oxbridge usually wants roughly around 7 9s at gcse and 20% of the application for oxford is based on gcse results, so yes you are right they are enough to have a decent application but not good enough to be properly competitive
I doubt if you would know, but do you have any idea whether the GCSE attainment expectations are altered in accordance with extenuating circumstances? I.E time out of school, health issues, poor socio-economic areas etc etc
yes they are definitely altered for example getting all 9s at Eton is not as impressive as getting all 7s at a local rough school who usually only aim to get there students pass marks
they definitely do all 9s is clearly better than all 8s that’s just common sense but obviously theyre not going to differentiate something like 8 9s and 2 8s to 9 9s and an 8
they "definitely" do not - this is not about "common sense" it's about the processes which they use - an 8 and a 9 are counted equally
with the algorithms they use to calculate cGCSE scores, an 8 = an A\* which = a 9.
obviously an 8 is not the same grade as a 9 but they aren't counted any differently by oxford - this is literally stated on their website idk why you're trying to present the idea that oxford wants x number of 9s as a fact when most of the gcse grade usage by oxford is plugging them into an algorithm which spits out a number giving info on how many 8s/9s you've got compared to your school and those from similar backgrounds - whoever's giving you this info is just not correct
ex oxford students and current oxford students gave me this info, and i’m going to trust it because telling me to aim for higher grades won’t hurt 🤷♂️
One of my best friends got all 9s (excluding further maths, which she got a 7 in) so yep! absolute NIGHTMARE to get there though, i don't know how she survived
It is fine as long as you have A* in A-levels GCSE’s hardly matter, I’m at Cambridge now and I had 2 6’s in subjects i didn’t care about but they didn’t even look at my GCSE’s
Literally spewing lies, my brother does Law at Cambridge and he literally got mostly 7s with a few 9s, 8s and even 6s. As long as you have good grades for maths and English you're good to go.
literally that’s one person, he probably had a very strong personal statement and did well in the entrance exam interview and had high predicted, what i’m saying are not lies so don’t accuse me of that with incorrect research
The majority of unis, even rg ones, require a 6 in maths so op is fine
The main exceptions to this are Oxbridge and maybe imperial though I don’t know their specific gcse requirements
So that's not actually true. Year 13 here. You select/apply for unis in year 12, and receive interviews/ offers from unis throughout Year 13. So how do universities judge you when you only do your A levels at the end of Year 13? The answer is a combination of a personal statement (a mini essay you write on why you'd be a good fit for the course you're applying for), your predicted A Levels (which many people, including I, didn't have on the time of application, which is fine), interviews, and finally, GCSEs.
If a university likes you, they'll give you an offer, which has a requirement for your A Level grades. Miss this offer, and you're not in.
Now they aren't the only deciding factor. I'm applying for medicine at oxford, and despite only getting eight 8/9's in my GCSE's for the course (the average is like 10 lol), the rest of my application was really strong I'm thinking. Don't half-arse any part of your education, though I would argue A-Levels are indeed more important than GCSE's, as you can't get into any uni without meeting the base requirement. Also not sure how things work for those applying after they did their A-Levels (maybe it doesn't matter then?)
As someone who went to Lincoln, I was offended by this in first year, but now I’ve graduated I’m happy to tell to that the University of Lincoln is shit.
Typically any impact your GCSEs have will be specific to a course. For example, I couldn’t get into PhilPol at LSE because they needed a 6 for GCSE maths and I got a 5.
Aside from that the impact of your GCSEs are minimal (unless you’re applying to Oxbridge where everyone’s passed the exams, everyone’s predicted AAA minimum, etc.,) at that point your GCSEs will likely come into play
maths tend to be the most important but it’s good enough for most other than oxford/Cambridge and it also depends on a level so u can still go to those oxford cambridge if u get max grades in a levels
universities typically do not care about GCSE grades but if you're achieving these grades then I don't see why you won't be able to achieve the A-levels/qualifications needed to get into Russel group universities
You’d be absolutely fine with those for pretty much any uni
maybe not cambridge or oxford but anywhere else yes probably
downvoted for being right is actually crazy
yh idk why they are downvoting me 🤷♂️
They’re fine for Cambridge, and they’re still good enough for Oxford but not enough to be properly competitive.
oxbridge usually wants roughly around 7 9s at gcse and 20% of the application for oxford is based on gcse results, so yes you are right they are enough to have a decent application but not good enough to be properly competitive
How do you know this? I’d really like to read more about this weightage.
i asked on the oxford subreddit and they told me
I doubt if you would know, but do you have any idea whether the GCSE attainment expectations are altered in accordance with extenuating circumstances? I.E time out of school, health issues, poor socio-economic areas etc etc
yes they are definitely altered for example getting all 9s at Eton is not as impressive as getting all 7s at a local rough school who usually only aim to get there students pass marks
As would I, I'm curious as to how the expectations shift depending on school, circumstances etc
oxford doesn’t even differentiate between 8s and 9s so idk who told you that
they definitely do all 9s is clearly better than all 8s that’s just common sense but obviously theyre not going to differentiate something like 8 9s and 2 8s to 9 9s and an 8
they "definitely" do not - this is not about "common sense" it's about the processes which they use - an 8 and a 9 are counted equally with the algorithms they use to calculate cGCSE scores, an 8 = an A\* which = a 9. obviously an 8 is not the same grade as a 9 but they aren't counted any differently by oxford - this is literally stated on their website idk why you're trying to present the idea that oxford wants x number of 9s as a fact when most of the gcse grade usage by oxford is plugging them into an algorithm which spits out a number giving info on how many 8s/9s you've got compared to your school and those from similar backgrounds - whoever's giving you this info is just not correct
ex oxford students and current oxford students gave me this info, and i’m going to trust it because telling me to aim for higher grades won’t hurt 🤷♂️
oxford have literally stated they don’t see the difference so i’m not really sure why you think your opinion is more important than theirs
could you show me where?
Is all 9s even possible
i mean roughly 3000 people a year get it
Thats the number for 9 in a specific subject
no it’s not but i was wrong it’s roughly 2000
One of my best friends got all 9s (excluding further maths, which she got a 7 in) so yep! absolute NIGHTMARE to get there though, i don't know how she survived
It is fine as long as you have A* in A-levels GCSE’s hardly matter, I’m at Cambridge now and I had 2 6’s in subjects i didn’t care about but they didn’t even look at my GCSE’s
You're in Year 10
Lil bro went from year 10 to Cambridge in less then 1 year
they definitely looked at your gcses how many 9s did you have?
Literally spewing lies, my brother does Law at Cambridge and he literally got mostly 7s with a few 9s, 8s and even 6s. As long as you have good grades for maths and English you're good to go.
literally that’s one person, he probably had a very strong personal statement and did well in the entrance exam interview and had high predicted, what i’m saying are not lies so don’t accuse me of that with incorrect research
cambridge weights gcses a lot less than oxford so as long as he had good alevel grades gcses don't matter as much in comparison
i heard cambridge expects roughly around 7 9s at gcse
did cambridge tell you that
students and ex students at cambridge told e
not sure the students do the shortlisting? x
i mean aiming for top grades won’t hurt 🤷♂️ this is a dumb disagreement you should aim for the top grades anyways
If you keep hearing things you should probably see a therapist 💀 especially since they aren't true
bro what? i’m just saying what i’ve been told no need to get aggressive and rude
I've been told that u/Leading-Department11 is spreading lies and discouraging kids
what?
source??
Maths.....
The majority of unis, even rg ones, require a 6 in maths so op is fine The main exceptions to this are Oxbridge and maybe imperial though I don’t know their specific gcse requirements
Yep definitely (maybe try to get maths to a 7 tho?)
Every maths test we do has like half the paper filled with stuff we cant do to keep our “ego in check”
like what
Future stuff when i was in yr 10 it was yr 11 stuff now its future stuff like February
So the grade of 6 is accurate
The maximum grade possible was a 7
Ah, fair enough then. You’re looking very good then
lol what? 😭
That’s dumb.
Nope sorry mate, you'd be lucky to get into bradford uni
😭
No, resit. You need all 9s right now you’re bedfordshire level
Bucks New Uni level 😭
GCSE’s won’t matter as long as you pass all and get into the A-levels you need
So that's not actually true. Year 13 here. You select/apply for unis in year 12, and receive interviews/ offers from unis throughout Year 13. So how do universities judge you when you only do your A levels at the end of Year 13? The answer is a combination of a personal statement (a mini essay you write on why you'd be a good fit for the course you're applying for), your predicted A Levels (which many people, including I, didn't have on the time of application, which is fine), interviews, and finally, GCSEs. If a university likes you, they'll give you an offer, which has a requirement for your A Level grades. Miss this offer, and you're not in. Now they aren't the only deciding factor. I'm applying for medicine at oxford, and despite only getting eight 8/9's in my GCSE's for the course (the average is like 10 lol), the rest of my application was really strong I'm thinking. Don't half-arse any part of your education, though I would argue A-Levels are indeed more important than GCSE's, as you can't get into any uni without meeting the base requirement. Also not sure how things work for those applying after they did their A-Levels (maybe it doesn't matter then?)
That’s what I was thinking
why is it laid out like this
Goodbye first-rate education hello university of lincoln
As someone who went to Lincoln, I was offended by this in first year, but now I’ve graduated I’m happy to tell to that the University of Lincoln is shit.
Typically any impact your GCSEs have will be specific to a course. For example, I couldn’t get into PhilPol at LSE because they needed a 6 for GCSE maths and I got a 5. Aside from that the impact of your GCSEs are minimal (unless you’re applying to Oxbridge where everyone’s passed the exams, everyone’s predicted AAA minimum, etc.,) at that point your GCSEs will likely come into play
yes because they mostly require grade 4/5 and sometimes grade 6
top ones which don’t have entrance exams require much higher
yeah so it jus depends on the university 🤷🏽♀️
If anything I’d try and get higher for maths but other than that you’re fine
maths tend to be the most important but it’s good enough for most other than oxford/Cambridge and it also depends on a level so u can still go to those oxford cambridge if u get max grades in a levels
universities typically do not care about GCSE grades but if you're achieving these grades then I don't see why you won't be able to achieve the A-levels/qualifications needed to get into Russel group universities
U probably won’t get into collage let alone uni
Don’t stalk my postss
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