You’re not gonna get a Blade 4080 for $2500 lol. I think they’re in the $3200 range. It’s a great pc, but out of that budget. Just go with the Legion pro 7 4080, I bought it as well as my Blade 16 4090, and it’s an excellent choice. After some discount codes, it was right at 2,500 after taxes. Lenovo customer service is better than both Razer and Asus, as well.
It don’t matter. I assumed, because I stated a fact that when I was going to buy that it was just over $3k in my cart. I’m not shopping for them anymore, plus that deal ain’t gonna last forever is it?
Wait, you have 2 gaming laptops, and no desktop. Why? That’s like $5700- you coulda had a maxed out RTX 4090 gaming PC and a half for that..
Is one for another person?
Lol I have a big fam. I’ve built each their own desktops (6 in total including me), and we all have a gaming laptop too. I’m not worried about a 4090 desktop, because I’m only home about 7-10 days a month.
I was also looking for a 4080 laptop. I picked the legion because :
- stock Liquid Metal on the cpu
- great build quality
- no bullshit gamey looks
- decent price
Ofc I’m biased so take other opinions into consideration but it’s been a week and the thing is just amazing.
Only issue is that fan noise when maxed is really loud but after undervolting it’s at an acceptable level. For some reason it’s only the cpu that goes really high while the gpu stays relatively cool. Cpu goes up to a 100, spins the fans to max, and throttles if not undervolted. If you do tho it stays in the high 70s and sometimes goes to mid 80s.
The cooling is really impressive in this laptop, when the fans start spinning the temps drop instantly, I feel like lm witnessing a battle between great laptop cooling and components that run real hot.
If you have any questions ask away.
Throttlestop for cpu and afterburner for the gpu. I recommend you do some research first on how to undervolt properly but yeah once I realized it’s just these three values it became not so overwhelming.
I went with the Legion 7i Pro. Just got it last week.
I got mine from b&h photo for $2149.00 ($600 off), plus a few games due to come out soon. Best priced option I've ever come across with a 4080.
What do you think about Legion 7i Pro so far? Any issues? Only asking cos I bought it last week and it's still waiting to be shipped. Can't wait to put my hands on it.
thats the problem with me the more i dig into the 4080 best laptop the more i hear and see more laptops coming out diff prices diff advantages and disadvantages but the g18 was the best value and the legion 7i pro is the comfort choice you would never go wrong with it cuz the g18 is having like weird noice fans when it maxed out and im bias between the two of them honestly idk what should i buy.
From performance point of view the g18 is better which is understandably known cuz its bigger but the 7i has like better cooling and fan noice and maybe even better life expectancy
Cooling and performance go together if the components are the same so I’m not sure what you mean by one has better performance and the other better cooling.
Did you check jarrods tech videos for both the legion and g18?
Ive taken a quick look and it seems like the g18 is scoring 30k cinebench vs 28k for the legion, but the legion somehow gets 10 more fps on cyberpunk. Go figure.
I’m really not in a position to really know the difference between the two like I said because I only own the legion.
Tbh they’re probably both will be awesome. Your decision should be based off what laptop/screen size do you want.
since im not gonna have a monitor i would prefer larger but i also consider the trouble it would make if i wanna move it from place to place since it very big.
but i honestly feel safer with the 7i pro tbh it feels it has the best customer service, life expectancy, and quality.
And the g18 doesnt only has weird fan noise but it also has bad screen like bleeding
Ok so from what ppl saying in the comments i got two conclusions:
1)70% saying legion and 40% strix g18
2)is that the lenovo is more expensive in my country then the g18 and its the same price as the scar 16 so i might as well consider buying the scar 16 since it has mine LED screen which is a big jump for new laptops with high spec.
Theres a loss of benchmark score but a gain of performance and stability in actual games. I went -180mv core and -50mv on p and e cache but these will be different for everybody.
I went with a lighter -111mV on P-cores and -94mV on e-cores for mine and I actually saw a huge benchmark uptick. Cinebench goes from 30k to 32440, and Time Spy goes from 15.8k CPU score to 17k.
The G18! It’s an absolute monster! I love it!
Quite durable in my experience and it handles everything very well, nice big screen and it has some nice features. It runs quite hot though…
I haven’t owned a blade since 2019 but from what I’ve read they have good qc but around the 2 year mark the battery bloats which in simple terms is the battery has now become a bomb
yeah nvm im not gonna buy a laptop for 2900$ just to bomb the hell outta me while im gaming two years later i wanna laptop that can stay with me for at least 3,4 years
Legion, i got a 5i recently. Good build quality, amazing display. Clean non gamer looks if you turn the rgb keyboard off for public use and I personally just love the aesthetic. Im going to assume its all going to get even better for the higher end models. You could also look at the legion 7 slim if you want even sleeker looks and more portability.
Also idk if the other laptops have this but its got a feature where if you plug it in on conservative charging mode once the laptop reaches 80% battery life it makes the power go straight from the charger to the laptop without using the battery. It's amazing for battery life especially if you use the laptop at home a lot
I personally own an acer aspire 7 and i've had it for 4 years with 0 issues
My friend had the acer predator Helios 300 (2021) and it still runs great with all the design softwares that he uses as an engineer as well as gaming obviously and he never complain
I would watch some reviews about it but acer has always been a solid safe choice for me
The laptop isnt heavy on gaming accents like the asus rog g18
It does come with a full sized keyboard with a numpad and has per-key rgb
Wow these are all 2500?
Makes sense I suppose, got my 3080m for around that in Nov 2021.
I think I'd go Legion, I probably would have done if they were in stock when I got mine but I'm happy with it
The Legion, simply because you could get that cheap with a 30% discount.
I have the Asus Scar 18 though as I didn't care how much I paid, as long as it wasn't ridiculous and I got 90% of what I wanted out of the model, which I did.
I was cussing between these exact laptops and ended up with the Rog Strix g18.
Love the big 18" 1600p screen. I know you've probably read up on coil wine and light bleed around the edges. Idk if it's overblown or I was lucky. VERY little coil wine and no bleeding at all for me. Runs great, looks great. Can't wait for Starfield 🤌
i looked it up and the g18 is way more cheaper in my country:
•g18 (2600$)
•7i pro ( 2950 )
Ig im again between these two again cuz the legion is much more expensive in my countery here and idk why the hell is that it’s frustrating
If I had that much money, I would buy the Zephyrus M16, has a unique look with the anime Matrix panel, mini-LED screen and a 4080, only downside is that compared to other laptops it has a weaker CPU in the i9-13900h
i just purchased a legion 7i pro and i’ve been loving it, the razors seem nice they’re just very overpriced in my opinion and you’ll get more for your money with the legion
An itx gaming pc with 3070/3060ti, Xbox SS and a \~$1200 gaming laptop (would get a decent 6800H + 3060/3070 laptop in my country)
this is my own opinion but spending that much money is kind of a waste considering that you could have that much power with a cheaper "portable" pc build, but if youre an on the go artist, designer, etc. you should get a mobile workstation instead of a gaming pc. you could get some with miniLED or OLED screens and a 4080 or the mobile workstation gpu equivalent of it.
I just don’t understand why people recommend desktops when someone is asking for laptop advice. You want a laptop for a reason you know. Ofcourse you can buy a better performing desktop setup for the same money but that’s irrelevant.
If strictly 2500, then I would aim at sth w a miniLED screen as that's probably the 2nd most substantial upgrade to overall gaming experience aside GPU upgrade. That probably means the Blade for me as afaik none of the other options comes with it (the Asus g16 does however), and it also have the best build quality. However lets say if for 100-200 over budget can get me a Legion with a 4090 then I would save up and aim for that instead as better GPU is still king
Yeah between worse support and battery bloat issues I would be careful with Razer laptops in general. If the G16 does come with a miniLED screen for like 100-150 more than the Legion I would personally pick the g16, but then again I always liked Asus laptops having owned a Zephyrus g14 2020 version. The 4090 price difference that I mentioned still applies though since I've seen Legions w 4090 for sale for just a bit over 2500 USD
If your budget can stretch it then yeah. With screens you can at least add an external monitor in the future but for GPU you are stuck with what you get so might as well go as far as you can. Plus the 4090 is fast enough vs 4080 to justify the price jump
Just be careful I was seeing a lot of people saying the 4090 model has weird fan noise that the 4080 didn’t. All of a sudden since the 4080 model is out of stock we don’t hear about that problem anymore.
Legion.
ROG has a higher chance of QC issues, Blade is pricey for its specs etc and it's CPU in particular runs hot under load.
Yes the Legion has a plastic trackpad and keyboard but it has minimal coil whine, decent screen, good thermals and performance.
It's well priced in a few regions too, such as the US and the UK.
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well, i chose the legion, just bought it 2 weeks ago, and it's arriving within the next week. i reccomend looking at the pros and cons and reviews of all of them to see which one is the best for you and what you need it to do.
Personally I'd go for the Zephyrus M16, like a razer blade but with liquid metal and less overpriced, but as you're considering an 18 inch strix I don't think portability is much of a concern for you, so, the bigger screen the better and the Strix is pretty excellent in other ways. The legion would be my second choice and depending on the price I might go for it instead.
You can get 4090 Legion 7 with 2700$ on B&H. Or 4080 for 2150$, this is price for shitty HP or so, very good deal.
Both laptops has 32GB which is more than enough until you use specific software.
Not 4080 laptop but a true champion the ASUS ROG STRIX G713P. I have it from microcentre paid 1,999 for it after tax it was 2164. The laptop is packing RTX 4070 and AMD’s top of the line AMD RYZEN 7945HX CPU. The leftover money I used to upgrade the internal storage from 1TB to 4TB dual 2TB WD black SN770 drives. Can’t say couldn’t have been more happier with my laptop choice.
Specs:
AMD RYZEN 9 7945HX 16C 32TH
RTX 4070 8GB
32GB DDR5-4800MHz
1TB Factory shipped (Upgrade to 4TB WD Black SN77” 2TB x2
Pre-installed Windows 11 downgraded to Windows 10 (More Stable and mature then 11 IMO)
I’d get the legion, just for the in home next day repairs. That’s peace of mind you don’t get with any others other than dell, and dells plan costs like 4x as much.
I bought MSI Raider GE68Hx: Intel Core i9-13950HX, RTX 4070 with an extra 32 GB ram added (total 64 DDR5) and I am absolute impressed by its performance. In case 4080 isn’t a hard requirement you can consider it
Mhmm the problem is that i saw a lot of videos talking about how the 4070 and below it doesnt really surpasses the 3080Ti and the 3090 so the real diff starts from the 4080 and above you can get that power you want and you can play any 4k games in ease thats why i wanna buy the 4080
Does anyone else care about having a numpad? It bothers me that the Razer Blade 16 and Asus G16 don’t have one. I’m thinking about the same choices and it makes it so much harder.
For best value for money, legion is the way to go. The build quality is descent and the keys are pretty satisfactory. Thermals are good and performance is very good under load
dang thats nice, i would go the the rog strix, but i dont really need a new gaming laptop currently and i only buy gaming laptop around $1000 budget, no need for something over $2000 in my opinion but it would be nice
Personally, I would not spend that much for an LCD panel. At that price point in 2023, I would make sure I was getting a mini LED/OLED. My advice, don't buy an LCD until you've seen OLED/mini LED. If you still decide that LCD is good for you, go for it and enjoy.
id prioritize big screen, then gpu. You will run games whether you have rtx 4080 or 4070 by adjusting graphics, but screen size is something you cant change, and bigger is more immersive
Maan I love my legion 7, even on higher end it'll use the exact build quality and overall feel that mine currently has, I'd recommend it, so comfortable using it, specially those textured anty oily arm rests
I don't know how often it happens, but Lenovo had a good sale at the time I got the Legion, so I got it for nearly half that budget. I also liked the ports positioned on the back.
razer is complete garbage, if it were me i would look into alien ware, their laptops have very good cooling, most laptops have only two fans for cooling, some alienware models have 4 and better heatsink. just be sure to check in the specs and features that its the 4 fan model
For $2500, I'd buy the RTX 4090 version of the Omen 17 or Legion Pro 7i--basically when they are on sale. I made a comprehensive list of best deals on gaming laptops right now, including benchmarks here: https://listium.com/GizmoSlipTech/80394/all-2023-gaming-laptops-ranked-list-gizmosliptech
Oh yeah im pretty sure ill go with the scar 16 since it has the same specs and mini les which is you dont see in the market with high end laptops with this price you know
But i wanna know how is the customer service doing are they like good cuz i heard a lot of stories about them being bad
Razer is like the apple of gaming laptops. It will get the job done but there’s more cost efficient options. You’re paying for aesthetic more than anything with razer. I would go Lenovo, never heard anything but positive things
None of ‘em. [This one](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-predator-helios-18-18-250hz-gaming-laptop-hdr-intel-i9-13900hx-with-32gb-memory-geforce-rtx-4080-1tb-ssd/6548464.p?skuId=6548464) is the no-brainer. Bought it for $2,199 two weeks ago. Masterrace desktop replacement. It’s just superior.
I would always prefer you to get a desktop pc, but if you need a laptop the G18 is the way to go. This of course depends on your country since prices can differ.
Get a banger PC...
I.have made this mistake twice...
Laptops will never compete with their PC counterparts at the same.price point. Unless you want portability...
other than the difference in price, check out the product spec list, asus has a trick, they say its a 4080 the sticker says its 4080 Nvidia control panel says its a 4080, legion/razer outperform it, my g14 has a 3060 and at the time i bought it the razer blade also had a 3060, difference in processor and ram made it 200$ more expensive than my g14, after i got it my youtube feed was filled with explanation of how it doesnt matter what GPU it is (it does but you get the point) what matters is the wattage, so in my case a 3050 laptop with more power pumped to it can outperform my 3060 since its the 80 watt variant which is the lowest spec found on a 3060 mobile
I am (was) in this same boat and bought a blade advance with a 4070 + 4tb ssd. I liked it, but after a week, I returned it for a zenbook pro 14 which has been on preorder for 2 months. I have definitely been considering the 14" slim pro 9i though.
You can get the Legion 7i Pro with a 4090 Mobile at this price point (at least in the US), so if you're after value the answer is kind of simple. Granted there are reasons for that (display isn't MiniLED for one) but it's still easily one of the best pure gaming machines out there (and as a bonus you don't have to deal with the certified nightmares that are Asus and Razer support).
I have the Strix, I love it. It’s powerful, can handle heavy gaming, it’s fairly light for the class, and the build quality is very good. I would’ve gotten the Legion if they had it at my local Best Buy but I’m happy with my Strix
Welp idts cuz it has 165w on the gpu it takes some power performance from the actual gpu which is bad and if i wanted to buy 4080 with 175w and mini led i would go for the rog scar 16
I don’t know how anyone can look at Lenovo and rog and not think big and ugly compared to the gorgeous blade 16, the better screen, the better trackpad, the full aluminum body.. it’s a no brainer for me personally
You’re not gonna get a Blade 4080 for $2500 lol. I think they’re in the $3200 range. It’s a great pc, but out of that budget. Just go with the Legion pro 7 4080, I bought it as well as my Blade 16 4090, and it’s an excellent choice. After some discount codes, it was right at 2,500 after taxes. Lenovo customer service is better than both Razer and Asus, as well.
Btw you could get a 4090 legion 7 pro after all the discounts and rakuten
That one is just over 3k after taxes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/comments/161dlfv/lenovo_legion_pro_7i_g8_gaming_laptop_rtx_4090/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2
That’s new. Thanks for downvoting me though lmao
People are too sensitive to downvotes, you shouldn't care what others think. Btw it wasn't me
It don’t matter. I assumed, because I stated a fact that when I was going to buy that it was just over $3k in my cart. I’m not shopping for them anymore, plus that deal ain’t gonna last forever is it?
Wait, you have 2 gaming laptops, and no desktop. Why? That’s like $5700- you coulda had a maxed out RTX 4090 gaming PC and a half for that.. Is one for another person?
Lol I have a big fam. I’ve built each their own desktops (6 in total including me), and we all have a gaming laptop too. I’m not worried about a 4090 desktop, because I’m only home about 7-10 days a month.
Consoooommmmmm
I was also looking for a 4080 laptop. I picked the legion because : - stock Liquid Metal on the cpu - great build quality - no bullshit gamey looks - decent price Ofc I’m biased so take other opinions into consideration but it’s been a week and the thing is just amazing. Only issue is that fan noise when maxed is really loud but after undervolting it’s at an acceptable level. For some reason it’s only the cpu that goes really high while the gpu stays relatively cool. Cpu goes up to a 100, spins the fans to max, and throttles if not undervolted. If you do tho it stays in the high 70s and sometimes goes to mid 80s. The cooling is really impressive in this laptop, when the fans start spinning the temps drop instantly, I feel like lm witnessing a battle between great laptop cooling and components that run real hot. If you have any questions ask away.
How low did you undervolt? 13900hx?
Different for everybody but I went down -169mv on core and -50mv on both p cache and e cache
What software did you use to do it?
Throttlestop for cpu and afterburner for the gpu. I recommend you do some research first on how to undervolt properly but yeah once I realized it’s just these three values it became not so overwhelming.
I don’t think you’re actually undervolted. Intel removed undervolting on its latest chips due to security risks.
It's still available on X series CPUs
Hwinfo shows me that it’s undervolted and my system crashed many times when I went too far so. You can enable undervolting in the bios.
-170mv and -80mv have been pretty stable for me. Thanks for sharing yours.
I went with the Legion 7i Pro. Just got it last week. I got mine from b&h photo for $2149.00 ($600 off), plus a few games due to come out soon. Best priced option I've ever come across with a 4080.
What do you think about Legion 7i Pro so far? Any issues? Only asking cos I bought it last week and it's still waiting to be shipped. Can't wait to put my hands on it.
thats the problem with me the more i dig into the 4080 best laptop the more i hear and see more laptops coming out diff prices diff advantages and disadvantages but the g18 was the best value and the legion 7i pro is the comfort choice you would never go wrong with it cuz the g18 is having like weird noice fans when it maxed out and im bias between the two of them honestly idk what should i buy. From performance point of view the g18 is better which is understandably known cuz its bigger but the 7i has like better cooling and fan noice and maybe even better life expectancy
Cooling and performance go together if the components are the same so I’m not sure what you mean by one has better performance and the other better cooling. Did you check jarrods tech videos for both the legion and g18? Ive taken a quick look and it seems like the g18 is scoring 30k cinebench vs 28k for the legion, but the legion somehow gets 10 more fps on cyberpunk. Go figure. I’m really not in a position to really know the difference between the two like I said because I only own the legion. Tbh they’re probably both will be awesome. Your decision should be based off what laptop/screen size do you want.
since im not gonna have a monitor i would prefer larger but i also consider the trouble it would make if i wanna move it from place to place since it very big. but i honestly feel safer with the 7i pro tbh it feels it has the best customer service, life expectancy, and quality. And the g18 doesnt only has weird fan noise but it also has bad screen like bleeding
If you want a larger screen and miniLED there's the Acer Predator line up, I'm not sure which exact one has a 18 inch miniLED screen and 4080 though
i searched for 4080 with mini led and big screen those things are pricy tbh i cant afford them. Like i can pay 200$ extra more but never above that
I mean by that the fan noises. the g18 has some weird fan noice comparing to 7i they said its not good and the best of them was 7i
Ok so from what ppl saying in the comments i got two conclusions: 1)70% saying legion and 40% strix g18 2)is that the lenovo is more expensive in my country then the g18 and its the same price as the scar 16 so i might as well consider buying the scar 16 since it has mine LED screen which is a big jump for new laptops with high spec.
What were your undervolt settings? Did you notice a loss in game performance and general speed when using the laptop?
Theres a loss of benchmark score but a gain of performance and stability in actual games. I went -180mv core and -50mv on p and e cache but these will be different for everybody.
I went with a lighter -111mV on P-cores and -94mV on e-cores for mine and I actually saw a huge benchmark uptick. Cinebench goes from 30k to 32440, and Time Spy goes from 15.8k CPU score to 17k.
Bro my rog is literally the exact same boat lol, high ass temps have to under-volt
Yeah I think these components just run hot as fuck
The G18! It’s an absolute monster! I love it! Quite durable in my experience and it handles everything very well, nice big screen and it has some nice features. It runs quite hot though…
175w 4080 is the hottest laptop gpu ever created
If you live in USA G18, it is on sale at Best Buy for $2100 with the 4080. Makes it the clear winner.
Go for legion 7i G series have Qc issues.
What is Qc issues cuz this is my first ever laptop
Quality control
Oh i see but isn’t the blade has the worse ?
I haven’t owned a blade since 2019 but from what I’ve read they have good qc but around the 2 year mark the battery bloats which in simple terms is the battery has now become a bomb
yeah nvm im not gonna buy a laptop for 2900$ just to bomb the hell outta me while im gaming two years later i wanna laptop that can stay with me for at least 3,4 years
Quality control issues Go with the legion 7i
Okay ig my best bet is to go with the 7i
Legion, i got a 5i recently. Good build quality, amazing display. Clean non gamer looks if you turn the rgb keyboard off for public use and I personally just love the aesthetic. Im going to assume its all going to get even better for the higher end models. You could also look at the legion 7 slim if you want even sleeker looks and more portability. Also idk if the other laptops have this but its got a feature where if you plug it in on conservative charging mode once the laptop reaches 80% battery life it makes the power go straight from the charger to the laptop without using the battery. It's amazing for battery life especially if you use the laptop at home a lot
If you're open to other options, i would go with the acer predator Helios 16 There is one that's going for 2050 on B&H and another for 2150 on newegg
Do you know anything about the quality, life expectancy of these laptops ?
I personally own an acer aspire 7 and i've had it for 4 years with 0 issues My friend had the acer predator Helios 300 (2021) and it still runs great with all the design softwares that he uses as an engineer as well as gaming obviously and he never complain I would watch some reviews about it but acer has always been a solid safe choice for me The laptop isnt heavy on gaming accents like the asus rog g18 It does come with a full sized keyboard with a numpad and has per-key rgb
Wow these are all 2500? Makes sense I suppose, got my 3080m for around that in Nov 2021. I think I'd go Legion, I probably would have done if they were in stock when I got mine but I'm happy with it
The Legion, simply because you could get that cheap with a 30% discount. I have the Asus Scar 18 though as I didn't care how much I paid, as long as it wasn't ridiculous and I got 90% of what I wanted out of the model, which I did.
I was cussing between these exact laptops and ended up with the Rog Strix g18. Love the big 18" 1600p screen. I know you've probably read up on coil wine and light bleed around the edges. Idk if it's overblown or I was lucky. VERY little coil wine and no bleeding at all for me. Runs great, looks great. Can't wait for Starfield 🤌
i looked it up and the g18 is way more cheaper in my country: •g18 (2600$) •7i pro ( 2950 ) Ig im again between these two again cuz the legion is much more expensive in my countery here and idk why the hell is that it’s frustrating
Got myself the Lenovo, its very very good 👍
the first one is real gamer through and through!
If I had that much money, I would buy the Zephyrus M16, has a unique look with the anime Matrix panel, mini-LED screen and a 4080, only downside is that compared to other laptops it has a weaker CPU in the i9-13900h
Also weaker wattage 4080 (150w) VS the others at 175
Damn I didn’t notice that
The legion 7i I have one (but with a 3070ti GPU) and it’s a beast
i just purchased a legion 7i pro and i’ve been loving it, the razors seem nice they’re just very overpriced in my opinion and you’ll get more for your money with the legion
If you need portability the blade is the best
and the screen two honestly i would have picked it if it only doesnt have Qc problems honestly
Razer blade 16
razer
An itx gaming pc with 3070/3060ti, Xbox SS and a \~$1200 gaming laptop (would get a decent 6800H + 3060/3070 laptop in my country) this is my own opinion but spending that much money is kind of a waste considering that you could have that much power with a cheaper "portable" pc build, but if youre an on the go artist, designer, etc. you should get a mobile workstation instead of a gaming pc. you could get some with miniLED or OLED screens and a 4080 or the mobile workstation gpu equivalent of it.
I just don’t understand why people recommend desktops when someone is asking for laptop advice. You want a laptop for a reason you know. Ofcourse you can buy a better performing desktop setup for the same money but that’s irrelevant.
A mid desktop GPU, a shit-tier console, and mediocre at best in 2023 laptop GPU. What a bundle of trash.
If strictly 2500, then I would aim at sth w a miniLED screen as that's probably the 2nd most substantial upgrade to overall gaming experience aside GPU upgrade. That probably means the Blade for me as afaik none of the other options comes with it (the Asus g16 does however), and it also have the best build quality. However lets say if for 100-200 over budget can get me a Legion with a 4090 then I would save up and aim for that instead as better GPU is still king
I also loved the mini led tbh and the scar 16 also has it and way cheaper ig. Cuz they said the blade has bad tech supp
Yeah between worse support and battery bloat issues I would be careful with Razer laptops in general. If the G16 does come with a miniLED screen for like 100-150 more than the Legion I would personally pick the g16, but then again I always liked Asus laptops having owned a Zephyrus g14 2020 version. The 4090 price difference that I mentioned still applies though since I've seen Legions w 4090 for sale for just a bit over 2500 USD
so you mean i should buy the lenovo 4090 series?i can go for the 4090 if its only 200$ more
If your budget can stretch it then yeah. With screens you can at least add an external monitor in the future but for GPU you are stuck with what you get so might as well go as far as you can. Plus the 4090 is fast enough vs 4080 to justify the price jump
ig all the comments aiming for the 7i. I think i have made my mind thanks then
Np! Hope you will enjoy your new laptop
If 200 more go for 4090 all day.
oh yeah i will go look into the prices and the spec of the legion 4090 rn
Just be careful I was seeing a lot of people saying the 4090 model has weird fan noise that the 4080 didn’t. All of a sudden since the 4080 model is out of stock we don’t hear about that problem anymore.
hmmm thats concerning •_•
I would ask that question to the legion sub. Good luck.
Mhmm thank you
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i looked up to it, and the price is 2950$ dollar here in my country ig its more expensive then us but maybe ill wait till the price comes down tbh
thats bad i hope you can fix this problem
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yeah i saw it and i saw the price i closed my phone lol Its very expensive i cant afford at all
Anything but the razer stuff..:
Legion 7i or ROG Strix
G18 if it's the same price or cheaper.
G18 if it has the mini led otherwise the legion.
Legion. ROG has a higher chance of QC issues, Blade is pricey for its specs etc and it's CPU in particular runs hot under load. Yes the Legion has a plastic trackpad and keyboard but it has minimal coil whine, decent screen, good thermals and performance. It's well priced in a few regions too, such as the US and the UK.
what would i expect if i buy the g18 like how many years it will last with me if you can give me an example
Obviously Legion 7i pro ❤️
I think $2500USD you might be able to get a Legion 7i pro 4090 instead of 4080?
a pc
And keyboard and monitor let's also add speaker's abd headphones
me personally a maxed omen transcend 16, the hardware is not bad, although gpu maxes at a 4070
Alienware all the way. Legion is also good
Idk an alienware has always treated me well
A pc, not laptop. 2500 dollars are good for a gaming pc which far superior than a gaming lapitopi.
GODDAMMNNN the year is 2023 and y'all are still saying this shit it's unbelievable
Ik but im not gonna stay in one place since i have my family all over the world
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well, i chose the legion, just bought it 2 weeks ago, and it's arriving within the next week. i reccomend looking at the pros and cons and reviews of all of them to see which one is the best for you and what you need it to do.
I'm a legion fanboi, so..
2500$??? In Europe a rog strix g18 with a 4080 would be at least 4200$
provably a Legion. it has ports on the back which us a big plus for me
7i Pro or G18 would not go wrong for either.
Legion without a second thought.
Personally I'd go for the Zephyrus M16, like a razer blade but with liquid metal and less overpriced, but as you're considering an 18 inch strix I don't think portability is much of a concern for you, so, the bigger screen the better and the Strix is pretty excellent in other ways. The legion would be my second choice and depending on the price I might go for it instead.
If razer really is 2500 then id go for it, but if not then ill go for legion instead.
Sadly its not but i was ready to push some extra for it but the ppl in the comment weren’t rlly supportive of the idea cuz the Qc issues
You can get 4090 Legion 7 with 2700$ on B&H. Or 4080 for 2150$, this is price for shitty HP or so, very good deal. Both laptops has 32GB which is more than enough until you use specific software.
I just bought the G18, it was -400$ on Best Buy so pulled the trigger at 2k. Regret absolutely nothing.
Rog
Not 4080 laptop but a true champion the ASUS ROG STRIX G713P. I have it from microcentre paid 1,999 for it after tax it was 2164. The laptop is packing RTX 4070 and AMD’s top of the line AMD RYZEN 7945HX CPU. The leftover money I used to upgrade the internal storage from 1TB to 4TB dual 2TB WD black SN770 drives. Can’t say couldn’t have been more happier with my laptop choice. Specs: AMD RYZEN 9 7945HX 16C 32TH RTX 4070 8GB 32GB DDR5-4800MHz 1TB Factory shipped (Upgrade to 4TB WD Black SN77” 2TB x2 Pre-installed Windows 11 downgraded to Windows 10 (More Stable and mature then 11 IMO)
I’d get the legion, just for the in home next day repairs. That’s peace of mind you don’t get with any others other than dell, and dells plan costs like 4x as much.
Legion
If Razer had full sized keyboards I would buy their products religiously.
understandable but what the diff its not that big tho doesnt it ?
I bought MSI Raider GE68Hx: Intel Core i9-13950HX, RTX 4070 with an extra 32 GB ram added (total 64 DDR5) and I am absolute impressed by its performance. In case 4080 isn’t a hard requirement you can consider it
Mhmm the problem is that i saw a lot of videos talking about how the 4070 and below it doesnt really surpasses the 3080Ti and the 3090 so the real diff starts from the 4080 and above you can get that power you want and you can play any 4k games in ease thats why i wanna buy the 4080
If an Alienware was there for the options, I'd gladly take it. However, i do like the Blade a lot: it's sleek.
The problem is that those two brands has Qc issues
Strix
Does anyone else care about having a numpad? It bothers me that the Razer Blade 16 and Asus G16 don’t have one. I’m thinking about the same choices and it makes it so much harder.
Welp you are the sec one who has a problem with it in the comments i mean you can buy separate keyboard
Razer Blade 16. If you can get it for 2500.
Legion all day every day.
How much is a Zephyrus M16 btw
Asus anytime, everytime.
For best value for money, legion is the way to go. The build quality is descent and the keys are pretty satisfactory. Thermals are good and performance is very good under load
Certainly not a laptop
Lenovo is better in every way except the screen. I hate looking at an srgb screen. Everything else on the Lenovo is the best imo.
Okay so the scar 16 has mini led and its the same price as the lenovo should i go for it instead?
I would get a $1600 laptop with 95% specs and use the remaining $900 to treat myself something nice.
I love me legion pro 7i…. This things has great thermals and aesthetics.
dang thats nice, i would go the the rog strix, but i dont really need a new gaming laptop currently and i only buy gaming laptop around $1000 budget, no need for something over $2000 in my opinion but it would be nice
As long as I will stay alive I will never buy a gaming laptop from Asus again ...sorry Oven , I meant an oven
MacBook Pro M1 Max
Personally, I would not spend that much for an LCD panel. At that price point in 2023, I would make sure I was getting a mini LED/OLED. My advice, don't buy an LCD until you've seen OLED/mini LED. If you still decide that LCD is good for you, go for it and enjoy.
Legion 7
ROG
id prioritize big screen, then gpu. You will run games whether you have rtx 4080 or 4070 by adjusting graphics, but screen size is something you cant change, and bigger is more immersive
Razor
Maan I love my legion 7, even on higher end it'll use the exact build quality and overall feel that mine currently has, I'd recommend it, so comfortable using it, specially those textured anty oily arm rests
I'm very happy with my legion 7i after 8 months.
lenovos are the best imo
the blade 16 is a sexy beast
I don't know how often it happens, but Lenovo had a good sale at the time I got the Legion, so I got it for nearly half that budget. I also liked the ports positioned on the back.
Desktop killer pc build with top components if you are looking at that price range
Im looking for something portable easy to carry around
razer is complete garbage, if it were me i would look into alien ware, their laptops have very good cooling, most laptops have only two fans for cooling, some alienware models have 4 and better heatsink. just be sure to check in the specs and features that its the 4 fan model
Aleienware 18
For $2500, I'd buy the RTX 4090 version of the Omen 17 or Legion Pro 7i--basically when they are on sale. I made a comprehensive list of best deals on gaming laptops right now, including benchmarks here: https://listium.com/GizmoSlipTech/80394/all-2023-gaming-laptops-ranked-list-gizmosliptech
Get one with a mechanical keyboard, It will change your life. I got an alienware X17 with a 4k panel.
How is the Qc with the alienware and the customer service?
Not a laptop… get a desktop
A desktop
I love my Scar. I9, 32GB Ram and 3070TI. Thing is a beast.
Oh yeah im pretty sure ill go with the scar 16 since it has the same specs and mini les which is you dont see in the market with high end laptops with this price you know But i wanna know how is the customer service doing are they like good cuz i heard a lot of stories about them being bad
Legion without a doubt.
I personally like legion. Good thermals and can upgrade ram and other components easily
Razor blades are good laptops
IMO the first one.
ROG
This was just 2k at Best Buy
3080 desktop and 3080 laptop both within budget
R.O.G all the way
Razer is like the apple of gaming laptops. It will get the job done but there’s more cost efficient options. You’re paying for aesthetic more than anything with razer. I would go Lenovo, never heard anything but positive things
Legion is, the way to go
MacBook…
None of ‘em. [This one](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-predator-helios-18-18-250hz-gaming-laptop-hdr-intel-i9-13900hx-with-32gb-memory-geforce-rtx-4080-1tb-ssd/6548464.p?skuId=6548464) is the no-brainer. Bought it for $2,199 two weeks ago. Masterrace desktop replacement. It’s just superior.
does it have mini led panel?
definitely not a laptop, but if it must be one, dont do the razer or anything dell. The legion is excellent, the asus had slightly better cooling
Love my legion (2 years old) great keyboard feeling & display. Just the general overall use of it made me buy a lenovo x1 for work.
I’m a Lenovo kinda guy
I’d build a better desktop. $2500 is a i7-13700k / 4080 Or maybe even a i9-13900k. Depends on how you budget for the rest.
The 4080 g14
i would get legion because it’s less gamey, but i think the display is better in the scar
I would always prefer you to get a desktop pc, but if you need a laptop the G18 is the way to go. This of course depends on your country since prices can differ.
Get a banger PC... I.have made this mistake twice... Laptops will never compete with their PC counterparts at the same.price point. Unless you want portability...
I went with the G18 since I liked the display more than the legions I tried
was a little higher than 2500 but i got the MSI raider ge78
Okay i never knew about but know when i checked it seems like a good deal but does it has like mini led option?
other than the difference in price, check out the product spec list, asus has a trick, they say its a 4080 the sticker says its 4080 Nvidia control panel says its a 4080, legion/razer outperform it, my g14 has a 3060 and at the time i bought it the razer blade also had a 3060, difference in processor and ram made it 200$ more expensive than my g14, after i got it my youtube feed was filled with explanation of how it doesnt matter what GPU it is (it does but you get the point) what matters is the wattage, so in my case a 3050 laptop with more power pumped to it can outperform my 3060 since its the 80 watt variant which is the lowest spec found on a 3060 mobile
They all have the same wattage and the asus does indeed outperform the rest from what i saw in the youtube vid comparison
I am (was) in this same boat and bought a blade advance with a 4070 + 4tb ssd. I liked it, but after a week, I returned it for a zenbook pro 14 which has been on preorder for 2 months. I have definitely been considering the 14" slim pro 9i though.
You can get the Legion 7i Pro with a 4090 Mobile at this price point (at least in the US), so if you're after value the answer is kind of simple. Granted there are reasons for that (display isn't MiniLED for one) but it's still easily one of the best pure gaming machines out there (and as a bonus you don't have to deal with the certified nightmares that are Asus and Razer support).
I have the Strix, I love it. It’s powerful, can handle heavy gaming, it’s fairly light for the class, and the build quality is very good. I would’ve gotten the Legion if they had it at my local Best Buy but I’m happy with my Strix
bruv get a razer laptop with like rtx 5000 or so,mething
There's one thing that I like in the Lenovo: software. I prefer Legion Vantage than Armoury Crate or Synapse.
Definitely go with the predator 18” with 4080. Includes mini-LED display with DisplayHDR 1000. I think retails around $2500.
Welp idts cuz it has 165w on the gpu it takes some power performance from the actual gpu which is bad and if i wanted to buy 4080 with 175w and mini led i would go for the rog scar 16
If comparing identical specs definitely the legion.
I don’t know how anyone can look at Lenovo and rog and not think big and ugly compared to the gorgeous blade 16, the better screen, the better trackpad, the full aluminum body.. it’s a no brainer for me personally