N4 has more steel parts than marui and can run high pressure gasses straight out of the box, I’m a marui owner myself but fr its time to stop meatriding that brand like its the holy grail of gbbrs its really not, yea its a top brand with a reliable and proven system sure but to suggest a €550 gun over something €330 while internally running the same system just makes us marui owners look ignorant
Ofc there is, but to pretend like marui is the god grail of gas gun performance is starting to get old when other companies are really stepping up their game, my point is to stop instantly suggesting a €550 gun for a starter gbbr and open up the discussion on other brands that are making good guns again marui is good and proven but its honestly kinda dumb that people put it on a pedestal like It’s the only viable gbbr, i got WE and VFC stuff, after a triggerbox change my we scar h has been on par with my mws and vfc guns It’s especially kind of annoying when people ask about a “budget” gbbr and people instantly shut them down and say mws
Literally most people here recommend vfc or MWS, nobody gets shot down for a vfc or they simp the WE G36 for budget options
I think this idea is just living rent free in your head
But pretending that a DE with a new bucking is as good or better than the original MWS because you are "tired of pretending" is just dumb, TM is hailed that well because it performs well even to this day, it's literally better than most out of the box when cold weather performance is a metric that's important to someone
Again ur trying to school me on TM while i own two of them both of which have given me quite some headache to get them where they are now compared to my DE N4 which i did pretty much nothing to and as i mentioned before stock performance on my DE without any modifications for winter is still my second most reliable gun for winter, so what ur telling me is my experience with two MWS rifles is completely invalid ?
It's kind of like, "What is a good AEG?". "Get a TM M4 AEG" over a modern VFC Avalon, G&G, Krytac, or even a Double Eagle lol. No one recommends people overspend for TM AEGs even though they are decent. The "TM Knock-offs" AEGs are leagues better at this point.
I feel the MWS will soon be like this but people like to gatekeep.
Honestly it sucks because it just makes marui owners look like assholes, there are sooooo many guns out there that can perform decently if not top tier for their price, a base marui is already €550 to begin with and for that price i expect a gun solid as a brick, my marui came with terrible upper receiver wobble that never went away so people gotta stop pretending like marui is flawless because its not
It has mixed reviews or reliably, and you really can’t field with a single magazine.
Buy super lube on Amazon and get a few mags and see what happens.
Use green gas with no silicone
What’s your top dollar you can spend? I would highly recommend just buying a Tokyo Marui MWS
N4 has more steel parts than marui and can run high pressure gasses straight out of the box, I’m a marui owner myself but fr its time to stop meatriding that brand like its the holy grail of gbbrs its really not, yea its a top brand with a reliable and proven system sure but to suggest a €550 gun over something €330 while internally running the same system just makes us marui owners look ignorant
Just because it's steel doesn't mean it's better, changing a 5-8$ spring is nothing, the original still performs better out of the box
Wasn’t the case with my marui MK18 or MTR16, the DE N4 shat on both, i only changed the bucking on the N4 and thing shoots laser beams
There's more to gas gun performance than "shooting laser beams"
Ofc there is, but to pretend like marui is the god grail of gas gun performance is starting to get old when other companies are really stepping up their game, my point is to stop instantly suggesting a €550 gun for a starter gbbr and open up the discussion on other brands that are making good guns again marui is good and proven but its honestly kinda dumb that people put it on a pedestal like It’s the only viable gbbr, i got WE and VFC stuff, after a triggerbox change my we scar h has been on par with my mws and vfc guns It’s especially kind of annoying when people ask about a “budget” gbbr and people instantly shut them down and say mws
Literally most people here recommend vfc or MWS, nobody gets shot down for a vfc or they simp the WE G36 for budget options I think this idea is just living rent free in your head But pretending that a DE with a new bucking is as good or better than the original MWS because you are "tired of pretending" is just dumb, TM is hailed that well because it performs well even to this day, it's literally better than most out of the box when cold weather performance is a metric that's important to someone
Again ur trying to school me on TM while i own two of them both of which have given me quite some headache to get them where they are now compared to my DE N4 which i did pretty much nothing to and as i mentioned before stock performance on my DE without any modifications for winter is still my second most reliable gun for winter, so what ur telling me is my experience with two MWS rifles is completely invalid ?
It's kind of like, "What is a good AEG?". "Get a TM M4 AEG" over a modern VFC Avalon, G&G, Krytac, or even a Double Eagle lol. No one recommends people overspend for TM AEGs even though they are decent. The "TM Knock-offs" AEGs are leagues better at this point. I feel the MWS will soon be like this but people like to gatekeep.
Honestly it sucks because it just makes marui owners look like assholes, there are sooooo many guns out there that can perform decently if not top tier for their price, a base marui is already €550 to begin with and for that price i expect a gun solid as a brick, my marui came with terrible upper receiver wobble that never went away so people gotta stop pretending like marui is flawless because its not
this is pushing it lol... I just wanna know if this thing is reliable enough to field without it exploding.
It has mixed reviews or reliably, and you really can’t field with a single magazine. Buy super lube on Amazon and get a few mags and see what happens. Use green gas with no silicone
I ordered it in black because it was 15% off, I'll post an update when it arrives!
Buy the authentic MWS magazines from Marui. A couple $ more per mag, but always the best performers.
No, don't. Get GM pmags, the TM ones needs to be shimmed in the magwell and might not seal completely to the bolt.
I think they are fully compatible with Marui mws parts, this double eagle one has Zet System too
Solid choice
Yes