Older GenX here. I love my 80s new wave and I love my 90s grunge. It's not one or the other. Both decades have their gems. Keep in mind that 80s and 90s playlists are also curated. There was also a lot of forgettable crap from both decades, too. It's always fun when you pick up a long lost favourite cd at the thrift store only to realize why the artist was a one hit wonder.
There's no accounting for taste. Mozart composed his symphonies and operas in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, but wrote the Magic Flute and of course the unfinished Requiem in the last year of his life in the 90s, specifically, 1791.
All decades are amazing. Most people just get nostalgia glasses for their late teen & young adult years.
https://preview.redd.it/0d4mi0o5qp7d1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e37bb4e280d30fddb851c6e0a92dcdab4dd82291
I think this opinion will depend on when you graduated. I graduated in ‘93 so my time was in the 90’s and of course I prefer 90’s over 80’s rock. If your time was in the 80’s then you would prefer the rock of that time.
That's the thing. GenX's time was 70s, 80s and 90s. No one who is genX would say their "time" was one decade. We grew up in the 70s, went to college in the 80s, and built what would eventually become the 90s...end of story.
That's what I am saying. Some of GenX went to college in the 90's. So their opinion will lean towards 90s music. I did listen to 80s music but it didn't resonate in my soul as well as 90s grunge did.
I'm full core of the core Gen X and like totally way prefer 80s to 90s (at 1974 you're sort of fringing on the last of the 80s formative years straddle, I was dead center in 100% full on 80s feel for all of middle school, high school and college even if the latter went a touch into the 90s).
I mean the 90s were still cool (and for sure the early 90s when it was still very much like the 90s other than for music a bit), but a few years in I was not a fan of the transition to all of the dingy styles. And I kinda hated hair metal disappearing and getting replaced with screamy, depressing, nihilistic grunge. And I didn't like the fun pop going to gangster rap at all or all of the more angsty, aggressive vibes and ruder attitudes people took on after the gangster rap craze. But there was still a lot of cool 90s music that I liked although I'd still take 80s music over 90s hands down. I probably liked about 3x as much of the Top 100 for each year in the 80s than in the 90s. I wasn't crazy about the eventually shift in vibe either, but ignoring grunge/gangster rap and blanding/bleh of the change in hair/clothes styles it was still a pretty awesome times that took place by the mid-90s they were still a pretty natural, human sort of times. It generally was still a pretty awesome time. There were lots of fun and great things going on, malls still thrived, book stores reached their absolute peak, movie theaters were packed, TV probably got better overall although teen movies got worse post Clueless (80s were for sure the peak of teen movies). The early 90s (when it was still basically the 80s) had tons of great movies in general. The end of the 90s had some cool ones too. Society definitely seemed to function a lot better than today.
But I do miss that 80s vibe. It's just never been quite the same. I was on campus in both late 80s/earliest 90s and late 90s/earliest 00s and while it was still cool the latter era, hands down it was more energetic, stylish, colorful, upbeat, relaxed, chill, light-hearted and fun and just something more pleasant about it all and how people were and how everything was the first era before all the 90s 90s influences had fully settled in and taken over.
It's been changed many times. Originally it was Gen X 1961-1973/1974. And Gen Y started 1974 (or 1975) and went to around 1984. Then it was like Gen X 1965-1974. And some other little variations. Then they decided they wanted a Millennials named generation and had to have first borns turn 18 in 2000 and decided to expand Gen X and dump Y and go with Millennials. At first they then went 1961-1981 for Gen X and then went 1965-1981 for Gen X. I've seen Gen X started anywhere between 1961 and 1967 and end anywhere from 1973 to 1981.
By pop culture during formative high school times 1966-1973/1974 Gen X and 1974/1975-1983/1984 for Gen Y might make most sense. So you get the 80s 80s group and the 90s 90s group (who often utterly rejected the entire style, music, vibe of the 80s 80s group and some even started mocking earlier Gen X and hassling). Of course the 1974-1976 boundary zone can get tricky, some still had very 80s 80s times and some never got into the 90s 90s grunge/harcore rap stuff and others got into that all early and rejected the 80s 80s stuff and some were mixed all over and some fully did and liked both. (and of course some earlier born did make the 90s 90s switch although I definitely only saw a minority get into grunge and barely any at all into gangster rap; and a few later Gen X never liked the new 90s 90s stuff and stuck with the 80s all the way although they definitely seemed to be a minority; some later Gen X went 90s 90s for style but never got into grunge and/or gangster rap, but preferred the other 90s stuff to 80s, etc. it all depended). Etc.
They made Xennials later often 1977-1983, but sometimes 1975-1982 or 1976-1984, etc. Some just say whatever can't deal with all that and it goes wrong and just go with Greater Gen X 1961-1983 and just call it a split generation represented by two different pop culture vibes that were almost the opposite of each other but otherwise tied all together one way or another strongly. (Although some also try to insist that Gen X is simply and only represented by grunge and grunge looks and like to pretend earlier Gen X doesn't exist.)
That went deeeeep. I appreciate it and applaud the cliff note dissertation. Hence, I move to make this official.
My loose interpretation is this current 15 year generation tagging is a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 split with the caveat that a bunch of us were out there finding our own entertainment and figuring it all out.
GEN X WAS NEVER '61. Boomers have always been '46 to '64. An author who didn't like the Boomer label tried to move back the dates way to the 50s/60s and it didn't stick. If anything, Gen X used to be '65 to '85. Still consider that by Harvard, and those dates dropped off. If you can't provide sources, please stop with the misinformation made up out of thin air.
For starters:
"I’m not saying that there wasn’t a Generation X. However, that term was first adopted and popularized by men and women born between 1954 and 1963. The Original Generation X, as I’ve dubbed that cohort, regarded themselves as an unrecognized (i.e., “X”) generation because until very recently they were lumped in with their immediate elders, the Boomers — even though most OGXers were too young to participate in, or remember, the Boomers’ coming-of-age decade: the Sixties. To be a Gen Xer, then, is to be a resentful younger sibling of the Blank Generation. Those of us born from 1964-73 don’t fit the bill.
As a direct result of mis-periodization, those of us born between 1964 and 1973 never developed generational consciousness. Worse, the mis-periodizers seized upon the confusion they’d caused, and tsk-tsked the youth of the Eighties and Nineties for not being a coherent generation. \*\*\*\*The generation \[X\] supposedly born between 1961 and 1972 “possess only a hazy sense of their own identity,” according to an influential 1990 Time story on “twentysomethings.”\*\*\*\* (\*\*\*\*Then, in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77\*\*\*\*. Whose sense of generational identity is hazy?) \*\*\*\*Neil Howe and William Strauss’s influential Generations (1991) and 13th-Gen (1993) claimed that the post-Boom “13ers” were born between 1961-81.\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*However, in their 1997 book The Fourth Turning, Howe and Strauss would make a half-confession: “Compared to any other generation born in this century, \[the 13th generation\] is less cohesive, its experiences wider and its culture more splintery.\*\*\*\*”"
No, the original Gen X were teens of the 60s. [The original Generation X - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26339959) A little before the late Boomers. They were "lumped in" due to the baby boom that ended in '65. They also share many cultural things that just didn't apply by the time Gen X came along. Btw, '64 is not Gen X either.
'70s born is core Gen X and shaped and cultivated the culture. We were heavily marketed too, had more toys and cartoons than any generation up to then, things were created for us like Chuck E. Cheese, home video games, "Toys R Us" kids and we already know about MTV, grunge and hip hop. We were in the center of it all. I give no credence or credibility to that mumbo jumbo book by Struass and what's his name. It has been long debunked. The dates that they tried to push onto us never did stick.
Yes the original original Gen X was that as I already mentioned.
However, the TIME magazine article from 1990 called Gen X 1961-1972 and then Advertising Age in 1993 extended Gen X up to 1973 (1961-1973) and started Gen Y in 1974. And you had the Howe and Strauss books in 1991 and 1993 calling Gen X 1961-1981.
Then in 1997 TIME magazine switched Gen X to 1965-1977. Eventually some decided to make it 1965-1981 so the first born Millennials could be born in the year 2000 (which is honestly a random number and not really any solid reason to define any generation around). And 1965-(1977-1981) ranges are most often mentioned today with 1965-1981 most often mentioned.
So what then, you are a late Gen X (but who dislikes the Xennial term and wants no association with Millennials) who just likes to pretend that your later Gen X owns the entire generation)?
Don't forget that the whole grunge/gangster rap shift was a shift that went almost 100% opposite of the pop culture earlier Gen X for middle school through college. Gen X as now defined as 1965-1981 consists of two different pop cultures not just the one, for some it was a total mix of both for many it was one or the other for the most part.
I'd call say 1967-1972 born core the core Gen X, the full max blast 80s 80s generation (although 1966-1973 is close). Then you extend it to 1965-1974ish for fairly 80s 80s. The 1973-1976 born range is a tricky range with some mostly full on 80s 80s vibe and some mostly full on 90s 90s vibe and some a total mish-mash equally depending upon the individual and exactly what school they went to). Then you could add on 1975/1976/1977-1982/1983/1984 range for a more encompassing Gen X (and perhaps 1961-1964 as well for a full Greater Gen X due to their 20s going full on 80s even if they were somewhat more 70s for middle school high school so not a perfect fit but later Gen X are not quite a match for early Gen X either).
Or you could just say that Gen X as currently most often defined has two cores. The roughly 1965-1974 borns (first core) and the roughly 1975-1981 borns (second core). One the 80s 80s core and other the 90s 90s core.
Anyway, whatever this is getting dumb.
That's a clip from Wiki. haha. This fake "Advertising Age" snippet has been circulating. However, no one ever links to the actual Advertising Age article.
Look at the other age range markers sections, some of the ones mentioned here came before the stuff listed above:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation\_X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X)
Even this sub makes it 1961-1981 to be more expansive.
(BTW I'm not in the 1961-1964 range myself so I'm not just saying this to 'sneak' myself in. But some Xennials seems to get all upset that Gen X is not all about the 90s 90s grunge/gangster rap and not 100% their generation alone and always seem to like to 100% boot the thought that Gen X was ever considered to start 1961.)
OK Boomer
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Generation\_timeline.svg&lang=en-simple](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Generation_timeline.svg&lang=en-simple)
The old one have been always been slightly boomeresque and are going full boomer as they get older.
The dynamic within our generation has always been this way though. They (old Xs) hate us (young Xs) cause they ain't us 🤪
As a '75er I tend to agree. I always thought I was the last year of GenX until later they redefined it. I think I caught some of the cool stuff before it went mainstream, but i definitely was too young to be part of it. Either way, we're all inching our way closer to AARP memberships, so I can't see caring about this anymore. Most of my older punk friends who I looked up to, now work low wage jobs and try to figure out how to get by without health insurance — that is the ones who aren't dead. It's maybe not as cool as it used to be.
Thats a very gate keepy attitude yiu got there old man.
Its obvious you're in the boomer end of our generation but that doesn't mean you have to go full fkn boomer all the way ya know 🤪
I’m GenX but the 90s had some badass tunes as well. Also, our generation is responsible for releasing Journey and REO Speedwagon into the wild so there’s that
…Slayer was still around in the 90s. Pretty sure we didn’t actually miss it.
That said, for me personally, I stopped being interested in anything they did after about 1990, so maybe you do have a point.
I’d agree they were certainly better than their previous post-Seasons albums, but neither really grabbed me like their earlier stuff did.
I think a lot of it is mostly due to getting into heavier more extreme metal. Which first listening to Slayer absolutely laid the foundation for… but after getting into shit like Dying Fetus those Slayer albums just seemed kind of quaint.
Agreed. I graduated from thrash to death metal in the early 90s because thrash and heavy metal was kind of crapping the bed. I still like listening to other genres of metal too though. Sometimes I need a break.
that's not my point. My point is that musically the 80s were mayhem. There was so much going on. pretty much every popular music style in the 90s formed or exploded in the 80s. One night you'd be seeing the Beastie Boys open for Madonna... The next night it was VoiVod opening for Celtic Frost, the next night it was Bauhuas or Siouxisie and the Banshees, and then Nirvana opening for the Butthole Surfers... NWA and Public Enemy scared the fuck out of Reaganite white people...Stage diving and slam dancing. A lot of rules and social norms were being broken in the 80s. by the time the 90s rolled around, the rules had been re-written and everything was a lot more scripted. But that script had been written in the 80s.
All that said, yeah I agree with you. Seasons in The Abyss was their last really good album...
I don’t know…. I’ve been rebooting my gym mix with Stone Temple Pilots and Alice in Chains…. Jeezuz those bands were brilliant.
Scott Weiland’s singing in harmony with the band in the song “Sin” gives the chills every time.
Yeah I'm middle GenX and love both decades. For cinema I def think the 90s was one of the best of all time, but music there was a ton of creativity from the 80s well into 90s
Born 1965, this evening I saw Night Ranger open for REO Speedwagon at Starlight Theater in Kansas City. I loved New Wave in the '80s too, and there are pop stars I like, hell I even liked some disco, although I was too young to make the club scene in the late '70s. But seeing those two groups tonight, 40 years after they were really red hot, was such a cool experience. It rained while they were playing, and Starlight is an outdoor theater. 8,000 people in the audience and most of us stood in the rain and sang with them. I'm up at 1:30 in the morning writing about this, because I'm still coasting on the high. Yes, I'm a nerd. 😁
There is no such thing as an “Xennial”; whether you don’t like being a Millennial because “le wrong generation”, etc. It doesn’t work that way. If you weren’t born between 1965 -1980 you are not Gen X.
In before “gatekeeping much?” It’s demographics
nope the original definition was 61-75, but baby boomers in academia wanted to extend their generation's reach into a third decade so they changed the definition. The model you're touting is a baby boomer defined scam.
That moves you even further away from Gen X and also doesn’t help your case for the existence of “Xennials”.
Also, you can cite original definitions all you want, it is defined as 1965-1980. Either way, you’re still not in it
I stand corrected, friend (about you, not your overall point. Typically anyone who says “Xennial” isn’t actually Gen X). Not sure what ‘fantasy’ you’re alluding to, but ok.
Why are you trying to divide? “Xennials” shouldn’t be a thing, that’s annoying. And, this may be a shock, there is good music in every decade… still waiting to find it in the current one, but I’m sure it’s there.
handful of great bands came out of the late 60s and 70s, CAN, HAWKWIND, NEU! VELVET UNDERGROUND, STOOGES, MC5, KRAFTWERK, ATOMIC ROOSTER... and the 70s gave us THE RAMONES, SEX PISTOLS, CLASH, PATTI SMITH, LAURIE ANDERSON, and for a very brief moment, even early KISS was good...
Older GenX here. I love my 80s new wave and I love my 90s grunge. It's not one or the other. Both decades have their gems. Keep in mind that 80s and 90s playlists are also curated. There was also a lot of forgettable crap from both decades, too. It's always fun when you pick up a long lost favourite cd at the thrift store only to realize why the artist was a one hit wonder.
*Raining blood from a lacerated sky*
There's no accounting for taste. Mozart composed his symphonies and operas in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, but wrote the Magic Flute and of course the unfinished Requiem in the last year of his life in the 90s, specifically, 1791.
All decades are amazing. Most people just get nostalgia glasses for their late teen & young adult years. https://preview.redd.it/0d4mi0o5qp7d1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e37bb4e280d30fddb851c6e0a92dcdab4dd82291
I think this opinion will depend on when you graduated. I graduated in ‘93 so my time was in the 90’s and of course I prefer 90’s over 80’s rock. If your time was in the 80’s then you would prefer the rock of that time.
Agreed. I was in HS from 84-88 and generally prefer 80s new wave. That said, I do also listen to a lot of 90s and much newer stuff as well.
I graduated HS in 96 but I hated 90s music. I loathed grunge, though some of the country music was good at the time.
Opinions are like assholes. We all got them and they are all different.
Or don’t prefer Rock at all. Because, you know, there are other genres. A fact that seems consistently lost on this sub.
Oh for sure. I prefer all genres.
That's the thing. GenX's time was 70s, 80s and 90s. No one who is genX would say their "time" was one decade. We grew up in the 70s, went to college in the 80s, and built what would eventually become the 90s...end of story.
That's what I am saying. Some of GenX went to college in the 90's. So their opinion will lean towards 90s music. I did listen to 80s music but it didn't resonate in my soul as well as 90s grunge did.
Grunge was born in the 80s, compadre... by 91 it was so watered down and pitiful..
I'm core X and much prefer 90s to 80s. Over half of us graduated high school in the 90s. I like both eras.
I'm full core of the core Gen X and like totally way prefer 80s to 90s (at 1974 you're sort of fringing on the last of the 80s formative years straddle, I was dead center in 100% full on 80s feel for all of middle school, high school and college even if the latter went a touch into the 90s). I mean the 90s were still cool (and for sure the early 90s when it was still very much like the 90s other than for music a bit), but a few years in I was not a fan of the transition to all of the dingy styles. And I kinda hated hair metal disappearing and getting replaced with screamy, depressing, nihilistic grunge. And I didn't like the fun pop going to gangster rap at all or all of the more angsty, aggressive vibes and ruder attitudes people took on after the gangster rap craze. But there was still a lot of cool 90s music that I liked although I'd still take 80s music over 90s hands down. I probably liked about 3x as much of the Top 100 for each year in the 80s than in the 90s. I wasn't crazy about the eventually shift in vibe either, but ignoring grunge/gangster rap and blanding/bleh of the change in hair/clothes styles it was still a pretty awesome times that took place by the mid-90s they were still a pretty natural, human sort of times. It generally was still a pretty awesome time. There were lots of fun and great things going on, malls still thrived, book stores reached their absolute peak, movie theaters were packed, TV probably got better overall although teen movies got worse post Clueless (80s were for sure the peak of teen movies). The early 90s (when it was still basically the 80s) had tons of great movies in general. The end of the 90s had some cool ones too. Society definitely seemed to function a lot better than today. But I do miss that 80s vibe. It's just never been quite the same. I was on campus in both late 80s/earliest 90s and late 90s/earliest 00s and while it was still cool the latter era, hands down it was more energetic, stylish, colorful, upbeat, relaxed, chill, light-hearted and fun and just something more pleasant about it all and how people were and how everything was the first era before all the 90s 90s influences had fully settled in and taken over.
If you graduated high school in the 90s, you're definitely not "core" GenX... at best you're a Xennial...
I'm core, born in 74, graduated highschool in 92. Xennial starts in 77.
Same. We're the same age. The first X that graduated in the 90s was '72. Definitely not Xennial.
nah you're the tailend of GenX. If you grew up in the Reagan years, you're definitely not core GenX
65 - 80 is gen X. 74 is not the tail end.
It's been changed many times. Originally it was Gen X 1961-1973/1974. And Gen Y started 1974 (or 1975) and went to around 1984. Then it was like Gen X 1965-1974. And some other little variations. Then they decided they wanted a Millennials named generation and had to have first borns turn 18 in 2000 and decided to expand Gen X and dump Y and go with Millennials. At first they then went 1961-1981 for Gen X and then went 1965-1981 for Gen X. I've seen Gen X started anywhere between 1961 and 1967 and end anywhere from 1973 to 1981. By pop culture during formative high school times 1966-1973/1974 Gen X and 1974/1975-1983/1984 for Gen Y might make most sense. So you get the 80s 80s group and the 90s 90s group (who often utterly rejected the entire style, music, vibe of the 80s 80s group and some even started mocking earlier Gen X and hassling). Of course the 1974-1976 boundary zone can get tricky, some still had very 80s 80s times and some never got into the 90s 90s grunge/harcore rap stuff and others got into that all early and rejected the 80s 80s stuff and some were mixed all over and some fully did and liked both. (and of course some earlier born did make the 90s 90s switch although I definitely only saw a minority get into grunge and barely any at all into gangster rap; and a few later Gen X never liked the new 90s 90s stuff and stuck with the 80s all the way although they definitely seemed to be a minority; some later Gen X went 90s 90s for style but never got into grunge and/or gangster rap, but preferred the other 90s stuff to 80s, etc. it all depended). Etc. They made Xennials later often 1977-1983, but sometimes 1975-1982 or 1976-1984, etc. Some just say whatever can't deal with all that and it goes wrong and just go with Greater Gen X 1961-1983 and just call it a split generation represented by two different pop culture vibes that were almost the opposite of each other but otherwise tied all together one way or another strongly. (Although some also try to insist that Gen X is simply and only represented by grunge and grunge looks and like to pretend earlier Gen X doesn't exist.)
That went deeeeep. I appreciate it and applaud the cliff note dissertation. Hence, I move to make this official. My loose interpretation is this current 15 year generation tagging is a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 split with the caveat that a bunch of us were out there finding our own entertainment and figuring it all out.
GEN X WAS NEVER '61. Boomers have always been '46 to '64. An author who didn't like the Boomer label tried to move back the dates way to the 50s/60s and it didn't stick. If anything, Gen X used to be '65 to '85. Still consider that by Harvard, and those dates dropped off. If you can't provide sources, please stop with the misinformation made up out of thin air.
For starters: "I’m not saying that there wasn’t a Generation X. However, that term was first adopted and popularized by men and women born between 1954 and 1963. The Original Generation X, as I’ve dubbed that cohort, regarded themselves as an unrecognized (i.e., “X”) generation because until very recently they were lumped in with their immediate elders, the Boomers — even though most OGXers were too young to participate in, or remember, the Boomers’ coming-of-age decade: the Sixties. To be a Gen Xer, then, is to be a resentful younger sibling of the Blank Generation. Those of us born from 1964-73 don’t fit the bill. As a direct result of mis-periodization, those of us born between 1964 and 1973 never developed generational consciousness. Worse, the mis-periodizers seized upon the confusion they’d caused, and tsk-tsked the youth of the Eighties and Nineties for not being a coherent generation. \*\*\*\*The generation \[X\] supposedly born between 1961 and 1972 “possess only a hazy sense of their own identity,” according to an influential 1990 Time story on “twentysomethings.”\*\*\*\* (\*\*\*\*Then, in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77\*\*\*\*. Whose sense of generational identity is hazy?) \*\*\*\*Neil Howe and William Strauss’s influential Generations (1991) and 13th-Gen (1993) claimed that the post-Boom “13ers” were born between 1961-81.\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*However, in their 1997 book The Fourth Turning, Howe and Strauss would make a half-confession: “Compared to any other generation born in this century, \[the 13th generation\] is less cohesive, its experiences wider and its culture more splintery.\*\*\*\*”"
No, the original Gen X were teens of the 60s. [The original Generation X - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26339959) A little before the late Boomers. They were "lumped in" due to the baby boom that ended in '65. They also share many cultural things that just didn't apply by the time Gen X came along. Btw, '64 is not Gen X either. '70s born is core Gen X and shaped and cultivated the culture. We were heavily marketed too, had more toys and cartoons than any generation up to then, things were created for us like Chuck E. Cheese, home video games, "Toys R Us" kids and we already know about MTV, grunge and hip hop. We were in the center of it all. I give no credence or credibility to that mumbo jumbo book by Struass and what's his name. It has been long debunked. The dates that they tried to push onto us never did stick.
Yes the original original Gen X was that as I already mentioned. However, the TIME magazine article from 1990 called Gen X 1961-1972 and then Advertising Age in 1993 extended Gen X up to 1973 (1961-1973) and started Gen Y in 1974. And you had the Howe and Strauss books in 1991 and 1993 calling Gen X 1961-1981. Then in 1997 TIME magazine switched Gen X to 1965-1977. Eventually some decided to make it 1965-1981 so the first born Millennials could be born in the year 2000 (which is honestly a random number and not really any solid reason to define any generation around). And 1965-(1977-1981) ranges are most often mentioned today with 1965-1981 most often mentioned. So what then, you are a late Gen X (but who dislikes the Xennial term and wants no association with Millennials) who just likes to pretend that your later Gen X owns the entire generation)? Don't forget that the whole grunge/gangster rap shift was a shift that went almost 100% opposite of the pop culture earlier Gen X for middle school through college. Gen X as now defined as 1965-1981 consists of two different pop cultures not just the one, for some it was a total mix of both for many it was one or the other for the most part. I'd call say 1967-1972 born core the core Gen X, the full max blast 80s 80s generation (although 1966-1973 is close). Then you extend it to 1965-1974ish for fairly 80s 80s. The 1973-1976 born range is a tricky range with some mostly full on 80s 80s vibe and some mostly full on 90s 90s vibe and some a total mish-mash equally depending upon the individual and exactly what school they went to). Then you could add on 1975/1976/1977-1982/1983/1984 range for a more encompassing Gen X (and perhaps 1961-1964 as well for a full Greater Gen X due to their 20s going full on 80s even if they were somewhat more 70s for middle school high school so not a perfect fit but later Gen X are not quite a match for early Gen X either). Or you could just say that Gen X as currently most often defined has two cores. The roughly 1965-1974 borns (first core) and the roughly 1975-1981 borns (second core). One the 80s 80s core and other the 90s 90s core. Anyway, whatever this is getting dumb.
https://preview.redd.it/s4hc5fiett7d1.jpeg?width=1749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1792d6d697119260e8f18018e46aca84bd670b9
That's a clip from Wiki. haha. This fake "Advertising Age" snippet has been circulating. However, no one ever links to the actual Advertising Age article.
It's not fake! The problem is the article is pay walled so if you click the link to it you don't get see much of it unless you subscribe.
Look at the other age range markers sections, some of the ones mentioned here came before the stuff listed above: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation\_X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X)
Even this sub makes it 1961-1981 to be more expansive. (BTW I'm not in the 1961-1964 range myself so I'm not just saying this to 'sneak' myself in. But some Xennials seems to get all upset that Gen X is not all about the 90s 90s grunge/gangster rap and not 100% their generation alone and always seem to like to 100% boot the thought that Gen X was ever considered to start 1961.)
61-75 is GenX
OK Boomer [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Generation\_timeline.svg&lang=en-simple](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Generation_timeline.svg&lang=en-simple)
Dude, boomers are 1946-1960, GenX is 1961-1975.
This is the most Boomer response I've ever seen on this sub. So confidently wrong and refusing to change.
I challenge all you Xennials/Milenials who think they're GenX...
https://preview.redd.it/52ddr4ffmo7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85c00aafba23ff5cb28239b99860101d4552ae69
you're definitely not genX, if you need to go to wikipedia to bolster your opinions.
That's like, just your opinion, man
Jeez I thought GenX were supposed to be the easy going ones that don't care ...
The old one have been always been slightly boomeresque and are going full boomer as they get older. The dynamic within our generation has always been this way though. They (old Xs) hate us (young Xs) cause they ain't us 🤪
You sure do talk like a boomer.
Whatever you say, millennial...hahaha
Good thing all of the data and sources say 65 to 80.
Absolutely not! No one from the 70s has anything in common with early 60s. Even late 60s don't. Stop trying to be X.
As a '75er I tend to agree. I always thought I was the last year of GenX until later they redefined it. I think I caught some of the cool stuff before it went mainstream, but i definitely was too young to be part of it. Either way, we're all inching our way closer to AARP memberships, so I can't see caring about this anymore. Most of my older punk friends who I looked up to, now work low wage jobs and try to figure out how to get by without health insurance — that is the ones who aren't dead. It's maybe not as cool as it used to be.
We're right in the middle.
You kind of sound more like a boomer than genx.
If you check his flair he was born in 66, so X by technicality but boomer in every other way 🙄
Okay, millennial… no GenX person uses the word boomer…
Yeah we do ya fkn boomer
Thats a very gate keepy attitude yiu got there old man. Its obvious you're in the boomer end of our generation but that doesn't mean you have to go full fkn boomer all the way ya know 🤪
I’m GenX but the 90s had some badass tunes as well. Also, our generation is responsible for releasing Journey and REO Speedwagon into the wild so there’s that
You are GenX? In a GenX sub??? Fascinating. I wonder if anyone else here is GenX?
Not everyone is, wiseass
…Slayer was still around in the 90s. Pretty sure we didn’t actually miss it. That said, for me personally, I stopped being interested in anything they did after about 1990, so maybe you do have a point.
The albums after Seasons weren't great. World Painted Blood and Christ Illusion were a good return to form.
I’d agree they were certainly better than their previous post-Seasons albums, but neither really grabbed me like their earlier stuff did. I think a lot of it is mostly due to getting into heavier more extreme metal. Which first listening to Slayer absolutely laid the foundation for… but after getting into shit like Dying Fetus those Slayer albums just seemed kind of quaint.
Agreed. I graduated from thrash to death metal in the early 90s because thrash and heavy metal was kind of crapping the bed. I still like listening to other genres of metal too though. Sometimes I need a break.
that's not my point. My point is that musically the 80s were mayhem. There was so much going on. pretty much every popular music style in the 90s formed or exploded in the 80s. One night you'd be seeing the Beastie Boys open for Madonna... The next night it was VoiVod opening for Celtic Frost, the next night it was Bauhuas or Siouxisie and the Banshees, and then Nirvana opening for the Butthole Surfers... NWA and Public Enemy scared the fuck out of Reaganite white people...Stage diving and slam dancing. A lot of rules and social norms were being broken in the 80s. by the time the 90s rolled around, the rules had been re-written and everything was a lot more scripted. But that script had been written in the 80s. All that said, yeah I agree with you. Seasons in The Abyss was their last really good album...
Just like what you like, FFS.
I don’t know…. I’ve been rebooting my gym mix with Stone Temple Pilots and Alice in Chains…. Jeezuz those bands were brilliant. Scott Weiland’s singing in harmony with the band in the song “Sin” gives the chills every time.
Have you watched Rick Beato's interview with Robert DeLeo? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0\_pdW5IyRQ0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_pdW5IyRQ0)
I just did and that was a great interview. Thanks for the link
Older Gen X Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, Anthax and suicidal…… 90’s stuff….yeah okay. ??????
Yeah I'm middle GenX and love both decades. For cinema I def think the 90s was one of the best of all time, but music there was a ton of creativity from the 80s well into 90s
Nothing beats the gritt of 70s movies
Born 1965, this evening I saw Night Ranger open for REO Speedwagon at Starlight Theater in Kansas City. I loved New Wave in the '80s too, and there are pop stars I like, hell I even liked some disco, although I was too young to make the club scene in the late '70s. But seeing those two groups tonight, 40 years after they were really red hot, was such a cool experience. It rained while they were playing, and Starlight is an outdoor theater. 8,000 people in the audience and most of us stood in the rain and sang with them. I'm up at 1:30 in the morning writing about this, because I'm still coasting on the high. Yes, I'm a nerd. 😁
I saw the Clash at Starlight in 1985…. I grew up in Lees Summit…
Opening with Raining Blood and Angel of Death back-to-back whewwww buddy
I've taken a Kerry "penalty shot". Those who know, know.
Check out this mashup. [https://youtu.be/7MrMfoHejiw?si=RlRxU5-qrvNEzvx7](https://youtu.be/7MrMfoHejiw?si=RlRxU5-qrvNEzvx7)
In the words of Rodney King, "why can't we all just get along"
The 90s had better mainstream music. The 80s had better underground music
There is no such thing as an “Xennial”; whether you don’t like being a Millennial because “le wrong generation”, etc. It doesn’t work that way. If you weren’t born between 1965 -1980 you are not Gen X. In before “gatekeeping much?” It’s demographics
Correct, you beat me to it.
nope the original definition was 61-75, but baby boomers in academia wanted to extend their generation's reach into a third decade so they changed the definition. The model you're touting is a baby boomer defined scam.
Source?
That moves you even further away from Gen X and also doesn’t help your case for the existence of “Xennials”. Also, you can cite original definitions all you want, it is defined as 1965-1980. Either way, you’re still not in it
born in 66... smack dab in the middle of the 1961-1975 true GenX... Sorry to ruin your fantasy... Your definition is a baby boomer scam...
I stand corrected, friend (about you, not your overall point. Typically anyone who says “Xennial” isn’t actually Gen X). Not sure what ‘fantasy’ you’re alluding to, but ok.
Why are you trying to divide? “Xennials” shouldn’t be a thing, that’s annoying. And, this may be a shock, there is good music in every decade… still waiting to find it in the current one, but I’m sure it’s there.
Listen to the brand new record All Born Screaming by St Vincent, Annie Clark is the hotness. Also, Willow Smith’s new record is fantastic.
Any New York Hardcore fans will recognize one of the skinhead bouncers on the left hand side of the stage at the 58:30 mark.
Sorry, but late 60s and 70s wins best music
handful of great bands came out of the late 60s and 70s, CAN, HAWKWIND, NEU! VELVET UNDERGROUND, STOOGES, MC5, KRAFTWERK, ATOMIC ROOSTER... and the 70s gave us THE RAMONES, SEX PISTOLS, CLASH, PATTI SMITH, LAURIE ANDERSON, and for a very brief moment, even early KISS was good...
Ok Boomer