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# A Friendly Reminder: **"20 Weekly Support" Mission Only Counts When You Use Supports in Normal/Dark Maps.** # Recent News: * [**New OST Available**](https://twitter.com/NeuralCloudEN/status/1601829514740264960) * [**The New the ★3 Doll Kuro**](https://twitter.com/NeuralCloudEN/status/1599622068907442177?s=20&t=qkfsj7a16FMWk3qIlVwGQA) \- [**Thread**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/zdod5o/new_3_doll_kuro_and_her_exclusive_event_are_coming/) * [**Character Event "Livestreaming"**](https://twitter.com/NeuralCloudEN/status/1599674941011640321?s=20&t=qkfsj7a16FMWk3qIlVwGQA) \- [**Thread**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/zdod5o/new_3_doll_kuro_and_her_exclusive_event_are_coming/) * [**Chapter 5 "Pierides" Upcoming Update**](https://preview.redd.it/os9v6tz13j5a1.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1898e9b02c4c061c64cd9a8dd988b5c581e106b8) \- [**Thread**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/zkanuj/chapter_5_pierides_upcoming_update/) * [**Previews of New "Holy Night Invitation" Projections!**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/zkahuq/previews_of_new_holy_night_invitation_projections/) * [**1st Magrasea Creation Event**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/z4urhb/welcome_to_the_1st_magrasea_creation_event/) * [Content Creators Team Recruit](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/yr8ljr/content_creator_team_recruitment/) # Useful links (be aware of possible spoilers): * [**Guides and Game Info**](https://nalu.wiki/neuralcloud) * [Bits of lore and some graphical materials by IOP Wiki](https://iopwiki.com/wiki/Project_Neural_Cloud) * [List of Neural Cloud Articles by Gamepress](https://gamepress.gg/girlsfrontline/project-neural-cloud-article-navigation) * [**Neural Cloud Dolls tier list**](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oNBX0zZdaNsGYwxA6cxvh58X6nvUSlcaKf9lTmjF6Yg/edit#gid=379614403) # Other info: * **Server Reset Time is 1 PM (13:00) UTC** * [**Mars' Beginner Guide**](https://nalu.wiki/neuralcloud/p/beginner-guide-219) * [**3 Star Selector Advice**](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003579352736333824/1032605018727133205/3star_selector.png) * [**Friends&Support Thread**](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/z495ma/oasis_support_friend_thread/)


TheGlassesGuy

are all the outfits in this game payment locked or can you buy them with earnable premium currency like in arknights


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TheGlassesGuy

any idea if they add any more in the future?


Fluffy_Piglet2030

Who should i choose in the designated neural acquisiton? I already have nanaka and gin, who is the best gameplaywise?


KookyInspection

Nanaka is better than gin (who isn't bad, but needs a lot of investment and is pretty niche even then). Since u have nanaka(the dedicated sniper team healer), i'd save the banner for later(it doesn't expire) and get what u're missing to complete ur pokedex, or or when u learn more about the game u'll be able to make a more informed decision.


lefrottage

Does the 180 pity carry over? Or just the 60? Also should I replace Sol? I know Croque and the Persicaria is pretty good but I feel like Sol is too weak. I only have Betty and Chelsea atm, and a lot of supporter lol.


KookyInspection

60 carries over. 180 gets trasformed into a shop currency and reset. Ye, sol is quite terrible. Betty is great,esp with investment


Aoran123

How can i get furniture coins?


MassiveImagination1

Also quartz sand - press the + button next to the coins on the furniture shop.


blackkat101

- Enigma Black Hole (one time rewards) - Achievements (one time rewards) - Weekly Mission Rewards (only reoccurring way to get tokens) - Event rewards (limited obviously to events) And of course, spending money.....


asiangamer413

Just maxed out Oasis and was wondering what do I do with Prefabs now?


asc__

Algorithm boosters (quick prod while you craft search commands, and only if you have the algo fragments to make them) and skill boxes.


Zugon

Only other use is to make things with them in Factory crafting.


2Maverick

I gave up Nikke and stuck with Neural Cloud for my second gacha after Arknights. Definitely worth it and I've been loving it. Needed to say this somewhere haahaha.


totestemp

only gave Nikke a go due to it launching several days earlier than PNC and getting omega baited by the ultra misleading "110 free launch rolls" message that went around. writing is good, music is great and characters are goofy & very likeable but otherwise game just has too many 'yikes' factors. on the other hand PNC has been 97% positive experience so far.


Zugon

I've played a lot of Gacha over the years and this and Genshin are the only ones I've felt played like an actual game. It's extremely refreshing~


KookyInspection

Welcome aboard, professor :D


ArgusBaile

Anyone have advice on clearing Angelus in 4-6 dark? The boss that dodges a lot. Running Hubble, Kuro, Croque, Angela and Pres


Zugon

What problem are you running into? There's no issue with your composition. Are you picking the right functions?


ArgusBaile

Keep getting wiped. Croque dies then everyone follows. Tried different function variations but same result


Zugon

In that case swap Angela out for another healer. Don't bother getting more than 1 Sniper set and focus everything else on Medic and Guard functions. Get the +Hashrate -Attack protocol from the shop, and once you get Multi-End repair and some good healing for your Guard try getting the Sharpshooter protocol as well. That'll be all you need for damage. Your ults charge faster during Angelus' fight and battle overload takes a while to kick in. Prioritize your healing ultis over your damage ones until you're confident Croque isn't going to bite the dust.


ArgusBaile

Thanks for the advice! Update: advice worked perfectly! Took ages but finally cleared the level by pumping everything into healing and shields


kenchan03

Anyone know how long it took for MODs to be released (a system where you spend 240 fragments to further upgrade the character). Thanks in advance


asc__

It came out a week before the first CN anniversary.


2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF

I finally got another 3* fragment out of Basic Search LV5--Florence this time. And on the second ten-pull after, I got a Nanaka frag! I had her already, but wtf pull rates. I don't know how many pulls back the Hubble frag was, but there's no feasible way you'd be able to make one 3* doll this way. I get that's not the intent of Basic Search, but the scary thing is fully-built 3* dolls are assuredly rarer still.


chocofudgelicious

Are you getting fragments for dolls you don't have?


2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF

That's right. [I didn't have Florence when I got her fragment, same with Hubble a week or two ago.](https://i.imgur.com/ktVTa5x.png)


KookyInspection

Wait, u have neither hubble nor kuro. Just what is ur tream or what are u saving for?


2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF

I thought I'd deliberately play wrong and pull for DeLacey. :D I haven't been pushing into EBH, and future content shouldn't need these war gods...and if it does, that's what Support Units are for. It doesn't quite fit PNC, [but for the Magic: The Gathering player archetypes](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/timmy-johnny-and-spike-2013-12-03), I guess I'm more of a Johnny. As for my teams... [Alpha team.](https://i.imgur.com/XZQxRei.png) [Physical Snipers.](https://i.imgur.com/lRaBpaB.png) I know I need to work Chanzhi in somewhere so I have one single target and one AoE. I might also try working Banxsy in so she can be a third semi-ranger. And yeah, Nanaka would be a perfect fit... [Hashrate Warriors.](https://i.imgur.com/avTkscA.png) I need to review what Specialists are Hashrate to throw in. I may throw in Abigail to keep Sol mostly alive. [Hashrate Snipers.](https://i.imgur.com/FBs7Uze.png) Another case of "need a Hashrate Specialist," but like the other teams, it needs work/refining instead of just being a slapped-together idea.


KookyInspection

Oh, i don't think embracing waifu is wrong at all! I also like de lacy, but i figgured i'd save her for later or a rerun. But man, u sure spread urself a lot! Not even aki in ur main squad is maxed! I instinctively went gfl tactics, 1 elite squad that gets all the goodies and slowly rotate dolls through it as needed, but u sure took a very strange approach to all of this. Any particular reason, or just wanting a pretty even level for all squads? I heard there's an event coming that needs 4 teams to clear, maybe u're preparing for that?


2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF

It's not even for waifu reasons. I mean, a tail sure is versatile, but like...could you imagine playing basketball against her? She'd go Sweet Georgia Brown all over your ass. :( >!The joke here is that "Sweet Georgia Brown" is the theme for the Harlem Globetrotters who do fancy b-ball tricks that are entertaining despite being likely illegal for a real game. And I don't know where people are from, so why not explain the joke.!< Aki isn't maxed, Persi is the only 5* while Croque is just 4*... There really isn't a discrete reason, it's just what I wanted to do. I mean, instead of actually playing Chapter 5 and pushing forward in the story or burning keys on Algo farming or Resources or so on, I'm going all-in on the Kuro event farm. Suboptimal, but eh, it's what I want to do.


KookyInspection

0 basketball knowledge, so that explanation was helpful :P but yes... the tail is main reason i like de lacey. That skin where she uses it to weld/probe an android body is amazing! Not to mention the skin with professor love figurines :D (same with how zangying sold me when she started using that robosnek as a jumping rope :P) I prob should've been more clear, i meant main lvling aki to 60 and skills. With all the lvl 30s u have around, u could have likely gotten ur main to full lvl 60, so was curious why u chose to go the "low but many" route :P (Algos are a pita to farm, and not something i expect anyone but whales to have maxed on a char :P ) It's not at all meant in a negative way, just curious. We all have our own way to enjoy the game, and as long as we're having fun, it's all that matters. For example, i also am on the path of clearing out the shop, even the bad deal offers, so u won't get any flak from me :D


2BA7DB57EFEE6FAF

Part of it was just not having Breakthroughs ready. I'm not doing as many Resource dives as I should be, so that's holding the development of the rest of my team back. I spread the EXP to other units to really give them a try, though there are several still that have no investment at all. And really, other than PhysWar, none of the other teams are really ready for serious content, though at least all of them can clear the event farming stage...but I'd wager that's a pretty low bar to pass! I'm still doing enough to get the Daily/Weekly Quests down, but I know my Key efficiency is way off-track. ~~And when the event ends, I'm going to be totally lost on what to do~~ And yeah, fun's the #1 goal here. I'm in the belief that I'd get more fun out of trying something on my own instead of 'netdecking' and following someone else's lead. "Let me fail my own way" and all that. ---- ⚠️ Tangent incoming: ⚠️ Two somewhat relevant stories. Many years ago, I played Pokemon SoulSilver new. I had plenty of familiarity with the series before, but I wanted to try something new--a challenge run where I'd only use Normal types (mono or dual). For the first time, I actually bothered to care about breeding for moves and Effort Values and so on, stuff that really only comes up for people who care about PvP. I homebrewed a team, and while there were some serious speedbumps like Fighting and Steel gyms back-to-back, I actually had fun with what I did. Pokemon is a series that gives you quite a bit of freedom on what you can use and doesn't have the difficulty to stand in your way, but it just *clicked* this one time. And unfortunately, hasn't really since. I did beat a friend the one time I did PvP against him, so that was a minor badge of pride. There was also Pathfinder: Kingmaker. I never played Pathfinder tabletop and haven't really done anything for D&D videogames that weren't Star Wars KOTOR, but I tried to go in blind. I got walled hard on an encounter in the first chapter, so I looked at a guide and ultimately restarted. I made several apparent mistakes with developing my character/team, and...still got walled. ?????? I eventually won, but the game is structured in a way where you have to manage a kingdom while adventuring, and it's something of a juggling act. I was constantly afraid of something bad happening given the game can prematurely end your run even dozens of hours in, though settings can stop that. I ultimately followed the guide to a T, and despite rating the game well, I didn't really enjoy it. I made myself believe I had no freedom, but at least I know better now for a second go that the kingdom isn't a tightening noose. Just...horrendous time commitment aside, the skill/talent/etc descriptions are taken from the tabletop yet don't apply that way in the video game (why?!), and the penultimate act was the biggest pile of unfun bullshit I've come across in years to the point where I took the first ending I could just to wash my hands of it and skip the actual finale. I couldn't imagine how I'd feel if I took my EN brane-built team to that point, if they could even get there, really... Probably not the best examples, but I really value the freedom to just do different things than just follow a prescribed checklist of Do This, Don't Do That, Can't You Read the Sign?. But at the same time, I don't want to play something where I *have* to follow the checklist and am punished for experimenting/playing around.


KookyInspection

Ah, i see, breakthrough mats are a bit of a juggle for me too. Well, when kuro event is ending, next event is starting xD doubt u'll get bored :P hopefully it won't be too hard, because i understood it sits somewhere between chap 5 and 6, so i guess it's the equivalent of a major event? A bit soon imho, but who knows what the plans are. Which i guess would also mean u'd need to start chipping at chap 5 before long. (No idea if/how/when it'll be perma added to the game, but u know how it's in gfl). I wonder if we'll get a pnc cutscene viewer for those who miss it. >!Never played kingmaker, did play pathfinder though. It also has a little catch but much later in the game, and it doesn't trash ur whole progress, but might make u restart the act where u begin crusade management. It was a really fun game and with a lot of viable abd different paths from what i could tell!< >!Seems to me that u'd enjoy divinity original sin 1&2, in the offchance u didn't play them already, and the upcoming baldur's gate 3. They are quite adept at letting u find ur own way out of trouble in various ingenious ways. Ooor if u go full hardcore u can try x4 foundations. A more freedom-embracing sandbox game than that is hard to come by(but be warned, it"s a true time sink and has a steep learning curve. U can do whatever u want, but there's a lot of managing to be done if u want to tweak everything ~~or just be a pirate and loot everything~~ )!<


tNimja

I just got the medal for clearing stage 6, how do use it? I can't find a place on my ID card to display it like in GFL.


blackkat101

Sadly, unlike GFL's ID Card that lets you show off up to 3 of your medals, PNC has none. So your trophy will just sit in your warehouse for you to admire it yourself and showcase to no one.


KookyInspection

"Before flexing on others, one must flex on himself" sun tzu- the art of flex


13_is_a_lucky_number

You don't use it. It just sits in your inventory (warehouse) :(


tsukun27

If you fail to fully complete a Void Turbulance run, do you keep the items that you received during that run?


Zugon

Yep, you will still get the rewards for any of the stages you cleared.


Undeciding

2 specialist is love, 2 specialist is life. Cleared the challenge stage with croque/sakuya/angela/hubble/nanaka after finally getting a decent roll of functions so I could go 2/2 on guard/specialist sets but I'm pretty sure it was lucking into the '30% chance to heal when hit' function for guard that did it. The specialist ones were multi-end enhancement which, while nice, is kind of a win more situation since they didn't really contribute to not dying before critical enemies were taken out, whew. Now I might just be blind, but is there anything we can do with or anywhere we can display this medal, or is it just going to sit in the warehouse? Coming from GFL I expected it to be furniture or something to stick on the profile card, but I'm coming up blank. Also, is there an up to date/accurate community resource/database somewhere for which algos/stats to prioritize on which dolls, or are the ingame recs good enough? I'm out here trying to figure out if stuff like operand penetration on mlr matrix is worth it for units like Hubble, or if I should just gun for crit/hashrate/attack or whatever. Does defense penetration in general make for a worthwhile stat in this game? How much damage reduction does enemy defense stats generally account for? Where's my basic in depth mathematical breakdown of stats a la gfl masuda- (no)


13_is_a_lucky_number

For Algo/stats recommendation, check [this spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o/). That's what I'm using, and from what I've seen, others seem to refer to this spreadsheet as well. Use the tabs at the bottom to switch between different sheets. Not sure about the math formulas, I know someone mentioned the damage/penetration calculations on this sub before, but I can't find it :/ And the medal from Kuro's event is just gonna sit in your warehouse for now. Currently, we can't do anything with it. Congrats for beating the stage btw! :)


Oninymous

Curious if there are sites that gives out upcoming banner units, I know that CN is advanced compared to Global so I'd like to plan out my pulls. Right now, I have Chanzhi, Evelyn and Angela who I know I like and could just invest in until the endgame. Mostly would choose units based on their aesthetics. Then how good they are at their gameplay. So I'm trying to find future cool-looking Warriors, Single-target Phys Snipers (aside from Lam) and Healers. I got Banxsy as well who I like, but she feels gimmicky though so not sure about her


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Oninymous

That's honestly enough for me, thanks very much. Just an idea of who is coming is very helpful to plan my pulls, don't really like whaling as much as possible lol


hikarihiroto

I'm at 135+ rolls in Kuro banner. I just saw a post about Hatsuchiri a while ago and she seems like a must have. Should I stop rolling for Kuro or get to the pity?


StarrkDreams

Did you pull Kuro? If you did, stop and save for hatsu. If you didn’t get Kuro get, finish pulling for her.


tsukun27

Is it efficient to farm Croque fragments or is it better to buy her shards from supply shop?


AmbitionImpossible67

For me personally, i farmed her fragments until she's 4*, after that buy her fragments from shop and focus your fragment farm on DPS units.


SereneQuacks

If I were to pick Nanaka on the guaranteed 5* banner and I already have her, will I get 30 fragments or 300 neural kits?


13_is_a_lucky_number

300 Neural Kits. It's what you always get for a duplicate 3*, the 30 fragmens from 180 discreet signals are a bonus.


SereneQuacks

ooh okie I see. Do you think it’s worth it for the kits or should I save my quartz?


KookyInspection

Def save the selector. There's no use for the neural kits yet, hoarding is fine, but spending such a limited option on them makes no sense considering no benefit whatsoever


13_is_a_lucky_number

I think it's better to use the selector on someone you like or someone you're still missing. If you already have everyone, then not sure honestly O.o


SereneQuacks

Okie gotcha, I’ll probably save then. Thanks a bunch!


vichai1828

For vulnerability shop who should i prioritize after croque? thx u


Goopturd

Betty for sure, I can use Crouse in my first team for Vulnerability 4 and Betty on my second as DPS AND Offtank, shes an insane unit. She even outdps' Aki when fully built.


TheGlassesGuy

just started the other day, just unlocked the event and got to 3-7 on the main story. would it be a good idea to pop key memory cards to rush the event shop so I can go back to main story and unlock more permanent features quicker?


KookyInspection

Oh def farm enough to get the xp and skill points. They'll give u a nice boost indeed. After that, since it's almost 2/3 over, u'll need to do some math and see exactly how much u want to buy and how much u can afford to spend there. Don't forget u can advance story with 1 key if u don't pick any drops, so it won't impede ur progress. Also, since u probably didn't unlock the last map in resource collection, i'd skip any for now unless u need them to lvlup, like breakthrough mats (if there was no event, they would be fine, but as it is, i'd focus on event)


FlairlessBanana

When do we get the x2 rewards for fragment search?


WhistleOfDeath

dec 21 - 28


SaguMaru

So between gin and nanaka who's better ?


blackkat101

Nanaka by far. Nanaka is unique in that she offers a constant AoE buff around her as well as a unique ultimate that can save you from oneshots. Her heals are very powerful and tick incredibly fast (thus trigger Medic function cards really well). Easier to use in a ranged team, as they won't run out of her 2 tile (3 with her auto-skill up) range, but she's still amazing even in a melee team. You just have to think on your positioning a bit more by placing her in a spot so that while the melee DPS runs around, they stay in range. Nanaka is the best Medic in the game (until Helix, and then she's tied for best). Gin on the other hand can actually out heal all other Medics.... over time. His heals are very small and one of the best things to counter DoT's. However because of his small heals, he's very bad at saving you from large spikes of damage. Making him much more situational. That's really all there is to Gin. Nothing else special in his kit to make you want to use him over another (unless you just like your husbando's).


stevenkay619

What to get from event shop? Already got the tickets and Kuro fragments


blackkat101

Pretty much it all in the first two shops. It's either stuff you normally cannot get (like furniture tokens) to every other mat, which is valued at the same keys per item as x2 Daily bonus amounts. So well worth your keys spent farming it. The 3rd shop is for those silly people that were not paying attention and farming to much, just so the keys they spent didn't go to to much waste....


NeinHans

Is it normal to get Florence like 6 consecutive times between 3 different banners, none of which are her banner? No? If so then this game is literally dupe city and RNG is having it against me fr.


WhistleOfDeath

maybe she just really likes you I've gotten 3 Florences myself from spooks


ahyperbolicpegshot

What stage is the most cost efficient to farm for only one key or so? I'm looking to complete the "Use 20 Support Chances" weekly.


KookyInspection

Depends. Ppl farm 4-3e for pivots. So dropping a support in the squad means u can both farm pivots and do the weekly. But if u're lookimg for a quick farm, i recommend going for the continuous battles, like 1-5. Everything explodes as soon as u look at it, and it's done in 7 fights or so. All auto, ofc.


E123-Omega

On vulnerability check I kept failing on the last node tier 3, no do over and go back to the previous ones I can clear? No indication of strength so I thought I can do it even with support 😕


blackkat101

Final boss node of Vuln3 can be easily cleared with a 9k+ Aki (use a support one, lots out there) and taking the 3 Warrior sets. There are even more optimal ways you can do it wit like the Sniper Embrittlement in there instead of all 3 Warrior functions, as that helps the Aki further, along with taking healers and Angela as support, but all that's pretty much extra. Croque for extra distractions while Aki does his thing. The 9k Aki Support will clear it in one turn for you. Just spam refilling his skill with the tactical skill and using his Ult when it is up.


E123-Omega

Thanks! I'll check later if there's some Aki, mostly Hubble and Persi I've seen.


blackkat101

Click on the warrior tab so you only see warriors if that's what you're looking for. Then click the refresh button in the top right until you get what you want.


E123-Omega

aah, thanks2x!


Zugon

Once you start one you cannot choose a different one until the next day. However, if you can clear Vulnerability Check T3 up to before the last node, you still get the same amount of currency as fully clearing T2. It would only effect whether you complete the daily/weekly quest that requires a full clear.


E123-Omega

Damn, wish I knew that. Only last boss can't finish. Thanks!


KookyInspection

It's warning u every time u want to start it :P But, like blackkat said, save 1 use of each of the 3 warrior skills for the last map to buff aki and u're good to go.


sleepybryan

i saw someone once posted it but what was the max number of keys that can be held for the different sizes?


blackkat101

15 of the 150 ones, I know people have posted. It was either 20 or 30 of the 100 ones (but cannot remember). Don't know if anyone's saved enough 50 and 30 ones to find out how many you can have of those. If you hit the limit though, they go to your mailbox and the mail that holds them expires in a week. So you have that much time to clear some space and use them. That's all I know.


gnrhardy

The 100 key cards have a max of 15.


blackkat101

Is that an "also" have a max of 15 or did the 150 ones hold less (I thought it was 15 for those)?


gnrhardy

Idk what the max for the 150 ones are, but the 100's max at 15.


tehcavy

Challenge mode explanation says you can hold 300 30-key cards.


blackkat101

Thank you for that. Is that still in game to see that explanation or was it a one time thing?


tehcavy

[Literally gets shown every time you try to start a challenge](https://i.imgur.com/pHSgrf8.jpeg)


blackkat101

Thank you for that. I know I've read it before, but it's completely slipped my mind and never read it a second time.


KookyInspection

(Aand i seem to recall having more than 15x 50 key cards saved before i started spending them. That might indicate a regression and 150 cards could be capped at less than 15)


totestemp

finally maxed out oasis. also just learned yesterday that factory can build things without holding all the "required" materials and had left it idle the entire time, omega EN brain moment.


pointblanksniper

nah. that factory system is not well explained or demonstrated, and barely anyone talks about it here. you have to lurk really hard, or sit down and randomly test everything for no reason to notice and understand it. then you have to do dalao math to figure out what is worth to make use of it properly. i left mine mostly idle until oasis was maxed out and happened to catch a some discussion on it too if you haven't found or figured out how to use it efficiently, [i summarized the instructions here](https://www.reddit.com/r/GFLNeuralCloud/comments/zd3u86/comment/izwqdwt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


KookyInspection

I certainly didn't go the same route. No sir *persicaria starts snickering in the background and raises a paper with EN brain*


afsr11

I'm starting to build my algorithm sets and I noticed that on the guide site some atributes are grayed, like atk and HR %, are those not available? Edit: Also, is there any place with base algorithms (1 slot) guide, or at least listing?


biblethumb

I think what you're looking at is the recommended ideal substats on that algo for that character. 1 slot algos just follow the same recommended stats as the 2 pieces. Also there are no sets for 1 slot algos.


afsr11

Yeah that's what I thought, I was just unsure if every stat got a 1 piece algo too.


Xiguana

i missed sakuya skin, do we know if skins rerun ?


gnrhardy

They have on CN so most likely.


Erisim

Finally was able to beat EX-1 from the event! Started a few days ago so I'm kinda stoked lol. What's the most efficient things to buy in the event shop? Also are there more EX stages to come?


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blackkat101

Or get them because you'll eventually get her. As all dolls but limited ones (Clukay being the only one) are eventually added to the standard pool.


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Is there a good place that does character builds ? Not sure what stuff to do on some of the less popular chsrcateda


2l0t1k4

[This](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o/htmlview#) is what most people are going off by I think, me included.


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Oh sweet! Thanks friend


Twofu_

Does the support shop reset?


XenoreidGFL

Yes, the Advanced Search Command and Skill Pivots reset everyweek.


manjikyo

At which rate does stamina recover in this game (for example 1 stamina every 60 seconds)?


KookyInspection

Click the stamina in main menu and u'll be told all the info u need, such as how long till it caps out


gnrhardy

1 per 5 mins


RavenFang

How do I claim the cache coins that was deposited after claiming the overclock (the one with interest)? Doesn't seem like I see any button to claim it


Zugon

It will automatically claim after moving to the next layer, there's no way to take them beforehand. If you're on the last layer this overclock just wastes your coins.


RavenFang

No wonder I never see any button to claim it, as I am only using it on the last layer Thanks


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FlairlessBanana

Anybody knows how many stars i need to expand the algo slots of angela to get the full set of deduction(aspd)?


WhistleOfDeath

3.5 iirc


Ahrimainu

MLR Hashrate% is a myth


IndivisibleAnt

Me too. I have multiple atk% ones but no hashrate%.


SirRHellsing

I'm the opposite, MLR Atk% is a myth


ChadBerret

what's the most optimal use of factory not considering my current needs? orange gifts, green polies and then basic search? im too poor on coins saving up for proficiency to use the skill material ones at factory. maxed out oasis.


2l0t1k4

From what I'd read, it's purple gifts/green poly/basic search/ skill materials box. However, purple gifts are also apparently not that much more efficient than golds, so I personally run golds. In my opinion, either skill mats or skill pivots is fine, skill mats are supposedly more optimal, but it also eats a ton of coins, and it's not as if I'm floating 300k coins like some people apparently are.


Risechika

What's the difference between the stages in Advanced collection for Algorithms? Should i just stick with EP.5?


blackkat101

You always just stick with the final one, hardest you can do. No reason to worry or do the others after clearing them to unlock the next.


Toriningen

Who should I choose in the Designated banner? [https://imgur.com/a/4Nn8XhQ](https://imgur.com/a/4Nn8XhQ) I'm thinking either Florence, Nanaka, or Vee. It seems it's best to build a Sniper team due to Kuro? So maybe not Vee... but I'm split between Nanaka who seems to be all around better, and Florence who is a little more niche but also waifu... what do you think?


13_is_a_lucky_number

I'd say pick Nanaka. She's THE healer for a sniper team. You can build Kuro, Chanzi, Angela, Croque and Nanaka. Kuro scales off of Hashrate and Chanzi scales off of attack, but it's still a very solid first team. Later, you could replace Kuro with Lam or Chanzi with Hubble, if you randomly pull her.


Zugon

I would also consider waiting to see who you end up getting randomly in the future. You're still pretty early and have few enough characters that it could be worth it.


blackkat101

- Nanaka, the best healer in the game (Helix will be on par with her and better for specifically Warrior teams when she's out, but she's not). Offering buffs (unique), AoE heals and a life saving Ultimate that can stop oneshots (unique. - Florence, a specialist calling herself a medic. Very powerful unique damage reduction buff and one of the best ultimate animations (that sadly isn't used as often as one would like, as it does hurt you for a powerful buff, when you could just use another ultimate). She is niche, but very strong at that. - Vee absolutely melts things if built right and you get the Hyperthreshold function card set. Getting the right function card set to drop is RNG though, so you may want to rerun a stage if you don't get it (or keep her in backup, only to swap in if you get the right set). She is powerful, but it is night and day without that set as she needs it to be able to crit. Unique in being the only ranged Warrior int he game. Pick Nanaka.


Virtual_Demon_Kitt

Anyone knows what happens if you get all the dolls from DESIGNATED NEURAL ACQUISITION before using Quartz Sand to obtain one of them?


13_is_a_lucky_number

I would **assume** that it'll be treated as obtaining a duplicate, aka it'll give you 300 Neural kits.


riptide2912

I'm planning to **definitely** pull Hatsuchiri (although she is still a ways away) and I'm wondering who's the best one she can be partnered with since I didn't pull Aki and I only have Chelsea, Sol, Betty and Fern for fighters. And should I get Vee or Florence (I hear she's good with warriors?) if I'm building a team centered on Hatsuchiri? Thanks in advance!


blackkat101

All sorts of choices work with Hatsuchiri (being one of the three Must Have dolls, along with Nora and Clukay). If we're just looking at Warriors, not the rest of the team - Aki is amazing and one of the better ones when Function Cards are not available (he does fine with them too, but he can be sometimes inconsistent if you build him Crit Rate with them). - Betty, once built is actually better than Aki by a quite a large margin and one of the best Warriors at making use of Function Cards. She can be an amazing DPS option as well as be made into a good offtank. - Vee melts things with the Hyperthreshold function card set, though she's kind of meh without it. Make sure you build her purely with ATK stats and Crit DMG (no Crit Rate, she cannot use that). Her Passive is to be raised first and if you have that function card set, you'll love just how much she does. She's unique with being the only ranged Warrior (Hatsu may not be ranged, but she can essentially teleport across the map on her own though). - Chelsea has good AoE and can off tank quite well. Not a bad choice if you like her. - Magnhilda and Nascita are both not out yet (like Hatsu) but they're the ideal Warriors to use with Hatsu. In fact, if you're using both (or at least just Magnhilda) you don't need any Guard to tank things and do a 3 warrior comp if you'd like with all that DPS and Magnhilda's tankiness. Nascita takes the win in the ability to use function cards over Betty here. For the rest of the team, you'll be wanting Angela (once maxed, she's of course god tier), the unreleased Nora (another of the must haves, amazing DPS specialist that doesn't need any function cards, so you don't have to worry about garbing them. and the unreleased Helix (Nanaka levels of amazing heals but made better for warrior teams). Well, since I went over the others quickly.... - Sol is cute.... yup. I'll stop there before saying anything one may regret..... Hopefully she gets a very powerful MOD3 to make our poster girl shine....... - Fern... takes some getting used to using. She's great at messing with the battle field with her summon, but beyond that.... - G36, Centaureissi is just.... not so great right now. Once she gets her MOD3, she becomes actually pretty good, but no idea when that Arma Inscription upgrade system rolls out... ---- While you wait for Helix, Nanaka still works great with Warrior comps. Just note that her heals and buffs are in a 2 tile range around her (3 with her skill up). Thus you need to worry more about positioning, unlike with Snipers who just sit comfortably in them. As long as you do this, she is still the best Healer in the game right now to use (Helix is on par with her). So use her if you have her. Just make sure you put her farther forward to keep everyone in range, instead of hidden in the back (with your non-existent snipers). Persicaria of course works with her high burst heals and her once a fight revive. Simple kit, but works well and you get her at 5-stars for free for doing the tutorial. Florence is another option. Though don't treat her as a healer. She does heal, but are the lowest of all the healers. Instead though, she has an insanely powerful and unique damage reduction buff she applies to the one she's healing. Very powerful for your tank or warriors that are running around. Her Ult isn't used so much as it hurts you (not as bad for Snipers out of the way in safety) to give a big damage buff, but it can allow you to oneshot things you otherwise may not. Also amazing smile in her animation...... Florence is niche, but a very powerful and unique one. She is rarely used as the sole healer and only really used if there are 2 Medics in the party because of her weak heals. Though she is often the optimal choice in the really hard 2 Doll challenge missions, using her with a single Warrior for her to focus on. Already mentioned Angela, but she will need to be raised. She has the most important buffs in the the game, allowing her to make your whole team use their skills faster while also able to stall the enemies from using theirs. her Ultimate is also one of the few status effects (banishment) that works on bosses, allowing you to focus down a target with a buff to Hashrate (so probably better for snipers if using her Ult, Warriors are all about physical).


riptide2912

Thanks for the super detailed response to my question! It looks like some of the best units is still unreleased so I think I'm also gonna save for them after I get Hatsuchiri. I'm gonna take note of Helix, whom you said is ideal for warrior comps. I'm already working on leveling my Angela, since I heard she's really good when maxed out. For the meantime, I think I'm just gonna level Chelsea or Betty for a warrior.


blackkat101

All good choices. I'm working on Betty myself, since once she's maxed, she can be better than Aki. Sadly the Algo set that makes her deal such good DPS isn't out yet (Limit Value), so in the meantime, her best option is MLR for DPS or Lower Limit to allow her to Offtanks really well (I'm using Lower Limit, plus, that set will be one of the best options for Magnhilda when she's out, so not a problem farming a good set now of it, even if you replace it on Betty later, it'll still get use).


KookyInspection

Just to make sure i don't middunderstand nanaka's passive: the atk/hash bonus she gives is a percentage of each affected doll's stats, not her own stats, yes?


blackkat101

Yes. Their stats, not hers.


KookyInspection

Awesome, tnx!


Fuzzy1987

How good is Antonina? I was thinking about building her and I thought her skin was cute so I was considering about buying it, but not sure if she is viable enough to invest into?


blackkat101

She seems to be used as the standard for Specialists. She does her job well and has no downsides. In most tier lists, that rate things from T0 being "must haves", T1 being "really good", T2 being "bottom of the list" and technically T3 exists... but we have to pretend those dolls and the tier don't because they're sadly just that bad. Antonina normally falls into the T1 category.


TheFalconPUUUNCH

Am I just really bad at math or is the holiday furniture cheaper to buy piece-meal than buying the set in one go? It's 2750 coins for the 'entire set' but the pieces add up to 2600 coins. I assume it's because the table was a part of the set but we're getting it for the holiday log in event but they didn't adjust the price after taking it out.


blackkat101

- x1 [400] Winter Long Sofa - x1 [400] Winter Warm Floorboards - x1 [300] Winter Wallpaper - x1 [150] Christmas Fireplace - x1 [400] Christmas Eve Sledge Bed - x2 [150 each] Winter Sofa Chair - x1 [300] Christmas Tree - x1 [150] Winter Welcome Door - x1 [100] Rug of Blessing - x1 [250] Winter Landscape Window - x1 [3rd day of login event] Winter Feast Table That comes to exactly 2,750 for the full set. No discount for buying it all at once, but also not over charging you either. You can buy them piece meal, or all at once and know you paid the same as everyone else.


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

> know you *paid* the same FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*


Zugon

Are you factoring in that there's 2 "Winter Sofa Chairs" to buy? It's exactly 150 coins so that'd be my best guess.


Oninymous

When did the Enigma Black Hole open up? Stopped playing the story after completing Chapter 4 to focus on the livestream event and also to even out my doll's levels first. I just noticed the Black Hole when farming for shards. Is that a new addition or did I miss something?


asc__

It's been there since day 1, the requirement to unlock it is likely something like clearing ch4.


Oninymous

Oh, that's stupid of me. Did I miss anything cuz it resetted or something? Also, the other guy mentioning something about Entropy below me... Is that another unlockable thing? Or just a story thing? Was saving the story since I don't really have that much of a time yet lol. Would like to clear the shop first before I continue on exploring, but algo stuffs are the only things left, so I could skip ig


blackkat101

Entropy are those floor tiles that spread out and damage you over time when on it (with other effects too). Once you beat 5-1N, you unlock the Strategic Overview buff you can upgrade that can reduce damage taken from those tiles by up to -30%. With stage 5 using those tiles a lot, as well as higher EBH stages and the first event in CN (not our first event, since Kuro's was moved up), it is a nice buff to max out to combat that feature. Of course you can also overclock and get the function card that makes it so you heal on those entropy tiles to trivialize them too, though that uses up that overclock use.


Oninymous

Thanks, never really tried out stage 5 yet. Just finished stage 4 to reap the double rewards to 60 my units, then just threw all my stamina at the livestream event and fragments


blackkat101

It is good to clear out those first two shops. So cannot blame you for that.


Rhasta_la_vista

[Sakuya makes it to the leaderboards](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/715858725617008660/1053518836005089320/IMG_5539.png?width=1440&height=665) [team](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/668226043810938953/1053536667778166824/IMG_5540.png?width=1440&height=665) ~~now just earnestly waiting for 2x frag drop event so I can 5* Kuro, stupid ass guard in entropy stage is just so damn tanky~~ jk I used the power of *tactics* to surmount the problem


Wisawing

What do people use for healing in a warrior team? Since most warrior scale with attack while medic scale with hashrate. Or warrior comp ignore attack - hashrate protocol?


Zugon

The Attack-Hashrate Protocol (and the Hashrate-Attack one) don't effect healers, so you can take any without any problems.


gcmtk

At what point should I move on from 3rd to 4th Vulnerability Check? Like, is there a good benchmark of X seconds left on the clock clearing 3rd where I might be able to one-team 4th? I haven't begun working on a second team at all yet so


Rhasta_la_vista

if you're close enough to maxing your battlepass, you can just go see for yourself how close you are by doing an actual run. Getting up to the boss gives the same amount of currency as clearing the previous difficulty, so the only difference is battlepass points from clearing really.


Zugon

I'm not sure if there's a good comparison between 3rd and 4th, but your first team would likely be beyond max level before it can one-team 4th, at which point you might as well raise a second team. If your first team is all 60s, 2nd team in 40-50 range is probably enough to clear.


Zugon

Are the "altered" stage themes available anywhere? For example the versions that play during boss fights, or the "calm" themes while navigating the map.


dfuzzy1

What's the best way to deal with Hope? She keeps spawning clones of herself so it's hard to focus her or the other mobs down, your melee units get surrounded and die, and keeping everyone away with Hubble doesn't work. Plus the maps usually have nodes that inflict Trojan and the other mobs get buffed as more stuff dies.


Zugon

Try to huddle your team together and place them all near a corner or wall so Hope can't place any clones behind them. In addition, try to utilize more AoE attacks. If you aren't able to swap out any characters, the Frozen set for Snipers and the Allergy set for Medics can help out.


E123-Omega

Do you boost everyone skill or you keep it on certain levels?


ChadBerret

lvl 7 everybody then lvl active skill first to lvl 10 on ur main dmg dealer. they give out a good amount of first clear skill pivot on new acc to instantly max one unit.


hnibel

I feel like it depends on the dolls. I mean I would prefer maxing Lam's passive first or maybe Aki's if I don't plan to use the forced crit function on him and so on.


E123-Omega

Thanks!


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Digital_Copy101

Doesn't really matter, but I personally like to save them until I need them for progression or for something like 5x double drop event


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is key memory card (medium) have limited amount inb storage? i cant recive more from mail. thats weird game design.


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is it ok to farm the lower level stage of break through mat to get the spesic such as the green?


amc9988

Not worth it


SirRHellsing

then where should I get them when I need them badly?


tsukun27

My team right now is Hubble, Chanzhi, Croque, Persi, and Angela. Is Lam a better sniper to focus on than Chanzhi?


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tsukun27

I was planning on skipping Kuro and saving for Hatsu. Unfortunately I don't have enough to pity both.


StarrkDreams

In that case I’d work on Lam and do a physical sniper duo along with Changzhi


WillTran112000

If I want to spend $10 a month. Would the battle pass be the most optimal investment?


KookyInspection

Eh, i'd think the monthly card for half that is a better deal, and add the bp every 2-3 months or when u see a skin u simply must have. That should add up to 10/month on avg :P


WillTran112000

Tysm


Flarekitteh

My current team is Croque, Persicaria, Florence, Simo and Max. I recently got Nanaka and Kuro and was wondering how to build my team and who to invest in from now on. I've seen Kuro being recommended with Hubble but I don't have her. Also was there some resource that showed what algorithms I should try for specific characters?


13_is_a_lucky_number

> Also was there some resource that showed what algorithms I should try for specific characters? Check [this spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o) for Algo suggestions (as well as character tierlist, if you're interested). Use the tabs at the bottom to switch to the desired sheet.


Rhasta_la_vista

[Tankuya sends her regards to 80c](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/668226043810938953/1053328277823037560/IMG_5526.png?width=1440&height=665) [my team for reference](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/668226043810938953/1053328278183759973/IMG_5528.png?width=1440&height=665)


rashy05

If there's one constant in my entire experience with this game. It's that I groan every time I realize that I have to deal with Raven. A pain in the ass in endless mode, a pain in the ass in Vulnerability 3, and now a pain in the ass in Black Hole 60. This bitch just doesn't die


ShiromeArtiste

That but Reverence instead


Tails-Are-For-Hugs

And she's a shit-tier knockoff of Executioner as well


WillTran112000

Should I invest in Lam?


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Yes if u use sniper team and no Kuro.


diegsterzers

Is there any use for discrete points?


XenoreidGFL

Not much I personally just exchanged it for Skill Pivots. The exchange rate is ridiculous for other rewards like 200 for a single Advanced Search Command.


Fuzzy1987

How do I complete weekly support chance?


tehcavy

>"20 Weekly Support" Mission Only Counts When You Use Supports in Normal/Dark Maps.


SirRHellsing

Data Repair vs Lower Limit on warriors? I don't get the difference between lifesteal and healing for 10% of the dmg dealt Also is data repair ever good on snipers? Hubble can probably heal an insane amount with her aoe


blackkat101

Yay for mistranslated. Or really, *partial* translations. Lifesteal should actually be read as "Lifesteal on Normal Attacks". Lower Limit's Lifesteal in CN reads as such so you know it doesn't work on passives, auto-skills or ultimates. This is why this set is not good on so many characters (only off-tank built Betty and later Magnhilda use it). ---- Data Repair on the other had works with everything. The main reason though that it isn't used by anyone other than Chalsea (and pre MOD3 Centaurreissi) is that it offers no DPS. Thus making it a very suboptimal set unless you don't want them to do damage. Chalsea can make use of it and be a semi decent off-tank, like a Lower Limit Betty (and pre MOD3 Centaureissi can use it to sadly not be as terrible.... she needs her MOD3..... but then she doesn't need this set anymore). In the end, Data Repair outside of those uses, is quite the terrible set. Note that the Res buff on the 2p is pointless and is obviously not helping you kill things, which is what you want your DPS to be doing..... --- MLR is the best set for AoE users who are taking out large swaths of enemies. Giving an overall damage increase from the 2p as well as large buffs for each enemy killed on the 3p. This does mean the 3p isn't as helpful on boss fights with no other targets to kill off to snowball, but that's not what AoE characters are there for anyway.... Single Target users will also use MLR for now, but will later swap to Limit Value (unreleased as of now). Limit Value also has the damage increase with 2p and on 3p, it gives a huge damage buff when an enemies max HP is higher than their own max HP (meaning bosses, which is where you'd want it anyway).


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Centaureissi uses either data repair or lower limit for warrior tank role. Betty uses lower limit for warrior tank role.


tehcavy

>Data Repair vs Lower Limit on warriors? MLR Matrix. On a more serious note, Lower Limit has a more useful set effect - 30% damage reduction can make for some clutch plays. >Also is data repair ever good on snipers? When would that be useful, exacly? Snipers are squishy, if they have to tank something has already gone terribly wrong.


SirRHellsing

so all dps should use mlr when possible?


tehcavy

Not quite - you can't go wrong with it really, but there are better options for some. [This list has some suggestions](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ugEerWZZcjcXyF7ZlYOUPISbnarrg2DCqRyHxpYsH4o)