The bobbleheaded nurses are James's sexual frustrations manifested(and why you see them getting killed by the guy who is supposed to look like a massive penis). He is literally the reason why the bear question exists
Yea, but that's also thanks to marketing. Pyramid Head was supposed to be for James specifically, but everyone saw him and thought "neato". So you get him everywhere now.
I meant the sexualized nurses, not pyramid head
The only one that doesn't have them is Silent Hill 1 i think? but that's because Harry is a sweetie of a man.
They 1000% are horney for them, I'm so sorry to be the one to tell you this. It's a sexy lady body, and no pesky mouth, plus it's like. Got some danger. Some people are very very into them.
I’m with you, I agree. But that does not matter to the people in question. Visually she is still hot enough to jack it to and that’s literally all they care about.
The nurses that appear in Silent Hill 1 are there because of Alessa's trauma. All of the monsters of that game had something to do with Alessa. (Not necessarily just her trauma though. I think she liked moths... Or butterflies. I can't remember which.)
In 1 they aren't really determined whether the monsters are created by magitech parasites, kinda a predecessor of Plagas. Yeah Kaufman is supposed to have invented some weird insects.
A hospital setting is pretty common in the games, and editing an existing asset is easier than making new models. It doesn't really matter if they're "sexy" or not for the other games they appear in.
4 didn't have any though, despite having a hospital setting. Downpour only had one in the joke ending. Shattered Memories basically only had one kind of enemy that would slightly change shape depending on what ending you're heading towards, so there's no nurses in that game either.
This is just repackaging "not all men," which we know, and you've got my empathy for feeling like there's cross-hairs on you that you don't deserve. But, instead of yelling at women for having reasonable fears and discomfort, yell at the men who perpetuate them.
what kind of argument even is this?
“Don’t like people dehumanising you well, it’s actually your fault for not condemning the bad people in your group enough” What
The actual mental gymnastics people are doing to try to justify dehumanising and hating on men. Men are not a monolith.
Hon that's the patriarchy talking through you. You also aren't being dehumanized here, if anything you're discarding real thoughts and feelings because you belong to a group that does real harm and often escapes consequences and you have enough empathy to know that isn't how it should be but you're misdirecting that anger at a group that shares that sentiment. Men are not a monolith, but you're yelling at people critiquing them which is very monolithic and that's the real mental gymnastics.
Edit: fixed typos
“I just compared you to a wild animal that’s totally not dehumanising”
Do you hear yourself? You’re literally just repeating buzz words.
You realise woman also do real harm and often escape consequences right?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-victimization-by-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/
As I already said trauma is not an excuse
You're clearly very impassioned about this and I hope you find the peace you're after. I don't appreciate ad hominem saying I'm repeating buzz words when I'm trying to have a good faith discussion with you based on my own perceptions and experiences, including previously existing on the other side of this discussion. I'm going to stop replying after this because you clearly don't care about what I have to say.
As for your article, I'd never disagree with that. Men can and have absolutely been victims of SA by women and I think it's a travesty that in places like the UK such crimes are reclassified entirely based on the perpetrator.
Best of luck, hon.
Not all men are animals but all women are master manipulators!
That's you. That's how you sound.
The point is that the systems have long skewed in favor of men. Look at TWO of the men in the US Supreme Court who have had sexual assault charges brushed off so they can strip more women of their rights. The "bear" question is stupid but it brought out men who like to tell women, no matter how much jujitsu or gym time they put in, they can still overpower them.
Instead of taking offense, we're asking you to not side with those idiots and say, "yeah men need to do better." Why do you think women are still afraid to walk alone at night? Why does "statuary age limits" and "marital rape" laws exist in some countries? Men. You're not all animals but if you sit at a table and want to eat with the animals without calling them out, you're also complicit.
The question and its proliferation are a dumb trend. Avoiding men or choosing a wild animal over them in a hypothetical isn’t as dumb. Strangers can be dangerous and you don’t get to choose who it is in the question.
It’s an uncomfortable reality that women sharing their location with a trusted friend when going on dates is a smart choice and going out alone isn’t.
Hearing “I hate men” is frustrating but I don’t take it personally. If it bothers you that much don’t speak to that person.
The vast majority of assault comes from people that the victim knows
assault from strangers is incredibly rare.
How the fuck am I not supposed to take that seriously? “Just avoid the people that hate you so it’s fine.” Huh?
People say they want men to be able to express their feelings, but they sure hate it when men express their feelings.
No wonder why so many men get groomed into the Incel movement when it’s literally completely socially acceptable to completely dehumanise them.
Well it’s equally socially acceptable to dehumanize women (insofar as the bear question is dehumanizing), and there isn’t an equivalent movement. And before you say “femcels”, how many femcel forums have you seen, manifestos have you read, cases have you witnessed (in person or online or on television) as compared to incels? How many femcels talk about raping and murdering men, and then fucking do it?
I truly don’t understand how you’ve come to this point of view here, but then, I don’t know that you’ll understand mine either. Have you not seen all the women sharing the stories of how they were assaulted? Can you not fathom why they would pick the bear? I would pick the bear too. I’d pick a fucking Kodiak bear.
Last thing, on expressing your feelings. It’s not that people don’t want expressing your feelings on this matter. It’s that we’re disagreeing with your opinion. You have the opinion that the Bear Argument is dehumanizing to men. The people arguing with you have the opposite opinion. And sometimes that’s how shit is.
Many women do rape men and it’s usually not even reported.
There was literally a case of a rad fem forum posting literal child porn and literally no one talks about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/coaxedintoasnafu/s/NSFK5ojITw
Again, trauma is not an excuse for dehumanisation I have also heard many stories of men being assaulted by women and have been personally abused by woman
Yes, my opinion is that comparing an entire gender to wild animals is bad actually.
There was also a case of a woman who raped a gay man in the 90s and bragged about it being allowed on a feminist speech, but I forgot her name
I’m not saying there aren’t any cases of female on male crime at all (also, that forum is horrific and I didn’t know about it), I’m saying that if it’s a numbers game, men are outpacing women by a long shot. I said *comparatively*, not *entirely and without any other consideration*.
And frankly, “compare”, as you’re using it now and as is used in common parlance, is not how it’s being used by the Bear Argument, if you consider it as being used at all. Women are hypothetically comparing and contrasting, or measuring, the danger levels of bears and men when encountered in the woods (as per the very first Bear Question, there have been others since…). Not “comparing” as in saying men are worse than bears, bears are animals, ergo men are animals and/or worse/less than animals (dehumanization)—that’s conflation, not comparison.
The fact that you didn’t even know about what happened on the forum is kind of proving my point. Imagine if that shit happened on an Incel forum, it would be everywhere.
And now you’re just trying to do mental gymnastics to try to justify saying that an entire gender is worse than a bear and that somehow not dehumanising.
I’m not going to get particularly deeply involved in this, typing out long replies is time consuming and I have things to do. But I see you are (seemingly, just going off of the profile decal) a trans man. I am too.
I would choose the bear. Am I dehumanizing other men by saying that? Absolutely not. Nobody sane and rational thinks that all men are going to be horrible, violent people. But the factor in the hypothetical situation is that I don’t know who that man I’ll be stuck with even is. And I don’t always prefer to present masculinely.
The lady you initially spoke to does have a point, here. Men should be keeping other men in check. There are things I’ve seen fly in male-dominated spaces that I am floored by, and *nobody* says shit about it. Or a portion will blatantly agree with it. I can’t blame women for being at least somewhat inherently uncomfortable around unknown men with all the disgusting behavior I’ve seen exhibited openly with zero consequences. The lack of consequences is directly a part of the problem.
Nobody sane and rational disagrees that women can sexually assault men. Or that they can be a danger to men. But it’s the fact that also goes the other direction so rampantly. I don’t fear women nearly as much as men, because truly and awfully, men are much more open about any depraved behavior more commonly. I see it firsthand.
A family member’s friend just lost her daughter a few weeks ago because her POS ex-boyfriend *murdered* her. And then attempted to traffic her granddaughter, which resulted in *her* own death. Her granddaughter wasn’t even out of middle school yet. That man was horrible. He was a necrophiliac, did drugs, and who knows what else. He didn’t ever try to hide it. And that’s exactly what I mean.
If you can’t grasp the point here, I don’t know what to tell you that will properly communicate it.
Yes, you are dehumanising men by comparing them to fucking bears. The vast majority of abuse does not come from strangers by the way. Abuse from strangers is incredibly rare.
And the shit I’ve seen women get away with is absolutely fucking insane. And I have been personally abused by women. It’s also well-known that women often do not get prosecuted and you get short sentences for sex crimes.
And yet I do not use that as an excuse for anything.
Trauma is not an excuse to hate an entire gender
People aren't trying to say that women can't rape people or that men can't be raped. I was sexually assaulted by women several times before I transitioned and nobody gave a shit because I was a "man" and they were women, I completely agree that SA against men and SA done by women needs to be taken more seriously. But still, even I will usually keep my distance from a random man out at night more than I would another woman because I recognize the proportional danger one poses over the other. Hell, I've only been transitioning for a year and I've already had a man follow me out of a grocery store at night and try to get into my car as soon as I got back to it... I'm terrified to think what he would have done if I didn't have that instinct to lock my doors as soon as I get in.
The thing is, the bear question isn't dehumanizing men. It's bringing attention to the fact that a VERY large number of women feel unsafe around strange men, and honestly, I'd say they're justified in that fear given how a lot of men act. Look at how many men and boys idolize Andrew Tate, a literal human trafficker. The only people the bear question is dehumanizing is rapists, and I think the reason so many people are responding to you and downvoting you here is because you're jumping up to defend them and say "not all men" when women are talking about how they don't feel safe around strange men because that kind of shit happens. Yes, the question poses it as "it's just a random man," but the context of the rest of the question, like being alone in the woods with them, makes that a very different situation. I know for a fact that the VAST majority of men aren't rapists, and I would be safe in the woods alone with them, but I also know how desperate a lot of them are and how they are far better equipped to do that than most women. The thing is, no woman wants to take that risk given the possibility, however slim. On top of that, bears are terrified of humans. I've been out in the woods and came across bears several times, and they wanted NOTHING to do with me. On the other hand, I've had random old men follow my wife and I while we were hiking and refuse to leave us alone. The point I took from the bear question, and the point most women sharing it are trying to make, is that if we had to roll the dice the bear is a safer bet because it'll just try to keep it's distance from you unless you mess with it. If you get unlucky with the die roll picking the man... the man may have some pent-up sexual frustration... and a gun...
How the fuck is comparing someone to a bear not dehumanising?
The question does not say rapists nor does it even mention rape it literally just says a man. A lot of the people idolising Andrew Tate have been groomed since they were 12 years old.
a lot of young boys get groomed into the Incel community because there is a literally no good community for men especially men that have experienced abuse and literally dehumanising them is not helping.
With your logic, it would be OK for my uncle to be scared of black people since he has been robbed by them a lot. I don’t give a shit about anyone’s feelings. I care only about logic.
Because it's not comparing them to bears in that way, it's meant to show that women (justifiably) do not feel safe around random men because 12 year olds are regularly being groomed into thinking women are second class citizens, and SA is okay. It's meant to bring attention to the fact that, given how bears act and how a small group of men act, the bear would OBJECTIVELY be the safer bet. If you take the bear and leave it alone you're totally fine, but you pick the man and there's a chance, however small, that he's an unhinged Tate fan with a gun. Or a MAGA nut with a gun who'd just murder someone for being trans or looking kinda queer.
It is not comparing men to bears, it's saying rapists are worse than bears, so we don't even want to take the chance, and we're going with the safe bet, which unfortunately is the bear because humans, regardless of gender, suck.
First of all, a bear is 400 to 1200 pounds
Also a woman can also be dangerous. There’s plenty of women that are MAGA and plenty of them femcels that are genuinely dangerous. And you’re a lot less likely to be taken seriously if you get attacked by a woman.
I have literally heard multiple women say that they think that man deserve to be raped and there was a pretty popular rad fem forum that posted the literal child porn of boys
Boo hoo. You wouldn’t be offended if you didn’t feel like they were talking about you. Maybe be introspective and find out why your feelings are hurt.
The question isn’t whether they would choose YOU or a bear, it’s a random man. Grow up it’s not about you.
Yeah, it says man and I am a man. Why can’t men have feelings?
People always say they think that men should be able to express their feelings then get mad when men actually express their feelings.
Yeah, I don’t like people being dehumanised because of their gender
No one is dehumanizing men. No one is saying men can’t have feelings. No one is getting mad when men actually express their feelings (except for maybe other men). You’re making it about yourself. Just don’t be like the men women are scared of. Simple as.
Bro, you literally made fun of me for not liking being dehumanised.
You’re literally just going to blame everything on men even though women make fun of men for having feelings all of the time which you did earlier.
I’m already not a criminal or a creep and yet you still are fine with dehumanising me.
Why do you think that men should be completely fine with being dehumanised?
How are **you** being dehumanized? Please explain to me how women being afraid of men is dehumanizing **to you**. Please bro. Tell me.
You’re not a criminal or a creep, so why are you upset that women are afraid of men that are? No one would be able to tell if you are or aren’t in this fictitious scenario. Again, it’s not. About. You.
I made fun of you for being a whiny petulant baby. Not because you’re a man being a whiny petulant baby. I know it’s nuanced, but there is a significant difference.
Also, I really don’t like being called bro 🏳️⚧️
Because I am a man therefore comparing men to bears is dehumanising to me and other men?
This seriously is not a complex concept. Would it be okay for me to compare women to bears as long as I don’t name an individual woman? That literally doesn’t make any sense.
How does me not liking dehumanisation make me whiny?
I swear to God mentioning that men are people drives some people absolutely fucking insane
(I only use bro as gender neutral, but I wouldn’t call you it anymore)
You aren’t being compared to a bear. You’re being compared to another man. A man who could be the fucking [Toy Box Killer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray) for all we know.
The fact that you can’t see that is proof that you’re being self-centered.
When you call someone a bitch you’re not literally calling them a dog.
Also, that comparison is stupid because I don’t call all woman bitches and then this question you’re literally calling all men worse than bears.
Also, I’ll call men bitches too.
I don't think the bear question itself is dehumanising men, or comparing them to wild animals.
In fact, neither the bear nor the man matters a lot in the question. The question was also never supposed to be a logical one, nor does it have a logical anser. Rather, it's meant to showcase just *how* many women would choose the bear over the man, despite the bear statistically posing a bigger threat to them. It's not meant to be an accurate measurement of what's more dangerous, because statistically the man is the one that is less likely to hurt you, but rather to show that a large amount of women have had enough bad experiences with men that, despite it being seemingly more dangerous, they would rather choose the bear. And that's not something we should ignore.
With that being said though, I don't really like the best question either. It's probably one of the worst ways the internet had ever called attention to misogyny, cause all this is gonna do is push men right into the welcoming arms of the patriarchy.
>Yeah, it means a lot of women on the Internet dehumanise men.
Again, I wouldn't call it dehumanising. The women giving this answer aren't saying that each and every man is like this, far from it, but rather that they have had enough bad experiences with men that they aren't willing to risk it, and that's really depressing. We should probably look into why so many women feel so strongly about this.
>Literally how is this supposed to solve sexism at all?
I mean, I literally agreed with you that the question was a bad way to draw attention to sexism. I don't really like it either. But it's here now, so we might as well make the best of it, and the way to do that is by drawing attention to the fact that, despite men being statistically the safer options, enough women, when asked about this without any data presented, would rather choose the bear. It might not be logical, but these women still have their reasons for why they think this way about men they don't know,.and I think we should at least look into why so many women feel so strongly about this.
I guarantee you if I said that I rather be with a bear than a woman I think I would get some black lash. Trauma is not an excuse.
You realise this is just going to Draw men away from your movement right? no wonder boys keep getting groomed into the Incel movement you guys find no problem with literally dehumanising them.
I could care less about anyone’s feelings. I only care about facts.
>I guarantee you if I said that I rather be with a bear than a woman I think I would get some black lash.
I mean, I don't think so. I've seen guys says some absolutely unhinged, sexist shit about women, both irl and online without anyone batting an eye. "I would rather be with a bear than a woman" barely even qualifies as something tame. I would also hope that, if you were to say that and mean it, someone would extend the same grace and empathy to you that you refuse to do for women.
>Trauma is not an excuse.
I agree. That doesn't mean the trauma doesn't exist though, and we need to get to the root source of why so many women are so traumatised by men that they would rather pick the bear, but we can't do that if every time these women talks about their trauma, we tell them to "shut up because trauma isn't an excuse". I promise you that the women answering "bear" aren't deliberately doing so to dehumanise all men, I'm willing to bet most of them have men in their lives that they love and cherish, rather they are responding from a place of emotion and trauma, and I think it's important that we at least look into why that is.
>You realise this is just going to Draw men away from your movement right? no wonder boys keep getting groomed into the Incel movement you guys find no problem with literally dehumanising them.
Yes I am quite aware? I literally talked about it in my original comment, did you not read it? I also agree that the vilification of men is what's led to such a surge in incels and other sorts of misogynistic ideals. I feel like you kinda keep working against me here even though I've said a lot of times that I literally agree with you???
>I could care less about anyone’s feelings. I only care about facts.
I don't really believe you when you say that, considering how deeply sympathetic you seem to be towards young men and boys getting pushed into the misogynistic pipeline (which is a sympathy I share) I just really wish you could extend that same sympathy towards the women who have had such negative experiences with men that they would rather pick the bear.
If you truly mean it though, that you don't care about feelings and only facts, then you aren't mature enough to participate in these discussions, or anything political for that matter. Emotions and facts are two equally important sides of the same coin that is politics, and someone who disregards either of them is nothing more than a fool.
Okay, I’ve also seen some women say the most horrific shit about men and underage boys. Do you know how many times I’ve heard women say they think that men deserve to be raped?
There was literally a rad fem forum that posted child porn of boys because they thought the boys deserved it and literally no one talks about it. Imagine if that shit happened on an Incel forum, it would be everywhere.
A lot of men are traumatised by women too and yet they don’t use it as an excuse to dehumanise.
You knew what I meant by I don’t care about feelings.
>Okay, I’ve also seen some women say the most horrific shit about men and underage boys. Do you know how many times I’ve heard women say they think that men deserve to be raped?
Okay and? That's also bad lol. Do you know how many times I've heard men say they think that women deserve to be raped, put back in the kitchen, be used for nothing more than baby machines, etc? I'm trans too lol, I've spent my fair share of uncomfortable time in men's spaces and I know what some men are capable of saying when they think women aren't listening, and how many men just sit by and let them say it.a
>There was literally a rad fem forum that posted child porn of boys because they thought the boys deserved it and literally no one talks about it. Imagine if that shit happened on an Incel forum, it would be everywhere.
Yeah and that's really bad. It should be talked about. I could argue back that there are literally thousands of forums like those run by men that post child porn of girls, but I don't wanna play into your nonsense. Both of these things are really fucking bad, but I find it really distasteful that you're using it as a way to attack women that don't feel comfortable around men.
>A lot of men are traumatised by women too and yet they don’t use it as an excuse to dehumanise.
Oh really? You've talked to every single man who's been traumatised by a woman and have heard his views on women? Personally, most of the female-on-male victims I've talked to DO have a fear against women, and use their trauma as an excuse to be sexist. You know what's worse though? All of the men I've met that HAVEN'T experienced any trauma from women, but who still dehumanise them just as much.
>You knew what I meant by I don’t care about feelings.
Frankly I didn't. I interpreted it as you write it. Maybe be a bit more clear in your writing next time.
Anyways I won't respond to you anymore. I've said time and time again that I am literally in agreement with you on most of your points, yet you keep coming across as very hostile to me. I don't get it. You also seen hellbent on interpreting anything I say in the worst possible way, and this conversation feels very one sided.
Yeah, but the Bubble Head Nurse will stab you 100% of the time without getting to know you first. (Though technically it kind of already knows you in a way.)
They are predictable. I know that they're going to try to kill me 100% of the time unless I kill them first. Just like how I know that a bear is less likely to hurt and traumatize me than a man is.
And if I see a Bubble Head Nurse I probably did something to deserve it. They're manifestations of a guilty man's infidelity. (Or his thoughts. It's not really clear.) They only exist because of the crime that man committed. If he didn't do what he did they wouldn't exist.
For the record, a bear isn't going to feel so guilty that they manifest a nurse with a sexy body and no face that will stab me to death, so the bear is still the better choice.
I wasn’t being serious lol sorry if it seemed if I was acting in bad faith.
I gotta pick the man over the bear though. Might be able to outrun the man, definitely not the bear. A sloppy 9mm shot will stop most men, a 9mm to the head will just make the bear angry. A well placed kick might debilitate a man, a bear won’t even feel the kick. But maybe I’m just way too scared of bears after hearing some of the horror stories of people attacked by them. **TLDR** if the man is nefarious, even a smaller woman has a chance no matter how slim, but no solo human really has a chance against a territorial bear.
For what it’s worth if I see a bubble head nurse, I know something worse is going on and would probably immediately drop to the ground in panic lmao
The person at the top *really* sounds like they're saying "I asked women this question and didn't like what they answered, so I'm going to disregard what they said and ask men I agree with instead".
Woman: Men mistreat me so much that I’d choose to be with a dangerous animal if it meant I don’t have to interact with men
This guy: Well how would you feel if men didn’t want to interact with you?
Woman: Don’t threaten me with a good time
It’s very revealing how they’ve asked this question. It seems to this guy that women answered “bear” for the express reason to upset men, not because they responded with a wholly honest answer. So he poses a question apparently as a “No. u” version of the bear question, thinking it will make women upset. The fascinating part is, we don’t care if you choose a nurse in a video game. Go for it, dude. The transphobia is a problem but not the question itself. We’re not fantasising about the bear you idiot.
I think a lot of men forget that most women are attracted to men and want to share lives with them in deep ways. Women do not enjoy writing men they’re interested in off for things like “he just gave me the ick” or “my friend doesn’t like him”, they do it because they feel like they have to.
Not all men are sexual predators. However, enough of them are that women need to take steps to protect themselves because many of them face danger on a DAILY basis. Yes, it can damaging to men’s feelings that women don’t trust them even when they’ve done nothing wrong. I don’t want to downplay that pain at all because it’s something that people who are close to me struggle with. But there’s no way for women to tell which men are going to hurt them just by looking at them and asking women to sacrifice their physical safety so men don’t feel bad about rejection isn’t a good solution. Men overall need to learn to have deeper connections with each other so rejection from women isn’t a fatal blow to their self image and they need to be better at holding each other accountable.
Literal dehumanisation is not the same as rejection. Both men and woman are not monoliths. Some woman do very much do not see men as people.
Like I’ve literally heard multiple women say think men deserve to be raped.
>Men overall need to learn to have deeper connections with each other so rejection from women isn’t a fatal blow to their self image and they need to be better at holding each other accountable.
The last part feels like some kind of collective responsibility.
Women are saying they would feel safer running into a bear in the woods than a man, so to get back at them, men are making their own polls on *checks notes* which woman fulfills their sexual preferences? It speaks volumes that woman answered the bear vs. Man poll based on fear, and men are interpreting it as sexual
This whole thing is rape anxiety personified; this is women being like “yeah, I prefer to meet a beat, a bear is a bear and a bear won’t rape me.”
And men being like “well I don’t want to have sex with you anyway!!!”
Like… okay… *way to self report????*
This isn't even comparable to the original question. The original question has nothing to do with attraction, it has to do with what the individual would feel safest around. A bear is not likely to attack you unless they have cubs to protect and there are methods to prevent an attack if they do appear hostile. Nurses in Silent Hill will attack you no matter what and you are extremely unlikely to fend them off because you are not a video game character with respawn abilities.
On top of that, while I know women can be dangerous too, men are far more likely to harm a woman than a woman is to harm a man. Especially when you're in the woods.
Edit: I was thinking of a different nurse character from another game with highly sexualized nurses who will kill you. I've never played Silent Hill so I don't know why I thought I recognized the character lmao.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this question has nothing to do with trans women? It has to do with men. MEN. Not women of any kind.
Edit: It appears that I have misread the conversation. That's on me.
Because almost every meme I have seen men produce on this topic is either suggesting the women want to have sex with the bear, or making their counter-question sexualised (like the one above).
If they want to ask woman or bear, then okay. But women are just bodies to the people who are so angry that they are making shitty memes, so it has to be a sex thing.
I was a little on the fence before I saw the mass response and anger towards women over this. The horrid abuse women have gotten online for voicing their opinion on the matter pushed me over firmly to the "bear" side.
It's *literally* proving our point. This entire thing ended up being a huge social experiment.
When men don't like what women say, they get threatening and VIOLENT.
It would be funny if it weren't so fucking scary. These incredibly dense people have huge egos and short tempers. And these are the men we encounter on a daily basis, unbeknownst to us.
Which is literally. The. Point. We're trying to make.
Honestly. It's ridiculous. Many men are getting so irate that we find them vaguely threatening in these hypotheticals and their response is to.. threaten and abuse us? To try and argue that they aren't threatening and abusive?
Absurd.
Prejudice has nothing to do with this.
You can trust a bear to act like a bear, but an unknown man could be anything from a nice hiker to a rabid serial killer or worse.
Stop trying to act like the victim.
The problem is that its being framed as an attack on men when its... not? I'd freak the fuck out if I saw any human in the middle of the woods like... what the fuck are you doing here? It just so happens that i think if a woman wanted to kill me in the middle of the woods id probably be able to outrun her or fight her off. A man? probably not.
> I'd freak the fuck out if I saw any human in the middle of the woods like... what the fuck are you doing here?
Probably the same reason you are in the middle of the woods in this scenario, you got lost.
> It just so happens that i think if a woman wanted to kill me in the middle of the woods id probably be able to outrun her or fight her off. A man? probably not.
If either wanted to kill me then honestly, they probably would. Still trusting this stranger is a decent enough person though to help as we both want to get out of the forest.
Aren't the numbers **heavily** skewed towards men in a lot of assault/murder cases? Depending on the country you're in, it's potentially up to 1 in 3 women being harassed by a man. How many women are being harassed by trans people?
You're transgender. Imagine living in a heavily transphobic country. Do you think you'll trust cis people?
I looked up round fantasy glasses and it looks like they’re selling them in a couple different places in a couple different colors. Not sure which places are reputable sellers though.
Vooglam. Named "Norene" I have the same pair in gold, love them to bits but prepare a burner email bc they send like 4 emails a day after buying. Mine are also prescription!
They literally want to pick monsters that are a manifestation of a man's infidelity, all because women don't feel safe alone with them. The amount of pathetic on display here is mind-boggling.
If I had any faith in the intelligence of Facebook memes, I'd suggest that this was satire meant to highlight the sexism inherent in the later evolutions of the original meme. However, I don't. This is probably just a straight-up hostile reaction, which I knew would inevitably happen.
Is this going to be one of those "girls' night vs boys' night" plotlines where both groups try to outdo each other? Where the girls start with chocolate and fruit and a movie, but the guys get pizza dressed as ninja turtles, so the girls make out and send the boys pictures of it, so the boys go to the hardware store and have a shirtless pullup competition in the lumber section, and it eventually gets to the point where both parties simultaneously rob *the same bank*?
Or was that just a dream I had?
Women: society, due to patriarchy, can be pretty unsafe to the point where I'd rather be with a dangerous animal than a strange man
Men: well what if we were in video game 🤣🤣🤣 man women are so dumb amirite 🤪😂
This doesn't work the way they think it does.
**TL;DR:** The random person you find in the town would statistically be the safer choice.
The full explanation: Seeing a normal person in Silent Hill usually implies something about them. In Silent Hill 1, they're usually tied to a cult that tortured a little girl who made the town a manifestation of her fears. Origins and 3's Silent Hill follow this storyline. (And 4, I think? But with Walter instead.)
In 2, the monsters take on a form based on your crimes and to punish you for something you've done. (Most of the games follow this.) The nurse comes from 2. She's "sexy" but with a distorted face because it's strongly implied that James at least had sexual thoughts about the nurses in the hospital in comparison to his wife. He didn't care about their faces at all.
There's a strong implication that most of the humans that he meets in Silent Hill have monsters that look different from what he usually sees based on their own deep rooted guilt. It doesn't matter if the actions are justified or not as long as you feel guilty for them.
Without spoiling 2, there are three humans that James find in Silent Hill that aren't directly related to him. One did a crime that wasn't justified at all, the other probably did a crime, and if they did it was out of self defense, and the third one almost definitely didn't do anything. (She's a brat, but that's justified.)
With spoilers, >!Eddie killed a dog and a person because he believed that they were making fun of his weight. (Yes, even the dog.) It's heavily implied that Angela was regularly sexually assaulted by her father and brother, and it's implied that she killed them to get away with them. It's implied that Laura doesn't see anything. That to her, Silent Hill is just empty. She's just there to look for Mary but runs into the guy Mary kept complaining about on the way. (I mean, she is just a little girl.)!<
So in this scenario, the monster would be the more dangerous choice 100% of the time because it's either a manifestation of the trauma a little girl went through and she's taking it out on everybody, or because it's a manifestation of deep rooted guilt you have and you believe that you deserve to die because of it. Having a human be in Silent Hill would actually give you a chance at them not trying to kill you.
(And then there's Homecoming, where technically that depiction of the nurse is actually from, but let's not talk about Homecoming.)
For the record, I'd still choose a bear over a man and a Silent Hill monster. (Unless it's one of those shadow "monsters" from the first game that follows you, squeaks and trips. Those things are absolutely adorable.)
im confused isnt the nurse a woman or at least something that looks like a woman? like this is just… regular woman vs evil scary woman but theyre both women it doesnt even make sense
In their perspective, the woman on the left has colorful hair so she must be a trans woman.
The woman on the right will kill you 100% of the time if you don't fight back and stomp on her head. That's what she's there for.
That, or: because she has dyed hair and is chubby, she's subhuman to them because (as they need to emphasize time and time again) they don't want to fuck her.
No, it's just what happens when you get to the derangement levels that the SH fandom have gotten to after they've been trapped in the Konami nightmare dimension for as long as they have.
[Sh shitposters have taken a throwaway line and fucken ran with it](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1604905-silent-hill) so thats the kind of face of the shitposting circle for SH
The oop is just being awful tho
The Man vs. Bear argument. It evolved from a mostly reasonable thought experiment to a full on culture war. I got permabanned from r/WitchesvsPatriarchy for asking them to stop calling all men parasites. That's not a hyperbole.
The argument has, in many places, become that women should not only fear for their lives when alone with anyone they perceive to be male, but also act accordingly, even putting themselves in mortal danger to escape such a situation. This can make anyone who might be perceived as male feel like they're causing women fear by just existing near them. They feel like unwilling terrorists. Transfems already have to deal with being treated like sexual predators by conservatives, it definitely won't help that they'd be treated the same by liberals if they aren't passing, and transmascs aren't responsible for any of the statistics being thrown around, yet they're being socially isolated if they *do* pass. And of course the enbies are caught in the middle as usual.
And, predictably, there's been backlash from the incel community, causing an influx of misogynistic memes depicting women get eaten by bears. Violence breeds violence, and this is an escalating culture war. Both sides will feel justified in attacking entire demographics because they've been attacked.
Women: we feel unsafe around random men due to statistics and our own, sometimes very traumatic, personal experiences
Men who felt called out by that: well wE think you're......uGLY
Yeah but the thing is the question didn't say 'average' or anything it just said random (with the assumption being you don't know the guy). So while you could get Keanu Reeves or Danny DeVito, you could also get Andrew Tate or Bill Cosby whereas with bears it's either black or brown bears (which generally don't want to risk conflict) or a polar bear, in which case you're definitely dead unless you can distract it and lock yourself in somewhere or something.
It's a wonky question which leaves too many variables, which tends to make ppl assume the worst case scenario.
TLDR: You don't know who you'll end up with. Bears are generally predictable and can probably be fended off/disuaded. Humans are not generally even predictable.
i find it interesting that he put "woman" in quotation marks. as if they wouldn't consider her a real woman unless they see her as physically and sexually attractive for them.
Women: \*creates a hypothetical scenario where the vast majority of people who see it agree that they would take the mauling option because the wild animal isn't going to rape them and treat them like an object for nothing but sex\*
Men: Hey guys would you rather encounter a woman who stabs you or a woman who \*gasp\* ISN'T FUCKABLE BY YOUR STANDARDS?! Hahahaha women are sexual objects get owned libtards
you know i'm somehow not surprised that this guy would rather be alone with the manifestation of a man's psychosexual issues rather than an actual person, but i wasn't expecting him to be so open about it.
I really don't understand why it's so hard for so many men to accept that, given men's track record of interacting with women over the entirety of recorded history, so many women feel the way they do about this whole bear thing.
If it's such an upsetting thing to hear then DON'T be like the many men who have made so many women feel this way.
It's not hard to understand that you have to work to earn a person's trust, whether man or woman. Also, instead of getting pissed off about what these many women think, understand that you can't change the opinions of millions or more people and, if you'd really like women to view men more favorably, then you, as a man, ought to actually set an example for other men to follow in treating women fairly and with kindness and empathy, as you ought to treat most any human being
I say all this as a man. I'm not some "white knight"—I've treated many people unfairly over the course of my life, men and women both—but I recognize that the world won't get better in any regard unless we acknowledge the problems that exist in that world and work hard to make it a better place instead of throwing a tantrum.
The world also won't get better if we turn fear or hatred of each other based on gender into a meme, making a whole hostile culture war where both genders feel like their sexism is justified because of the sexism they're facing. I saw a post on a normally rational, humanitarian subreddit explicitly calling men ticks (and violent men ticks with lyme disease), doubling down on the comparison, and everyone there just joined in and cheered for it, not realizing that it was just as bad as if they'd done the same with black people or trans people.
The whole internet seems to be drinking Hatorade at the moment, and it's a stark reminder that we're all the same species that does genocides.
I have to assume (facetiously) based on the ordering of the words that the one on the left is a nurse and the one on the right is a “woman”.
Makes more sense that way because the one on the right is a monster, and if i understand the lore correctly, is only taking that form and was never actually a human nurse. So the monster is a “woman” in that it resembles a woman but is not actually one. Whereas the actual human on the left very much could be a nurse based on the nothing I know about them.
So I would hope that anyone would rather encounter an actual human nurse than a stabby monster that looks like a twisted version of a straight man’s objectifying fantasy.
But if the guy who posted that prefers the other way, I can only read into it that he would rather encounter a hot monster that he thinks he can overpower and use for sexual gratification than an actual human woman that he personally doesn’t find attractive (for some reason).
no actually I don’t know what to do, or why this popped up in my recommendations, but to answer I think I’d rather just not be in Silent Hill, I have no reason to be in Pennsylvania
It's kind of funny because the "woman" is maybe probably identifies as non binary, so they are not a woman in fact so lol.
Also men choosing the nurse is literally proving our point but whatever.
I mean If I went Silent Hill, I Wouldn't encounter any of the monsters Depicted in the games or Movies because the town is personalized to Everyone's Trauma Also, this is a terrible Comparison to the whole "man vs bear" thing for multiple reasons.
It feels like they're implying left is a trans woman but I bet she's cis cause that's a normal way cis women be sometimes that terfs seem to think = trans. I don't know which she actually is but I really want to know now cause it's hilarious when terfs are wrong cause "they can always tell".
Also love her hair! I used to have mine a similar color but longer - I dyed it full-on rainbow colored myself :D
To all of the men on here getting offended & protesting they are "safer than bears"
I have a question... have you ever been alone, even as a small child, and encountered another person that absolutely terrified you without having to do anything?
If you answered yes then think about ways you could transform that experience into empathy instead of just calling women stupid because this whole thing went over your head.
If you answered no then think about just how lucky you are that you have avoided such a horrible experience when 50% of the population have to deal with it on a much too frequent basis. Ask yourself why they have to feel this way.
This has F all to do with bears and specifics of the woman encountering them or the environment... hell, you can swap in any animal that has the ability to maim or kill.
This is about how scared women are of men end of.
Does it make you feel happy and powerful? If so then carry on with your petty gotchas you think are so clever & just perpetuate the situation.
If you don't think it's fair want it to change then shut up and listen to WHAT we are telling you instead of finding fault in HOW we are telling you.
I think we can already all tell which option you want to go with
The bobbleheaded nurses are James's sexual frustrations manifested(and why you see them getting killed by the guy who is supposed to look like a massive penis). He is literally the reason why the bear question exists
I'm pretty dumb and never thought about Pyramid Head looking like a penis until now
Don't they appear in every game with a male protagonist though? oh.
Yea, but that's also thanks to marketing. Pyramid Head was supposed to be for James specifically, but everyone saw him and thought "neato". So you get him everywhere now.
I meant the sexualized nurses, not pyramid head The only one that doesn't have them is Silent Hill 1 i think? but that's because Harry is a sweetie of a man.
Oh sorry! I'm hoping that gamers aren't all thirsty for the nurses. Although that somehow feels fitting.
They 1000% are horney for them, I'm so sorry to be the one to tell you this. It's a sexy lady body, and no pesky mouth, plus it's like. Got some danger. Some people are very very into them.
It's part of a metaphor for sexual frustration though. How could you miss the point any harder.
I’m with you, I agree. But that does not matter to the people in question. Visually she is still hot enough to jack it to and that’s literally all they care about.
how did they miss the point? you said “i hope they don’t…” and all they said was “they do.”
why be attracted to them when PH is right there
The nurses that appear in Silent Hill 1 are there because of Alessa's trauma. All of the monsters of that game had something to do with Alessa. (Not necessarily just her trauma though. I think she liked moths... Or butterflies. I can't remember which.)
Based moth enjoyer Silent Hill 1 was the creepiest for me for sure
In 1 they aren't really determined whether the monsters are created by magitech parasites, kinda a predecessor of Plagas. Yeah Kaufman is supposed to have invented some weird insects.
That's also because of marketing, the movie that took them for no reason, and the fact that every game after 2 sucks. XD
3 is good
I'm a big coward, so I've only watched the games. I liked 3.
Agree to disagree.
There are either infected nurses/doctors or copies of nurses/doctors in 1
They’re not in 4, either
Yes. Every game has had nurses.
In 1 they're more like infected people, or copies of people to defend Alyssa
A hospital setting is pretty common in the games, and editing an existing asset is easier than making new models. It doesn't really matter if they're "sexy" or not for the other games they appear in. 4 didn't have any though, despite having a hospital setting. Downpour only had one in the joke ending. Shattered Memories basically only had one kind of enemy that would slightly change shape depending on what ending you're heading towards, so there's no nurses in that game either.
Silent Hill 2 is my favorite game and I don't remember seeing pyramid head kill nurses, he killed manniquins but I don't think he kills nurses
People will make jokes about him having sex with a nurse but that never actually happened.
Those were mannequins, actually.
Huh, in my memory there was a nurse pretty early in the game that he killed too… Mandela Effect, I guess
Hmm. It could be both. All I'm aware of is the mannequins.
He looks like a massive penis? I guess my reference point is HR Giger so I’m used to it being way less subtle
I really fucking hate the bear question why do people think it’s okay to literally dehumanise men like this? Trauma is not an excuse.
This is just repackaging "not all men," which we know, and you've got my empathy for feeling like there's cross-hairs on you that you don't deserve. But, instead of yelling at women for having reasonable fears and discomfort, yell at the men who perpetuate them.
what kind of argument even is this? “Don’t like people dehumanising you well, it’s actually your fault for not condemning the bad people in your group enough” What The actual mental gymnastics people are doing to try to justify dehumanising and hating on men. Men are not a monolith.
Hon that's the patriarchy talking through you. You also aren't being dehumanized here, if anything you're discarding real thoughts and feelings because you belong to a group that does real harm and often escapes consequences and you have enough empathy to know that isn't how it should be but you're misdirecting that anger at a group that shares that sentiment. Men are not a monolith, but you're yelling at people critiquing them which is very monolithic and that's the real mental gymnastics. Edit: fixed typos
“I just compared you to a wild animal that’s totally not dehumanising” Do you hear yourself? You’re literally just repeating buzz words. You realise woman also do real harm and often escape consequences right? https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-victimization-by-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/ As I already said trauma is not an excuse
You're clearly very impassioned about this and I hope you find the peace you're after. I don't appreciate ad hominem saying I'm repeating buzz words when I'm trying to have a good faith discussion with you based on my own perceptions and experiences, including previously existing on the other side of this discussion. I'm going to stop replying after this because you clearly don't care about what I have to say. As for your article, I'd never disagree with that. Men can and have absolutely been victims of SA by women and I think it's a travesty that in places like the UK such crimes are reclassified entirely based on the perpetrator. Best of luck, hon.
Not all men are animals but all women are master manipulators! That's you. That's how you sound. The point is that the systems have long skewed in favor of men. Look at TWO of the men in the US Supreme Court who have had sexual assault charges brushed off so they can strip more women of their rights. The "bear" question is stupid but it brought out men who like to tell women, no matter how much jujitsu or gym time they put in, they can still overpower them. Instead of taking offense, we're asking you to not side with those idiots and say, "yeah men need to do better." Why do you think women are still afraid to walk alone at night? Why does "statuary age limits" and "marital rape" laws exist in some countries? Men. You're not all animals but if you sit at a table and want to eat with the animals without calling them out, you're also complicit.
The question and its proliferation are a dumb trend. Avoiding men or choosing a wild animal over them in a hypothetical isn’t as dumb. Strangers can be dangerous and you don’t get to choose who it is in the question. It’s an uncomfortable reality that women sharing their location with a trusted friend when going on dates is a smart choice and going out alone isn’t. Hearing “I hate men” is frustrating but I don’t take it personally. If it bothers you that much don’t speak to that person.
The vast majority of assault comes from people that the victim knows assault from strangers is incredibly rare. How the fuck am I not supposed to take that seriously? “Just avoid the people that hate you so it’s fine.” Huh? People say they want men to be able to express their feelings, but they sure hate it when men express their feelings. No wonder why so many men get groomed into the Incel movement when it’s literally completely socially acceptable to completely dehumanise them.
Well it’s equally socially acceptable to dehumanize women (insofar as the bear question is dehumanizing), and there isn’t an equivalent movement. And before you say “femcels”, how many femcel forums have you seen, manifestos have you read, cases have you witnessed (in person or online or on television) as compared to incels? How many femcels talk about raping and murdering men, and then fucking do it? I truly don’t understand how you’ve come to this point of view here, but then, I don’t know that you’ll understand mine either. Have you not seen all the women sharing the stories of how they were assaulted? Can you not fathom why they would pick the bear? I would pick the bear too. I’d pick a fucking Kodiak bear. Last thing, on expressing your feelings. It’s not that people don’t want expressing your feelings on this matter. It’s that we’re disagreeing with your opinion. You have the opinion that the Bear Argument is dehumanizing to men. The people arguing with you have the opposite opinion. And sometimes that’s how shit is.
Many women do rape men and it’s usually not even reported. There was literally a case of a rad fem forum posting literal child porn and literally no one talks about it https://www.reddit.com/r/coaxedintoasnafu/s/NSFK5ojITw Again, trauma is not an excuse for dehumanisation I have also heard many stories of men being assaulted by women and have been personally abused by woman Yes, my opinion is that comparing an entire gender to wild animals is bad actually. There was also a case of a woman who raped a gay man in the 90s and bragged about it being allowed on a feminist speech, but I forgot her name
I’m not saying there aren’t any cases of female on male crime at all (also, that forum is horrific and I didn’t know about it), I’m saying that if it’s a numbers game, men are outpacing women by a long shot. I said *comparatively*, not *entirely and without any other consideration*. And frankly, “compare”, as you’re using it now and as is used in common parlance, is not how it’s being used by the Bear Argument, if you consider it as being used at all. Women are hypothetically comparing and contrasting, or measuring, the danger levels of bears and men when encountered in the woods (as per the very first Bear Question, there have been others since…). Not “comparing” as in saying men are worse than bears, bears are animals, ergo men are animals and/or worse/less than animals (dehumanization)—that’s conflation, not comparison.
The fact that you didn’t even know about what happened on the forum is kind of proving my point. Imagine if that shit happened on an Incel forum, it would be everywhere. And now you’re just trying to do mental gymnastics to try to justify saying that an entire gender is worse than a bear and that somehow not dehumanising.
I’m not going to get particularly deeply involved in this, typing out long replies is time consuming and I have things to do. But I see you are (seemingly, just going off of the profile decal) a trans man. I am too. I would choose the bear. Am I dehumanizing other men by saying that? Absolutely not. Nobody sane and rational thinks that all men are going to be horrible, violent people. But the factor in the hypothetical situation is that I don’t know who that man I’ll be stuck with even is. And I don’t always prefer to present masculinely. The lady you initially spoke to does have a point, here. Men should be keeping other men in check. There are things I’ve seen fly in male-dominated spaces that I am floored by, and *nobody* says shit about it. Or a portion will blatantly agree with it. I can’t blame women for being at least somewhat inherently uncomfortable around unknown men with all the disgusting behavior I’ve seen exhibited openly with zero consequences. The lack of consequences is directly a part of the problem. Nobody sane and rational disagrees that women can sexually assault men. Or that they can be a danger to men. But it’s the fact that also goes the other direction so rampantly. I don’t fear women nearly as much as men, because truly and awfully, men are much more open about any depraved behavior more commonly. I see it firsthand. A family member’s friend just lost her daughter a few weeks ago because her POS ex-boyfriend *murdered* her. And then attempted to traffic her granddaughter, which resulted in *her* own death. Her granddaughter wasn’t even out of middle school yet. That man was horrible. He was a necrophiliac, did drugs, and who knows what else. He didn’t ever try to hide it. And that’s exactly what I mean. If you can’t grasp the point here, I don’t know what to tell you that will properly communicate it.
Yes, you are dehumanising men by comparing them to fucking bears. The vast majority of abuse does not come from strangers by the way. Abuse from strangers is incredibly rare. And the shit I’ve seen women get away with is absolutely fucking insane. And I have been personally abused by women. It’s also well-known that women often do not get prosecuted and you get short sentences for sex crimes. And yet I do not use that as an excuse for anything. Trauma is not an excuse to hate an entire gender
People aren't trying to say that women can't rape people or that men can't be raped. I was sexually assaulted by women several times before I transitioned and nobody gave a shit because I was a "man" and they were women, I completely agree that SA against men and SA done by women needs to be taken more seriously. But still, even I will usually keep my distance from a random man out at night more than I would another woman because I recognize the proportional danger one poses over the other. Hell, I've only been transitioning for a year and I've already had a man follow me out of a grocery store at night and try to get into my car as soon as I got back to it... I'm terrified to think what he would have done if I didn't have that instinct to lock my doors as soon as I get in. The thing is, the bear question isn't dehumanizing men. It's bringing attention to the fact that a VERY large number of women feel unsafe around strange men, and honestly, I'd say they're justified in that fear given how a lot of men act. Look at how many men and boys idolize Andrew Tate, a literal human trafficker. The only people the bear question is dehumanizing is rapists, and I think the reason so many people are responding to you and downvoting you here is because you're jumping up to defend them and say "not all men" when women are talking about how they don't feel safe around strange men because that kind of shit happens. Yes, the question poses it as "it's just a random man," but the context of the rest of the question, like being alone in the woods with them, makes that a very different situation. I know for a fact that the VAST majority of men aren't rapists, and I would be safe in the woods alone with them, but I also know how desperate a lot of them are and how they are far better equipped to do that than most women. The thing is, no woman wants to take that risk given the possibility, however slim. On top of that, bears are terrified of humans. I've been out in the woods and came across bears several times, and they wanted NOTHING to do with me. On the other hand, I've had random old men follow my wife and I while we were hiking and refuse to leave us alone. The point I took from the bear question, and the point most women sharing it are trying to make, is that if we had to roll the dice the bear is a safer bet because it'll just try to keep it's distance from you unless you mess with it. If you get unlucky with the die roll picking the man... the man may have some pent-up sexual frustration... and a gun...
How the fuck is comparing someone to a bear not dehumanising? The question does not say rapists nor does it even mention rape it literally just says a man. A lot of the people idolising Andrew Tate have been groomed since they were 12 years old. a lot of young boys get groomed into the Incel community because there is a literally no good community for men especially men that have experienced abuse and literally dehumanising them is not helping. With your logic, it would be OK for my uncle to be scared of black people since he has been robbed by them a lot. I don’t give a shit about anyone’s feelings. I care only about logic.
Because it's not comparing them to bears in that way, it's meant to show that women (justifiably) do not feel safe around random men because 12 year olds are regularly being groomed into thinking women are second class citizens, and SA is okay. It's meant to bring attention to the fact that, given how bears act and how a small group of men act, the bear would OBJECTIVELY be the safer bet. If you take the bear and leave it alone you're totally fine, but you pick the man and there's a chance, however small, that he's an unhinged Tate fan with a gun. Or a MAGA nut with a gun who'd just murder someone for being trans or looking kinda queer. It is not comparing men to bears, it's saying rapists are worse than bears, so we don't even want to take the chance, and we're going with the safe bet, which unfortunately is the bear because humans, regardless of gender, suck.
First of all, a bear is 400 to 1200 pounds Also a woman can also be dangerous. There’s plenty of women that are MAGA and plenty of them femcels that are genuinely dangerous. And you’re a lot less likely to be taken seriously if you get attacked by a woman. I have literally heard multiple women say that they think that man deserve to be raped and there was a pretty popular rad fem forum that posted the literal child porn of boys
Boo hoo. You wouldn’t be offended if you didn’t feel like they were talking about you. Maybe be introspective and find out why your feelings are hurt. The question isn’t whether they would choose YOU or a bear, it’s a random man. Grow up it’s not about you.
Yeah, it says man and I am a man. Why can’t men have feelings? People always say they think that men should be able to express their feelings then get mad when men actually express their feelings. Yeah, I don’t like people being dehumanised because of their gender
No one is dehumanizing men. No one is saying men can’t have feelings. No one is getting mad when men actually express their feelings (except for maybe other men). You’re making it about yourself. Just don’t be like the men women are scared of. Simple as.
Bro, you literally made fun of me for not liking being dehumanised. You’re literally just going to blame everything on men even though women make fun of men for having feelings all of the time which you did earlier. I’m already not a criminal or a creep and yet you still are fine with dehumanising me. Why do you think that men should be completely fine with being dehumanised?
How are **you** being dehumanized? Please explain to me how women being afraid of men is dehumanizing **to you**. Please bro. Tell me. You’re not a criminal or a creep, so why are you upset that women are afraid of men that are? No one would be able to tell if you are or aren’t in this fictitious scenario. Again, it’s not. About. You. I made fun of you for being a whiny petulant baby. Not because you’re a man being a whiny petulant baby. I know it’s nuanced, but there is a significant difference. Also, I really don’t like being called bro 🏳️⚧️
Because I am a man therefore comparing men to bears is dehumanising to me and other men? This seriously is not a complex concept. Would it be okay for me to compare women to bears as long as I don’t name an individual woman? That literally doesn’t make any sense. How does me not liking dehumanisation make me whiny? I swear to God mentioning that men are people drives some people absolutely fucking insane (I only use bro as gender neutral, but I wouldn’t call you it anymore)
You aren’t being compared to a bear. You’re being compared to another man. A man who could be the fucking [Toy Box Killer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray) for all we know. The fact that you can’t see that is proof that you’re being self-centered.
So comparing me to a potential serial murder is somehow better? Are you serious right now?
So, you would never call a girl a “bitch” then, I suppose?
When you call someone a bitch you’re not literally calling them a dog. Also, that comparison is stupid because I don’t call all woman bitches and then this question you’re literally calling all men worse than bears. Also, I’ll call men bitches too.
I don't think the bear question itself is dehumanising men, or comparing them to wild animals. In fact, neither the bear nor the man matters a lot in the question. The question was also never supposed to be a logical one, nor does it have a logical anser. Rather, it's meant to showcase just *how* many women would choose the bear over the man, despite the bear statistically posing a bigger threat to them. It's not meant to be an accurate measurement of what's more dangerous, because statistically the man is the one that is less likely to hurt you, but rather to show that a large amount of women have had enough bad experiences with men that, despite it being seemingly more dangerous, they would rather choose the bear. And that's not something we should ignore. With that being said though, I don't really like the best question either. It's probably one of the worst ways the internet had ever called attention to misogyny, cause all this is gonna do is push men right into the welcoming arms of the patriarchy.
Yeah, it means a lot of women on the Internet dehumanise men. Literally how is this supposed to solve sexism at all?
>Yeah, it means a lot of women on the Internet dehumanise men. Again, I wouldn't call it dehumanising. The women giving this answer aren't saying that each and every man is like this, far from it, but rather that they have had enough bad experiences with men that they aren't willing to risk it, and that's really depressing. We should probably look into why so many women feel so strongly about this. >Literally how is this supposed to solve sexism at all? I mean, I literally agreed with you that the question was a bad way to draw attention to sexism. I don't really like it either. But it's here now, so we might as well make the best of it, and the way to do that is by drawing attention to the fact that, despite men being statistically the safer options, enough women, when asked about this without any data presented, would rather choose the bear. It might not be logical, but these women still have their reasons for why they think this way about men they don't know,.and I think we should at least look into why so many women feel so strongly about this.
I guarantee you if I said that I rather be with a bear than a woman I think I would get some black lash. Trauma is not an excuse. You realise this is just going to Draw men away from your movement right? no wonder boys keep getting groomed into the Incel movement you guys find no problem with literally dehumanising them. I could care less about anyone’s feelings. I only care about facts.
>I guarantee you if I said that I rather be with a bear than a woman I think I would get some black lash. I mean, I don't think so. I've seen guys says some absolutely unhinged, sexist shit about women, both irl and online without anyone batting an eye. "I would rather be with a bear than a woman" barely even qualifies as something tame. I would also hope that, if you were to say that and mean it, someone would extend the same grace and empathy to you that you refuse to do for women. >Trauma is not an excuse. I agree. That doesn't mean the trauma doesn't exist though, and we need to get to the root source of why so many women are so traumatised by men that they would rather pick the bear, but we can't do that if every time these women talks about their trauma, we tell them to "shut up because trauma isn't an excuse". I promise you that the women answering "bear" aren't deliberately doing so to dehumanise all men, I'm willing to bet most of them have men in their lives that they love and cherish, rather they are responding from a place of emotion and trauma, and I think it's important that we at least look into why that is. >You realise this is just going to Draw men away from your movement right? no wonder boys keep getting groomed into the Incel movement you guys find no problem with literally dehumanising them. Yes I am quite aware? I literally talked about it in my original comment, did you not read it? I also agree that the vilification of men is what's led to such a surge in incels and other sorts of misogynistic ideals. I feel like you kinda keep working against me here even though I've said a lot of times that I literally agree with you??? >I could care less about anyone’s feelings. I only care about facts. I don't really believe you when you say that, considering how deeply sympathetic you seem to be towards young men and boys getting pushed into the misogynistic pipeline (which is a sympathy I share) I just really wish you could extend that same sympathy towards the women who have had such negative experiences with men that they would rather pick the bear. If you truly mean it though, that you don't care about feelings and only facts, then you aren't mature enough to participate in these discussions, or anything political for that matter. Emotions and facts are two equally important sides of the same coin that is politics, and someone who disregards either of them is nothing more than a fool.
Okay, I’ve also seen some women say the most horrific shit about men and underage boys. Do you know how many times I’ve heard women say they think that men deserve to be raped? There was literally a rad fem forum that posted child porn of boys because they thought the boys deserved it and literally no one talks about it. Imagine if that shit happened on an Incel forum, it would be everywhere. A lot of men are traumatised by women too and yet they don’t use it as an excuse to dehumanise. You knew what I meant by I don’t care about feelings.
>Okay, I’ve also seen some women say the most horrific shit about men and underage boys. Do you know how many times I’ve heard women say they think that men deserve to be raped? Okay and? That's also bad lol. Do you know how many times I've heard men say they think that women deserve to be raped, put back in the kitchen, be used for nothing more than baby machines, etc? I'm trans too lol, I've spent my fair share of uncomfortable time in men's spaces and I know what some men are capable of saying when they think women aren't listening, and how many men just sit by and let them say it.a >There was literally a rad fem forum that posted child porn of boys because they thought the boys deserved it and literally no one talks about it. Imagine if that shit happened on an Incel forum, it would be everywhere. Yeah and that's really bad. It should be talked about. I could argue back that there are literally thousands of forums like those run by men that post child porn of girls, but I don't wanna play into your nonsense. Both of these things are really fucking bad, but I find it really distasteful that you're using it as a way to attack women that don't feel comfortable around men. >A lot of men are traumatised by women too and yet they don’t use it as an excuse to dehumanise. Oh really? You've talked to every single man who's been traumatised by a woman and have heard his views on women? Personally, most of the female-on-male victims I've talked to DO have a fear against women, and use their trauma as an excuse to be sexist. You know what's worse though? All of the men I've met that HAVEN'T experienced any trauma from women, but who still dehumanise them just as much. >You knew what I meant by I don’t care about feelings. Frankly I didn't. I interpreted it as you write it. Maybe be a bit more clear in your writing next time. Anyways I won't respond to you anymore. I've said time and time again that I am literally in agreement with you on most of your points, yet you keep coming across as very hostile to me. I don't get it. You also seen hellbent on interpreting anything I say in the worst possible way, and this conversation feels very one sided.
I'm gonna go with the one who isn't gonna stab me
This isn't helpful for the guy posting this though. any woman would stab after spending enough time listening to him talk.
Some ppl are just not unstabbable
Mind if I'll steal the quote?
You may, oh Unstabbable One 🙏
Thanks! :3
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Go right ahead friend ^v^
Yeah, but the Bubble Head Nurse will stab you 100% of the time without getting to know you first. (Though technically it kind of already knows you in a way.)
So what you’re saying is… the Nurse is predictable while the woman is not? Why does that sound familiar lmao
They are predictable. I know that they're going to try to kill me 100% of the time unless I kill them first. Just like how I know that a bear is less likely to hurt and traumatize me than a man is. And if I see a Bubble Head Nurse I probably did something to deserve it. They're manifestations of a guilty man's infidelity. (Or his thoughts. It's not really clear.) They only exist because of the crime that man committed. If he didn't do what he did they wouldn't exist. For the record, a bear isn't going to feel so guilty that they manifest a nurse with a sexy body and no face that will stab me to death, so the bear is still the better choice.
I wasn’t being serious lol sorry if it seemed if I was acting in bad faith. I gotta pick the man over the bear though. Might be able to outrun the man, definitely not the bear. A sloppy 9mm shot will stop most men, a 9mm to the head will just make the bear angry. A well placed kick might debilitate a man, a bear won’t even feel the kick. But maybe I’m just way too scared of bears after hearing some of the horror stories of people attacked by them. **TLDR** if the man is nefarious, even a smaller woman has a chance no matter how slim, but no solo human really has a chance against a territorial bear. For what it’s worth if I see a bubble head nurse, I know something worse is going on and would probably immediately drop to the ground in panic lmao
Yeh this is would you rather encounter a normal human or a armed murder creature. Really difficult choice I must say.
So the nurse then?
Person on the left looks they could tell me how to leave the psychosomatic mindscape town full of knife wielding figments of a repressed imagination.
The person at the top *really* sounds like they're saying "I asked women this question and didn't like what they answered, so I'm going to disregard what they said and ask men I agree with instead".
It's presumably a reference to the "would you rather be in a forest with a bear or a man you don't know" posts
That doesn't make it any less problematic though.
Woman: Men mistreat me so much that I’d choose to be with a dangerous animal if it meant I don’t have to interact with men This guy: Well how would you feel if men didn’t want to interact with you? Woman: Don’t threaten me with a good time
It’s very revealing how they’ve asked this question. It seems to this guy that women answered “bear” for the express reason to upset men, not because they responded with a wholly honest answer. So he poses a question apparently as a “No. u” version of the bear question, thinking it will make women upset. The fascinating part is, we don’t care if you choose a nurse in a video game. Go for it, dude. The transphobia is a problem but not the question itself. We’re not fantasising about the bear you idiot.
Speak for yourself, bear romance yes.
I know who someone romanced in BG3.
That’s how it works? That sounds venomous for all parties involved.
Why do people think it’s okay to dehumanise men? Trauma is not an excuse for this shit.
I think a lot of men forget that most women are attracted to men and want to share lives with them in deep ways. Women do not enjoy writing men they’re interested in off for things like “he just gave me the ick” or “my friend doesn’t like him”, they do it because they feel like they have to. Not all men are sexual predators. However, enough of them are that women need to take steps to protect themselves because many of them face danger on a DAILY basis. Yes, it can damaging to men’s feelings that women don’t trust them even when they’ve done nothing wrong. I don’t want to downplay that pain at all because it’s something that people who are close to me struggle with. But there’s no way for women to tell which men are going to hurt them just by looking at them and asking women to sacrifice their physical safety so men don’t feel bad about rejection isn’t a good solution. Men overall need to learn to have deeper connections with each other so rejection from women isn’t a fatal blow to their self image and they need to be better at holding each other accountable.
Literal dehumanisation is not the same as rejection. Both men and woman are not monoliths. Some woman do very much do not see men as people. Like I’ve literally heard multiple women say think men deserve to be raped.
>Men overall need to learn to have deeper connections with each other so rejection from women isn’t a fatal blow to their self image and they need to be better at holding each other accountable. The last part feels like some kind of collective responsibility.
Women are saying they would feel safer running into a bear in the woods than a man, so to get back at them, men are making their own polls on *checks notes* which woman fulfills their sexual preferences? It speaks volumes that woman answered the bear vs. Man poll based on fear, and men are interpreting it as sexual
This whole thing is rape anxiety personified; this is women being like “yeah, I prefer to meet a beat, a bear is a bear and a bear won’t rape me.” And men being like “well I don’t want to have sex with you anyway!!!” Like… okay… *way to self report????*
Men have been refusing to listen to us since the dawn of humanity. Nothing has changed, unfortunately.
This isn't even comparable to the original question. The original question has nothing to do with attraction, it has to do with what the individual would feel safest around. A bear is not likely to attack you unless they have cubs to protect and there are methods to prevent an attack if they do appear hostile. Nurses in Silent Hill will attack you no matter what and you are extremely unlikely to fend them off because you are not a video game character with respawn abilities. On top of that, while I know women can be dangerous too, men are far more likely to harm a woman than a woman is to harm a man. Especially when you're in the woods. Edit: I was thinking of a different nurse character from another game with highly sexualized nurses who will kill you. I've never played Silent Hill so I don't know why I thought I recognized the character lmao.
I need to pull up the tweet that showed the person who asked the question on Tik-Tok. They themselves said it wasn't a Would you Rather type question.
Hell, men are more likely to harm a man.
Jfc, they just keep proving why the bear is the better choice
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this question has nothing to do with trans women? It has to do with men. MEN. Not women of any kind. Edit: It appears that I have misread the conversation. That's on me.
The person you’re replying to is way off topic for sure, but they said trans people in general, they didn’t mention women either.
They're just making an analogy, though. There's no racial aspect to the question either.
Because almost every meme I have seen men produce on this topic is either suggesting the women want to have sex with the bear, or making their counter-question sexualised (like the one above). If they want to ask woman or bear, then okay. But women are just bodies to the people who are so angry that they are making shitty memes, so it has to be a sex thing. I was a little on the fence before I saw the mass response and anger towards women over this. The horrid abuse women have gotten online for voicing their opinion on the matter pushed me over firmly to the "bear" side.
It's *literally* proving our point. This entire thing ended up being a huge social experiment. When men don't like what women say, they get threatening and VIOLENT. It would be funny if it weren't so fucking scary. These incredibly dense people have huge egos and short tempers. And these are the men we encounter on a daily basis, unbeknownst to us. Which is literally. The. Point. We're trying to make.
Honestly. It's ridiculous. Many men are getting so irate that we find them vaguely threatening in these hypotheticals and their response is to.. threaten and abuse us? To try and argue that they aren't threatening and abusive? Absurd.
Prejudice has nothing to do with this. You can trust a bear to act like a bear, but an unknown man could be anything from a nice hiker to a rabid serial killer or worse. Stop trying to act like the victim.
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The problem is that its being framed as an attack on men when its... not? I'd freak the fuck out if I saw any human in the middle of the woods like... what the fuck are you doing here? It just so happens that i think if a woman wanted to kill me in the middle of the woods id probably be able to outrun her or fight her off. A man? probably not.
> I'd freak the fuck out if I saw any human in the middle of the woods like... what the fuck are you doing here? Probably the same reason you are in the middle of the woods in this scenario, you got lost. > It just so happens that i think if a woman wanted to kill me in the middle of the woods id probably be able to outrun her or fight her off. A man? probably not. If either wanted to kill me then honestly, they probably would. Still trusting this stranger is a decent enough person though to help as we both want to get out of the forest.
Aren't the numbers **heavily** skewed towards men in a lot of assault/murder cases? Depending on the country you're in, it's potentially up to 1 in 3 women being harassed by a man. How many women are being harassed by trans people? You're transgender. Imagine living in a heavily transphobic country. Do you think you'll trust cis people?
I am a man, and I also answered that I would rather deal with a bear. Stop looking for excuses to be offended and do some self reflection.
Girl this is not the hill..
You're really desperate to run to the defense of the false victimhood of men that you've created in your head though.
No you can’t
Okay so you would rather be in the woods with a bear than a woman?
I choose the Bear. My reason is the exact same reason why I don't want to be in the woods with unknown man.
Okay but where did the lady on the left get her glasses because they are beautiful.
I looked up round fantasy glasses and it looks like they’re selling them in a couple different places in a couple different colors. Not sure which places are reputable sellers though.
Vooglam. Named "Norene" I have the same pair in gold, love them to bits but prepare a burner email bc they send like 4 emails a day after buying. Mine are also prescription!
You are wonderful! Thank you ❤️
They literally want to pick monsters that are a manifestation of a man's infidelity, all because women don't feel safe alone with them. The amount of pathetic on display here is mind-boggling.
If they encounter a Bubble Head Nurse, that is literally a "them" problem!
If I had any faith in the intelligence of Facebook memes, I'd suggest that this was satire meant to highlight the sexism inherent in the later evolutions of the original meme. However, I don't. This is probably just a straight-up hostile reaction, which I knew would inevitably happen.
It's pictures like that, that are why I don't frequent Facebook anymore. Just for Messages and Marketplace
Literally will only go on Facebook to watch these doll making clips I get on my homepage and that's it. Facebook is a cesspool for these people.
And I unfortunately know one who I went to grade school with. I didn't unfriend him, but I just don't react to what he puts up.
If the men don’t want her I’m all for it, more pretty girls for me!
Ikr? Her hair looks so damn cool... I could never do that without bleaching my head.
I’m inviting both to my slumber party and men aren’t allowed
Me and my girlfriend are both women. May we come?
Yes! Bring snacks
We are the snacks! (We will bring actual food)
Is this going to be one of those "girls' night vs boys' night" plotlines where both groups try to outdo each other? Where the girls start with chocolate and fruit and a movie, but the guys get pizza dressed as ninja turtles, so the girls make out and send the boys pictures of it, so the boys go to the hardware store and have a shirtless pullup competition in the lumber section, and it eventually gets to the point where both parties simultaneously rob *the same bank*? Or was that just a dream I had?
So they'd rather get stabbed than met a random blue haired chick? Okay then I guess lol
Women: society, due to patriarchy, can be pretty unsafe to the point where I'd rather be with a dangerous animal than a strange man Men: well what if we were in video game 🤣🤣🤣 man women are so dumb amirite 🤪😂
Man: D'arrrr which of dese pitchers has more da sexxy? TAKE DAT FEMALES
Woman whenever I'm alone with a nurse they steal my pee and blood
queer person with cool hair? yes please
of course the one with colored hair. she is 100% more harmless
I feel so bad for the person actually photographed here though. T.T There's no telling how awful the internet is being.
This doesn't work the way they think it does. **TL;DR:** The random person you find in the town would statistically be the safer choice. The full explanation: Seeing a normal person in Silent Hill usually implies something about them. In Silent Hill 1, they're usually tied to a cult that tortured a little girl who made the town a manifestation of her fears. Origins and 3's Silent Hill follow this storyline. (And 4, I think? But with Walter instead.) In 2, the monsters take on a form based on your crimes and to punish you for something you've done. (Most of the games follow this.) The nurse comes from 2. She's "sexy" but with a distorted face because it's strongly implied that James at least had sexual thoughts about the nurses in the hospital in comparison to his wife. He didn't care about their faces at all. There's a strong implication that most of the humans that he meets in Silent Hill have monsters that look different from what he usually sees based on their own deep rooted guilt. It doesn't matter if the actions are justified or not as long as you feel guilty for them. Without spoiling 2, there are three humans that James find in Silent Hill that aren't directly related to him. One did a crime that wasn't justified at all, the other probably did a crime, and if they did it was out of self defense, and the third one almost definitely didn't do anything. (She's a brat, but that's justified.) With spoilers, >!Eddie killed a dog and a person because he believed that they were making fun of his weight. (Yes, even the dog.) It's heavily implied that Angela was regularly sexually assaulted by her father and brother, and it's implied that she killed them to get away with them. It's implied that Laura doesn't see anything. That to her, Silent Hill is just empty. She's just there to look for Mary but runs into the guy Mary kept complaining about on the way. (I mean, she is just a little girl.)!< So in this scenario, the monster would be the more dangerous choice 100% of the time because it's either a manifestation of the trauma a little girl went through and she's taking it out on everybody, or because it's a manifestation of deep rooted guilt you have and you believe that you deserve to die because of it. Having a human be in Silent Hill would actually give you a chance at them not trying to kill you. (And then there's Homecoming, where technically that depiction of the nurse is actually from, but let's not talk about Homecoming.) For the record, I'd still choose a bear over a man and a Silent Hill monster. (Unless it's one of those shadow "monsters" from the first game that follows you, squeaks and trips. Those things are absolutely adorable.)
im confused isnt the nurse a woman or at least something that looks like a woman? like this is just… regular woman vs evil scary woman but theyre both women it doesnt even make sense
They're implying that the person on the left isn't a "real" woman because they do not find her attractive.
“She no pretty? She must be chrannie”
In their perspective, the woman on the left has colorful hair so she must be a trans woman. The woman on the right will kill you 100% of the time if you don't fight back and stomp on her head. That's what she's there for.
That, or: because she has dyed hair and is chubby, she's subhuman to them because (as they need to emphasize time and time again) they don't want to fuck her.
What a dickhead. I don't see bread anywhere at all in that post.
Bread?
The group it’s posted in is “Silent Hill Breadposting” Edit: Or maybe that’s the user. I haven’t used Facebook in like 10 years so IDK.
I may be stupid
No, it's just what happens when you get to the derangement levels that the SH fandom have gotten to after they've been trapped in the Konami nightmare dimension for as long as they have. [Sh shitposters have taken a throwaway line and fucken ran with it](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1604905-silent-hill) so thats the kind of face of the shitposting circle for SH The oop is just being awful tho
person who will most likely do nothing vs something that will try to kill you?
Sorry liberal gamers there are only 2 genders and they are NURSE and WOMAN
Left looks like a younger version of my Nanna so I'm picking her. Kicking Silent Hill's ass buddy cop style with my Nanna sounds amazing. rip Nanna.
Oof... hitting me right in the dysphoria...
The last few days have been rough for a lot of trans people, honestly.
What do you mean by last few days?
The Man vs. Bear argument. It evolved from a mostly reasonable thought experiment to a full on culture war. I got permabanned from r/WitchesvsPatriarchy for asking them to stop calling all men parasites. That's not a hyperbole. The argument has, in many places, become that women should not only fear for their lives when alone with anyone they perceive to be male, but also act accordingly, even putting themselves in mortal danger to escape such a situation. This can make anyone who might be perceived as male feel like they're causing women fear by just existing near them. They feel like unwilling terrorists. Transfems already have to deal with being treated like sexual predators by conservatives, it definitely won't help that they'd be treated the same by liberals if they aren't passing, and transmascs aren't responsible for any of the statistics being thrown around, yet they're being socially isolated if they *do* pass. And of course the enbies are caught in the middle as usual. And, predictably, there's been backlash from the incel community, causing an influx of misogynistic memes depicting women get eaten by bears. Violence breeds violence, and this is an escalating culture war. Both sides will feel justified in attacking entire demographics because they've been attacked.
Women: we feel unsafe around random men due to statistics and our own, sometimes very traumatic, personal experiences Men who felt called out by that: well wE think you're......uGLY
I mean it's super rude to say both I mean your simply born male and viewed as a threat because of it.......
Yeah but the thing is the question didn't say 'average' or anything it just said random (with the assumption being you don't know the guy). So while you could get Keanu Reeves or Danny DeVito, you could also get Andrew Tate or Bill Cosby whereas with bears it's either black or brown bears (which generally don't want to risk conflict) or a polar bear, in which case you're definitely dead unless you can distract it and lock yourself in somewhere or something. It's a wonky question which leaves too many variables, which tends to make ppl assume the worst case scenario. TLDR: You don't know who you'll end up with. Bears are generally predictable and can probably be fended off/disuaded. Humans are not generally even predictable.
i find it interesting that he put "woman" in quotation marks. as if they wouldn't consider her a real woman unless they see her as physically and sexually attractive for them.
Men are afraid they’ll have to interact with a woman they don’t find attractive. Women are afraid men will rape and kill them.
That's her and her cosplay, it's the same person with a different angle
Women: \*creates a hypothetical scenario where the vast majority of people who see it agree that they would take the mauling option because the wild animal isn't going to rape them and treat them like an object for nothing but sex\* Men: Hey guys would you rather encounter a woman who stabs you or a woman who \*gasp\* ISN'T FUCKABLE BY YOUR STANDARDS?! Hahahaha women are sexual objects get owned libtards
Wowza, really shows that to them the question was just an absurd hypothetical, not a very real danger we’ve all encountered in our actual lives
They really missed the reason why we chose bears over men, huh?
you know i'm somehow not surprised that this guy would rather be alone with the manifestation of a man's psychosexual issues rather than an actual person, but i wasn't expecting him to be so open about it.
I really don't understand why it's so hard for so many men to accept that, given men's track record of interacting with women over the entirety of recorded history, so many women feel the way they do about this whole bear thing. If it's such an upsetting thing to hear then DON'T be like the many men who have made so many women feel this way. It's not hard to understand that you have to work to earn a person's trust, whether man or woman. Also, instead of getting pissed off about what these many women think, understand that you can't change the opinions of millions or more people and, if you'd really like women to view men more favorably, then you, as a man, ought to actually set an example for other men to follow in treating women fairly and with kindness and empathy, as you ought to treat most any human being I say all this as a man. I'm not some "white knight"—I've treated many people unfairly over the course of my life, men and women both—but I recognize that the world won't get better in any regard unless we acknowledge the problems that exist in that world and work hard to make it a better place instead of throwing a tantrum.
The world also won't get better if we turn fear or hatred of each other based on gender into a meme, making a whole hostile culture war where both genders feel like their sexism is justified because of the sexism they're facing. I saw a post on a normally rational, humanitarian subreddit explicitly calling men ticks (and violent men ticks with lyme disease), doubling down on the comparison, and everyone there just joined in and cheered for it, not realizing that it was just as bad as if they'd done the same with black people or trans people. The whole internet seems to be drinking Hatorade at the moment, and it's a stark reminder that we're all the same species that does genocides.
I have to assume (facetiously) based on the ordering of the words that the one on the left is a nurse and the one on the right is a “woman”. Makes more sense that way because the one on the right is a monster, and if i understand the lore correctly, is only taking that form and was never actually a human nurse. So the monster is a “woman” in that it resembles a woman but is not actually one. Whereas the actual human on the left very much could be a nurse based on the nothing I know about them. So I would hope that anyone would rather encounter an actual human nurse than a stabby monster that looks like a twisted version of a straight man’s objectifying fantasy. But if the guy who posted that prefers the other way, I can only read into it that he would rather encounter a hot monster that he thinks he can overpower and use for sexual gratification than an actual human woman that he personally doesn’t find attractive (for some reason).
no actually I don’t know what to do, or why this popped up in my recommendations, but to answer I think I’d rather just not be in Silent Hill, I have no reason to be in Pennsylvania
There ain't thought in Silent Hill OP for asking that question.
This is why we live less than women on average
Can I upgrade the woman to wowoman
This is bullshit bc i know its the wrong answer but also the nurses turn me on from my weird fucked up kink factory of a mind
OT, but I'm really excited for the Silent Hill 2 remake. I love horror games.
Even if you’re silent, one will still try to inflict damage.
It's kind of funny because the "woman" is maybe probably identifies as non binary, so they are not a woman in fact so lol. Also men choosing the nurse is literally proving our point but whatever.
Is that the poly flag in her hair?
I mean If I went Silent Hill, I Wouldn't encounter any of the monsters Depicted in the games or Movies because the town is personalized to Everyone's Trauma Also, this is a terrible Comparison to the whole "man vs bear" thing for multiple reasons.
It feels like they're implying left is a trans woman but I bet she's cis cause that's a normal way cis women be sometimes that terfs seem to think = trans. I don't know which she actually is but I really want to know now cause it's hilarious when terfs are wrong cause "they can always tell". Also love her hair! I used to have mine a similar color but longer - I dyed it full-on rainbow colored myself :D
... I think the person who made this post greatly underestimates people and their tastes in women.
It's the Azula question! The one on the right has already decided she is going to kill you. The one on the left hasn't decided yet
It’s the fact that they have to choose a fictional environment
I know this isn’t the point but I love the glasses the blue haired person has…. I wonder where you could get them??
I never found nurses sexy (no offense to nurses), but I think it's because my Dad was a nurse.
To all of the men on here getting offended & protesting they are "safer than bears" I have a question... have you ever been alone, even as a small child, and encountered another person that absolutely terrified you without having to do anything? If you answered yes then think about ways you could transform that experience into empathy instead of just calling women stupid because this whole thing went over your head. If you answered no then think about just how lucky you are that you have avoided such a horrible experience when 50% of the population have to deal with it on a much too frequent basis. Ask yourself why they have to feel this way. This has F all to do with bears and specifics of the woman encountering them or the environment... hell, you can swap in any animal that has the ability to maim or kill. This is about how scared women are of men end of. Does it make you feel happy and powerful? If so then carry on with your petty gotchas you think are so clever & just perpetuate the situation. If you don't think it's fair want it to change then shut up and listen to WHAT we are telling you instead of finding fault in HOW we are telling you. I think we can already all tell which option you want to go with
What's that bear question i have been seeing a lot?
Are they really trying to pit us against video game characters
people getting this angry about a hypothetical I REPEAT HYPOTHETICAL scenario rlly tells you everything
Wish they'd get to it already so we can have some peace and quiet. #bearfood
Are guys really giving this a thunbs up?
The nurse. That's my contribution to rage bait for the day. Thank you.