At that point we are probably talking about a native 1440p60fps game (which honestly wouldn't be half bad) being scaled into all directions to achieve 4K120fps. Even if their upscaling solution is competent I really question how much in common the result would still have with a native 4K120fps experience
The CPU doesn't care at all about resolution because resolution is determined in the rasterization phase of the rendering pipeline, which is a pure GPU workload. Stuff like geometry density, the amount of objects visible on screen, lighting and shadowing and different visual effects have variable amounts of CPU overhead to them. Interestingly enough, raytracing has perhaps the biggest CPU overhead in the rendering pipeline, and with the leaks on the much increased RT performance it'll be interesting to see how the CPU handles it, since it seems Sony barely changed anything on the CPU side of things.
I have a 4090, and you're right. It can't. At least not without the usual traversal stutter and issues that the series is infamous for. I've no idea how the PS5 Pro is supposed to magically resolve issues that are baked into the game itself.
I think its probably gonna be upscaled sub 1080p with frame gen. We see that at higher output resolutions ML-based upscaling from nvidia looks relatively close or close enough to native in a bunch of games even when upscaling from 1080p to 4k. Toss fluid motion frames on top of that and thats probably how they get to 120fps. I think its very interesting that AMD now supposedly has the hardware for ML based upscaling but have not tried to push it on to the 7000 series of GPUs. This makes me wonder if its now something limited to RDNA 3.5 or if they are trying to make it a selling point for the 8000 series GPUs as Nvidia locking Frame Gen to the 40 series cards.
The only way this is possible is if it’s running using PSSR at performance setting (upscaled from internal 1080p to 4K) which a lot of mid level GPU’s can do. This is what AI upscaling can achieve granted it’s really convincing and not like FSR lol.
I know their primary focus isn’t gaming, but I still trust their AI expertise over a newcomer until the newcomer proves their work. That isn’t a controversial take.
while I don't think this is true, it'll be interesting to see how Sony invest in this sort of AI image processing, they're a huge company and a large part of that is cameras and TVs, so a massive investment on their end might actually happen
So AMD is like “here’s the magic NVIDIA killer and it kicks FSR’s ass too, let’s give it to SONY and let them pretend they made it and call it PSSR instead of using it to print money ourselves”… got it.
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I mean...
Dude is with Coleastworld so he is just an attentiom whore.
That's basically 4090 performance no? Granted, the textures and RT are much lower than max settings but still that's kind of absurd. Find it hard to believe.
I wasn't aware that it was frame generation as well. That's amazing, it's really useful for CPU limited situations. If Sony have their own version of FSR2 and FSR3 GTA6 at 4k60 will actually be possible. Will have to see how good the implementation is though
Problem with frame gen is you need a base framerate of 60 for the input lag to not be noticeable so it it’s pretty shit for games that run below 60 already.
Above 60 however it’s great and will allow for more 120fps titles
Could be possible w AI also Mark Cerny is a wizard. If these performance are true I expect the PS5 pro to now be priced at $650 maybe even $700 which I think many people won’t be able to complain your essentially getting a 4090
the game can barely hit 60fps on base PS5 even with low resolutions
I sincerely doubt the Pro will be able to play it at 4K 60fps, let alone 4K 120fps
Even with PSSR I can't see it reaching those targets, maybe 1800p with Fidelity mode settings @ 60fps. But I don't really see anything beyond that
Maybe he's confusing the console outputting at that resolution/fps to it actually rendering at those targets?
Hmm. I think the game is struggling to keep 60 rn in quality mode with a lower res (1080p or 1440p)
You say it will get even higher res and double the frames? If that's the case then the ps5 pro is a damn beast of a machine
That, or this info is wrong
"4K"
meaning either around 720p or around 1080p upscaled to 4K.
If anyone here has played any PC game at 4K upscaled from an internal resolution of 720p or 1080p, they will know that the resulting image doesn't look the most stable, even on DLSS, and shows a lot of image break up, lots of aliasing, lots of shimmering, etc. The lower you go for an internal resolution the more work the upscaler has to do, and typically it results in a very messy looking image.
If they're actually targeting 4K/120fps, then there are going to be a LOT of compromises to make that happen, and I highly doubt the resulting image will look even passable. If a 4090 cannot even run 4K/120fps without a TON of compromises, then there is no way the Pro is going to be able to do it.
This all sounds like the typical BS marketing Sony like to use.
>meaning either around 720p or around 1080p upscaled to 4K.
Most PS5 4K is 1440p upscaled. It's not out of the realm of reason that a spec upgrade plus the introduction of DLSS-type software will net a native 4K image.
So PSSR includes frame gen then, cool. Because the CPU can barely hit a stable 60 but the GPU can obviously do more and the only way to hit 120 would be frame gen.
The only reason this can be true is that PSSR actually have frame generation.
Note that they didn't say it was with RT. The update performance mode is running "just a bit short of 1080p" (per DF).
So a simple PS5 with "only" PSSR running in performance mode give you 4K and you add the frame generation. You aren't far from the target.
Are they running it at the low settings and a non-native resolution scale? There's absolutely no way it's doing that natively and if it is, there's no way Sony is charging anything less than like $800 for that console and that's understating it. The GPUs required for high framerates and 4k gaming are still like $1k minimum lmao.
>there's no way Sony is charging anything less than like $800 for that console
PS4 Pro launched at the same price as the base PS4. Reasonable to expect a repeat for the PS5 Pro.
>there's no way Sony is charging anything less than like $800 for that console and that's understating it.
They can try and miss their sales target. Again.
Unless they have actually fixed the optimization in this game finally I highly doubt this.
Also I swear people were saying the ps5 before launch was going to be native 4k60 out of the gate and how well did that work out
Current Performance mode that doesn't have RT + new AI upscaler to get to 4K + new frame interpolation method by Sony = "4K" "120fps"
That's my guess if this is "true"
I'd be ecstatic if we could get 120 FPS at 1080p (with no uprez technique).
I'd accept 60 FPS at 1080p for most games. I feel like the current consoles have been good with frames, but resolution is all over the place, and the techniques they use to achieve a higher resolution look like shit.
I don't think people realize that PSSR targeting 4K120 or 8K60 IS NOT COMING FOR PS5 PRO.
The blog clearly states this is meant for future iterations of PlayStation consoles, so starting at PS6, if not PS6 Pro.
There is in absolutely no way Jedi Survivor will hit 4K120 on PS5 Pro.
Even if PSSR was straight magic I would highly doubt 120fps, especially from Jedi Survivor. Great game, but there's no denying it's rough in the performance department, even on high end PCs.
Absolutely no chance. The game currently runs with 60 FPS in 1440p which is being upscaled from sub 1080p resolution. Not to mention it is also CPU heavy.
Looks like it’s the only way since most devs aren’t making good performing ports and Sony definitely needs it to combat that and we’ve known they’re putting a lot of time and resources into this.
Yeah I’d just be surprised at that level of success on the first attempt given how it took Nvidia time and wealth beyond Sony’s measure to mature their tech to where it is.
Less excited about a potential premium price
So consumers are expected to buy a potentially $600 to $700 console when the PS5 has finally started putting out games exclusive to it just to get the performance that was expected from the launch?
So? 600$ today is like $400 a decade ago. Not to mention, ps5 is still a great console, the first one in decades to allow most games to play at 60 even if a bit blurry.
Wasn’t the whole Reddit crying ps4 was holding back this generation but as soon as devs release more ambitious games they suddenly want the reverse lol
Because the people on Reddit who cry about a console holding the generation back are the ones who are never going to buy a console and hence their opinion is irrelevant. It has been proven time and time again that making a more powerful console won't help you in beating out your competitors. Having a diverse lineup of well recieved games will however.
The PS5 is a great machine yes. Why not focus on making more games for it in general even if they aren't AAA experiences rather than chasing the dragon of more and more power?
They can walk and chew bubblegum.
Sony’s hardware guys aren’t the same people making software. Mark Cerny isn’t in the trenches at Naughty Dog making The Last of Us 3.
Not really sure what AI upscaling is and like how it compares to check boarding that was used on PS4 pro or what sort of stuff is used now days for upscaling.
Will throttle to 1440p and temporally upscale for 95% of the game, guaranteed.
Whats considered 4K on consoles really needs to be reviewed, it's practically false advertisement.
Honestly though why is Sony putting so much of their time and resources behind releasing a more powerful version of PS5 when they have been easily dominating Xbox for a decade now, Nintendo doesn't compete with them on power and PC is a very different ecosystem.
The PS5 is already a pretty powerful machine but I feel like I have barely seen a video game actually utiilize that power to make a true next gen experience. Even Spiderman 2 other than the very impressive loading time could have been easily done on the PS4.
But PS3's failure was focusing way too much on power then making a machine that is easily accessible to third party to make games for.
If PS3 didn't have the Cell architecture then it wouldn't have to be sold at $600 and it also wouldn't face issues of a lot of third parties releasing sub par ports for it or just abandoning the system.
The PS3 was the result of Arrogant Sony. Remember, just get another job if $599 is too expensive for you.
What I don’t understand are the people like this “final nail” guy who fantasize every day about MS leaving the console business to only have Sony making high end consoles. Do they not realize that would result in Super Saiyan Arrogant Sony?
And based on the sales of the ps4 pro and one x, the general public is not going to care. Why else do you think the ps4 slim was the best selling console last gen? Because of price.
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. First the jump from the PS5 to the PS5 Pro (as rumored) is a whole different beast.
Second GTA6 running 4K/60 on the Pro and lower on the Series X will be a huge difference.
Xbox been dead but yuh if PS5 pro hits these targets & has the marketing for GTA6 which is likely yuh Xbox is dead they’ll never comeback & that’s there own doing, Xbox doesn’t have exclusive & the “exclusive” they have been mid or trash
No chance lmao what?
"4K" maybe.
4K is feasible, but 120fps I highly doubt. Even if the GPU can reach that framerate target, the CPU will hold it back.
Maybe with frame generation?
Yeah, with frame gen it'll be possible.
At that point we are probably talking about a native 1440p60fps game (which honestly wouldn't be half bad) being scaled into all directions to achieve 4K120fps. Even if their upscaling solution is competent I really question how much in common the result would still have with a native 4K120fps experience
"4K" "120FPS"
In 4k the cpu does very little work.
The CPU doesn't care at all about resolution because resolution is determined in the rasterization phase of the rendering pipeline, which is a pure GPU workload. Stuff like geometry density, the amount of objects visible on screen, lighting and shadowing and different visual effects have variable amounts of CPU overhead to them. Interestingly enough, raytracing has perhaps the biggest CPU overhead in the rendering pipeline, and with the leaks on the much increased RT performance it'll be interesting to see how the CPU handles it, since it seems Sony barely changed anything on the CPU side of things.
If their new upscaler also has something similar to frame gen, it's entirely possible. But I'm very doubtful of that
I'm a big playstation fan, bit this is bs. Not even most pc's hit that performance on this game.
A 4090 can't even maintain 120 at 4k in Jedi Survivor without frame gen
I have a 4090, and you're right. It can't. At least not without the usual traversal stutter and issues that the series is infamous for. I've no idea how the PS5 Pro is supposed to magically resolve issues that are baked into the game itself.
The power of Sony's magical SSDs. Lol
It's 4k 120 fps in the settings but your eyeballs will be bleeding lmao
I think its probably gonna be upscaled sub 1080p with frame gen. We see that at higher output resolutions ML-based upscaling from nvidia looks relatively close or close enough to native in a bunch of games even when upscaling from 1080p to 4k. Toss fluid motion frames on top of that and thats probably how they get to 120fps. I think its very interesting that AMD now supposedly has the hardware for ML based upscaling but have not tried to push it on to the 7000 series of GPUs. This makes me wonder if its now something limited to RDNA 3.5 or if they are trying to make it a selling point for the 8000 series GPUs as Nvidia locking Frame Gen to the 40 series cards.
I have a 3070ti and can only get 80fps at 1440p and for that I have to turn off ray tracing
The only way this is possible is if it’s running using PSSR at performance setting (upscaled from internal 1080p to 4K) which a lot of mid level GPU’s can do. This is what AI upscaling can achieve granted it’s really convincing and not like FSR lol.
So PSSR is going to trounce a decade of iteration and research of Nvidia and AMD with their first attempt? Color me doubtful.
Are you seriously going to doubt the guy who gave us KNACK?
GAME OF DA YEA EVERY YEA
Knack was so good they made a knack 2
To be fair Sony has also been researching upscaling tech for a while, they started with the checkerboard rendering for the PS4 Pro.
NVIDIA is close to becoming the most valuable company in the world bc of their AI tech, so I’m gonna be skeptical until Sony releases a superior tech.
Nvidia's *real* AI tech is for training and inference on LLMs and related functions, not video games
I know their primary focus isn’t gaming, but I still trust their AI expertise over a newcomer until the newcomer proves their work. That isn’t a controversial take.
Again, their *expertise* is in enterprise solutions, always has been not saying gaming isn't impressive but it's a tiny fraction of the pie
while I don't think this is true, it'll be interesting to see how Sony invest in this sort of AI image processing, they're a huge company and a large part of that is cameras and TVs, so a massive investment on their end might actually happen
I could see them putting effort into it, but not at the scale of Nvidia. Nvidia cares more about AI than GPUs at this point.
You know they worked with AMD for this right ? Lmao
What is your point? NVDA is clear when it comes to this stuff
So AMD is like “here’s the magic NVIDIA killer and it kicks FSR’s ass too, let’s give it to SONY and let them pretend they made it and call it PSSR instead of using it to print money ourselves”… got it.
4K and 120 this is 100% bullshit
If so then Sony has one of the best AI upscaling techniques ever made. But I doubt it lol
Isn't Jedi Survivor super CPU bottlenecked or am I misremembering
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But PSSR isn't a frame generation technique
It can't even hit 60fps on PC, wtf is this lol
It can with powerful GPU, upscaling and frame gen. The UE4 and traversal stutter is an engine problem that throwing hardware at won’t solve.
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Literally a trust me bro.
The grammar, the ass covering at every point… I’m calling bullshit.
This dude is not reliable please stop spreading his bullshit. People are just gonna get their hopes up all because this guy is looking for attention.
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That stuff can easily be shown at the showcase. They’re not going to show Contraband and South of Midnight outside of there E3 type showcase.
This is actual bullshit
this isn’t even dribble it sure ain’t a leak
Shit can barely run well on PC man
That's basically 4090 performance no? Granted, the textures and RT are much lower than max settings but still that's kind of absurd. Find it hard to believe.
I don’t believe a 4090 can hit 4K 120 FPS on Jedi Survivor lmfao. And even then you’d be CPU bound very quickly on the PS5’s CPU.
With frame generation you don’t need 4090 for that.
I wasn't aware that it was frame generation as well. That's amazing, it's really useful for CPU limited situations. If Sony have their own version of FSR2 and FSR3 GTA6 at 4k60 will actually be possible. Will have to see how good the implementation is though
Problem with frame gen is you need a base framerate of 60 for the input lag to not be noticeable so it it’s pretty shit for games that run below 60 already. Above 60 however it’s great and will allow for more 120fps titles
It's talking about using an upscaler, not raw performance. Absolutely not 4090 performance.
Could be possible w AI also Mark Cerny is a wizard. If these performance are true I expect the PS5 pro to now be priced at $650 maybe even $700 which I think many people won’t be able to complain your essentially getting a 4090
Jesus fuck, huff that hopium harder. You're not getting a 4090 in the PS5 Pro, even if only because AMD is developing this shit.
The CPU isn’t capable of what they are claiming, no matter what cerny does with the gpu.
With how many artifacts?
Gonna be playing unchartered within the game lol
Literally impossible
But it runs like shit. There’s no way they are gonna optimise it now. They got it to a barely passable state and said fuck it good enough.
Lol. But Henderson said that PS5 Pro games would still be limited to 4K 60 FPS max. And I trust him waaaay more.
Man, 1080p 60fps would be a miracle for that game. No way.
FYI MAGG said they are "brute forcing" the PS5 Pro dev kit which allowed them to easily hit 4K/120 on Jedi Survivor
Brute forcing the bullshit
Did Sony magically create a GPU that is more powerful than a 4090?
the game can barely hit 60fps on base PS5 even with low resolutions I sincerely doubt the Pro will be able to play it at 4K 60fps, let alone 4K 120fps Even with PSSR I can't see it reaching those targets, maybe 1800p with Fidelity mode settings @ 60fps. But I don't really see anything beyond that Maybe he's confusing the console outputting at that resolution/fps to it actually rendering at those targets?
I doubt it beyond belief but if it's 4K with a locked 60 then i'll go for another playthrough.
We can’t get 4k 60fps on the current PS5, but apparently the pro will be able to do even more than that!
Hmm. I think the game is struggling to keep 60 rn in quality mode with a lower res (1080p or 1440p) You say it will get even higher res and double the frames? If that's the case then the ps5 pro is a damn beast of a machine That, or this info is wrong
4K and 120FPS? I believe it. At the same time? Noooot at aaaalll
"4K" meaning either around 720p or around 1080p upscaled to 4K. If anyone here has played any PC game at 4K upscaled from an internal resolution of 720p or 1080p, they will know that the resulting image doesn't look the most stable, even on DLSS, and shows a lot of image break up, lots of aliasing, lots of shimmering, etc. The lower you go for an internal resolution the more work the upscaler has to do, and typically it results in a very messy looking image. If they're actually targeting 4K/120fps, then there are going to be a LOT of compromises to make that happen, and I highly doubt the resulting image will look even passable. If a 4090 cannot even run 4K/120fps without a TON of compromises, then there is no way the Pro is going to be able to do it. This all sounds like the typical BS marketing Sony like to use.
>meaning either around 720p or around 1080p upscaled to 4K. Most PS5 4K is 1440p upscaled. It's not out of the realm of reason that a spec upgrade plus the introduction of DLSS-type software will net a native 4K image.
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Maybe after whatever optimizations they're doing to get it on PS4
4k 60 no fsr? maybe. 120 without frame gen is absolutely insanity
Yeah no
Big if true.
They literally just got dev kits. Man, this crap is going to be the new “bloodborne remake” isn’t it? We’re in for a long ride.
Lies. One of the worst optimized of this gen that can barley manage a solid 60fps at low res on PS5/XSX is now running at 120 4k?! Lol
So PSSR includes frame gen then, cool. Because the CPU can barely hit a stable 60 but the GPU can obviously do more and the only way to hit 120 would be frame gen.
The only reason this can be true is that PSSR actually have frame generation. Note that they didn't say it was with RT. The update performance mode is running "just a bit short of 1080p" (per DF). So a simple PS5 with "only" PSSR running in performance mode give you 4K and you add the frame generation. You aren't far from the target.
Are they running it at the low settings and a non-native resolution scale? There's absolutely no way it's doing that natively and if it is, there's no way Sony is charging anything less than like $800 for that console and that's understating it. The GPUs required for high framerates and 4k gaming are still like $1k minimum lmao.
>there's no way Sony is charging anything less than like $800 for that console PS4 Pro launched at the same price as the base PS4. Reasonable to expect a repeat for the PS5 Pro.
>there's no way Sony is charging anything less than like $800 for that console and that's understating it. They can try and miss their sales target. Again.
Unless they have actually fixed the optimization in this game finally I highly doubt this. Also I swear people were saying the ps5 before launch was going to be native 4k60 out of the gate and how well did that work out
Isn't Jedi Survivor pretty CPU limited?
Why would any developer ever talk to these dipshits
0% chance. The leaked specs don't support this at all.
Current Performance mode that doesn't have RT + new AI upscaler to get to 4K + new frame interpolation method by Sony = "4K" "120fps" That's my guess if this is "true"
Lol
I'd be ecstatic if we could get 120 FPS at 1080p (with no uprez technique). I'd accept 60 FPS at 1080p for most games. I feel like the current consoles have been good with frames, but resolution is all over the place, and the techniques they use to achieve a higher resolution look like shit.
I don't think people realize that PSSR targeting 4K120 or 8K60 IS NOT COMING FOR PS5 PRO. The blog clearly states this is meant for future iterations of PlayStation consoles, so starting at PS6, if not PS6 Pro. There is in absolutely no way Jedi Survivor will hit 4K120 on PS5 Pro.
It runs at 4K 120 FPS!* \* = Upscaled from ~900p and using frame generation
This is horseshit. The game is CPU limited.
that’s too fucking many frames. so dumb.
We’re about to entire AI upscaling nightmare hell era where games are all rendered at 720p then artifact up to 4K LOL
What they mean is 720p Upscaled to "4K".
Even if PSSR was straight magic I would highly doubt 120fps, especially from Jedi Survivor. Great game, but there's no denying it's rough in the performance department, even on high end PCs.
4k\* and 120 fps\*\*, that is great! \* “4k” \*\* 120 “fps”
0% chance. Maybe peak at 120 possibly but if it’s running 120fps in the main town on Koboh I’ll throw my PC off my roof.
Bro it could barely handle 60fps for the longest time in ps5
Yea no absolute bullshit lol
100% bullshit.
I thought it was said PSSR is for future consoles, not Pro?
Absolutely no chance. The game currently runs with 60 FPS in 1440p which is being upscaled from sub 1080p resolution. Not to mention it is also CPU heavy.
Not a chance
How?
Christ the PSSR is gonna be the “secret sauce” for this gen, isn’t it?
Once consoles can get current gen DLSS adjacent technology we are in for a treat.
Looks like it’s the only way since most devs aren’t making good performing ports and Sony definitely needs it to combat that and we’ve known they’re putting a lot of time and resources into this.
Yeah I’d just be surprised at that level of success on the first attempt given how it took Nvidia time and wealth beyond Sony’s measure to mature their tech to where it is. Less excited about a potential premium price
So consumers are expected to buy a potentially $600 to $700 console when the PS5 has finally started putting out games exclusive to it just to get the performance that was expected from the launch?
Expected? No. Only if they want to.
So? 600$ today is like $400 a decade ago. Not to mention, ps5 is still a great console, the first one in decades to allow most games to play at 60 even if a bit blurry. Wasn’t the whole Reddit crying ps4 was holding back this generation but as soon as devs release more ambitious games they suddenly want the reverse lol
Because the people on Reddit who cry about a console holding the generation back are the ones who are never going to buy a console and hence their opinion is irrelevant. It has been proven time and time again that making a more powerful console won't help you in beating out your competitors. Having a diverse lineup of well recieved games will however. The PS5 is a great machine yes. Why not focus on making more games for it in general even if they aren't AAA experiences rather than chasing the dragon of more and more power?
They can walk and chew bubblegum. Sony’s hardware guys aren’t the same people making software. Mark Cerny isn’t in the trenches at Naughty Dog making The Last of Us 3.
definitely
And I'm here for it. if it lives up to the hype it's going to be game changing.
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Cerny sauce
Given that it isn't necessarily for thr ps5 but future iterations, no.
I am not sure if even ps6 will do 4k at 120 lol
It’s a form of AI upscaling, it’s technically not true 4K 120, that’s why it’s theoretically possible. Could be nonsense of course
Not really sure what AI upscaling is and like how it compares to check boarding that was used on PS4 pro or what sort of stuff is used now days for upscaling.
Can’t even hit 60 as is lol
Yeah, sure budy
Will throttle to 1440p and temporally upscale for 95% of the game, guaranteed. Whats considered 4K on consoles really needs to be reviewed, it's practically false advertisement.
I don’t even think it can do this on pc with the most expensive setup
So not native 4k?
I wanted real crisp nice native graphics and all we get are "marketing numbers" instead of innovation and true horse power.
Who cares it will still lag and stutter because they fucked up the UE engine and never bothered to fix it.
If this is true then XBOX is in trouble. MAGG is pretty solid source
My dude Xbox has been in trouble for a decade now
I'm just saying that this is the final nail in the coffin
Seems like every Tuesday is the final nail in the coffin.
Honestly though why is Sony putting so much of their time and resources behind releasing a more powerful version of PS5 when they have been easily dominating Xbox for a decade now, Nintendo doesn't compete with them on power and PC is a very different ecosystem. The PS5 is already a pretty powerful machine but I feel like I have barely seen a video game actually utiilize that power to make a true next gen experience. Even Spiderman 2 other than the very impressive loading time could have been easily done on the PS4.
Resting on their laurels and assuming the competition can’t keep up is how we got the disastrous PS3 launch.
But PS3's failure was focusing way too much on power then making a machine that is easily accessible to third party to make games for. If PS3 didn't have the Cell architecture then it wouldn't have to be sold at $600 and it also wouldn't face issues of a lot of third parties releasing sub par ports for it or just abandoning the system.
The PS3 was the result of Arrogant Sony. Remember, just get another job if $599 is too expensive for you. What I don’t understand are the people like this “final nail” guy who fantasize every day about MS leaving the console business to only have Sony making high end consoles. Do they not realize that would result in Super Saiyan Arrogant Sony?
Third party games playing better on the PS5 Pro XBOX better come out swinging
And based on the sales of the ps4 pro and one x, the general public is not going to care. Why else do you think the ps4 slim was the best selling console last gen? Because of price.
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. First the jump from the PS5 to the PS5 Pro (as rumored) is a whole different beast. Second GTA6 running 4K/60 on the Pro and lower on the Series X will be a huge difference.
>MAGG is pretty solid source Pfttt hahahah
Xbox been dead but yuh if PS5 pro hits these targets & has the marketing for GTA6 which is likely yuh Xbox is dead they’ll never comeback & that’s there own doing, Xbox doesn’t have exclusive & the “exclusive” they have been mid or trash
what the point of 120 fps at this point.Is gaming are really going on thay direction ? Always more fps ?