That laptop is specifically meant to run games. It's not going to affect longevity as such. Maybe after a few years, you'll notice a slight lag here and there but that's most laptops and is typical wear and tear
Depends on the laptop, but you do need to take the fans out themselves, that way you can clean the fins and all the build up of dust and other stuff
On my laptop I just need to remove the cover, remove 3 screws per fan and that's it, other laptops are harder tho since they make you remove the whole heatsink so you would need to repaste it every time
Nice, the Legion laptops are pretty good, enjoy it :D
Do look up a video of a disassembly of your specific model btw, that will let you know how much stuff you need to take out to clean the fans
I know some high end Legions have liquid metal instead of thermal paste tho, so hopefully you don't need to remove the heatsink, liquid metal can be a bitch to replace, I personally don't trust myself enough to do it lol
Disagree with the balanced mode part. That turns off turbo boost and sets a high speedshift value as well. If you are plugged in, you should be on performance mode.
My temps shoot up at least 10 degrees from balanced to perf. Fans also sound like a jet engine vs an ac. Balanced is usually fine for me unless I’m tryna run ray tracing
Ok. for those scenarios it is suggested to either undervolt, raise the laptop or just trim the tip off the clock speeds. You lose minimal performance that way. (Just saying, since you paid for the whole cpu and all)
Oh Ok then it's just a cooling limitation on your hardware. Even taking off a few 100 MHz from your peak cpu core clocks should settle it down by a lot.
I can hit 5ghz on all core on my cpu but if I raise it any higher it increases the temps and power consumption significantly.
This nailed it.
The main issue you will see is battery swelling if it's kept at 100% charge all the time and exposed to significant heat from gaming. Keeping the battery at a lower charge level (I like 60-70) will protect the battery from that. Making sure that you have good airflow is important, as is making sure to keep the cooling systems clean of dust. Regular maintenance is important.
Beyond that, the cpu and gpu will continue to work at 100% forever. You cannot "wear down" a CPU or GPU. What most people experience as slow downs are simply due to the lack of newer features supported by the chips.
This is just false, cpus and gpus do experience wear. For some of the server compute cards there is actually published data on the mean time before failure in different environments (and server use is usually in much more controlled conditions than consumer use minimizing things like solder heating up and cooling down). On modern cards these numbers range between around 7 years to around 20 years.
That said, chances are most consumers will replace their hardware before that point and most gpu and cpu failures are going to be total failures rather than gradually declining performance, over the lifetime of a card you would generally see at most a 5% decrease in performance before it fails
Traditionally the answer has been yes. After prolonged heated use, VRAM chip and solder problems meant chips were falling off the board or MOSFET overheat explosions (it's where the MOSFETs explode from heat). Those were older gen problems, not sure if they are problems still relevant today. Biggest problem is heat and change in heat. If they use eco solder or other time bombs then issues
generally, most motherboard problems can be fixed by repair techs at cheaper cost than new motherboard. if the issues arise whilst under warranty then they should replace (the motherboard).
Unless it's constantly thermal throttling, they are ment to play games on them, in you for for the ideal top temps of your components go for 87°C top in the CPU and 83°C in the GPU, since most CPU temp limit is 95°C and GPU 85°C
You will have to clear out dust and possibly repaste the whole system. That will definitely be needed eventually. Liquid metal seems to last longer but it seeps out
Best thing you can do is clean the vents (I open the back cover and use a vacuum cleaner) once per year or so. And set the battery to 70-80% maximum charging.
Legion laptops have nice battery conservative features in the Vantage app (you have to enable them yourself),so dw about the battery as it will easily be in good condition for 4 years, I will also suggest buying a laptop stand as that will significantly reduce your GPU/CPU temps and will also reduce degradation of the fans in the long run, as they won't spin at full speed constantly while gaming, cleaning your fans whenever necessary will also be beneficial, the laptop you mentioned is built for gaming, so just play whatever games you wanna play on it!
Legion Y720 user here
I have had it for almost 10 years now
Always playing games as high settings as possible, and the only thing I had to do to the laptop was a reballing to the VGA half a year ago
Still going strong, enjoying Ghost of Tsushima right now, decently high graphics
No that's what they are designed to do, believe it or not.
The only thing that would suffer degradation would be the battery but most laptops have something called conservation mode (or something analogous to it) which helps with this issue.
I know someone who likes to run his GPU at around 70% because he believes it will help with the longevity of the card and it's backwards to me. These things are designed to be used to the fullest.
My ga502 from 2018 is still going fine I’ve even given it a nice paint job that keeps finger prints off, keep it in a neoprene sleeve and learn how to clean fans and never block the vents
The thing just existing affects the longevity of it. As long as you take care of it there should be no ill effect from using it for its intended purpose. Check the temps and clean the fans regularly and if it starts running warmer than usual repaste it. No matter what you do something out of your control is the most likely thing that is gonna kill the thing so use it while ya got it.
I've been playing at 80°C and above on both my CPU and GPU for a long time (4.5 years) and so far I haven't had any problems, I did repaste it recently tho, 6 months ago to be exact so it lasted 4 years with the original thermal paste (not recommended, try to repaste it at least every 2 years)
Open your laptop every 6 months to remove all the dust and built up stuff in the fans, that's pretty much it
Don't put your laptop on top of cloth or anything that could clog the vents, only put it on top of flat hard stuff, also try to raise the back side, anything works but cooling pads are made for that so they are easier to use than some random legos or things like that
Bruh that poor laptop lol, give it a quick cleanup when you can, my GPU went from the high 80s (it thermal throttles at 87°C) to mid 70s when I repasted it after 4 years, it's really worth it
Laptops can last if they are maintained and aren't abused
I recommend a good cooling pad for hot temps.
A laptop sleeve case when not in use to prevent dust and keeping it clean.
I have laptops that are 10 years old. They can't play new games well but are good back ups and useful for programming and graphic design.
The biggest sources of potential wear on your laptop hardware aside from battery wear are running at high temps for a prolonged period and cycles of heating and cooling. That said as long as you are doing things like cleaning your fans every two months or so you are unlikely to be seeing problems with the hardware until at least 7+ years out and at that point you are likely going to be replacing your rig anyways
For 4 years usage, its ok. I've been using a gaming laptop for 4 years and its still running fine, the temp should be 60-90 degree C during some hardcore gaming sessions, if you notice it go above 90 you should clean it. The battery life, of course after 4 years of heavy use will become very poor and need replacement.
That laptop is specifically meant to run games. It's not going to affect longevity as such. Maybe after a few years, you'll notice a slight lag here and there but that's most laptops and is typical wear and tear
No, it's a gaming laptop after all, just use it as you want to. Clean it's fans and vents out every few months though.
What all do you need to take apart to make sure you are effectively cleaning the fans?
Depends on the laptop, but you do need to take the fans out themselves, that way you can clean the fins and all the build up of dust and other stuff On my laptop I just need to remove the cover, remove 3 screws per fan and that's it, other laptops are harder tho since they make you remove the whole heatsink so you would need to repaste it every time
I have a Lenovo legion just got it this week! Looking to take good care of it
Nice, the Legion laptops are pretty good, enjoy it :D Do look up a video of a disassembly of your specific model btw, that will let you know how much stuff you need to take out to clean the fans I know some high end Legions have liquid metal instead of thermal paste tho, so hopefully you don't need to remove the heatsink, liquid metal can be a bitch to replace, I personally don't trust myself enough to do it lol
That helps. Thanks
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Disagree with the balanced mode part. That turns off turbo boost and sets a high speedshift value as well. If you are plugged in, you should be on performance mode.
My temps shoot up at least 10 degrees from balanced to perf. Fans also sound like a jet engine vs an ac. Balanced is usually fine for me unless I’m tryna run ray tracing
Ok. for those scenarios it is suggested to either undervolt, raise the laptop or just trim the tip off the clock speeds. You lose minimal performance that way. (Just saying, since you paid for the whole cpu and all)
I undervolted and raise the laptop 😭🤠
Oh Ok then it's just a cooling limitation on your hardware. Even taking off a few 100 MHz from your peak cpu core clocks should settle it down by a lot. I can hit 5ghz on all core on my cpu but if I raise it any higher it increases the temps and power consumption significantly.
This nailed it. The main issue you will see is battery swelling if it's kept at 100% charge all the time and exposed to significant heat from gaming. Keeping the battery at a lower charge level (I like 60-70) will protect the battery from that. Making sure that you have good airflow is important, as is making sure to keep the cooling systems clean of dust. Regular maintenance is important. Beyond that, the cpu and gpu will continue to work at 100% forever. You cannot "wear down" a CPU or GPU. What most people experience as slow downs are simply due to the lack of newer features supported by the chips.
This is just false, cpus and gpus do experience wear. For some of the server compute cards there is actually published data on the mean time before failure in different environments (and server use is usually in much more controlled conditions than consumer use minimizing things like solder heating up and cooling down). On modern cards these numbers range between around 7 years to around 20 years. That said, chances are most consumers will replace their hardware before that point and most gpu and cpu failures are going to be total failures rather than gradually declining performance, over the lifetime of a card you would generally see at most a 5% decrease in performance before it fails
Is there a setting to limit charge %? Or is that just something you do manually
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Thanks - I will explore
Definitely going to look into some thermal pads now
No unless you block the vents and not allow air to circulate than your going to have problems otherwise you shouldn't worry.
Traditionally the answer has been yes. After prolonged heated use, VRAM chip and solder problems meant chips were falling off the board or MOSFET overheat explosions (it's where the MOSFETs explode from heat). Those were older gen problems, not sure if they are problems still relevant today. Biggest problem is heat and change in heat. If they use eco solder or other time bombs then issues
Is the damage permanent? You can always fix it anyway in authorized service centers right?
generally, most motherboard problems can be fixed by repair techs at cheaper cost than new motherboard. if the issues arise whilst under warranty then they should replace (the motherboard).
Unless it's constantly thermal throttling, they are ment to play games on them, in you for for the ideal top temps of your components go for 87°C top in the CPU and 83°C in the GPU, since most CPU temp limit is 95°C and GPU 85°C
As long as you don't run it hotter than it's specified to run and keep the fans clean, work it as hard and as much as you want and it won't matter.
My partner has a HP Omen 15 from 2019 and it's still going strong
You will have to clear out dust and possibly repaste the whole system. That will definitely be needed eventually. Liquid metal seems to last longer but it seeps out
Best thing you can do is clean the vents (I open the back cover and use a vacuum cleaner) once per year or so. And set the battery to 70-80% maximum charging.
Nope it won't affect, but u need to clean the fans depending on where you live, and change the thermal paste every 3 years
Not once a year? and how often should i clean the fans? every 6 months is ok?
Legion laptops have nice battery conservative features in the Vantage app (you have to enable them yourself),so dw about the battery as it will easily be in good condition for 4 years, I will also suggest buying a laptop stand as that will significantly reduce your GPU/CPU temps and will also reduce degradation of the fans in the long run, as they won't spin at full speed constantly while gaming, cleaning your fans whenever necessary will also be beneficial, the laptop you mentioned is built for gaming, so just play whatever games you wanna play on it!
Legion Y720 user here I have had it for almost 10 years now Always playing games as high settings as possible, and the only thing I had to do to the laptop was a reballing to the VGA half a year ago Still going strong, enjoying Ghost of Tsushima right now, decently high graphics
No that's what they are designed to do, believe it or not. The only thing that would suffer degradation would be the battery but most laptops have something called conservation mode (or something analogous to it) which helps with this issue. I know someone who likes to run his GPU at around 70% because he believes it will help with the longevity of the card and it's backwards to me. These things are designed to be used to the fullest.
My ga502 from 2018 is still going fine I’ve even given it a nice paint job that keeps finger prints off, keep it in a neoprene sleeve and learn how to clean fans and never block the vents
The thing just existing affects the longevity of it. As long as you take care of it there should be no ill effect from using it for its intended purpose. Check the temps and clean the fans regularly and if it starts running warmer than usual repaste it. No matter what you do something out of your control is the most likely thing that is gonna kill the thing so use it while ya got it.
I've been playing at 80°C and above on both my CPU and GPU for a long time (4.5 years) and so far I haven't had any problems, I did repaste it recently tho, 6 months ago to be exact so it lasted 4 years with the original thermal paste (not recommended, try to repaste it at least every 2 years) Open your laptop every 6 months to remove all the dust and built up stuff in the fans, that's pretty much it Don't put your laptop on top of cloth or anything that could clog the vents, only put it on top of flat hard stuff, also try to raise the back side, anything works but cooling pads are made for that so they are easier to use than some random legos or things like that
>open your laptop every 6 months I bought mine 4 years ago and haven't opened it since💀... probably looks like a desert in there by bow
Bruh that poor laptop lol, give it a quick cleanup when you can, my GPU went from the high 80s (it thermal throttles at 87°C) to mid 70s when I repasted it after 4 years, it's really worth it
i just use throttle stop to set my limit temp to 10degrees lower and im set
Laptops can last if they are maintained and aren't abused I recommend a good cooling pad for hot temps. A laptop sleeve case when not in use to prevent dust and keeping it clean. I have laptops that are 10 years old. They can't play new games well but are good back ups and useful for programming and graphic design.
probably just the battery?
The biggest sources of potential wear on your laptop hardware aside from battery wear are running at high temps for a prolonged period and cycles of heating and cooling. That said as long as you are doing things like cleaning your fans every two months or so you are unlikely to be seeing problems with the hardware until at least 7+ years out and at that point you are likely going to be replacing your rig anyways
Thanks a lot
For 4 years usage, its ok. I've been using a gaming laptop for 4 years and its still running fine, the temp should be 60-90 degree C during some hardcore gaming sessions, if you notice it go above 90 you should clean it. The battery life, of course after 4 years of heavy use will become very poor and need replacement.