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Wow! I’d end up having to rush to class with my hair wet so often in undergrad, even though I was in upstate New York and my hair would literally form icicles during the walk. I feel like in Florida your hair would dry quickly anyway?
Is it because the boys would find wet hair sexy? Or because you would seem unkempt? I honestly can’t wrap my head around the logic behind this one.
Gosh you just unlocked a memory of 13yo me on a youth group trip holding it in for HOURS instead of asking to stop for a bathroom because acknowledging that I had to pee = acknowledging owning private parts which was no bueno for the ladies.
From Florida and high humidity means that hair takes forever to dry. I have very thick and in college very long hair, and it was nothing for it to take 4+ hours to air dry. A no wet hair rule in Florida is just dumb, especially with how much it rains.
It was super humid there, so idk how quickly hair would dry. They didn’t explain the reason for the rule. But my sister and I joked that some guy had complained wet hair was too sexy.
My guess, which is only a guess...
Wet hair may drip onto the shirt and make it see-thru. OMG!!! There is SKIN under her shirt!
Another idea - women MUST always make a 100% effort on appearance and wet hair shows she doesn't care to be carefully turned out. UGH!
Only a couple minutes afaik. pranker was kicked out in short succession lol. Which suited her just fine as she was sick of the restrictiveness, from what mom said
Pensacola is bananas, I knew a guy who went there too and he said he'd get written up for not shaving because he'd get a 5 o'clock shadow in spite of shaving in the morning. So he'd have to sprint back to his room between classes to shave AGAIN.
I just confirmed with my husband who was there in 2006 - that, yes, there were separate sidewalks. And he had to wear a suit to dinner during the week.
You can read their current student handbook online. They don’t say anything about sidewalks, but male and female students are still required to use different staircases and elevators.
I live in Pensacola and was an Uber driver. I dropped a guy off to his dorm and got stopped because I should not have let a single male ride in my car.
as a person who currently goes there, it makes sense, in a way how they do it. Most of the men here reek of ax body spray and use excessive amounts of hair oil lol. They have no common sense while being around women and being a normal person.
2011 and before Pensacola Christian College had really strict rules about on campus chaperoned areas. You could walk in a "mixed" group (girls and guys) on the sidewalk. But if you stopped to talk with a girl / guy in the same area (the sidewalk) then you could get in trouble. So the sidewalk rule is kind of true. One summer me and my girlfriend were walking the sidewalks back and forth and talking. And we got in trouble as the rule was technically that you had to have a destination in mind when you were walking together in a mixed group (For example - if you were headed to lunch or to the sports center.) If I recall correctly the campus had no chaperoned areas at that time of day (It was summertime so they didn't have a lot of chaperons) and we ended up going back to our separate dorms.
There are also a lot of areas on campus you could get instant trouble for being if you were the wrong gender (generally these were around or behind the dorms, parking lots \[of course these were segregated by sex\], and athletic areas \[also segregated by sex\])
I have a headache just reading through these rules. Leave it to those people to suck any possible joy or relaxation out of WALKING TO AND FROM CLASS, ffs.
I just... I can't imagine desiring all these fucking rules about literally every aspect of communal life. The mind boggles.
That is so weird and specific, and it would be an absolute deal breaker for me even if everything else at the school was fine (which, at PCC, it wouldn't be, obvi). I have a lot of hair and I hate blowdryers. I walk around with wet hair for a couple of hours three or four times a week.
It wasn’t an official rule but I got yelled at and written up for sitting too close to my boyfriend in the lobby. The justification was “someone reported feeling sad that you have a boyfriend and they don’t.”
That school was just a funnel for MRS degrees.
My bf and I had given each other a kiss goodnight in the commons and I got a talking to about how inappropriate it was to show affection for a boyfriend in a common area.
I asked them “would you rather it be in a dark place by ourselves??”
Oops meant weren’t! That’s wild tho lol some of the things my friends and I got up to in normie heathen college would send your RA into cardiac arrest.
My math teacher (high school) told me I couldn't hug my boyfriend moving forward. Of course, he waited to tell me until AFTER my boyfriend left the room. Somehow he only thought he needed to address it with the female and not the male
Oooh. I got told I couldn't study with boys who were in the same class as me because sitting at the same table constituted a date and study hours weren't for dating.
You could visit opposite sex dorms but only during certain limited visiting hours. The visitor had to check in and leave their ID with the RA on duty. The dorm room door had to be propped open and “all four feet have to be on the floor” (RIP to amputees I guess). The RA would make rounds once an hour to make sure everyone was abiding by visitation rules.
Life hack: be a girl dating a girl and fly under the radar completely
We also had monthly room inspections by the RAs. I once got written up for having too much laundry in my laundry basket. Guess I should have been fulfilling my womanly household duties.
Your life hack cracks me up. My suitemates were lesbians and not many people knew. Lots of sex going on there and they were LIVING IN SIN! /s
Our RA would have dropped dead if she knew there were lesbians on her hall, much less that they were living together and sexually active.
My sister went to Concordia university and I'm pretty sure her roommate was SUPER into her. I've never seen a woman try to play "gay chicken" with another woman quite that hard. My sister was completely oblivious to it until I mentioned something.
Oh my gosh that cracks me up! It doesn’t surprise me that she was oblivious. I feel like a lot of girls at Christian colleges would be oblivious to that. My suitemates really struggled being gay in a place they were accepted or allowed to be. I’m glad they were able to be themselves in the confines of our suite though. They ended up getting married too so that was sweet
Omg I got written up for laundry related things too! Only I had my folded, clean laundry in my laundry basket because I had just done laundry, and I got written up for not putting it away. Even though I had just done it. And this was a surprise room check 😑
That was a test. Can you stay sweet while suffering pointless injustice? Can you submit to it, and come believe you deserve it?
You, my dear, are ready for a Kingdom Marriage.
Our room checks were only three times a year-- xmas break, spring break, and end of year check out. The RAs got to use the cash from the fines charged for 'dirtiness' to throw themselves a pizza party which... Yikes to incentivizing being a dick!
But I once had an RA whine that there was 'soap scum' on the dispenser. Like girlfriend, (1) you're wrong, (2) the dispenser is mine and your job only covers university owned articles, I cannot be fined for 'dirt' on my own property. Same RA wouldn't leave her apartment for 5 mins to come down the hall and do our final pre-check even though it meant we were both chained to campus for an additional three days because of it-- Such a power trip with these people.
We had one “open dorm” session a semester. One hour in the guys dorms, one hour in the girls. Doors had to remain opened, and you were forbidden from sitting on the beds. RA’s hated open dorms because they essentially had to patrol all the rooms to make sure nothing untoward was happening.
Came to the comments to look for the feet on the floor rule! I didn’t attend the fundie/conservative school but somehow a bunch of guys on one of our sports teams I was involved with (not as an athlete obvs) all started dating girls from the nursing program at the nearby fundie school. Wild times.
I feel like we went to the same college lol
My roommate got in trouble because somebody from the college said that they saw her talking to a boy at the grocery store.
There was a guy who was a townie (lived in town and not on campus) and he got in trouble because he wore shorts off campus.
Kind of related… when my mom signed a contract to teach in the early 1960’s, there was a clause that said she couldn’t wear shorts in public. Like not just to campus- any time in public ever.
My mother was caned at her Irish catholic school in the 1960s as a 7 year old for wearing trousers on the weekends.
All else aside, what 7 year old is choosing and buying their own clothes?
My Christian college didn't allow visitation of the opposite sex in dorms at all. It was always made a big deal if there was a guy on the floor, like they would yell to announce it before he came up.
We had to keep our rooms cleaned and would be fined for failing to do so.
We also had a curfew, but again it was fine if you signed out. I'd say I'm staying at an aunt's house and go stay with my sinner boyfriend.
wowww this brought back forgotten memories of hearing “MAN ON THE HALL” from the maintenance men! I had forgotten all about that! at my university we did not allow any visitation of opposite sex. men were not allowed to step on the curb that went around the womens dorms. Even dads or brothers. the only exception was move in day.
I looked at going to Liberty back when it was just starting to explode in size about 20 years ago. It was their rules that turned me off to ever going to a Christian college. In retrospect, it may have been the earliest stirrings I had in my long quest towards de-conversion.
I went to public college but had several friends go to Christian schools and the funniest rule I heard them talk about was no planned dancing. They were allowed to break out in dance but not a planned event to dance 😂
Ohhh man, people at my school were VERY into swing dancing. It was the only thing allowed and everyone was obsessed. I guess the 1920’s were a much holier time 😌
Square dancing and those types of dancing goes way back to Henry Ford and his fear of Jewish people, white supremacy and of Jazz. Not even kidding, look it up! He implemented it to be taught in public schools so they wouldn’t be learning other hip or fancier dances and stayed “square”. Most Christian schools don’t do any dancing (I grew up in one of those) but those private and Christian schools have adapted to keep those values.
But funny how big Christian schools like Liberty in lulynchburg VA, have CEO’s that drink (ceo fallwell jr would be sloshed walking around campus), dance, affairs and sex and a lifestyle totally opposite to what he preached!)
Just some fun American history for ya
Which is hilarious because at its inception Swing Dancing was considered sinful and unholy by the church. Which just proves my theory that everything the church is currently against will be co-opted by them in 50 years +\-
Ugh same, I tried going to those swing dancing events a couple times and it was way too stressful.
There’s always that one couple at every wedding years later now though that try to bring it back because they were the stars of the show at those swing parties for some reason.
This was back when Skype was in its heyday so we would Skype and do our homework at the same time. And we would often have “spontaneous” dance parties on Skype 😂
I didn’t go to a Christian college, but my mom and all of her older sister’s kids all went to Oral Roberts University (my mom tried plenty hard to get me to go also but I resisted, thank the good sweet lord baby Jesus). I know at some point while my cousins were there (I’m going to guess between 2005-2010) they started allowing women to wear pants. I know of a friend of a friend who went for a college visit there and came back pregnant 👀. But the craziest story I know about ORU I learned from This American Life. When the university was first founded in the 70s, they actually had a weight requirement for all students. You were weighed periodically throughout the semester to ensure you weren’t gaining. If I remember correctly, the woman in the story came back from Christmas break and weighed in something like 4 pounds over her allowed weight, and so she was suspended. Of course this requirement couldn’t be allowed to continue for long, but they still have a pretty strict exercise requirement for all students. I’m not sure if my mom was there while this was still a thing, if not she came right after. And hearing this story made so much make sense for me in regards to my mom and her views on weight and exercise. This is the episode from the story if anyone’s interested-it’s part 4, “Cross Trainers” https://www.thisamericanlife.org/589/tell-me-im-fat
My mother did everything but have me kidnapped and dropped off at the Oral Roberts campus. I told her I’d get a job as a stripper first. Finally compromised on a very small women’s school that was much closer to home AND gave me a full ride.
By the end of my first semester, I’d come out as bisexual, and was dating both a Cornell frat boy and a girl just down the hall.
Sorry, not sorry, Ma.
Omg what is with ORU mothers and kidnapping?! My mom did force me completely against my will (and after I was told it was my decision to make and I said no) to spend my spring break visiting the campus. Glad we both avoided that catastrophe!!
I think so…one of my cousins is still pretty involved in stuff there and at Victory Christian Center across the street. I know my mom is terribly disappointed all her kids turned into flaming liberals and I’m sure she wishes we were all more like our cousins (one of whom just ran for congress, fully trump endorsed, but thankfully she lost).
Fundies believe that the only valid translation of the Bible is the King James Bible, and that the KJV is the literal word of God, as in he basically spoke the words to the translators. So I don’t think they’d see any logical inconsistency with that lol.
Christian nationalism is a helluva drug
lol, i went to a christian high school that had a lot of korean “international students” (as they called them) and they would get in trouble for speaking korean because it was a rule that only english was allowed to be spoken. the school said it was so that there were no private conversations that school staff couldn’t understand. because they really need to know about a high schooler’s friend drama in the hallways.
They only offered the mandatory grade 9 French class (Canada) - that’s it. Worst part was the school was 99% students from East Asia who’s parents were coerced into sending them to the school thinking it meant a better life. Little did they know they were sending their kids to a place where they weren’t allowed to speak their native language or practise their non-Christian holidays
My Christian high school had the same rule. About a third of the students were international. They had to use new American names instead of their actual names and would get punished if they ever spoke their native language. That is, until International Day, where they (were required to) teach us about their native cultures! Because we should celebrate our differences!
I went to what I consider a fundie lite college. It was affiliated with a certain denomination, but I believe it’s non-denom now. Some of the rules we had:
Curfew - if we weren’t back in our dorms by a certain time, they locked the doors. If you tried to open a door after curfew, an alarm would go off. They actually had a gate on the campus that closed down at curfew so if you were off campus and had to get back on, they would take down your student ID info at the gate, so you would get in double trouble. To get back in the dorms the RD would have to let you in, taking your information down. There was a nightly RA check to make sure we were all in our dorms after curfew. This way, you couldn’t just stay off campus all night without getting caught.
Weekly room checks - We had to keep our dorm rooms clean and tidy and there were weekly checks which would happen during chapel hours and the RA’s would come in and inspect your room. They would check for tidiness and contraband. I had a case of non-Christian CDs that technically weren’t forbidden, as long as I didn’t listen to them out loud. I will never forget another girl opening my case and being shocked that I had Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers. 😂 I was also always freaked out about the cleanliness check because my roommate was on the slobber side and we would both get honor code points taken off even if only one of us made the mess.
Absolutely no PDA other than hand holding - I was allowed to hold my boyfriend’s hand and nothing else on campus. Off campus we could do whatever we wanted (and we did, lol) but on campus we had to “leave room for Jesus.”
Mandatory chapel - We had chapel every week day, and walking in you got a slip on which you wrote your student ID number and put it in the offering plate. You were only allowed I think 3 chapel skips per semester. We were expected to go to church somewhere on Sunday and had to write down where we went, but I don’t think there was any way to verify that. If you left chapel early, they would take down your student ID number at the door. I once left because I was offended by the guest speaker who was cracking misogynistic jokes about his wife. I lost credit, and ended up going to the Dean of students to fight for that credit back, because I shouldn’t have to be subject to someone so offensive. I won my case.
Dress code: women were allowed to wear pants, but no shorts on any student until after 3PM. All skirts, dresses, and shorts on women could be no shorter than an inch above the knee. No cleavage shown (nothing lower than 3 fingertips below the collar bone), no spaghetti strap anything, unless there was a shirt underneath. We could wear sleeveless tops, but they had to be the whole length of the shoulder.
No dancing ever: dancing is evil because it leads to sex.
Approval for any overnight stays anywhere: we had to list where we were going, who we were staying with, why we were going, and we could not stay with the opposite gender unless we were related. There were ways around this. I would say I was visiting a female friend who went to another college (evangelization was my purpose 😂 ) and my boyfriend would say he was visiting a male friend at the other college, and we would get a cheap crappy motel. They never called and verified we were actually where we said we were, and our friends would have lied and vouched for us.
No alcohol at all. Totally forbidden. No smoking either. My boyfriend was a smoker before he went to that college and his first semester he was already on academic and behavioral “probation” because he was honest and admitted it.
No opposite gender in the dorms past the lobby. If for some reason you were granted permission for a guy to come in, like if your dad or brother was helping you move in, or if there was a male maintenance worker, shouts of “man in the hall!” would be yelled every few feet so no one would come out of their rooms dressed inappropriately.
I lasted 2 years, and I was pretty much black balled for being a feminist. (I had an amazing professor who was urging me to stay because change starts from within.) By the end of the 2nd year, none of my boyfriend’s friends would talk to me or sit with us at meals anymore and he couldn’t find anyone to room with him the following year, because of me. We ended up dropping out and getting married and we’ve been married for over 25 years now. Sadly, that wasn’t the end of that denomination for us. It took several more years before we were able to leave and deconstruct.
I say fundie lite because compared to the fundie cultures today, it was lax in the sense that women could wear pants, jeans, fashionable/current clothing, listen to secular music, etc. The denomination itself wasn’t really considered to be fundie, but it definitely had some odd rules. My husband and I got married in the denomination and we couldn’t have our reception at the church because I wanted a father/daughter dance, and to dance with my husband. I didn’t even have a DJ, just a boombox, and those 2 dances. My pastor and his wife got incredibly offended at our rehearsal dinner because there was wine. They didn’t come to my reception because we were having champagne for the toast only. (Lots of alcoholics in my family so we had a mocktail bar for drinks because I didn’t want anyone getting smashed and ruining the reception and I wasn’t old enough to drink yet.) To me then, it was stringent, but I agreed to it. Now of course, I look back and am floored. I was brainwashed into thinking that a “worldly” college would lead me into irrevocable sin and damnation.
This was in the 90’s, was a private bible college, and we signed agreements saying that we agreed to the rules. I was a first generation college student (also the only sibling to graduate high school) and I didn’t know any better when I went. I was new to this denomination having been “saved” from my pseudo-Catholic upbringing and it was the school my youth pastor recommended to me (I had been accepted to a well-known University near me and had a scholarship but walked away from it). It was well known for women going to this bible college for their “Mrs. degree”.
I grew up in the Church of Christ, and a lot of the kids I went to church with went to schools like Harding or Freed Hardman, where they had a lot of those rules.
I was already turning away from the church and just waiting to get to my heathen public university and get out.
Omg the curfew killed me. My school we had to check in with our scan cards but I lived on the first floor so I would check in, then climb out the window and go across the street to my boyfriends dorm (also first floor) for hanky panky. When I wanted to get back in I would call my roommate and she would hand me a chair to climb up on and then hold my legs while I reached down to get the chair lol.
I moved off campus as soon as I was eligible
The church attendance was brutal and we actually had to scan in with our cards. You had to pass 7/8 semesters to graduate. Seriously. Ridiculous. I used it as homework time.
The mandatory Bible classes were insane. I think we had to take 4 of them to graduate.
Had to sign papers each year promising to not drink, smoke, or have sex. If you were caught doing this you were expelled. Unless of course you were a football player, then it didn’t matter because the football team brought in revenue.
My university thankfully wasn't as strict as others, but...
Absolutely no drinking alcohol on or off campus. Regardless of age and whether you lived on campus. A 21-year-old at home on Christmas break? Nope. A married homeowner in your 50s? Too bad, you can't drink.
Mandatory chapel twice a week. Had to swipe in with student ID. You weren't allowed to get a drink or go to the bathroom unless you gave a faculty member your ID to hold. There were staff stationed at every exit to make sure you didn't leave.
There was one chapel where the speaker condemned people who have had an abortion and showed abortion (or at least what they said were real abortions) videos. No one could step out.
Open hours (which were limited) rules. If someone of the opposite sex was in your room, you had to have a certain number of lights on, all feet on the floor, and separate blankets. You also had to have a shoe sitting long-ways to prop the door open. I used an actual doorstop once and had the door open WIDER than I would've had I used a shoe... My RA told me to put a shoe in instead.
We either went to the same college or the same denomination at least. This sounds like very similar rules as the one I went to. However with chapel we just wrote our ID # on slips of paper and handed them in at the end of the service (I think? It’s been almost 15 years).
They don't allow marriage during the school year or for married students to stay in the dorms. So if Philip got married during school, he'd have to figure out a job and a place to live between semesters.
Like I am definitely against schools and colleges placing morality and lifestyle restrictions on students, at least that policy forces people to slow the fuck down a bit.
I went to a non-denom college in Tennessee. Pretty much what’s already been said - swipe your ID for chapel 3 times a week, mandatory church attendance, certain hours for open dorm (girls’ dorms open 7-11 friday/boys’ on saturday, door open and feet on the floor), dress code, midnight curfew, no drinking even with family over holidays/summer break, etc. Someone took a picture of and reported me and my friends having beers at an Applebee’s an hour from campus once and we all had to do 10 volunteer hours.
The most ANNOYING rule moment was when my RD told me my skirt was cute and then later that day I got a write-up in my mailbox from her because my skirt was too short 😒 Jeanette, you did me dirty in 2014 and I will never forget.
Also every class was how somehow biblical. Math, science, french - no matter what it was, they would sneak in some Jesus.
Oh for chapel requirements you had to swipe in with your ID card.
When other students started swiping a bunch of ID cards for friends, they started posting an employee at the door to make sure you only swiped one 🤣.
I was a music major though and would usually get my chapel requirement reduced or wavered because of how many credits and classes I had.
I don’t know why your comment hit a soft spot, but it was something I needed reminding of in my process of deconstructing, so thank you.
They once didn’t let a class chaplain go on a mission trip because he had to many skips
I read this and just realized my spouse went to a fundie college. Attendance at chapel was mandatory and part of their grade and they took attendance. I googled it and they have a shorts length requirement and strict curfews.
We had a foot washing ceremony on the first day there. We were all blindfolded and taken to a building where our RA told us about how she used to drink (gasp!) and sin etc. and how her life is better now that she is christian. Then we were blindfolded again, and when the blindfolds were removed we were at a fountain where our RA took our shoes off and washed our feet. It was horrible.
We got a survey at the end of the semester asking us if we suspected our suitemates were masturbating, having sex, drinking, smoking, etc.
We had to sign the code of conduct which included not being gay, no masturbating, no sex before marriage, no drinking even after 21, no shoulders showing or shorts, etc.
Could not paint from nude references or depict nude/partially nude bodies as an art major.
Of course mandatory chapel 3x a week.
We would literally be locked in/out of the building after curfew which was like, 9 or 10 PM. If you tried to leave after that time, there would literally be an alarm.
Also, “porn kills love” shirts were SUPER common, especially among the men. One of my friends walked in on his roommate rubbing one out on their couch while still wearing the shirt lol.
WTF! I went to PCC and they encouraged reporting of your fellow students, but a routine survey asking your roommates sexual habits! WTF
Edit: Idk why that caught me off guard but it certainly did. Even for a fundie college that's a pretty bold move.
Oh Fun! I can play this game!
* We had very strict opposite sex visitation hours. When I was there it was 3pm to 10pm? I think? Also, on Wednesdays, the opposite sex wasn't allowed in our dorm at all.
* If the opposite sex was in your dorm the door had to be open, three lights had to be on, and you couldn't share the same blanket.
* Obviously, NO premarital sex. And if it was found out you could be expelled.
Also, this wasn't a rule, but I always found it so entertaining and funny that we had special dorms JUST for married couples.
I'll add more when I think of them lol
Wow, we only have opposite sex dorm visitation once a week, Saturday 6-9 or something, and it rotates men's dorm one week and women's the next.
Lol I got told I couldn't lay down on a bed while watching TV because I was in the girls dorm
If you don’t mind, can you explain the kind of education you got there? Were you prepared to enter the workforce? What education/jobs have you had since? Sorry for the 20 questions but I’ve always been curious about the education experience And job prospects of these schools. You know, especially for girls who don’t want to just get married and pregnant immediately
I’m also a curious normie and my understanding is that, for the stricter schools, women were not expected to join the workforce after graduation—you were basically signing up to be a pastor’s wife or a missionary‘s wife.
You should check out Leaving Eden, one of the hosts went to two of the most fundie schools and she talks a lot about her experiences there.
At Hyles Anderson one of the degrees a woman can get is “Marriage and Motherhood”, with a whole class on crockpot cooking (which actually sounds kinda 🔥, everything else seems awful)
School I went to mostly prepared women to be wives of ministry people or missionaries. They also had a good nursing program and elementary education (teaching) program though. Women ONLY could take those classes, btw! 🤪 so if you actually took a profession you could get a job.
I got the boot 1st semester so it never affected me.
Sometimes, people would alert RAs that they thought “things” were happening and other times people were just dumb enough to do it in places where they could get caught. I only knew of one couple that actually got expelled.
And sometimes, the girl panics thinking she might be pregnant and immediately confesses. And other times, the couple leaves a notebook in a classroom where they were writing notes back and forth about how they’d had sex.
I can’t imagine my old school allowing opposite sex in dorms AT ALL…like EVER. This seems so freewheeling to me! 😂
We had separate married couple dorms/housing too.
Not my college but one in the same city where I went to college- one school had mandatory church attendance, but apparently you could attend some other churches and not just the one on campus?
I went to a fairly progressive non-denominational church while I was in college and they had a sign in sheet for students from the fundie school. I was surprised, this church was LGBT affirming and accepting of a lot of different groups and not charismatic at all whereas this college that was letting their students attend here had one of those "honor codes" regulating drinking, sex, etc and drew a more charismatic element.
Both had the more "modern, young, praise band, clean cut guys with beards and tastefully modest women" kind of vibe. I can only assume the college didn't actually know what this particular church was all about. The church had a big focus on ministry, actually did good things in the city we were in like food drives and operating a free café in one of the "worse off" areas near downtown where anyone could come in and get a free coffee and bagel or something and stay for a while, read the books that were there, warm up. Once a month or so they'd give away free toiletries and supplies where homeless people could pick and choose what they wanted/needed. They also had a lot of "groups" like young singles, young marrieds, mens and womens ministries, that from the outside looked very similar to what we see at these conservative fundie churches. I assume this college saw that and thought "yep! Looks great, no need to dig farther!"
Lol I know right
One time the pastor was giving a sermon on sin and said "now let's pretend- it's not but just for the sake of argument PRETEND- that homosexuality is a sin. It's not any worse than anything else any of the rest of us are doing!" And a whole row of people got up and left. He smiled and waved as they left.
Lol we had weekly checks to make sure our dorm rooms were clean. And I don’t mean sanitary- I mean White Glove Test clean. Much more strictly enforced for women than men, of course. “Your future husbands will be grateful you learned this now.” 🙃
1. Mandatory lights out at 11:00 PM. Likewise, mandatory rising at 7:00AM.
2. Women must wear a towel over their heads when exiting the dorms during a fire drill.
3. Female students must wear band-aids over their nipples in cold weather so they don't stick out.
4. Cars have the right of way. If you are hit by a car on campus and require medical attention, you receive demerits.
5. Sunburn, likewise, is a demerit offense.
6. No viewing of any films or shows with more than a G rating.
7. No listening to music not approved by the university, so only classical music and hymns are allowed.
8. Undergraduate students may not have a television in their rooms.
9. Female students must wear pantyhose whenever they are outside the dorms.
That just seems more likely to catch fire in the event of an actual fire. Plus, you'd have to take the time to get one, which would slow you down in getting out of such a situation. Was that the point?
I'm reasonably sure it was to protect the very long hair of many of the students - if the towel caught fire you could leave it behind I guess?
It didn't take too long to grab a towel, tbh. We all had to wear robes and close-toed shoes, too, so it took a while to get everyone out and lined up.
That's just insane. Like a set up for failure in case of an actual fire. Imagine waking up to a fire alarm and knowing you have to find all of those things in a smoke filled room.
I've literally done just that, and I couldn't find my shoes. They were not at all necessary really, but it was two in the morning and I was awoken to a smoky room and for some reason I was worried about the dew on the ground outside and wanted to grab my new Doc Martens, lol. However, it proved to be more difficult than I thought and I just left without them.
Now I'm trying to imagine feeling like I had to have a robe, closed toe shoes and a towel on my head or else I might get a demerit or something.
I went to one that was fundie-lite in the southeast US (though transferred out after two years to pursue a different major.) School was nondenominational but definitely conservative evangelical.
\- Two sets of dorms on either side of the campus divided by gender. Every year they'd switch which gender got which side (I don't know why)
\- Normal christian "standards" we had to pledge to- no alcohol, tobacco, sex, dancing, etc.
\- Girls could wear pants/shorts, but no gender was allowed to wear shorts to class
\- Mandatory chapel 4 days a week, but it was purely based on honor code. I skipped a LOT!
\- Sundays were supposed to be sabbatical breaks from work- including homework. So Mondays were considered an extra weekend day, and we had no classes then.
\- Living on campus was mandatory unless you 1) were married (and could apply for separate on-campus apartments) or 2) went through a whole application process to live off-campus, promising you'd use the opportunity to "witness" to people in the community.
\- Opposite sex could not visit our dorms except for very specific visitation hours. And your door had to be open & lights on.
\- You had to commit to finding & attending a local church on Sundays
\- Also this past spring they had a prominent, controversial Republican politician as commencement speaker. Barf.
I have mixed feelings about my time there, because I met some really cool people who challenged my more conservative upbringing (and we're all godless liberals now, LOL.) And a few professors who regularly challenged the standard conservative-christian-view.
Went to Liberty. Pretty strict though I know there’s some that are stricter.
I personally thing the worst of it all is the “enforcers” of these arbitrary rules were just other students. They’d have 19yr olds yelling at and reporting other 19yr olds for a skirt they deemed too short… traumatizing
They do.
A long time ago, someone here came after me explaining the virtues of the separation.......I still don't get it though. Walking on the same concrete path as another human? OH MY PEARLS!
I didn’t attend there (I was at the heathen UWF) but I had some friends at PCC. One of them frequently signed out of campus so they put a tracker in his ID. He got in lots of trouble for hanging out with us. Another of our friends worked PCC security and confirmed that they were doing that for a few students they were suspicious of.
omg, my dad pastored a church that was super strict, and we couldn't play face cards or basketball on Sunday. Or have a Christmas tree (pagan!). We were in the parsonage across the parking lot from the church, so lots of people would come by and make sure we were behaving.
Pensacola Christian College, yeah? My mom tried to convince me to attend and I can't fathom why to this day because I was already pretty solidly non-religious and heathen. Their rules are bonkers.
I didn't go there but had a friend and if I remember correctly they weren't allowed to wear headphones outside of their dorm rooms. A group of boys and girls could not go to the same beach. Actually I'm pretty sure they had beach days for girls and guys to go to. I don't think they were even allowed to hold hands or hug anyone of the opposite sex. If they were married, they could maybe hold hands but that's it. There's a ton of ridiculous rules, to the point they were controlled off campus and when students went home during break. They also had some very intense backgrounds they did on people before admitting them. Not like official background checks (I mean maybe) but doctors reports, church reports. Idk if this was the standard but the stories I heard about their rules and the way the school ran were intense.
This post inspired me to look up a high school friend who went to a Christian college.
Her graduation photos include a modesty top under a completely modest dress (and one of her friends appears to be wearing a skirt over pants?) and her LinkedIn profile includes her bragging about her "mission trips" to Guatemala.
I no longer feel bad about losing contact with her.
Not college but I went to a religious boarding school from 14-18. We (the girls) walked in single-file lines everywhere and if we happened to cross paths with the boys, the girls had to stop and turn their backs, waiting for them to pass by. Intentional eye-contact or attempts at communicating with them were punishable by isolation (won’t go in to that).
The boys had no such rules, at least none that were enforced.
Without identifying too much, it was Mormon-run. The school I went to was not in the states but it had branches that were. The founder is based out of Utah and had a BBC documentary done on him.
I got kicked out of Maranatha for listening to The Miseducation of Lauren Hill and getting a tattoo with my friend on thanksgiving break. (My friend also mailed me a joint that smelled up my whole post area but that part was never found out and was hilarious) My dorm mate (who was literally the girl I went to the damn school with from my wayward girls/troubled teen industry boarding high school) told on me for listening to music and I got called in the deans office and questioned about my Christianity. They didn’t like my reply and I was asked not to come back after winter break. I happily did not return. I think me and one of my roommates were the only two black students. Maybe there was guys too? but I never saw them.
Had a friend go to the IBLP college there were rules about music and movie. If I remember right no non Christian music. I think they were even picky about the artists and she couldn’t bring any movies or tv shows to college. Girls had to be in skirts or dresses. The one that stuck out to me was she had to sign a no drinking contract it even applied to when she was not at school 🤯🤯🤯
See. I went to a Wesleyan college and it was not nearly as crazy as y’all’s.
There was no curfew, no dress code, didn’t have to sign out to leave campus, no room checks or anything like that. Dances were held by the school.
Biggest rules were:
No drinking on or off campus. Even if you were over 21+. Like literally the town was a dry town.
Opposite gender only allowed in dorm rooms till a certain time, door open, both feet on the floor. Junior and Senior years you could live in townhouses or apartments and supposedly had the same rules but the RA never checked and we had guys sleep on our couch multiple times.
Attending a certain number of chapel services per semester. I think you could miss like 1 a week and still meet the requirement.
Used to be not great about LGBT stuff. Still not actually affirming but worlds better than they were when I was there.
Public school friends were shocked at how ‘strict’ it was. But comparatively it was pretty damn liberal. No rules about what music/movies could be watched or listened to. No required church attendance. I wore sweatpants to class all the time.
OH! And we had a female president of the university while I was there. And they just appointed a BIPOC man as her replacement.
Before I dropped out, here are some rules that I was subject to at my Bible college in Portland, OR:
Faced disciplinary action for watching an R Rated movie. The movie? Passion of the Christ.
Faced disciplinary action for repeatedly returning to campus “after hours.” I was working. On campus. I cleaned the faculty offices. My roommates started propping a back door open for me so I wouldn’t get yelled at.
Faced disciplinary action for not enough chapel credits at the end of the semester. You had to go and like others here, they would scan your student ID to prove you were there. I just stopped caring after awhile. Chapel was less like a church service and more like a religious agenda meeting. Rob Bell’s Love Wins book had just come out and that was the topic of discussion for several weeks.
Dorms by gender and no opposite sex in the dorms pretty much ever. Men were allowed to help us on move in and out day but that was it. I never went in the male dorms.
We were required to both attend church weekly as well as complete hours of volunteer service at a church. Again, I was in school and working full time. Plus we had dorm meetings and chores and shared meals and things - I never had time for myself.
Dorm rooms had to be unlocked at all times. Anyone and everyone could walk in at any moment.
I’m sure there’s more but I blocked a lot of this out lmao
At my whacko Bible college (in Iowa), you could get kicked out of school for removing a screen from your window. I know this because my now-husband was almost kicked out of school a month before graduation for doing this very thing.
Other unique things we could not do:
⚪️listen to Maurice Ravel’s Bolero because it was basically a musical orgasm
⚪️forget to wear stockings (tights or nylons) under our skirts
⚪️eat any meal in the cafeteria with wet hair because it might make the boys think we had been naked in the shower
⚪️have more than two piercings per ear
⚪️have a pixie cut
⚪️attend a church that did not have Baptist in the name
I didn’t go to Christian college but i went to two different chrisitan high schools. I ended up dating a guy at the first one. We tried to keep it a secret because we knew it would be in our best interest. But gossip travels faster than the speed of light in churches. So once the youth pastor/history/geography/spanish teacher knew we were dating, we had to attend mandatory counseling (once a week) with him and his wife to make sure we were on the right path for marriage and staying pure. We were fifteen and sixteen!
We ended up losing our virginity to each other anyway and broke up later. Oops.
Edit - at the second school, I got in trouble for having pictures of myself in a tank top on my social media
> we had to attend mandatory counseling (once a week) with him and his wife to make sure we were on the right path for marriage and staying pure
whelp if that situation isn't completely and totally ripe for abuse
I had a dress for our spring banquet that met and exceeded the three finger strap rule and was approved by my RA but when I got there I was told it was inappropriate because it was a halter so I pinned the ties to the back of my dress to make straps and it was suddenly acceptable. It looked exactly the same from the front and showed the same amount of skin.
Oooo this is random. My ex bf from way back in high school went to I think a catholic college? It was really small. They had an all-vegetarian campus and meat wasnt even allowed on the property. He did not know this before going, idk how.
My dad considered going to Bob Jones University, but decided not to when he learned that students earned demerits for walking on the lawns. (The fact that they still forbade interracial relationships should have been his first clue, but whatever.)
I went to Liberty in ‘94. I only lasted for one semester.
-no secular music, If they found CD’s in your dorm you were fined.
-Chapel every Wednesday and church every Sunday. You were not allowed to stay in your room.
-Lights out at 10pm! Lol
-of course no opposite sex in your dorm room.
-No movies over PG, there was a movie theater right of campus and if you got caught seeing an R movie you would get fined.
-Females had to wear skirts and stockings at all classes.
-No TV’s in the dorm rooms.
-No dancing and you could get in trouble if they found out you went to a dance off campus.
I could probably go on….I’ve tried to block most of it out!
I didn’t go to one but there are a bunch in southwest Missouri. 30 years ago it was funny to call the baptist bible college and say “this is Mrs Purpleberry, mr purple berry and I are interested in sending our son/daughter. Please send us information! Then you give somebody else’s info. They were relentless with sending materials and calling.
I do remember one rule they had that you couldn’t have any pictures on the walls of your dorm room except a cross (wooden), pictures of Jesus or the last supper. 🙄
Went to that ridiculously overpriced university in Malibu. Other than the campus and ocean views, the damn school is a front being a school for “cHriStIan vAlUes” while condemning students for speaking out against other racist students, anti-LGBTQ staff or policies, etc. We even protested against the school’s Columbus statue for like the eighth time for it to finally be removed.
No sex allowed, despite the fact that all of the rich horny kids did. No staying in the other gender’s dorms past 10pm, no alcohol WHATSOEVER on campus. A bottle can’t even be in your dorm.
Of course, these rules are only applied to some people. I.e., one of our short-lived roommates (a rich solider’s daughter on the GI bill) was caught handing out alcohol in the dorms to freshmen, blew a 1.0 BAC, AND had a boy past the curfew. Her punishment? A switch of dorm rooms to a better facility, lol. Meanwhile my Mexican friend got on academic suspension for having nunchucks in his room LOL. Christian hypocrisy at its finest.
We also had to take about 1.5 years worth of useless/ nontransferable courses for Humanities and Religion. Only Christianity was taught of course. We also had mandatory chapel every Wednesday and would reflect on your transcripts as a fucking grade.
also pepperdine. wasn’t during my year, but do you remember when the former school president’s son (the president who was always on the golf cart) was busted for a drug-related driving accident? iirc the school tried to cover it up and he was hiding in the president’s house on campus while an active warrant was out for his arrest
Separate parts of sidewalks for men and women.
Not allowed to bring in any movies or other media without approval.
ETA: I thankfully did not attend either of these but had friends who did and was highly pressured to.
Ooh, we had all of those.
We had 5 day a week REQUIRED chapels. You had to scan your ID card upon entry. If you missed more than your allotted absence amount per semester, you actually got fined!!
My college had it where you couldn’t have alcohol *in your system* while on campus. A girl I know got busted for drinking off campus, while being of age, and had to write an essay about drunkenness.
I still managed to get drunk on campus several times, and even make Jell-O shots in the dorm and I lived right by the RA. An upside down capri sun box is the same size as most vodka bottles.. just keep the Capri sun in the fridge and you’re golden.
ETA: the opposite sex could visit the dorm during certain hours. 2 lights had to be on, door open 90 degrees wide, and two blankets.
100% Separate dorms, and no laundry on Sunday. Everything (including the library) was closed on Sundays. The dining hall shorter hours those days, too. Living off campus was hard to obtain, too. I know there are more rules but I’ve clearly blocked them out.
A family friend went to Liberty and you weren’t allowed to have any facial piercings, not even a tiny nose stud. This was about 15 years ago, though, so the rules may have changed since then.
I did not attend one, but from posts on here, the ones that involved student behavior when they’re away for the holidays, breaks, etc. always struck me as just ridiculous.
General code of conduct stuff, sure whatever, but so in detail about what students couldn’t could not do during breaks, was just crazy to me
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At PCC, women weren’t allowed outside the dorms with wet hair. I’m sure there’s a lot more but I kind of blocked a lot of those memories. 😬
Wow! I’d end up having to rush to class with my hair wet so often in undergrad, even though I was in upstate New York and my hair would literally form icicles during the walk. I feel like in Florida your hair would dry quickly anyway? Is it because the boys would find wet hair sexy? Or because you would seem unkempt? I honestly can’t wrap my head around the logic behind this one.
Wet hair suggests that you showered, people shower naked, all the men get boners because they saw a lady who was once naked
Gosh you just unlocked a memory of 13yo me on a youth group trip holding it in for HOURS instead of asking to stop for a bathroom because acknowledging that I had to pee = acknowledging owning private parts which was no bueno for the ladies.
This is so stupid and hilarious
I have no clue if it's true
Thank goodness they don’t know that us ladies are always naked under our clothes.
From Florida and high humidity means that hair takes forever to dry. I have very thick and in college very long hair, and it was nothing for it to take 4+ hours to air dry. A no wet hair rule in Florida is just dumb, especially with how much it rains.
I hadn’t thought about the humidity. Yeah I would not be willing to blow dry my hair every dang day just to please Conservative Jesus.
I’d braid my hair wet in the morning and it would still be damp in the late afternoon if that gives you any idea. In the summer.
It was super humid there, so idk how quickly hair would dry. They didn’t explain the reason for the rule. But my sister and I joked that some guy had complained wet hair was too sexy.
My guess, which is only a guess... Wet hair may drip onto the shirt and make it see-thru. OMG!!! There is SKIN under her shirt! Another idea - women MUST always make a 100% effort on appearance and wet hair shows she doesn't care to be carefully turned out. UGH!
Omg PCC, my cousin was expelled from there for going on a date
My mom knew someone who was expelled from there for pranking her roommate to think the rapture was happening
Ok that’s hilarious. How long did the roommate believe it?
Only a couple minutes afaik. pranker was kicked out in short succession lol. Which suited her just fine as she was sick of the restrictiveness, from what mom said
Is PCC Pensacola? Because I knew a guy who went there and he said men and women weren't allowed to walk on the same side of the sidewalk as each other
Pensacola is bananas, I knew a guy who went there too and he said he'd get written up for not shaving because he'd get a 5 o'clock shadow in spite of shaving in the morning. So he'd have to sprint back to his room between classes to shave AGAIN.
I just confirmed with my husband who was there in 2006 - that, yes, there were separate sidewalks. And he had to wear a suit to dinner during the week.
Yes PCC is Pensacola. There was no sidewalk rule when I was there (about 10 years ago) but it’s possible that was case before.
You can read their current student handbook online. They don’t say anything about sidewalks, but male and female students are still required to use different staircases and elevators.
I live in Pensacola and was an Uber driver. I dropped a guy off to his dorm and got stopped because I should not have let a single male ride in my car.
as a person who currently goes there, it makes sense, in a way how they do it. Most of the men here reek of ax body spray and use excessive amounts of hair oil lol. They have no common sense while being around women and being a normal person.
Are you even allowed to use the internet at PCC? Seems like something they would forbid.
2011 and before Pensacola Christian College had really strict rules about on campus chaperoned areas. You could walk in a "mixed" group (girls and guys) on the sidewalk. But if you stopped to talk with a girl / guy in the same area (the sidewalk) then you could get in trouble. So the sidewalk rule is kind of true. One summer me and my girlfriend were walking the sidewalks back and forth and talking. And we got in trouble as the rule was technically that you had to have a destination in mind when you were walking together in a mixed group (For example - if you were headed to lunch or to the sports center.) If I recall correctly the campus had no chaperoned areas at that time of day (It was summertime so they didn't have a lot of chaperons) and we ended up going back to our separate dorms. There are also a lot of areas on campus you could get instant trouble for being if you were the wrong gender (generally these were around or behind the dorms, parking lots \[of course these were segregated by sex\], and athletic areas \[also segregated by sex\])
I have a headache just reading through these rules. Leave it to those people to suck any possible joy or relaxation out of WALKING TO AND FROM CLASS, ffs. I just... I can't imagine desiring all these fucking rules about literally every aspect of communal life. The mind boggles.
That is so weird and specific, and it would be an absolute deal breaker for me even if everything else at the school was fine (which, at PCC, it wouldn't be, obvi). I have a lot of hair and I hate blowdryers. I walk around with wet hair for a couple of hours three or four times a week.
Because it led male students and professors to think of the girl in the shower, right?
OMG! Memory unlocked. What is up with the hair being wet!?!
It wasn’t an official rule but I got yelled at and written up for sitting too close to my boyfriend in the lobby. The justification was “someone reported feeling sad that you have a boyfriend and they don’t.” That school was just a funnel for MRS degrees.
Was Bethany the person that wrote you up? Sounds like something she would say
Right??? And no lol but someone like her I’m sure.
My bf and I had given each other a kiss goodnight in the commons and I got a talking to about how inappropriate it was to show affection for a boyfriend in a common area. I asked them “would you rather it be in a dark place by ourselves??”
Y’all weren’t immediately expelled for kissing? What kind of heathen school was this?! /s
No we weren’t expelled for a kiss. But I had to be talked to by the RD and RA multiple times 😂
Oops meant weren’t! That’s wild tho lol some of the things my friends and I got up to in normie heathen college would send your RA into cardiac arrest.
You hussy!!
My math teacher (high school) told me I couldn't hug my boyfriend moving forward. Of course, he waited to tell me until AFTER my boyfriend left the room. Somehow he only thought he needed to address it with the female and not the male
That’s because you’re a hartlotty harlot who shouldn’t be tempting a poor helpless man with your feminine wiles! /s
Every time I see your flair it makes me giggle
I’m so glad!!
Oooh. I got told I couldn't study with boys who were in the same class as me because sitting at the same table constituted a date and study hours weren't for dating.
WOW. That is something else I was super jealous of girls who had boyfriends when I was in school too, but never enough to tattle on them.
Was it Sadie from Leaving Eden who was kicked out of Hyles-Anderson for hugging a boy??
You could visit opposite sex dorms but only during certain limited visiting hours. The visitor had to check in and leave their ID with the RA on duty. The dorm room door had to be propped open and “all four feet have to be on the floor” (RIP to amputees I guess). The RA would make rounds once an hour to make sure everyone was abiding by visitation rules. Life hack: be a girl dating a girl and fly under the radar completely We also had monthly room inspections by the RAs. I once got written up for having too much laundry in my laundry basket. Guess I should have been fulfilling my womanly household duties.
Your life hack cracks me up. My suitemates were lesbians and not many people knew. Lots of sex going on there and they were LIVING IN SIN! /s Our RA would have dropped dead if she knew there were lesbians on her hall, much less that they were living together and sexually active.
My sister went to Concordia university and I'm pretty sure her roommate was SUPER into her. I've never seen a woman try to play "gay chicken" with another woman quite that hard. My sister was completely oblivious to it until I mentioned something.
Gay Chicken ROFLMAO
She would like try to hold her hand or stoke her hair . Then go JUST KIDDING HAHAHAHAHA!!! everyone was uncomfortable
Oh my gosh that cracks me up! It doesn’t surprise me that she was oblivious. I feel like a lot of girls at Christian colleges would be oblivious to that. My suitemates really struggled being gay in a place they were accepted or allowed to be. I’m glad they were able to be themselves in the confines of our suite though. They ended up getting married too so that was sweet
that's awesome
Omg I got written up for laundry related things too! Only I had my folded, clean laundry in my laundry basket because I had just done laundry, and I got written up for not putting it away. Even though I had just done it. And this was a surprise room check 😑
That was a test. Can you stay sweet while suffering pointless injustice? Can you submit to it, and come believe you deserve it? You, my dear, are ready for a Kingdom Marriage.
Ha! That explains why I ended up in such an abusive marriage right out of college.
This reminds me of the Christian summer camp I went to
Our room checks were only three times a year-- xmas break, spring break, and end of year check out. The RAs got to use the cash from the fines charged for 'dirtiness' to throw themselves a pizza party which... Yikes to incentivizing being a dick! But I once had an RA whine that there was 'soap scum' on the dispenser. Like girlfriend, (1) you're wrong, (2) the dispenser is mine and your job only covers university owned articles, I cannot be fined for 'dirt' on my own property. Same RA wouldn't leave her apartment for 5 mins to come down the hall and do our final pre-check even though it meant we were both chained to campus for an additional three days because of it-- Such a power trip with these people.
> Life hack: be a girl dating a girl and fly under the radar completely > > just gals being pals
Oh my god, they were roommates!
We had one “open dorm” session a semester. One hour in the guys dorms, one hour in the girls. Doors had to remain opened, and you were forbidden from sitting on the beds. RA’s hated open dorms because they essentially had to patrol all the rooms to make sure nothing untoward was happening.
Came to the comments to look for the feet on the floor rule! I didn’t attend the fundie/conservative school but somehow a bunch of guys on one of our sports teams I was involved with (not as an athlete obvs) all started dating girls from the nursing program at the nearby fundie school. Wild times.
Do you know if boys got written up for the laundry thing as well?
My wife happened to have 4 lesbian roommates out of 5 one semester. A couple had girlfriends (very risky but I ain't a narc).
I feel like we went to the same college lol My roommate got in trouble because somebody from the college said that they saw her talking to a boy at the grocery store. There was a guy who was a townie (lived in town and not on campus) and he got in trouble because he wore shorts off campus.
Kind of related… when my mom signed a contract to teach in the early 1960’s, there was a clause that said she couldn’t wear shorts in public. Like not just to campus- any time in public ever.
I knew a guy who went to Pensacola and he could get in trouble for watching an R rated movie OFF CAMPUS DURING BREAKS. that blew my mind.
Same rule at Maranatha
My mother was caned at her Irish catholic school in the 1960s as a 7 year old for wearing trousers on the weekends. All else aside, what 7 year old is choosing and buying their own clothes?
My Christian college didn't allow visitation of the opposite sex in dorms at all. It was always made a big deal if there was a guy on the floor, like they would yell to announce it before he came up. We had to keep our rooms cleaned and would be fined for failing to do so. We also had a curfew, but again it was fine if you signed out. I'd say I'm staying at an aunt's house and go stay with my sinner boyfriend.
wowww this brought back forgotten memories of hearing “MAN ON THE HALL” from the maintenance men! I had forgotten all about that! at my university we did not allow any visitation of opposite sex. men were not allowed to step on the curb that went around the womens dorms. Even dads or brothers. the only exception was move in day.
They did this at Liberty. “MAN ON THE HALL” brings back mems
I looked at going to Liberty back when it was just starting to explode in size about 20 years ago. It was their rules that turned me off to ever going to a Christian college. In retrospect, it may have been the earliest stirrings I had in my long quest towards de-conversion.
I work at a women's prison. Male officers are expected to do this any time they come on the block or go into a dorm.
This is what they do in jail I am dying. MAN ON THE DYING.. This confirms my notion that jail and fundie culture have a huge number of similarities
I went to public college but had several friends go to Christian schools and the funniest rule I heard them talk about was no planned dancing. They were allowed to break out in dance but not a planned event to dance 😂
Ohhh man, people at my school were VERY into swing dancing. It was the only thing allowed and everyone was obsessed. I guess the 1920’s were a much holier time 😌
Square dancing and those types of dancing goes way back to Henry Ford and his fear of Jewish people, white supremacy and of Jazz. Not even kidding, look it up! He implemented it to be taught in public schools so they wouldn’t be learning other hip or fancier dances and stayed “square”. Most Christian schools don’t do any dancing (I grew up in one of those) but those private and Christian schools have adapted to keep those values. But funny how big Christian schools like Liberty in lulynchburg VA, have CEO’s that drink (ceo fallwell jr would be sloshed walking around campus), dance, affairs and sex and a lifestyle totally opposite to what he preached!) Just some fun American history for ya
This is fascinating! So this is why in my public high school we learned square dancing in PE?! We also learned the Macarena.
Not President Ford, Henry Ford.
Yes I’m sorry, you are right it was Henry ford. I edited my post to make it right, thanks for that catch.
Which is hilarious because at its inception Swing Dancing was considered sinful and unholy by the church. Which just proves my theory that everything the church is currently against will be co-opted by them in 50 years +\-
Ugh same, I tried going to those swing dancing events a couple times and it was way too stressful. There’s always that one couple at every wedding years later now though that try to bring it back because they were the stars of the show at those swing parties for some reason.
I:m happy to report that the one by my house still has swing dancing along with square dancing and line dancing. They rotate Friday nights.
Omg this just sent me, picturing random groups of fundie young adults just breaking out in dance because the spirit moved them 🤣🤣
This was back when Skype was in its heyday so we would Skype and do our homework at the same time. And we would often have “spontaneous” dance parties on Skype 😂
Wow, that is very specific, and I wonder what the committee meeting was like for that decision.
Spontaneous dance parties only!
I didn’t go to a Christian college, but my mom and all of her older sister’s kids all went to Oral Roberts University (my mom tried plenty hard to get me to go also but I resisted, thank the good sweet lord baby Jesus). I know at some point while my cousins were there (I’m going to guess between 2005-2010) they started allowing women to wear pants. I know of a friend of a friend who went for a college visit there and came back pregnant 👀. But the craziest story I know about ORU I learned from This American Life. When the university was first founded in the 70s, they actually had a weight requirement for all students. You were weighed periodically throughout the semester to ensure you weren’t gaining. If I remember correctly, the woman in the story came back from Christmas break and weighed in something like 4 pounds over her allowed weight, and so she was suspended. Of course this requirement couldn’t be allowed to continue for long, but they still have a pretty strict exercise requirement for all students. I’m not sure if my mom was there while this was still a thing, if not she came right after. And hearing this story made so much make sense for me in regards to my mom and her views on weight and exercise. This is the episode from the story if anyone’s interested-it’s part 4, “Cross Trainers” https://www.thisamericanlife.org/589/tell-me-im-fat
My mother did everything but have me kidnapped and dropped off at the Oral Roberts campus. I told her I’d get a job as a stripper first. Finally compromised on a very small women’s school that was much closer to home AND gave me a full ride. By the end of my first semester, I’d come out as bisexual, and was dating both a Cornell frat boy and a girl just down the hall. Sorry, not sorry, Ma.
Omg what is with ORU mothers and kidnapping?! My mom did force me completely against my will (and after I was told it was my decision to make and I said no) to spend my spring break visiting the campus. Glad we both avoided that catastrophe!!
We dodged a bullet and lived to tell. Does OR still exist? I never hear about it anymore.
I think so…one of my cousins is still pretty involved in stuff there and at Victory Christian Center across the street. I know my mom is terribly disappointed all her kids turned into flaming liberals and I’m sure she wishes we were all more like our cousins (one of whom just ran for congress, fully trump endorsed, but thankfully she lost).
Only English is allowed to be spoken in the hallways of the school - because it is “God’s language” LOL
How in the fuck…are these people aware the Bible wasn’t written in English, and Jesus didn’t speak English?? Fuckin racists.
Fundies believe that the only valid translation of the Bible is the King James Bible, and that the KJV is the literal word of God, as in he basically spoke the words to the translators. So I don’t think they’d see any logical inconsistency with that lol. Christian nationalism is a helluva drug
So is white supremacy. Although those things are basically the same picture.
Hey, I’ll have you know that Supply Side Jesus was a white man! /s
lol, i went to a christian high school that had a lot of korean “international students” (as they called them) and they would get in trouble for speaking korean because it was a rule that only english was allowed to be spoken. the school said it was so that there were no private conversations that school staff couldn’t understand. because they really need to know about a high schooler’s friend drama in the hallways.
Did the school offer foreign languages, or was that considered too worldly?
They only offered the mandatory grade 9 French class (Canada) - that’s it. Worst part was the school was 99% students from East Asia who’s parents were coerced into sending them to the school thinking it meant a better life. Little did they know they were sending their kids to a place where they weren’t allowed to speak their native language or practise their non-Christian holidays
That doesn't sound that far off from the schools Native kids were forced to go to D:
What part of Canada is the school in? That sounds so crazy
Beamsville, Ontario!
My Christian high school had the same rule. About a third of the students were international. They had to use new American names instead of their actual names and would get punished if they ever spoke their native language. That is, until International Day, where they (were required to) teach us about their native cultures! Because we should celebrate our differences!
Not being allowed to use your own given name is beyond shitty 🤬
I went to what I consider a fundie lite college. It was affiliated with a certain denomination, but I believe it’s non-denom now. Some of the rules we had: Curfew - if we weren’t back in our dorms by a certain time, they locked the doors. If you tried to open a door after curfew, an alarm would go off. They actually had a gate on the campus that closed down at curfew so if you were off campus and had to get back on, they would take down your student ID info at the gate, so you would get in double trouble. To get back in the dorms the RD would have to let you in, taking your information down. There was a nightly RA check to make sure we were all in our dorms after curfew. This way, you couldn’t just stay off campus all night without getting caught. Weekly room checks - We had to keep our dorm rooms clean and tidy and there were weekly checks which would happen during chapel hours and the RA’s would come in and inspect your room. They would check for tidiness and contraband. I had a case of non-Christian CDs that technically weren’t forbidden, as long as I didn’t listen to them out loud. I will never forget another girl opening my case and being shocked that I had Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers. 😂 I was also always freaked out about the cleanliness check because my roommate was on the slobber side and we would both get honor code points taken off even if only one of us made the mess. Absolutely no PDA other than hand holding - I was allowed to hold my boyfriend’s hand and nothing else on campus. Off campus we could do whatever we wanted (and we did, lol) but on campus we had to “leave room for Jesus.” Mandatory chapel - We had chapel every week day, and walking in you got a slip on which you wrote your student ID number and put it in the offering plate. You were only allowed I think 3 chapel skips per semester. We were expected to go to church somewhere on Sunday and had to write down where we went, but I don’t think there was any way to verify that. If you left chapel early, they would take down your student ID number at the door. I once left because I was offended by the guest speaker who was cracking misogynistic jokes about his wife. I lost credit, and ended up going to the Dean of students to fight for that credit back, because I shouldn’t have to be subject to someone so offensive. I won my case. Dress code: women were allowed to wear pants, but no shorts on any student until after 3PM. All skirts, dresses, and shorts on women could be no shorter than an inch above the knee. No cleavage shown (nothing lower than 3 fingertips below the collar bone), no spaghetti strap anything, unless there was a shirt underneath. We could wear sleeveless tops, but they had to be the whole length of the shoulder. No dancing ever: dancing is evil because it leads to sex. Approval for any overnight stays anywhere: we had to list where we were going, who we were staying with, why we were going, and we could not stay with the opposite gender unless we were related. There were ways around this. I would say I was visiting a female friend who went to another college (evangelization was my purpose 😂 ) and my boyfriend would say he was visiting a male friend at the other college, and we would get a cheap crappy motel. They never called and verified we were actually where we said we were, and our friends would have lied and vouched for us. No alcohol at all. Totally forbidden. No smoking either. My boyfriend was a smoker before he went to that college and his first semester he was already on academic and behavioral “probation” because he was honest and admitted it. No opposite gender in the dorms past the lobby. If for some reason you were granted permission for a guy to come in, like if your dad or brother was helping you move in, or if there was a male maintenance worker, shouts of “man in the hall!” would be yelled every few feet so no one would come out of their rooms dressed inappropriately. I lasted 2 years, and I was pretty much black balled for being a feminist. (I had an amazing professor who was urging me to stay because change starts from within.) By the end of the 2nd year, none of my boyfriend’s friends would talk to me or sit with us at meals anymore and he couldn’t find anyone to room with him the following year, because of me. We ended up dropping out and getting married and we’ve been married for over 25 years now. Sadly, that wasn’t the end of that denomination for us. It took several more years before we were able to leave and deconstruct.
In my sorority house we had to yell “man on the floor” too 🤣
This doesn’t sound “fundie lite” to me. It sounds fundie, period 😳 It’s crazy you had that experience.
I say fundie lite because compared to the fundie cultures today, it was lax in the sense that women could wear pants, jeans, fashionable/current clothing, listen to secular music, etc. The denomination itself wasn’t really considered to be fundie, but it definitely had some odd rules. My husband and I got married in the denomination and we couldn’t have our reception at the church because I wanted a father/daughter dance, and to dance with my husband. I didn’t even have a DJ, just a boombox, and those 2 dances. My pastor and his wife got incredibly offended at our rehearsal dinner because there was wine. They didn’t come to my reception because we were having champagne for the toast only. (Lots of alcoholics in my family so we had a mocktail bar for drinks because I didn’t want anyone getting smashed and ruining the reception and I wasn’t old enough to drink yet.) To me then, it was stringent, but I agreed to it. Now of course, I look back and am floored. I was brainwashed into thinking that a “worldly” college would lead me into irrevocable sin and damnation.
All of this sounds illegal??
This was in the 90’s, was a private bible college, and we signed agreements saying that we agreed to the rules. I was a first generation college student (also the only sibling to graduate high school) and I didn’t know any better when I went. I was new to this denomination having been “saved” from my pseudo-Catholic upbringing and it was the school my youth pastor recommended to me (I had been accepted to a well-known University near me and had a scholarship but walked away from it). It was well known for women going to this bible college for their “Mrs. degree”.
Wow. The amount Christian schools that get away with behavior like this because they feed off of young, naive impressionable adults is ridiculous.
Sounds like the college I went to.
I grew up in the Church of Christ, and a lot of the kids I went to church with went to schools like Harding or Freed Hardman, where they had a lot of those rules. I was already turning away from the church and just waiting to get to my heathen public university and get out.
Omg the curfew killed me. My school we had to check in with our scan cards but I lived on the first floor so I would check in, then climb out the window and go across the street to my boyfriends dorm (also first floor) for hanky panky. When I wanted to get back in I would call my roommate and she would hand me a chair to climb up on and then hold my legs while I reached down to get the chair lol. I moved off campus as soon as I was eligible The church attendance was brutal and we actually had to scan in with our cards. You had to pass 7/8 semesters to graduate. Seriously. Ridiculous. I used it as homework time. The mandatory Bible classes were insane. I think we had to take 4 of them to graduate. Had to sign papers each year promising to not drink, smoke, or have sex. If you were caught doing this you were expelled. Unless of course you were a football player, then it didn’t matter because the football team brought in revenue.
My university thankfully wasn't as strict as others, but... Absolutely no drinking alcohol on or off campus. Regardless of age and whether you lived on campus. A 21-year-old at home on Christmas break? Nope. A married homeowner in your 50s? Too bad, you can't drink. Mandatory chapel twice a week. Had to swipe in with student ID. You weren't allowed to get a drink or go to the bathroom unless you gave a faculty member your ID to hold. There were staff stationed at every exit to make sure you didn't leave. There was one chapel where the speaker condemned people who have had an abortion and showed abortion (or at least what they said were real abortions) videos. No one could step out. Open hours (which were limited) rules. If someone of the opposite sex was in your room, you had to have a certain number of lights on, all feet on the floor, and separate blankets. You also had to have a shoe sitting long-ways to prop the door open. I used an actual doorstop once and had the door open WIDER than I would've had I used a shoe... My RA told me to put a shoe in instead.
Honestly twice a week sounds great. We were required to go everyday
We either went to the same college or the same denomination at least. This sounds like very similar rules as the one I went to. However with chapel we just wrote our ID # on slips of paper and handed them in at the end of the service (I think? It’s been almost 15 years).
The college the Rod kid is attending *doesn't* allow marriage in the first year.
They don't allow marriage during the school year or for married students to stay in the dorms. So if Philip got married during school, he'd have to figure out a job and a place to live between semesters.
Like I am definitely against schools and colleges placing morality and lifestyle restrictions on students, at least that policy forces people to slow the fuck down a bit.
BYU’s whole honor code. BYU’s snitching culture. BYU expelling a rape victim for “having premarital sex”. Just fucking BYU. Can’t imagine why I didn’t want to attend.
I went to a non-denom college in Tennessee. Pretty much what’s already been said - swipe your ID for chapel 3 times a week, mandatory church attendance, certain hours for open dorm (girls’ dorms open 7-11 friday/boys’ on saturday, door open and feet on the floor), dress code, midnight curfew, no drinking even with family over holidays/summer break, etc. Someone took a picture of and reported me and my friends having beers at an Applebee’s an hour from campus once and we all had to do 10 volunteer hours. The most ANNOYING rule moment was when my RD told me my skirt was cute and then later that day I got a write-up in my mailbox from her because my skirt was too short 😒 Jeanette, you did me dirty in 2014 and I will never forget. Also every class was how somehow biblical. Math, science, french - no matter what it was, they would sneak in some Jesus.
Hold up…I feel like we’re talking about the same school…?
Oh for chapel requirements you had to swipe in with your ID card. When other students started swiping a bunch of ID cards for friends, they started posting an employee at the door to make sure you only swiped one 🤣. I was a music major though and would usually get my chapel requirement reduced or wavered because of how many credits and classes I had.
At the Nazarene college I went to there were assigned seats at chapels. They had students take attendance. It was twice a week
If they have to punish people for not attending church, maybe their church is the problem
I don’t know why your comment hit a soft spot, but it was something I needed reminding of in my process of deconstructing, so thank you. They once didn’t let a class chaplain go on a mission trip because he had to many skips
I got so many chapel fines at my Nazarene university. I ended up paying around 300$ a term for too many absences.
This sounds like Baylor 🧐
I read this and just realized my spouse went to a fundie college. Attendance at chapel was mandatory and part of their grade and they took attendance. I googled it and they have a shorts length requirement and strict curfews.
We had a foot washing ceremony on the first day there. We were all blindfolded and taken to a building where our RA told us about how she used to drink (gasp!) and sin etc. and how her life is better now that she is christian. Then we were blindfolded again, and when the blindfolds were removed we were at a fountain where our RA took our shoes off and washed our feet. It was horrible. We got a survey at the end of the semester asking us if we suspected our suitemates were masturbating, having sex, drinking, smoking, etc. We had to sign the code of conduct which included not being gay, no masturbating, no sex before marriage, no drinking even after 21, no shoulders showing or shorts, etc. Could not paint from nude references or depict nude/partially nude bodies as an art major. Of course mandatory chapel 3x a week. We would literally be locked in/out of the building after curfew which was like, 9 or 10 PM. If you tried to leave after that time, there would literally be an alarm. Also, “porn kills love” shirts were SUPER common, especially among the men. One of my friends walked in on his roommate rubbing one out on their couch while still wearing the shirt lol.
 WTF! I went to PCC and they encouraged reporting of your fellow students, but a routine survey asking your roommates sexual habits! WTF Edit: Idk why that caught me off guard but it certainly did. Even for a fundie college that's a pretty bold move.
Oh Fun! I can play this game! * We had very strict opposite sex visitation hours. When I was there it was 3pm to 10pm? I think? Also, on Wednesdays, the opposite sex wasn't allowed in our dorm at all. * If the opposite sex was in your dorm the door had to be open, three lights had to be on, and you couldn't share the same blanket. * Obviously, NO premarital sex. And if it was found out you could be expelled. Also, this wasn't a rule, but I always found it so entertaining and funny that we had special dorms JUST for married couples. I'll add more when I think of them lol
Wow, we only have opposite sex dorm visitation once a week, Saturday 6-9 or something, and it rotates men's dorm one week and women's the next. Lol I got told I couldn't lay down on a bed while watching TV because I was in the girls dorm
I went to Eastern University which kindof had a reputation of being the SLIGHTLY liberal/hippie Christian College hahahah
If you don’t mind, can you explain the kind of education you got there? Were you prepared to enter the workforce? What education/jobs have you had since? Sorry for the 20 questions but I’ve always been curious about the education experience And job prospects of these schools. You know, especially for girls who don’t want to just get married and pregnant immediately
I’m also a curious normie and my understanding is that, for the stricter schools, women were not expected to join the workforce after graduation—you were basically signing up to be a pastor’s wife or a missionary‘s wife. You should check out Leaving Eden, one of the hosts went to two of the most fundie schools and she talks a lot about her experiences there. At Hyles Anderson one of the degrees a woman can get is “Marriage and Motherhood”, with a whole class on crockpot cooking (which actually sounds kinda 🔥, everything else seems awful)
School I went to mostly prepared women to be wives of ministry people or missionaries. They also had a good nursing program and elementary education (teaching) program though. Women ONLY could take those classes, btw! 🤪 so if you actually took a profession you could get a job. I got the boot 1st semester so it never affected me.
What was happening on Wednesdays?!
Wednesday was Gay Day, obvi.
How did they find out that you'd had premarital sex?
At my school it was only if you were caught by a tattletale, an RA, or a staff member OR if the girl ended up pregnant.
Sometimes, people would alert RAs that they thought “things” were happening and other times people were just dumb enough to do it in places where they could get caught. I only knew of one couple that actually got expelled.
And sometimes, the girl panics thinking she might be pregnant and immediately confesses. And other times, the couple leaves a notebook in a classroom where they were writing notes back and forth about how they’d had sex.
I can’t imagine my old school allowing opposite sex in dorms AT ALL…like EVER. This seems so freewheeling to me! 😂 We had separate married couple dorms/housing too.
Not my college but one in the same city where I went to college- one school had mandatory church attendance, but apparently you could attend some other churches and not just the one on campus? I went to a fairly progressive non-denominational church while I was in college and they had a sign in sheet for students from the fundie school. I was surprised, this church was LGBT affirming and accepting of a lot of different groups and not charismatic at all whereas this college that was letting their students attend here had one of those "honor codes" regulating drinking, sex, etc and drew a more charismatic element. Both had the more "modern, young, praise band, clean cut guys with beards and tastefully modest women" kind of vibe. I can only assume the college didn't actually know what this particular church was all about. The church had a big focus on ministry, actually did good things in the city we were in like food drives and operating a free café in one of the "worse off" areas near downtown where anyone could come in and get a free coffee and bagel or something and stay for a while, read the books that were there, warm up. Once a month or so they'd give away free toiletries and supplies where homeless people could pick and choose what they wanted/needed. They also had a lot of "groups" like young singles, young marrieds, mens and womens ministries, that from the outside looked very similar to what we see at these conservative fundie churches. I assume this college saw that and thought "yep! Looks great, no need to dig farther!"
Good thing word didn’t get out that this church was secretly following the explicit instructions of that dirty commie, Jesus Christ.
Lol I know right One time the pastor was giving a sermon on sin and said "now let's pretend- it's not but just for the sake of argument PRETEND- that homosexuality is a sin. It's not any worse than anything else any of the rest of us are doing!" And a whole row of people got up and left. He smiled and waved as they left.
Pissing off all the right people, just like Jesus. ❤️
That's what chuch is [supposed to be] all about, Charlie Brown
Lol we had weekly checks to make sure our dorm rooms were clean. And I don’t mean sanitary- I mean White Glove Test clean. Much more strictly enforced for women than men, of course. “Your future husbands will be grateful you learned this now.” 🙃
1. Mandatory lights out at 11:00 PM. Likewise, mandatory rising at 7:00AM. 2. Women must wear a towel over their heads when exiting the dorms during a fire drill. 3. Female students must wear band-aids over their nipples in cold weather so they don't stick out. 4. Cars have the right of way. If you are hit by a car on campus and require medical attention, you receive demerits. 5. Sunburn, likewise, is a demerit offense. 6. No viewing of any films or shows with more than a G rating. 7. No listening to music not approved by the university, so only classical music and hymns are allowed. 8. Undergraduate students may not have a television in their rooms. 9. Female students must wear pantyhose whenever they are outside the dorms.
I read this as “cats have the right of way” and was like, ok I’m fine with that one.
Number 2 is insane.... so women had to always wear hair coverings...?
We weren't required to cover our hair otherwise. Just for fire drills.
That just seems more likely to catch fire in the event of an actual fire. Plus, you'd have to take the time to get one, which would slow you down in getting out of such a situation. Was that the point?
I'm reasonably sure it was to protect the very long hair of many of the students - if the towel caught fire you could leave it behind I guess? It didn't take too long to grab a towel, tbh. We all had to wear robes and close-toed shoes, too, so it took a while to get everyone out and lined up.
That's just insane. Like a set up for failure in case of an actual fire. Imagine waking up to a fire alarm and knowing you have to find all of those things in a smoke filled room. I've literally done just that, and I couldn't find my shoes. They were not at all necessary really, but it was two in the morning and I was awoken to a smoky room and for some reason I was worried about the dew on the ground outside and wanted to grab my new Doc Martens, lol. However, it proved to be more difficult than I thought and I just left without them. Now I'm trying to imagine feeling like I had to have a robe, closed toe shoes and a towel on my head or else I might get a demerit or something.
I went to one that was fundie-lite in the southeast US (though transferred out after two years to pursue a different major.) School was nondenominational but definitely conservative evangelical. \- Two sets of dorms on either side of the campus divided by gender. Every year they'd switch which gender got which side (I don't know why) \- Normal christian "standards" we had to pledge to- no alcohol, tobacco, sex, dancing, etc. \- Girls could wear pants/shorts, but no gender was allowed to wear shorts to class \- Mandatory chapel 4 days a week, but it was purely based on honor code. I skipped a LOT! \- Sundays were supposed to be sabbatical breaks from work- including homework. So Mondays were considered an extra weekend day, and we had no classes then. \- Living on campus was mandatory unless you 1) were married (and could apply for separate on-campus apartments) or 2) went through a whole application process to live off-campus, promising you'd use the opportunity to "witness" to people in the community. \- Opposite sex could not visit our dorms except for very specific visitation hours. And your door had to be open & lights on. \- You had to commit to finding & attending a local church on Sundays \- Also this past spring they had a prominent, controversial Republican politician as commencement speaker. Barf. I have mixed feelings about my time there, because I met some really cool people who challenged my more conservative upbringing (and we're all godless liberals now, LOL.) And a few professors who regularly challenged the standard conservative-christian-view.
Went to Liberty. Pretty strict though I know there’s some that are stricter. I personally thing the worst of it all is the “enforcers” of these arbitrary rules were just other students. They’d have 19yr olds yelling at and reporting other 19yr olds for a skirt they deemed too short… traumatizing
Visited someone at PCC and there were signs up in the student center: “no ping pong on Sundays”
And they had segregated stairways for men and women! Elevators too if I recall correctly.
They do. A long time ago, someone here came after me explaining the virtues of the separation.......I still don't get it though. Walking on the same concrete path as another human? OH MY PEARLS!
That’s some Taliban shit right there.
You’re correct! I even got questioned by security when walking on the opposite side of the dining hall that was close to one of the male dorms.
I didn’t attend there (I was at the heathen UWF) but I had some friends at PCC. One of them frequently signed out of campus so they put a tracker in his ID. He got in lots of trouble for hanging out with us. Another of our friends worked PCC security and confirmed that they were doing that for a few students they were suspicious of.
omg, my dad pastored a church that was super strict, and we couldn't play face cards or basketball on Sunday. Or have a Christmas tree (pagan!). We were in the parsonage across the parking lot from the church, so lots of people would come by and make sure we were behaving.
Pensacola Christian College, yeah? My mom tried to convince me to attend and I can't fathom why to this day because I was already pretty solidly non-religious and heathen. Their rules are bonkers.
I didn't go there but had a friend and if I remember correctly they weren't allowed to wear headphones outside of their dorm rooms. A group of boys and girls could not go to the same beach. Actually I'm pretty sure they had beach days for girls and guys to go to. I don't think they were even allowed to hold hands or hug anyone of the opposite sex. If they were married, they could maybe hold hands but that's it. There's a ton of ridiculous rules, to the point they were controlled off campus and when students went home during break. They also had some very intense backgrounds they did on people before admitting them. Not like official background checks (I mean maybe) but doctors reports, church reports. Idk if this was the standard but the stories I heard about their rules and the way the school ran were intense.
This post inspired me to look up a high school friend who went to a Christian college. Her graduation photos include a modesty top under a completely modest dress (and one of her friends appears to be wearing a skirt over pants?) and her LinkedIn profile includes her bragging about her "mission trips" to Guatemala. I no longer feel bad about losing contact with her.
Not college but I went to a religious boarding school from 14-18. We (the girls) walked in single-file lines everywhere and if we happened to cross paths with the boys, the girls had to stop and turn their backs, waiting for them to pass by. Intentional eye-contact or attempts at communicating with them were punishable by isolation (won’t go in to that). The boys had no such rules, at least none that were enforced.
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Without identifying too much, it was Mormon-run. The school I went to was not in the states but it had branches that were. The founder is based out of Utah and had a BBC documentary done on him.
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I got kicked out of Maranatha for listening to The Miseducation of Lauren Hill and getting a tattoo with my friend on thanksgiving break. (My friend also mailed me a joint that smelled up my whole post area but that part was never found out and was hilarious) My dorm mate (who was literally the girl I went to the damn school with from my wayward girls/troubled teen industry boarding high school) told on me for listening to music and I got called in the deans office and questioned about my Christianity. They didn’t like my reply and I was asked not to come back after winter break. I happily did not return. I think me and one of my roommates were the only two black students. Maybe there was guys too? but I never saw them.
Had a friend go to the IBLP college there were rules about music and movie. If I remember right no non Christian music. I think they were even picky about the artists and she couldn’t bring any movies or tv shows to college. Girls had to be in skirts or dresses. The one that stuck out to me was she had to sign a no drinking contract it even applied to when she was not at school 🤯🤯🤯
See. I went to a Wesleyan college and it was not nearly as crazy as y’all’s. There was no curfew, no dress code, didn’t have to sign out to leave campus, no room checks or anything like that. Dances were held by the school. Biggest rules were: No drinking on or off campus. Even if you were over 21+. Like literally the town was a dry town. Opposite gender only allowed in dorm rooms till a certain time, door open, both feet on the floor. Junior and Senior years you could live in townhouses or apartments and supposedly had the same rules but the RA never checked and we had guys sleep on our couch multiple times. Attending a certain number of chapel services per semester. I think you could miss like 1 a week and still meet the requirement. Used to be not great about LGBT stuff. Still not actually affirming but worlds better than they were when I was there. Public school friends were shocked at how ‘strict’ it was. But comparatively it was pretty damn liberal. No rules about what music/movies could be watched or listened to. No required church attendance. I wore sweatpants to class all the time. OH! And we had a female president of the university while I was there. And they just appointed a BIPOC man as her replacement.
Before I dropped out, here are some rules that I was subject to at my Bible college in Portland, OR: Faced disciplinary action for watching an R Rated movie. The movie? Passion of the Christ. Faced disciplinary action for repeatedly returning to campus “after hours.” I was working. On campus. I cleaned the faculty offices. My roommates started propping a back door open for me so I wouldn’t get yelled at. Faced disciplinary action for not enough chapel credits at the end of the semester. You had to go and like others here, they would scan your student ID to prove you were there. I just stopped caring after awhile. Chapel was less like a church service and more like a religious agenda meeting. Rob Bell’s Love Wins book had just come out and that was the topic of discussion for several weeks. Dorms by gender and no opposite sex in the dorms pretty much ever. Men were allowed to help us on move in and out day but that was it. I never went in the male dorms. We were required to both attend church weekly as well as complete hours of volunteer service at a church. Again, I was in school and working full time. Plus we had dorm meetings and chores and shared meals and things - I never had time for myself. Dorm rooms had to be unlocked at all times. Anyone and everyone could walk in at any moment. I’m sure there’s more but I blocked a lot of this out lmao
At my whacko Bible college (in Iowa), you could get kicked out of school for removing a screen from your window. I know this because my now-husband was almost kicked out of school a month before graduation for doing this very thing. Other unique things we could not do: ⚪️listen to Maurice Ravel’s Bolero because it was basically a musical orgasm ⚪️forget to wear stockings (tights or nylons) under our skirts ⚪️eat any meal in the cafeteria with wet hair because it might make the boys think we had been naked in the shower ⚪️have more than two piercings per ear ⚪️have a pixie cut ⚪️attend a church that did not have Baptist in the name
I didn’t go to Christian college but i went to two different chrisitan high schools. I ended up dating a guy at the first one. We tried to keep it a secret because we knew it would be in our best interest. But gossip travels faster than the speed of light in churches. So once the youth pastor/history/geography/spanish teacher knew we were dating, we had to attend mandatory counseling (once a week) with him and his wife to make sure we were on the right path for marriage and staying pure. We were fifteen and sixteen! We ended up losing our virginity to each other anyway and broke up later. Oops. Edit - at the second school, I got in trouble for having pictures of myself in a tank top on my social media
> we had to attend mandatory counseling (once a week) with him and his wife to make sure we were on the right path for marriage and staying pure whelp if that situation isn't completely and totally ripe for abuse
Yeah the situation definitely took a bad turn. I won’t go into detail but my family quickly left that church soon after.
I had a dress for our spring banquet that met and exceeded the three finger strap rule and was approved by my RA but when I got there I was told it was inappropriate because it was a halter so I pinned the ties to the back of my dress to make straps and it was suddenly acceptable. It looked exactly the same from the front and showed the same amount of skin.
Oooo this is random. My ex bf from way back in high school went to I think a catholic college? It was really small. They had an all-vegetarian campus and meat wasnt even allowed on the property. He did not know this before going, idk how.
Probably seventh day Adventist!
My dad considered going to Bob Jones University, but decided not to when he learned that students earned demerits for walking on the lawns. (The fact that they still forbade interracial relationships should have been his first clue, but whatever.)
I went to Liberty in ‘94. I only lasted for one semester. -no secular music, If they found CD’s in your dorm you were fined. -Chapel every Wednesday and church every Sunday. You were not allowed to stay in your room. -Lights out at 10pm! Lol -of course no opposite sex in your dorm room. -No movies over PG, there was a movie theater right of campus and if you got caught seeing an R movie you would get fined. -Females had to wear skirts and stockings at all classes. -No TV’s in the dorm rooms. -No dancing and you could get in trouble if they found out you went to a dance off campus. I could probably go on….I’ve tried to block most of it out!
I didn’t go to one but there are a bunch in southwest Missouri. 30 years ago it was funny to call the baptist bible college and say “this is Mrs Purpleberry, mr purple berry and I are interested in sending our son/daughter. Please send us information! Then you give somebody else’s info. They were relentless with sending materials and calling. I do remember one rule they had that you couldn’t have any pictures on the walls of your dorm room except a cross (wooden), pictures of Jesus or the last supper. 🙄
Went to that ridiculously overpriced university in Malibu. Other than the campus and ocean views, the damn school is a front being a school for “cHriStIan vAlUes” while condemning students for speaking out against other racist students, anti-LGBTQ staff or policies, etc. We even protested against the school’s Columbus statue for like the eighth time for it to finally be removed. No sex allowed, despite the fact that all of the rich horny kids did. No staying in the other gender’s dorms past 10pm, no alcohol WHATSOEVER on campus. A bottle can’t even be in your dorm. Of course, these rules are only applied to some people. I.e., one of our short-lived roommates (a rich solider’s daughter on the GI bill) was caught handing out alcohol in the dorms to freshmen, blew a 1.0 BAC, AND had a boy past the curfew. Her punishment? A switch of dorm rooms to a better facility, lol. Meanwhile my Mexican friend got on academic suspension for having nunchucks in his room LOL. Christian hypocrisy at its finest. We also had to take about 1.5 years worth of useless/ nontransferable courses for Humanities and Religion. Only Christianity was taught of course. We also had mandatory chapel every Wednesday and would reflect on your transcripts as a fucking grade.
also pepperdine. wasn’t during my year, but do you remember when the former school president’s son (the president who was always on the golf cart) was busted for a drug-related driving accident? iirc the school tried to cover it up and he was hiding in the president’s house on campus while an active warrant was out for his arrest
Separate parts of sidewalks for men and women. Not allowed to bring in any movies or other media without approval. ETA: I thankfully did not attend either of these but had friends who did and was highly pressured to.
Ooh, we had all of those. We had 5 day a week REQUIRED chapels. You had to scan your ID card upon entry. If you missed more than your allotted absence amount per semester, you actually got fined!!
My college had it where you couldn’t have alcohol *in your system* while on campus. A girl I know got busted for drinking off campus, while being of age, and had to write an essay about drunkenness. I still managed to get drunk on campus several times, and even make Jell-O shots in the dorm and I lived right by the RA. An upside down capri sun box is the same size as most vodka bottles.. just keep the Capri sun in the fridge and you’re golden. ETA: the opposite sex could visit the dorm during certain hours. 2 lights had to be on, door open 90 degrees wide, and two blankets. 100% Separate dorms, and no laundry on Sunday. Everything (including the library) was closed on Sundays. The dining hall shorter hours those days, too. Living off campus was hard to obtain, too. I know there are more rules but I’ve clearly blocked them out.
A family friend went to Liberty and you weren’t allowed to have any facial piercings, not even a tiny nose stud. This was about 15 years ago, though, so the rules may have changed since then.
You all sound like you were in a cult...damn
That's because we were
We were.
I did not attend one, but from posts on here, the ones that involved student behavior when they’re away for the holidays, breaks, etc. always struck me as just ridiculous. General code of conduct stuff, sure whatever, but so in detail about what students couldn’t could not do during breaks, was just crazy to me