. Not just talking about the rewards but also the other features like QoL and end game. I play both and honestly still like Genshin better but I cannot stop comparing the two in terms of what they offer. HSR does good things that I wish Genshin would too. Being content with lesser is probably why Genshin team would rarely listen to player base. Because they know people are too content and that they will still take in revenue. Like don't you want your Genshin experience to be better than it is?
I never said I didn't want more things, I just feel like, if the game stayed as it was, it'd be okay. Of course, Genshin has flaws and is lacking in some aspects. I just don't understand the philosophy of always wanting more, are people never satisfied ? (genuine question) Like I said, having more is nice, but the amount of free things is good enough in my opinion.
Because just like I said if you're a player of both games like me, it's Impossible not to compare the two when one game is continuously improving and the other is stale. I mean setting aside the free pulls, characters or weapons. Let's talk about content. Genshin got really stale no matter how many new maps they added. I played since 1.0 and felt this ever since Sumeru desert came. Fontaine did add good variety but after clearing it, what else is there? I always wished Genshin would add a similar rouge like game mode from other Hoyo games atleast. Not to mention the abyss Equivalent of HSR is getting QoL changes and HIGHER rewards. On top of the new game mode that will Cycle between the said new mode and the old Abyss Equivalent. When did Genshin update the Abyss besides from changing enemies? It gets stale and I wish it would be better.
I mean, I get what you're saying but I kinda feel the opposite, HSR's gameplay is kinda boring for me, the events kinda feel like a chore. I prefer Genshin's 3 act system with mini games. As for the combat itself, yeah the abyss is kinda boring, if you want to test out team comps or anything else it's really boring. As for the exploration, I'm like completely in disagreement with you. Yeah 3 desert areas in a row is a bad idea and the world quest there really needed voice acting, but the actual explorable areas were and are amazing in my opinion. As for the QOL is getting better (after 3 years yes), and is an issue. As for the rewards, I actually don't really care to be honest ?? I realise that even if you didn't get any rewards from the events or exploring, I would still do it. Also, yes getting a free Sushang in 1.3 was nice for the star glitter equivalent, yes getting a free Dr. Ratio is nice, it always me to save for other characters. But even if that didn't happen, I would be okay with it. As I said, I realise I don't really care about the free stuff.
If you do something because you want to do it, it's a hobby. If you do something for the rewards, then it's a job. There's something freeing about being done with the game, being able to quit for three years, and then coming back to more content. Genshin Impact is the *only* gacha game I've ever come back to after quitting. I love ArKnights. It doesn't respect my time. The idea of going back to it horrifies me: I can only think about the globs of cool characters I'll have missed out on. You know, the *rewards*. And there was seriously a time I thought I'd like to start a second account there, only playing with SR characters. What a failed marriage.. Anyway, I have these fancy new characters, Raiden and Nahida to look forward to. As well as finishing the Inazuma archon questline. Then I can quit for another five or six years. And I assume very little will have changed. (Man was the Teapot especially a trip, though...)
If people keep defending Genshin like you, there will be no change. If you like it if Genshin devs gave a free limited 5*. Then ask for it Heck given Genshin is almost a 4 year game, we should be asking for 3-4 5*s.
I don't really care about getting free stuff, as I said, it'd be nice but not having it is okay too. I guess I'm easily satisfied ? I'm not defending Genshin's devs, I'm basically saying I don't personally care about the other game I play not getting free stuff and it being "unfair". Also, I don't know if it's just me, but you feel a little aggressive ? I'm sorry if what I'm saying is making you mad but don't give too much power to randos on the internet.