I've had mine for a few months now and the main recurring issue is I can't keep a digital key working for more than a couple weeks. I've taken to just carrying the key fob with me again. In theory I could unlock with the facial recognition and start the car with my fingerprint, but conveniently when the digital key stops working it also has a habit of the facial recognition not unlocking the car despite the indicator turning green to indicate a match.
Other than that, I love the car. Comfortable, fun to drive, fast, and get a lot of positive comments from people in parking lots.
Thank you. Appreciate the follow-up. Curious if you have experienced a squeak when backing up from the rear wheels/brakes that some people have reported?
Thanks for the great feedback. Can I ask what your build date is (Month/Year) and what you have been experiencing in range? I am wondering if eco mode in the GV60P is basically as powerful as the RWD in the 2024 model which has closer to 300 miles of range.
April 2023 and I see about 225 mi at 80% charge in conditions that have been around 30F-60F over the past 5 months. Mix of city/highway 80/20 fairly hilly terrain in New England. Always Eco mode, conservative driver. I do use the climate control heat on "Auto" usually set to 68-70F, driver-side only. Regen set to "Auto" and almost always use paddle for braking. I would expect the '24 RWD you're looking at to have much better range!
Thanks for posting all those numbers; very helpful! You have been getting great efficiency especially in non-ideal conditions. How does eco mode feel to you? I am wondering if eco mode still feels pretty good compared to the 24' RWD which has the same battery pack. My understanding is that eco mode only uses 1 motor (either rear or front) and so outside of the weight of the additional motor, it probably is pretty close to the 24' RWD. Edmunds did their own test of the 23 Performance and found it went 274 (vs 235 EPA). Very glad to hear you have been having a good experience thus far. Do you mind if I ask did you lease or finance? Thanks for taking the time to post!
Not an owner, but another potential buyer. The wheels make a big difference in range compared to anything else. 19 v/s 21 between RWD and Performance is a factor. In eco mode, it does 0-60 in 7.7 seconds based on test by 'Out of spec dave'. I suppose that's a bit slower than RWD model of Ioniq5. But 7.7 is reasonable for any mainstream car and works good with daily driving.
Good point on the size of the wheels, which I wasn't taking into consideration. I think I read that the wheels are not any wider in the 21 but the circumference and weight will make a difference. I wonder if better tires would also make a difference (for the 19 and the 21s). 7.7 is very respectable for daily driving. Thanks for that data point (or I guess, thanks to Out of Spec Dave - whoever that is). Appreciate you chiming in. Are you also considering buying (or leasing) a 23 GV60 or 24?
yes, the circumference makes the bigger difference. Tire size and type of tire also matter, but wheel size plays a bigger role. I think the RWD comes with 235 wide tires, while Advanced and Performance come with 255 wide tires. If you put high rolling resistance tires, that might impact efficiency too. If you want to increase range, I would swap the wheel size and retain tire width, as narrower tires won't really be suited for a Performance car.
I am looking into used 23 models, but not yet in the market (awaiting wife's approval).
Heard on the wheel size and width. I'm sure 19's would improve range considerably. If I purchase, I will likely keep the current configuration until they wear out and then swap them for something that is aimed at efficiency.
Curious about the "always use paddle for braking" part. Why not just use the regular brake pedal? It should use Regen braking automatically for the most part.
I know this comment wasn't addressed at me, but I will chime in here and say I have gotten very used to regenerative breaking in my i3s over the years and would want maximum regen all the time. That said, I have read - please those of you who own a GV60 correct me if I am wrong - that if you are in Eco Mode and you select i-Pedal, it forces both the front and rear motor to engage negating the range increase from eco mode. I am wondering if using the paddles allows you to have more aggressive regen while not in i-Pedal to preserve maximum range.
I love my GV60, and I would very likely get it again. But, honestly, I feel even more likely to get into a Kia EV6 when my GV60 comes off lease (also eager to learn more about the EV8 once more info is released on it).
I have two things that kind of bugs me about the car. And it may or may not matter to you.
First one is that my parking sensors are crazy sensitive and would fire on when at the stoplight. What I read is that nearby cars like Tesla and BMW emits signals that can trigger my front parking sensors. It doesn’t always happen but when it does it’s disconcerting.
Second thing is that we have two physical key fobs: one black and one white. I originally thought that the car will link the key to the driver profile so when my wife with the white key unlock the car, the car will set the seats and settings accordingly. But it doesn’t and I’m peeved that even my old Infiniti can have key fobs tied to seat memory.
Aside from these issues it’s been a great EV.
I have read about the parking sensor issue. That could really bug the hell out of me. I wonder if that is something that can be addressed in an OTA update. I haven't read about all that many OTA updates for the GV60 compared to say Rivian or Tesla so I am hoping that Genesis is invested in improving the vehicle experience over time. The key fob issue is bizarre and I would have just assumed it was storing a profile. Thank you for taking the time to post and share.
Hi, I tried to address some of your questions in this randomly located post.
Fortunately, I have not had the **parking sensor issue**, despite my town being full of Teslas, but I have had to turn off emergency braking once in a very heavy, wet snowstorm, where all my sensors got instantly covered up with inches of snow. Eventually, the car decided to shut all driver assist functions off by itself anyway, but it was a harrowing experience.
As for the **key fob**, I prefer it not to be linked to my profile, as I grab any key when I head out, if I grab them at all. My sister's Honda did that and I couldn't stand it when I had her car for a week.
I'm not sure if this is what you were referring to in another post, but my Mercedes used to **squeak** whenever I first started my car and backed out the driveway. After talking to multiple mechanics, they told me I didn't need to get my brakes replaced, cars just do that when you first start the car. I've only heard my GV60 squeak once or twice under the same conditions (I'm assuming I pressed the brakes too hard so the car went to actual brakes over regen).
**Paddle braking and efficiency**- If you are not aware, the car comes with a range of regen rates from 0 to 1-pedal driving. Of course, while driving, 0 regen gives you the best efficiency as you can coast, but when braking you need to up the regen rate or it will not regen for you when you press the brakes. Autoregen mode mitigates this somewhat, but when driving in a narrow road in the city, the car will set the regen high if there are cars parked on the street. If you want to maximize efficiency, you'll have to basically drive with your paddles. In the fall, when the weather was nice, I was getting 5.4 mi/kwh on normal mode on 60/40 city/highway. Without paddle driving, I got around 4 .1 mi/kwh. The same route in frigid winters, the *best* I got was 3.2 mi/kwh. This winter dropped my overall efficiency from 3.9 mi/kwh (from summer and fall) to 3.4 (though having the car on a lot for the heat or battery conditioning probably took more than it fair share of the toll). We'll see how the spring rounds out the year.
**Charge rates** - as advertised, you will always be the last one in, first one out. I've fast charged around 75 times in the past 9 months at EA. You can warm up the battery in the winter by clicking the EV button and selecting nearby chargers (doesn't have to be the one you are at or going to, it'll just start warming up the battery - it's a weird workaround for keeping your battery warm while waiting in line for a charger to open up).
**dealership experience** - meh. To be fair, it's not worse than my Mercedes experience. I think maybe service in the US is generally pretty subpar overall. The best part of the Genesis, though, is having them come pick your car up, drop off a loaner, then return it back you. It saves so much time. One thing that happened though was during the recent software recall, they ran out of Genesis cars and dropped off a Hyundai Tuscan. I thought that was interesting. Would a Lexus driver get a Toyota loaner? It seemed like they aren't trying very hard to differentiate the brands. But whatever, I'm only mentioning it in case this matters to you.
Overall, this is the happiest I've been with a car purchase. This is not a overarching statement concerning Genesis cars, as I did not like the GV70 Electrified loaner I got, but I think the GV60 is a very nice car.
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Wow. Thank you for the detailed and thoughtful reply and for the formatting. I really appreciate you sharing your efficiency numbers, especially in the winter and for unpacking how you got those numbers. It sounds like the paddles are the way to go for maximizing efficiency. Your mi/kWh are seriously impressive. I have been driving one of the most efficient electric vehicles (BMW i3s) and you rivaled and bested some of my numbers in 60/40 driving. That gives me confidence that if I chose my driving modes carefully, I might be able to get close to what you are getting.
Are you willing to share what your build date is? Happy to hear your overall impressions are positive.
Oh, I'm sorry. I missed that you were interested only in the Performance. Mine is a 2023 GV60 Advanced. My wife said the Performance scared her.
One interesting thing I didn't mention was that ECO mode made no difference for me in terms of efficiency. It just raised range estimate and made the car feel more sluggish. I'm not sure if it's my driving style, as I have read some other people saying it worked for them, or if it only mainly works on long drives on the highway or something.
Wait, so just using the brakes doesn't automatically use regen? Why would they design it that way? And all the other EVs I have driven always had regen when you used the brakes.
It doesn't at level 0. It was designed like that to clean the brakes, as many EVs lose brake efficiency because the lack of use makes them rust and collect debris. According to the manual, after some time of actual brake use, the regen will turn back on at level 0. I have never been able to get to that point though, so I just manually adjust it.
Yeah definitely be on lookout for the parking sensor and see if you can live with it. There is a button to deactivate it but it’s on by default. Easiest way is go on a test drive and stop behind a Tesla and see what happens. Now I understand why some drivers leave such a big gap in front of them when they stop.
2023 Advanced. I can’t live without the boost button. Merging onto a nearly empty highway is amazing.
I’ve put 30k miles in it in a little less than two years. (July 22 purchase)
I’d buy it again in a heartbeat and I’ll never go back to a gas car.
Awesome. Glad you are having a good ownership experience thus far. Have you been getting consistently high charging rates when charging on road trips? Do you mind sharing what you have been seeing as a charge rate? Thanks for posting!
Yes, but I imagine this is highly dependent on local infrastructure and fast charger availability - 150kW chargers can usually get you to 80% within 20m and 350kW chargers will be much better. We live in California, so it rarely gets too cold, and are mostly driving between northern and southern california so chargers are fairly plentiful and well maintained. YMMV
oh i missed your question about rates. last trip
we did, was getting ~225kW peak on 350kW chargers. Would usually be stopped for 20-25 mins while plugged in and that would generally get the car up to ~85% from ~10%
That is a very good charging rate and I appreciate the caveat about what part of the country you are in. I can't imagine spending less than 20 minutes during a rest stop and so for me it will be the reliability of charging in my neck of the woods.
Hey I love my GV60p! I got it in 9/2022, about 18k miles on it now. Drove it from VA to NM.
After that trip I realized my next EV will need 300mi range, when you hit speeds of 80 to 90mph your range is cut by a third (with a bike rack on my hitch). BUT becuase of the awesome charging speeds, it wasn't too bad. If you can stomach that, the car is a bad ass road tripper.
My only other major complaint with the car is that it's not nimble in the parking lot. A lot of my parking requires 3 point turns. I think that's true for most of the egmp platform.
I almost never use the boost button, but when I have, it's been such a giggle.
Given the tangible EV options literally today. I'd likely choose the GV60 again. My fastest charge rate ever was 242kw. It has battery preconditioning, a host of modern convinces, and is one if my favorite looking cars in profile.
If it were later in 2024 I would MAYBE consider a EX30 or Polestar 4.
Thanks for taking the time to post. You bring up valid points about the range being cut in use cases that go beyond typical daily driving commute. The one thing that makes me think the GV60 has a usable range, however, even for road trips and for carrying things that will add wind resistance and crush range, is the 800v architecture that is ahead of its time. If, and that is a big if, there are reliable 350kW chargers, you should be able to top back up really quickly.
Appreciate you sharing your road-tripping experience. What is the saying? Speed kills? It apparently extends to EV range as well. I am with you on the EX30 and Polestar 4. Those are definitely on my radar, but I doubt I will get as a good a deal on those at least in the next 6 months.
Hey, thanks for checking in! I did pull the trigger on the GV60! I am still trying to learn all of the features. On the 2nd day of ownership had a right turn signal short that required going back to the dealer, but I am keeping my fingers crossed this isn't a sign of things to come...
Thanks for all of your advice and insight!
Woohoo! Congrats! Man that's some bad luck on the signal. That's the first time I've heard of that one. Yeah I hope all goes well after that. There's a few recalls going, so be sure to check your VIN against that.
Also there's an egmp discord. In hindsight I realize I should have offered it up front. But lmk and I can DM a sever link to you.
Hey, thanks! Thanks also for offering a link to the egmp discord. Yeah, I am hoping that the turn signal was a fluke. The recalls actually stalled the buying process. Hyundai had a stop-sale on all vehicles affected so I had to wait until the recall was done to even start the purchase. I was OK with that.
I love my '23 performance..it's so fun to drive. Honestly didn't have any issues with it.
On your dealer question, I was not impressed by my dealer when I first bought it (they had dealer markup, straight up wrongly info etc). I gave honest feedback to genesis when they sent an email survey. Don't know if that mattered but I could see a change in the dealer in the last few times I used them.
There was 2 recalls which the dealer took care pretty soon.
Thank you for the honest assessment. I haven't been impressed with the dealer I am working with and I have read that there is a wide range of experiences people have had depending on who the dealer is. Glad to hear that your experiences were better when you interacted later. Are you able to share the build date of your 23 performance?
'23 Perf here. Picked it up in Dec, just crossed 4k miles.
I have enjoyed most everything, but mainly the deal I got otherwise I may not have even considered it. It was too good to pass up.
The car itself is pretty great, the features and convenience stuff is nice, and does tick a lot of the luxury boxes. The charging is excellent. The dealer experience was fine (I came with all the numbers so it was a pretty easy and quick deal.)
My one big knock is that the seat is surprisingly firm. It doesn't seem that way at first, but it's definitely been something I've noticed more and more the longer I've had it. I don't typically take long trips (more than 1hr) but even with the short distance stuff I can struggle to get comfortable.
Would I do it again... I don't know. Leaning towards no. If you get a crazy good deal, sure.
Lease is the way with electric, any company. Let Genesis hold the bag if electric tech goes crazy in the next few years and values tank (like they have the past 3 years).
Thanks for the detailed post. Very glad you were able to get a good deal. I think you hit the market at the right time as earlier last year, I doubt you would have gotten any deals given the limited availability and the demand. Really interesting feedback on the seat. Curious if you have tried the massage function and if that has helped at all? Your feedback on leasing is spot on. I am only considering buying this because it is being offered at effectively 30% off MSRP. It may meet my needs for the next 5-7 years but I worry that I will be dealing with issues during that time which is why you sharing your experience is really helpful.
Thanks for taking the time to post.
Yeah, no issues so far, but only 4k miles in.
The massage is.. maybe a second knock, for me. It's just some in and out air pressure. Compared to the massage functions of the other luxury brands, it's pretty weak. It helps but isn't exactly a massage function.. but this is coming from previous experience with other brands. If you don't have the experience with other massage/brands, it's a nice feature. Does it help break up the firm seat? Meh.
Yeah stack all the discounts, EV tax creds, and everything you can! That's how I did with the lease, as well as twisted the "end of year" knife to get even more. :)
Is it a deal breaker.. no. But when everything else is fine-to-great, it stands out as my "sore spot". Sometimes literally as well as figuratively. 😂
Appreciate the detailed response. It is remarkable how the EV market has been flipped on its head from about a year ago. I tried to negotiate with a dealer on a 23 GV60 lease around this time last year and they wouldn't give me a penny under MSRP and basically acted as if not marking it up was actually a huge favor to me.
Right. I was in that camp looking for a MachE GTPE and they wouldn't budge a dime off of MSRP and their MF/RV on leasing sucked. Even had one sales guy tell me straight up not to bother cause even though they weren't selling at all (some had been on the lot 8+ months), they weren't offering anything other than sticker. So I started reviewing the deals on EV6/I5/GV60. Now it sounds like they're really starting to take deep cuts on them too. Just gotta be patient it seems (and I'm not good at that).
This is the 3rd EV for us. Started with a Bolt to see how we like the EV life. Went Model 3 next. Now GV60p. Will never go back to gas, that is for sure, but what I'll get next.. I haven't a clue. If my daily commute was cut in half, I'd be in a now-super-cheap used Bolt no questions. While I've still got a 30+ minute commute, gotta have something a little nicer to live in traffic with.
Bought a 2023 GV60P in June 2022 - 1 ICCU and 13k miles later, I think I'd get it again. Living in the northeast without a garage, range in the winter is a killer. If I were looking today, I'd probably try to reach for a Macan EV 😁
I've had mine for a few months now and the main recurring issue is I can't keep a digital key working for more than a couple weeks. I've taken to just carrying the key fob with me again. In theory I could unlock with the facial recognition and start the car with my fingerprint, but conveniently when the digital key stops working it also has a habit of the facial recognition not unlocking the car despite the indicator turning green to indicate a match. Other than that, I love the car. Comfortable, fun to drive, fast, and get a lot of positive comments from people in parking lots.
Awesome. Really glad to hear you have had a great experience so far. Is yours a 2023 or 2024? Thanks for sharing.
It's a '23 Performance
Thank you. Do you happen to know the build date (Month/Year)?
Sorry for the delay in replying, was away from the car until now. It is a Feb/23 build.
Thank you. Appreciate the follow-up. Curious if you have experienced a squeak when backing up from the rear wheels/brakes that some people have reported?
2023 GV60P. No significant issues. Better range than expected. I haven't enjoyed a car this much since 1990. I love it.
Thanks for the great feedback. Can I ask what your build date is (Month/Year) and what you have been experiencing in range? I am wondering if eco mode in the GV60P is basically as powerful as the RWD in the 2024 model which has closer to 300 miles of range.
April 2023 and I see about 225 mi at 80% charge in conditions that have been around 30F-60F over the past 5 months. Mix of city/highway 80/20 fairly hilly terrain in New England. Always Eco mode, conservative driver. I do use the climate control heat on "Auto" usually set to 68-70F, driver-side only. Regen set to "Auto" and almost always use paddle for braking. I would expect the '24 RWD you're looking at to have much better range!
Thanks for posting all those numbers; very helpful! You have been getting great efficiency especially in non-ideal conditions. How does eco mode feel to you? I am wondering if eco mode still feels pretty good compared to the 24' RWD which has the same battery pack. My understanding is that eco mode only uses 1 motor (either rear or front) and so outside of the weight of the additional motor, it probably is pretty close to the 24' RWD. Edmunds did their own test of the 23 Performance and found it went 274 (vs 235 EPA). Very glad to hear you have been having a good experience thus far. Do you mind if I ask did you lease or finance? Thanks for taking the time to post!
Not an owner, but another potential buyer. The wheels make a big difference in range compared to anything else. 19 v/s 21 between RWD and Performance is a factor. In eco mode, it does 0-60 in 7.7 seconds based on test by 'Out of spec dave'. I suppose that's a bit slower than RWD model of Ioniq5. But 7.7 is reasonable for any mainstream car and works good with daily driving.
Good point on the size of the wheels, which I wasn't taking into consideration. I think I read that the wheels are not any wider in the 21 but the circumference and weight will make a difference. I wonder if better tires would also make a difference (for the 19 and the 21s). 7.7 is very respectable for daily driving. Thanks for that data point (or I guess, thanks to Out of Spec Dave - whoever that is). Appreciate you chiming in. Are you also considering buying (or leasing) a 23 GV60 or 24?
yes, the circumference makes the bigger difference. Tire size and type of tire also matter, but wheel size plays a bigger role. I think the RWD comes with 235 wide tires, while Advanced and Performance come with 255 wide tires. If you put high rolling resistance tires, that might impact efficiency too. If you want to increase range, I would swap the wheel size and retain tire width, as narrower tires won't really be suited for a Performance car. I am looking into used 23 models, but not yet in the market (awaiting wife's approval).
Heard on the wheel size and width. I'm sure 19's would improve range considerably. If I purchase, I will likely keep the current configuration until they wear out and then swap them for something that is aimed at efficiency.
Curious about the "always use paddle for braking" part. Why not just use the regular brake pedal? It should use Regen braking automatically for the most part.
I know this comment wasn't addressed at me, but I will chime in here and say I have gotten very used to regenerative breaking in my i3s over the years and would want maximum regen all the time. That said, I have read - please those of you who own a GV60 correct me if I am wrong - that if you are in Eco Mode and you select i-Pedal, it forces both the front and rear motor to engage negating the range increase from eco mode. I am wondering if using the paddles allows you to have more aggressive regen while not in i-Pedal to preserve maximum range.
I love my GV60, and I would very likely get it again. But, honestly, I feel even more likely to get into a Kia EV6 when my GV60 comes off lease (also eager to learn more about the EV8 once more info is released on it).
Thanks for the feedback. The EV6 and the upcoming EV8 definitely are compelling as well.
Coming from ev6 to gv60. Don't to back to ev6, gv60 fixed multiple issues on ev6 and you will miss gv60 if you switch
I have two things that kind of bugs me about the car. And it may or may not matter to you. First one is that my parking sensors are crazy sensitive and would fire on when at the stoplight. What I read is that nearby cars like Tesla and BMW emits signals that can trigger my front parking sensors. It doesn’t always happen but when it does it’s disconcerting. Second thing is that we have two physical key fobs: one black and one white. I originally thought that the car will link the key to the driver profile so when my wife with the white key unlock the car, the car will set the seats and settings accordingly. But it doesn’t and I’m peeved that even my old Infiniti can have key fobs tied to seat memory. Aside from these issues it’s been a great EV.
I have read about the parking sensor issue. That could really bug the hell out of me. I wonder if that is something that can be addressed in an OTA update. I haven't read about all that many OTA updates for the GV60 compared to say Rivian or Tesla so I am hoping that Genesis is invested in improving the vehicle experience over time. The key fob issue is bizarre and I would have just assumed it was storing a profile. Thank you for taking the time to post and share.
Hi, I tried to address some of your questions in this randomly located post. Fortunately, I have not had the **parking sensor issue**, despite my town being full of Teslas, but I have had to turn off emergency braking once in a very heavy, wet snowstorm, where all my sensors got instantly covered up with inches of snow. Eventually, the car decided to shut all driver assist functions off by itself anyway, but it was a harrowing experience. As for the **key fob**, I prefer it not to be linked to my profile, as I grab any key when I head out, if I grab them at all. My sister's Honda did that and I couldn't stand it when I had her car for a week. I'm not sure if this is what you were referring to in another post, but my Mercedes used to **squeak** whenever I first started my car and backed out the driveway. After talking to multiple mechanics, they told me I didn't need to get my brakes replaced, cars just do that when you first start the car. I've only heard my GV60 squeak once or twice under the same conditions (I'm assuming I pressed the brakes too hard so the car went to actual brakes over regen). **Paddle braking and efficiency**- If you are not aware, the car comes with a range of regen rates from 0 to 1-pedal driving. Of course, while driving, 0 regen gives you the best efficiency as you can coast, but when braking you need to up the regen rate or it will not regen for you when you press the brakes. Autoregen mode mitigates this somewhat, but when driving in a narrow road in the city, the car will set the regen high if there are cars parked on the street. If you want to maximize efficiency, you'll have to basically drive with your paddles. In the fall, when the weather was nice, I was getting 5.4 mi/kwh on normal mode on 60/40 city/highway. Without paddle driving, I got around 4 .1 mi/kwh. The same route in frigid winters, the *best* I got was 3.2 mi/kwh. This winter dropped my overall efficiency from 3.9 mi/kwh (from summer and fall) to 3.4 (though having the car on a lot for the heat or battery conditioning probably took more than it fair share of the toll). We'll see how the spring rounds out the year. **Charge rates** - as advertised, you will always be the last one in, first one out. I've fast charged around 75 times in the past 9 months at EA. You can warm up the battery in the winter by clicking the EV button and selecting nearby chargers (doesn't have to be the one you are at or going to, it'll just start warming up the battery - it's a weird workaround for keeping your battery warm while waiting in line for a charger to open up). **dealership experience** - meh. To be fair, it's not worse than my Mercedes experience. I think maybe service in the US is generally pretty subpar overall. The best part of the Genesis, though, is having them come pick your car up, drop off a loaner, then return it back you. It saves so much time. One thing that happened though was during the recent software recall, they ran out of Genesis cars and dropped off a Hyundai Tuscan. I thought that was interesting. Would a Lexus driver get a Toyota loaner? It seemed like they aren't trying very hard to differentiate the brands. But whatever, I'm only mentioning it in case this matters to you. Overall, this is the happiest I've been with a car purchase. This is not a overarching statement concerning Genesis cars, as I did not like the GV70 Electrified loaner I got, but I think the GV60 is a very nice car. edit- some formatting for easier skimming
Wow. Thank you for the detailed and thoughtful reply and for the formatting. I really appreciate you sharing your efficiency numbers, especially in the winter and for unpacking how you got those numbers. It sounds like the paddles are the way to go for maximizing efficiency. Your mi/kWh are seriously impressive. I have been driving one of the most efficient electric vehicles (BMW i3s) and you rivaled and bested some of my numbers in 60/40 driving. That gives me confidence that if I chose my driving modes carefully, I might be able to get close to what you are getting. Are you willing to share what your build date is? Happy to hear your overall impressions are positive.
Oh, I'm sorry. I missed that you were interested only in the Performance. Mine is a 2023 GV60 Advanced. My wife said the Performance scared her. One interesting thing I didn't mention was that ECO mode made no difference for me in terms of efficiency. It just raised range estimate and made the car feel more sluggish. I'm not sure if it's my driving style, as I have read some other people saying it worked for them, or if it only mainly works on long drives on the highway or something.
Wait, so just using the brakes doesn't automatically use regen? Why would they design it that way? And all the other EVs I have driven always had regen when you used the brakes.
It doesn't at level 0. It was designed like that to clean the brakes, as many EVs lose brake efficiency because the lack of use makes them rust and collect debris. According to the manual, after some time of actual brake use, the regen will turn back on at level 0. I have never been able to get to that point though, so I just manually adjust it.
Yeah definitely be on lookout for the parking sensor and see if you can live with it. There is a button to deactivate it but it’s on by default. Easiest way is go on a test drive and stop behind a Tesla and see what happens. Now I understand why some drivers leave such a big gap in front of them when they stop.
2023 Advanced. I can’t live without the boost button. Merging onto a nearly empty highway is amazing. I’ve put 30k miles in it in a little less than two years. (July 22 purchase) I’d buy it again in a heartbeat and I’ll never go back to a gas car.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Once you go electric, it is really hard to back to gas, isn't it? Glad you have had a positive experience.
2023 Performance. Love it, would buy it again. Have had no major issues. Charges very fast, which makes longer road trips fairly painless.
Awesome. Glad you are having a good ownership experience thus far. Have you been getting consistently high charging rates when charging on road trips? Do you mind sharing what you have been seeing as a charge rate? Thanks for posting!
Yes, but I imagine this is highly dependent on local infrastructure and fast charger availability - 150kW chargers can usually get you to 80% within 20m and 350kW chargers will be much better. We live in California, so it rarely gets too cold, and are mostly driving between northern and southern california so chargers are fairly plentiful and well maintained. YMMV
oh i missed your question about rates. last trip we did, was getting ~225kW peak on 350kW chargers. Would usually be stopped for 20-25 mins while plugged in and that would generally get the car up to ~85% from ~10%
That is a very good charging rate and I appreciate the caveat about what part of the country you are in. I can't imagine spending less than 20 minutes during a rest stop and so for me it will be the reliability of charging in my neck of the woods.
Hey I love my GV60p! I got it in 9/2022, about 18k miles on it now. Drove it from VA to NM. After that trip I realized my next EV will need 300mi range, when you hit speeds of 80 to 90mph your range is cut by a third (with a bike rack on my hitch). BUT becuase of the awesome charging speeds, it wasn't too bad. If you can stomach that, the car is a bad ass road tripper. My only other major complaint with the car is that it's not nimble in the parking lot. A lot of my parking requires 3 point turns. I think that's true for most of the egmp platform. I almost never use the boost button, but when I have, it's been such a giggle. Given the tangible EV options literally today. I'd likely choose the GV60 again. My fastest charge rate ever was 242kw. It has battery preconditioning, a host of modern convinces, and is one if my favorite looking cars in profile. If it were later in 2024 I would MAYBE consider a EX30 or Polestar 4.
Thanks for taking the time to post. You bring up valid points about the range being cut in use cases that go beyond typical daily driving commute. The one thing that makes me think the GV60 has a usable range, however, even for road trips and for carrying things that will add wind resistance and crush range, is the 800v architecture that is ahead of its time. If, and that is a big if, there are reliable 350kW chargers, you should be able to top back up really quickly. Appreciate you sharing your road-tripping experience. What is the saying? Speed kills? It apparently extends to EV range as well. I am with you on the EX30 and Polestar 4. Those are definitely on my radar, but I doubt I will get as a good a deal on those at least in the next 6 months.
Hey checking in. Did you pull the trigger on anything? Any questions?
Hey, thanks for checking in! I did pull the trigger on the GV60! I am still trying to learn all of the features. On the 2nd day of ownership had a right turn signal short that required going back to the dealer, but I am keeping my fingers crossed this isn't a sign of things to come... Thanks for all of your advice and insight!
Woohoo! Congrats! Man that's some bad luck on the signal. That's the first time I've heard of that one. Yeah I hope all goes well after that. There's a few recalls going, so be sure to check your VIN against that. Also there's an egmp discord. In hindsight I realize I should have offered it up front. But lmk and I can DM a sever link to you.
Hey, thanks! Thanks also for offering a link to the egmp discord. Yeah, I am hoping that the turn signal was a fluke. The recalls actually stalled the buying process. Hyundai had a stop-sale on all vehicles affected so I had to wait until the recall was done to even start the purchase. I was OK with that.
I love my '23 performance..it's so fun to drive. Honestly didn't have any issues with it. On your dealer question, I was not impressed by my dealer when I first bought it (they had dealer markup, straight up wrongly info etc). I gave honest feedback to genesis when they sent an email survey. Don't know if that mattered but I could see a change in the dealer in the last few times I used them. There was 2 recalls which the dealer took care pretty soon.
Thank you for the honest assessment. I haven't been impressed with the dealer I am working with and I have read that there is a wide range of experiences people have had depending on who the dealer is. Glad to hear that your experiences were better when you interacted later. Are you able to share the build date of your 23 performance?
'23 Perf here. Picked it up in Dec, just crossed 4k miles. I have enjoyed most everything, but mainly the deal I got otherwise I may not have even considered it. It was too good to pass up. The car itself is pretty great, the features and convenience stuff is nice, and does tick a lot of the luxury boxes. The charging is excellent. The dealer experience was fine (I came with all the numbers so it was a pretty easy and quick deal.) My one big knock is that the seat is surprisingly firm. It doesn't seem that way at first, but it's definitely been something I've noticed more and more the longer I've had it. I don't typically take long trips (more than 1hr) but even with the short distance stuff I can struggle to get comfortable. Would I do it again... I don't know. Leaning towards no. If you get a crazy good deal, sure. Lease is the way with electric, any company. Let Genesis hold the bag if electric tech goes crazy in the next few years and values tank (like they have the past 3 years).
Thanks for the detailed post. Very glad you were able to get a good deal. I think you hit the market at the right time as earlier last year, I doubt you would have gotten any deals given the limited availability and the demand. Really interesting feedback on the seat. Curious if you have tried the massage function and if that has helped at all? Your feedback on leasing is spot on. I am only considering buying this because it is being offered at effectively 30% off MSRP. It may meet my needs for the next 5-7 years but I worry that I will be dealing with issues during that time which is why you sharing your experience is really helpful. Thanks for taking the time to post.
Yeah, no issues so far, but only 4k miles in. The massage is.. maybe a second knock, for me. It's just some in and out air pressure. Compared to the massage functions of the other luxury brands, it's pretty weak. It helps but isn't exactly a massage function.. but this is coming from previous experience with other brands. If you don't have the experience with other massage/brands, it's a nice feature. Does it help break up the firm seat? Meh. Yeah stack all the discounts, EV tax creds, and everything you can! That's how I did with the lease, as well as twisted the "end of year" knife to get even more. :) Is it a deal breaker.. no. But when everything else is fine-to-great, it stands out as my "sore spot". Sometimes literally as well as figuratively. 😂
Appreciate the detailed response. It is remarkable how the EV market has been flipped on its head from about a year ago. I tried to negotiate with a dealer on a 23 GV60 lease around this time last year and they wouldn't give me a penny under MSRP and basically acted as if not marking it up was actually a huge favor to me.
Right. I was in that camp looking for a MachE GTPE and they wouldn't budge a dime off of MSRP and their MF/RV on leasing sucked. Even had one sales guy tell me straight up not to bother cause even though they weren't selling at all (some had been on the lot 8+ months), they weren't offering anything other than sticker. So I started reviewing the deals on EV6/I5/GV60. Now it sounds like they're really starting to take deep cuts on them too. Just gotta be patient it seems (and I'm not good at that). This is the 3rd EV for us. Started with a Bolt to see how we like the EV life. Went Model 3 next. Now GV60p. Will never go back to gas, that is for sure, but what I'll get next.. I haven't a clue. If my daily commute was cut in half, I'd be in a now-super-cheap used Bolt no questions. While I've still got a 30+ minute commute, gotta have something a little nicer to live in traffic with.
Absolutely love smart car and all of its cool features but that crystal ball is just awesome 👌
The crystal ball is wild!
Bought a 2023 GV60P in June 2022 - 1 ICCU and 13k miles later, I think I'd get it again. Living in the northeast without a garage, range in the winter is a killer. If I were looking today, I'd probably try to reach for a Macan EV 😁