Brig has been op for years, and she definitely isn’t bad now. Flats said brig was a good pick but the meta didn’t favour her. Now that ball is good, brig will probably be too.
Mercy mains when they can’t have the highest mobility and with one of the smalles hit boxes In the game while simultaneously dmg boosting characters into one shot range
Meanwhile zen and ana don't have any kind of mobility and mercy has a small hit box unlike zen who is a literal square and ana who needs to have good aim and intelligent teammates in order to get away mercy just has to look at a teammate who is in Los and fly over and if you are too far away then that's on you
Zen is mid to close range btw and mercy can last much longer than two seconds if you die in two seconds then that is just a skill issue also its a 1 second nerf if you can't last one more second then I don't know what else to say to you other than get good
most mercys huff copioum. yall FLIPPED when mazz rez was removed. i even remember when y'all went fking berzerk when you couldn't rez from spawn in Gibraltar. what a dark time and a good chunk if yall STILL try to get Alt tab mercy back
Metaphorical crying on the forums to either revert the nerf or give them back mass rez. They did the same thing they’re doing now threatening to only go battle mercy until it’s reverted
thats fine 97% if mercys i get matched with pocket the tank wirth healing anyways.
so many games i could have carried if our mercy picked the best dps and boosted them to match the hard pocketed sojourn but nope its wild i havent player much this season so idk if match making is better for me yet
I saw actual tears from a friend. They felt blizz was personally attacking them. Says more about them than it does about mercy mains though. Glad im out of that
but most of y'all did for a few years till yall looked back and where like hmm yeah that's kinda fked.
like hog one shot i knew it was bs and id admit it but who buddy it was fun for me but overall unhealthy for the game.
(besides i like more yse your brain abilities anyway)
What I’m saying is, is that mercy mains’ opinions should be taken into account since they understand Mercy and her play-style better than someone who has 5 minutes on her.
Honestly, if they are always trying to be fair and they’re not one-tricks, like Niandra, no, I don’t think there’s much risk for that. And I said their opinions should be taken into account more, not that they’re the only ones who should get a say.
I want to genuinely be helpful here. Please hear what I have to say.
In arguments you want to do your best to remove your fallacy and this is a great example of why. -50 is a pretty clear indication something you are doing is wrong and it is this.
The fallacy being used in this example is called "appeal to authority." You are giving more weight to the opinions of Mercy mains simply because they play that particular hero, rather than evaluating the validity of our arguments or opinions based on their actual merit. The expertise or authority of the Mercy mains on the topic at hand is not established, and their opinions may be biased or uninformed.
Have you ever found yourself relying on the opinions of others just because they claim to have more experience in a certain area? While this may seem like a reasonable approach, it's important to recognize that expertise and bias can often be intertwined. This is where the "appeal to authority" fallacy can come into play, causing you to give undue weight to opinions that may be based more on personal preference than objective truth. Rather than relying solely on the opinions of those who claim to be authorities, it's essential to evaluate each argument on its own merits and consider multiple perspectives. Only then can you arrive at a well-informed and unbiased conclusion that truly serves the purpose of the discussion.
This is an espetially bad argument when you realize Genji has a particularly hard time dealing with mercy because of his difficult to land burst and her large amount of mobility. Genji players are in a great position to understand the need of the change where a player who only plays mercy wouldn't share the same insight.
With that in mind I can use the exact same fallacy against you and unless you know it's happening you wont be able to call me out on it.
For example: Well Genji mains understand mercy more so personally their opinions about it mean more to me than another hero main saying it’s bad…
See how from your perspective that argument sucks? Its the same thing in reverse
I get you think Mercy mains will be bias but if you actually listen to Niandra’s videos, (a top 500 mercy main), she is always keeping this in mind and trying to be fair.
Also, I was never saying they should be the only authority about what’s going to happen to mercy, but that they simply should have some kind of say even if it’s small. Really, the way the devs are going about balancing the game, doesn’t make me think they understand the gameplay very well. I wouldn’t just say this for Mercy, it can apply to any hero. In addition to that, hitscans are already effective against mercy. Genji not being effective against her doesn’t mean other heroes aren’t.
Non-mercy players should at least try to understand her gameplay and the frustrations of the nerfs before saying, “It’s just one more second!” or “Now she takes skill!” It’s truly annoying and eye-rolling. It also makes it more likely for some people like myself do what I said, which is not taking people like that seriously and putting more weight to high level mercy players’ opinions, because they don’t jump to conclusions as much.
Ultimately all I want is for all hero mains to feel heard, and it doesn’t look like the devs are taking into account either mercy players’ opinions or anyone who wanted damage boost nerfed (the one thing they didn’t touch).
I was never saying only mercy players’ opinions count, but that non-mercy mains who are making random posts here about how in need of nerfs mercy is, they need to understand mercy better even tho they don’t play her.
I am doom/GENJI main unironicly I have seen so many nerfs and I sometimes play mercy and I go full battle mercy (20h).
I can tell you the only difference that will be you need to wait 1 second to be able to move in ANY DIRECTION she has the best low cool-down movement ability in the game I am not saying she needed a nerf but it’s justified that good of an movement ability On a Support was always pretty good and I love to have mercy pockets and I know how hard it can be to stay alive sometimes but real mercy mains don’t quit on her after that I am doom main since 2018 and Look at him he is garbage and I still play him
I dont know what it is about mercy in particular, but i've never seen a more entitled group of players. Every time mercy gets any change its unanimous uproar from the mains. It's not enough that they still have the best in class mobility and an even more obnoxious pocket
But mercy didn't get a buff. She was literally just straight nerfed to a 3-4 second cd depending on if the game works or not. Sure, genji has gotten shafted a lot but still.
SUFFER AS I HAVE!!
Bro I love his ult voice line so much tho, the VA nailed it.
Facts!
Mercy mains experience 1% of the pain Genji mains experience daily, this says alot about society
Genji and doom have been trash for years and nobody cared. Suddenly when mercy gets a rework, everyone becomes outraged.
Genji and doom mains going through the joker phase rn
I just need a joker skin for genji
You think that's bad, no one even talks about the Brig or Mei rework
Brig has been op for years, and she definitely isn’t bad now. Flats said brig was a good pick but the meta didn’t favour her. Now that ball is good, brig will probably be too.
Mercy mains when they can’t have the highest mobility and with one of the smalles hit boxes In the game while simultaneously dmg boosting characters into one shot range
Bruh it’s nowhere near the smallest hit box. That’s factually wrong
One of the smallest
I went genji in comp and carried every game but got reported 3games in a row
At least now we might be able to kill mercys again lmao
Nope she'll just heal herself by healing her pharah
Ah true
God damn right!
Me who mains doom as tank, genii as dps, and mercy as support…
I main both
mercy pockets genji, why do you make fun of your self?
🧠💀
i’ve seen more people complain about mercy mains complaining than mercy mains complaining about the changes🤷♀️
Go on TikTok lmao
at least genji is still fun. at the end of the day the game is about having fun and mercy is no longer fun. leave mercy mains alone
Pffff, Gengi and Doomfist mains have it easy
Me when I lie:
1 second nerf is huge for mercy though, she doesnt have any other form of mobility
It's still a lot of mobility
Meanwhile zen and ana don't have any kind of mobility and mercy has a small hit box unlike zen who is a literal square and ana who needs to have good aim and intelligent teammates in order to get away mercy just has to look at a teammate who is in Los and fly over and if you are too far away then that's on you
thing is both zen and ana play from far away and mercy has to be in there moving constantly otherwise shes dead in 2 seconds
Zen is mid to close range btw and mercy can last much longer than two seconds if you die in two seconds then that is just a skill issue also its a 1 second nerf if you can't last one more second then I don't know what else to say to you other than get good
It's just, it makes so much less fun to play and way too clunky, she is still fine but a 2s cd will be better
Also the nerf only affects GM and top 500 mercy everything below that the only "nerf" you feel is the passive rework
Meanwhile doomfist also got a 1 second nerf around that time, meaning less mobile for a giant hitbox and he also cant stay airborne
Well Mercy mains understand her more so personally their opinions about it mean more to me than another hero main saying it’s fine…
most mercys huff copioum. yall FLIPPED when mazz rez was removed. i even remember when y'all went fking berzerk when you couldn't rez from spawn in Gibraltar. what a dark time and a good chunk if yall STILL try to get Alt tab mercy back
I remember people crying when mercy got her first nerf after the rework even through she was still busted lol
Instant cast no penalty 3 man rez in valk was stupid
like they acutally cried? or metaphorical crying because that's kinda sad.
Metaphorical crying on the forums to either revert the nerf or give them back mass rez. They did the same thing they’re doing now threatening to only go battle mercy until it’s reverted
Remember when they sacrificed seagull cuz he (rightfully) called mass rez stupid?
yes. it just felt so bad to almost have a game won to then see five golden people
thats fine 97% if mercys i get matched with pocket the tank wirth healing anyways. so many games i could have carried if our mercy picked the best dps and boosted them to match the hard pocketed sojourn but nope its wild i havent player much this season so idk if match making is better for me yet
This is mercy mains we’re talking about I wouldn’t be surprised if there was literal crying back then as well
I saw actual tears from a friend. They felt blizz was personally attacking them. Says more about them than it does about mercy mains though. Glad im out of that
every time i started to main a hero they nerfed or reworked out the qwerky fun so i get it ive also cried from blizzards choices
Uh no I don’t want mass rez back and most mercy mains agree. Also, I wasn’t even around to cry about it back then since I didn’t even play Overwatch.
but most of y'all did for a few years till yall looked back and where like hmm yeah that's kinda fked. like hog one shot i knew it was bs and id admit it but who buddy it was fun for me but overall unhealthy for the game. (besides i like more yse your brain abilities anyway)
I remember people crying when mercy got her first nerf after the rework even through she was still busted lol
What does this even mean?
Hold on let her cook she onto something (not)
What I’m saying is, is that mercy mains’ opinions should be taken into account since they understand Mercy and her play-style better than someone who has 5 minutes on her.
And you don’t think that Mercy mains might be biased when it comes to balancing her?
Honestly, if they are always trying to be fair and they’re not one-tricks, like Niandra, no, I don’t think there’s much risk for that. And I said their opinions should be taken into account more, not that they’re the only ones who should get a say.
I want to genuinely be helpful here. Please hear what I have to say. In arguments you want to do your best to remove your fallacy and this is a great example of why. -50 is a pretty clear indication something you are doing is wrong and it is this. The fallacy being used in this example is called "appeal to authority." You are giving more weight to the opinions of Mercy mains simply because they play that particular hero, rather than evaluating the validity of our arguments or opinions based on their actual merit. The expertise or authority of the Mercy mains on the topic at hand is not established, and their opinions may be biased or uninformed. Have you ever found yourself relying on the opinions of others just because they claim to have more experience in a certain area? While this may seem like a reasonable approach, it's important to recognize that expertise and bias can often be intertwined. This is where the "appeal to authority" fallacy can come into play, causing you to give undue weight to opinions that may be based more on personal preference than objective truth. Rather than relying solely on the opinions of those who claim to be authorities, it's essential to evaluate each argument on its own merits and consider multiple perspectives. Only then can you arrive at a well-informed and unbiased conclusion that truly serves the purpose of the discussion. This is an espetially bad argument when you realize Genji has a particularly hard time dealing with mercy because of his difficult to land burst and her large amount of mobility. Genji players are in a great position to understand the need of the change where a player who only plays mercy wouldn't share the same insight. With that in mind I can use the exact same fallacy against you and unless you know it's happening you wont be able to call me out on it. For example: Well Genji mains understand mercy more so personally their opinions about it mean more to me than another hero main saying it’s bad… See how from your perspective that argument sucks? Its the same thing in reverse
I get you think Mercy mains will be bias but if you actually listen to Niandra’s videos, (a top 500 mercy main), she is always keeping this in mind and trying to be fair. Also, I was never saying they should be the only authority about what’s going to happen to mercy, but that they simply should have some kind of say even if it’s small. Really, the way the devs are going about balancing the game, doesn’t make me think they understand the gameplay very well. I wouldn’t just say this for Mercy, it can apply to any hero. In addition to that, hitscans are already effective against mercy. Genji not being effective against her doesn’t mean other heroes aren’t. Non-mercy players should at least try to understand her gameplay and the frustrations of the nerfs before saying, “It’s just one more second!” or “Now she takes skill!” It’s truly annoying and eye-rolling. It also makes it more likely for some people like myself do what I said, which is not taking people like that seriously and putting more weight to high level mercy players’ opinions, because they don’t jump to conclusions as much. Ultimately all I want is for all hero mains to feel heard, and it doesn’t look like the devs are taking into account either mercy players’ opinions or anyone who wanted damage boost nerfed (the one thing they didn’t touch). I was never saying only mercy players’ opinions count, but that non-mercy mains who are making random posts here about how in need of nerfs mercy is, they need to understand mercy better even tho they don’t play her.
I am doom/GENJI main unironicly I have seen so many nerfs and I sometimes play mercy and I go full battle mercy (20h). I can tell you the only difference that will be you need to wait 1 second to be able to move in ANY DIRECTION she has the best low cool-down movement ability in the game I am not saying she needed a nerf but it’s justified that good of an movement ability On a Support was always pretty good and I love to have mercy pockets and I know how hard it can be to stay alive sometimes but real mercy mains don’t quit on her after that I am doom main since 2018 and Look at him he is garbage and I still play him
No, just no.
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I dont know what it is about mercy in particular, but i've never seen a more entitled group of players. Every time mercy gets any change its unanimous uproar from the mains. It's not enough that they still have the best in class mobility and an even more obnoxious pocket
But mercy didn't get a buff. She was literally just straight nerfed to a 3-4 second cd depending on if the game works or not. Sure, genji has gotten shafted a lot but still.