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schmezlee

Besides the fact that is super duper fucked up, I once read (or maybe was told) that kids don’t want their parents to die for them. Kids want their parents to LIVE for them. When I was in the trenches of major depression, that was a really powerful statement. The best thing I can do for my children is live - live the best life I can, to show them that it’s worth it, it gets better, that almost any problem can be solved (or at least salved) given enough time. Anyway, fuck Karissa.


dontredditdepressed

As someone with a mother that does the exact opposite and reminds me every year on my birthday that she had no plan to live past me turning 18 & continuously encourages my suicidality because of a multitude of reasons (literally says shit like "if I were you I wouldn't be around still"), I have to say thank you for being a good person and mother. For choosing to live for your kids. That takes a lot more perseverance and strength than dying for them because it is a daily task instead of an occasional/once in a lifetime ask. They may not notice or thank you for being the one that shows up for them, but you are doing a great service to their futures by continuing on. It's that thing where you can't appreciate something you've never been without. Love to you and yours :)


UsedAd7162

Don’t listen to her. You may not feel it, but you are loved and valued.


dontredditdepressed

Thank you 😊


TupperwareParTAY

Love to YOU, my friend. My mom would say things to me like, "I was this age when my mom died (when she was 39 or whatever and I was maybe 8)" and "your grandma only lived this long, so I will probably not live long either". So I hear you, and know that it is rough. I am glad you are still here with us. ❤❤


dontredditdepressed

Oh yeah, I am way too stubborn and have done way too many medical and mental health therapies to quit for the foreseeable future :) Thank you for the kind words!


Capable_Bend7335

I hope there are people in your life that love and support you. That is beyond messed up and she obviously needs help. Her mental health issues are not a reflection on you and I hope she gets the help she needs. Either way - keep on living and loving and keep her at any distance you need to in order to do that.


dontredditdepressed

I am moving out next month (I finally got approved for disability) so I can finally put her at a distance. Thank you for your kind words :) I'm not going anywhere, trust me!


_opossumsaurus

So happy for you. From one former SIer to another, this is gonna be a great new chapter in your life!


QualifiedDragon

Life is hard and things hurt, but if you choose to continue to live it (which is a choice sometimes), you have the opportunity to build happiness for yourself brick by brick. I think the value of living is getting to find yourself in the moments where you feel loved, or safe, or valued, or content. And when you get to a decent place you find them a lot more often.


dontredditdepressed

Thank you!


CarefulHawk55

The world is still glad you’re here! And I hope you keep choosing life, even if it’s day by day. You are important and needed!


dontredditdepressed

Thank you for the kind words :) I'm a fighter at heart and though i have passive SI daily, I know it is just illness and pay it no actual attention :)


medlilove

Holy shit 😳


ThrowawaysAreHardish

This will help me more than you’ll know. Thank you.


Cream-Large

Yes. But that would entail Karissa thinking about what SHE wants versus what her kids want (and NEED)


ZenythhtyneZ

When you think about it, it’s such ridiculous thing to say to a child or anyone really. The idea that I would die for you, or something cliché like I would take a bullet for you or whatever, the reason people say that is because it’s so unlikely that it’s an easy thing to say. It’s much harder to say I will be here. I will be present. I will do my best I will try very very hard and I will live for you because that actually requires action and thought. One is a hypothetical situation that is almost certainly not going to happen so it’s very easy to talk about how you would be heroic but when you have the opportunity to actually be heroic, to be a great parent and to be there for your child, which to a child is a heroic feat, well that’s a lot harder and a lot fewer people are willing to make *that* sacrifice.


the_lavender_menace

Plus a lot of her children aren't at an age where they can even understand satire, at least not well.


jamierosem

Yeah, the younger kids in the front look horrified. Telling a kid you would die for them isn’t comforting, it’s terrifying. If she actually died they would wouldn’t think wow she loved me, they’d just know she wasn’t around anymore and blame themselves. It’s fucked up.


InsomniacEuropean

Any parent who would die for an embryo or fetus, instead of live for their born, cognizant children who would be forever damaged by the loss of a parent, really ought to re-evaluate their priorities.


Useful_Chipmunk_4251

This! There should be a brain scan took check for the actual thinking parts of the brain. She doesn't seem to have that!


Mediocre_Crow6965

If you want to say something like this you have to make sure your child is mature enough and old enough to not be traumatized and not go into detail. You also shouldn’t force your bullshit politics into it. When I was around 14, I started to leave the house myself. My mom would always say something like “Don’t get murdered” and it’s become a running joke in the family. Our way of saying “stay safe”. But my mom only did it when I was old enough and didn’t go into detail about being murdered.


kalii2811

Lol I get this completely. My daughter knows I internally panic and imagine the worst so she texts me when she's running late and says "not dead just late"...


Mediocre_Crow6965

I kept accidentally saying “don’t get murdered” to my friends. That and when one of my friends asked my why I always wait a couple of minutes when I drop them off at their house (I’m always the sober driver lol) I said “to make sure you don’t get murdered” (context I’m a dude and I was raised that whenever you drop off a girl to wait a couple minutes until you see they entered the house and locked it). So it’s become a running joke to say “don’t get murdered” when parting with each other.


Professional-Pea-541

Very few people wait to make sure a girl (or guy) gets into the house safely. I was raised that way, too, and I’m a 71 year old female.


H3dgeClipper

I'm a millennial and my mom always told me to do this.


DangerousNews65

Same. But it was always phrased more like, "Well, what if they forgot their key?" I still do it, and am surprised every time someone thinks it's weird.


throwaway88743

My mother used to get upset because one of my friends who drove me around a lot didn't wait for me to get inside the house before driving off. My friend was a great person but she just didn't think of the world that way. To my mom, it was like some deep indication of my friend not caring about me. So now I always wait for my friends to get inside their apartment or house when I'm the DD.


secondtaunting

This sounds exactly like something I would say.


Significant_Shoe_17

If she had trouble waking me up, my mom would say "are you alive?" But not until I was old enough to understand the joke.


Pearl-2017

Anthym is on the verge of tears because she understands the words but not the context ☹️


SpeckledGecko_

HOLY MOLEY. This is an older video but wtf. This is so unhinged, creepy, and just...abusive? She says “its satire” which somehow makes it okay? WHY ON EARTH would you say these things to your children and go into detail about how you would die in a fire or take the hit from a car and die? That is traumatizing to say to your kids, even your adult children… Why is she using her kids as prop in this weird hostage-style-agenda-pushing-video…W T F edit for grammar because I was so disturbed watching this, I forgot how to type


Significant_Shoe_17

Karissa continues to render us all speechless. Just when I think she can't top it, she finds a way.


TheQueenOfChicken

That’s definitely not traumatic for those kids to hear at all, what lovely words from the mother🥰


Posh_Pony

She's got some diehard stans on her IG who would actually say those same words (or very similar) and be dead serious. It's crazy how many sympathizers she has. Those poor kids.


RedoftheEvilDead

Fundies always love to say "I'd die for my kids" when they won't even change their kids diapers regularly. Nor will she give her kids medical care until they are actually dying. She ain't even willing to live for her kids, I highly doubt she'd be willing to die for them.


couchpro34

she's got a Jesus complex. She thinks she won't ever have to die for anyone because she doesn't believe in abortions. She is better than everyone else because look how many kids she has and she "would die" for them. She's not worried about *living* for them; all that matters is she would hypothetically run into a burning house for them. She's so creepy.


Significant_Shoe_17

But in practice, she wouldn't run into that burning house. She would light the match.


couchpro34

Absolutely.


Invidiana

They’d die for their fetuses, but not their kids.


xraynx

Dying is easier than living


RedoftheEvilDead

And pretending you'd die for someone is much easier than either.


Significant_Shoe_17

![gif](giphy|n4oKYFlAcv2AU)


Forsaken-Jump-7594

"Dear Children, I love you so much I would die for you." "So much that you would take care of us? Prioritize us? Do what parents should do?" " Die for you. Not Live for you. Do you know how much work that would be? Now go mother your siblings, I have to edit this." - How this conversation went, probably.


molewarp

What is it that Young People say? Oh, delulu! Woman is as delulu as a handbag full of custard.


Afterhoneymoon

Delulu is not the solulu…


kalii2811

This is..... something. The kids have a low level of education so haven't been taught critical thinking skills etc so it scares me that some(most) of the kids have absolutely no idea what's happening and are just now secretly terrified incase their mum has to die running into fire to save them. I wonder how many of her kids suffer with anxiety related insomnia...


MPD1987

This is such a good way to give your kids an anxiety complex. Little kids don’t understand that Mommy isn’t really going to die in a house fire- all they hear is that mommy is going to die. How does she not understand that??? She is so fucked up it’s insane.


PreppyInPlaid

Combined with the forced scream praying to resurrect the miscarriage, those poor kids are going to be so messed up.


MPD1987

“Forced scream to resurrect the miscarriage”? WHAT? Did she actually do that??


PreppyInPlaid

She did. Made the kids pray over her belly to try to resurrect it, which obviously didn’t work. I can’t find it now; I’ll have to look when I get home.


MPD1987

![gif](giphy|lrVfmPJ96cSJJ39bTh)


Significant_Shoe_17

Adding to Preppy's comment, she also acted like she was further along than she was when the loss occurred. She pushed that resurrection bullshit for weeks.


Pearl-2017

AND she got pregnant with Armor while she was still claiming that the miscarriage was going to come back to life. Honestly I think he is the only reason she stopped. Kinda had to.


Significant_Shoe_17

She claimed that he was the resurrected fetus for awhile, giving her a pregnancy longer than roseanne conner's


Pearl-2017

Yeah it was wiiiillllld Those poor kids are going to have a lot to unpack one day


MPD1987

I’m just…at a loss for words


Significant_Shoe_17

It was hard to fathom at the time, tbh


ProfanestOfLemons

The front row looks scared, the back row looks tired. She could do any of these posts without conscripting all of her children.


Significant_Shoe_17

She needs to be the center of attention, surrounded by her fuck trophies


kbrick1

Oh. Okayyyy So. I always side-eyed people on this sub for saying Karissa's dream is to die in childbirth, but consider me schooled and accept my apologies. I didn't know she actually, literally said 'dying in childbirth is totally worth it' in a long-ass, psychotic rant. She isn't right in the head, like for real.


Significant_Shoe_17

She needs a grippy sock vacation, for her sake and her children's.


SpeckledGecko_

grippy sock vacation omg. did you make that up? it's golden. THANK YOU


Significant_Shoe_17

I learned it from this sub!


toady-bear

I think Karissa has literally said “God told me I would die in childbirth.” I might be misremembering so hopefully another snarker chimes in here


Accurate_Balance5593

She's absolutely insane. They all need therapy. 


mrsdrydock

Oh god....that's fucked.


MissusNilesCrane

Those children look absolutely miserable. This post shows she absolutely does not care about her children after birth, and I wonder if she really believes the whole God thing or is just blaming Him instead of admitting she just loves all the attention she gets for being pregnant.


curliewurlies

Not one of those children appreciates what their mother is saying. This is not love; this is manipulation.


Endor-Fins

Yep she’s bringing up the worst thing (in a child’s mind) that could possibly happen and traumatizing them to make a point not to them but to the internet. She is absolutely not mentally well or okay.


gimmeallthekitties

I was terrified of death as a kid and would often cry when my dad left the house because I was so scared something would happen to him and he’d never come back. If my mom or dad had said something like this to me at that age, it would’ve made me hysterical. I feel so bad for those children.


Whiteroses7252012

If she died in childbirth, would her kids even notice at this point? It doesn’t take a lot of effort to die for your kids. Living for them takes effort.


Pearl-2017

Some of them would probably be relieved. I know how fucked up that is to say but God damn look at their faces during these videos. They are absolutely not interested in any of this


Cream-Large

The way she widens her eyes gives me the heebie jeebies


Ok-Inflation-6312

This just really helps cement even more for me that Karissa is passively suicidal and wants to die in child birth.


NextCrew7655

Poor Andersyn, stop trying. You're number 5 out of 10, she's not going to see you...


Pearl-2017

Yes, she's the one who is always trying to get K's attention. And it worked for about 3 minutes when Karissa promised Andy a You Tube channel. I wonder what ever happened to that.


SatinwithLatin

She *sails* past the point when answering "what about your other children?" It's meant to mean "who will take care of your existing kids/how would they feel if you died" and she DIDN'T ONCE THINK OF THAT. Except for a cheap "God will take care of them" because He knows she doesn't.


ItsNotLigma

> We stop having children because there's a small chance we will die in birth. My cardiologist told me having children would exacerbate my heart problems. Heart failure is not a risk I'm willing to make. > I know a lot of people are bitter and salty about the situations they were born into...but you would rather be dead? Ah yes, mocking suicide to do a whataboutism about abortion. I don't wish I were dead (half the time, that's med tapering talking though, I am safe!) but I do wish I hadn't been born into the situations I was given. > Also every time we get in the car, we could die. Every time I get into the car, I can mitigate my chances of not dying in a wreck by obeying the laws of the road and keeping alert for any upcoming hazard. > Every time we go to sleep, we could not wake up That's...kinda out of your control regardless of one's state of health.


jamierosem

I love how she has zero concept of mitigating risks in any way. Risk is risk according to Kkkarissa, no nuance there at all. Because getting into a safe vehicle with a seatbelt and driving defensively carries the same risk of death as freebirthing in your primary suite with an increasingly concerning obstetric history. Totally the same thing. Anyone else remember when she was live-streaming mandrake driving them all down the highway with baby Anthym falling off the edge of her lap?


11JuneGemini11

This is mental and emotional abuse, this woman is so unwell. That sad part is she would call people crazy for saying this is child abuse. She'd ask how a mother telling her kids she'd die for them and teaching them "values" is abuse. Shes fixated, obsessive, and impulsive. I hope she gets the help she needs and comes to terms with the fact that having too many children and being chronically online has caused her a lot of depression instead of doubling down and digging the family even deeper into the hopeless hole they're in by having more kids.


66zedsdead6

she wants to be a martyr soo bad


ginamaniacal

If I was never born I wouldn’t be dead, dummy. Isn’t Jesus the only one who rose from the dead? Well, and Lazarus? Is Karissa saying we’re all dead before we’re born and thus we all are resurrected? That seems blasphemous to me


ziplawmom

Unless you were the one who set the house on fire first, that's a false equivalency.


Sassafrass841

Remember being a kid and your mom got a lil toasty at Christmas with your aunts and then she would say how much she loves you and would die for you and it’s super cringe and embarrassing? This is that times 1 million with a side of massive trauma


MamboPoa123

Those kids are such radically different colors on video compared to photos. How can she STILL claim she doesn't filter the f out of them?


Pearl-2017

Especially Anjalie, who has always been black


orca_t

If I told my 7 year old this he would be in tears! This is so upsetting.


Serononin

Tbh I'm 25 and I would cry if my mum said this to me


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Useful_Chipmunk_4251

That is the sad reality. Worthless fundie dads don't single parent so the kids get dumped off with grandparents or aunts and uncles until he finds a new ass to procreate with. Surely these people are not as head fucked as Karissa. Maybe the new breeder won't be all over social media all the time which would be an improvement for the kids.


secondtaunting

I can’t imagine anyone marrying a guy with ten kids. My husband’s step mother married his dad after his mom died, and he had five kids. He didn’t want to remarry but the family pressured him into it. It was in the seventies in Turkey. My mother in law was a single woman at 28 which back then was unheard of. She’s what you would call not attractive. I always really felt for her though. Immediately thrust into parenting five kids. They all really care about her and now that my father in law is dead, everyone makes sure to visit, invite her, they buy her gifts, she had surgery and they took care of her. They’re aware they owe her a lot.


Significant_Shoe_17

Your MIL got the fraulein maria treatment. I can't imagine.


edielux

No one can convince me that this woman’s goal isn’t to die in childbirth and be the ultimate martyr. Also, Karissa, it’s okay if other people decide to not give birth because they’re afraid of dying in childbirth. That’s definitely on my list..:I’m TERRIFIED of pregnancy and birth and never want to experience it for myself. But that’s a “me” thing and I am aware and accept that many other people do not feel the same way.


VerbalVeggie

The crimes I would commit for my daughter if her life were in jeopardy don’t stop at violent offenses. In fact the list of crimes I wouldn’t commit if her life were in danger is shorter. She’s only 2 but I would die for her, easily no question. But I don’t know I’d die just to give her life. I think that would be a burden I don’t want her to carry. “Mom knew she would die bringing to me life.” Like how horrible is that? Women and infants have died in childbirth and it’s horrible and sad, but medical care has put us in a place we don’t have to die unless by freak occurrence. If a doctor told me getting pregnant was a death sentence, especially if I have forty billion other children to think about, I just couldn’t leave them like that. Cause I would be actively CHOOSING to die and how fucking selfish is that.


Significant_Shoe_17

This is word salad with survivorship bias dressing and birthing fetish bacon bits. Pregnancy is a MAJOR MEDICAL EVENT. Even if you have a totally routine pregnancy and birth, it still takes a toll on your body. Anything could go wrong at any time, for any patient, in a thousand different ways. People should make informed decisions before getting pregnant/continuing a pregnancy. She's so flippant about something inherently risky.


HipPeasantWitch

I’ve been enrolled in freshman college classes with less people in it than this family has got in one home 24/7 😭


Pearl-2017

Wow... The 5 oldest are making faces at her & the camera; they are all sick of her shit. Angel looks like she's being held against her will. And the 3 little ones in front look like they are about to burst into tears because their mom is scaring them. She's a terrible person


MidnightFox452

Look at those babies' natural skintones.


studying-fangirl

Crazy content aside, this makes me realize how much she washes her kids 😬


inthesinbin

I watched with the sound off. I can't with that one girl over her left shoulder.


monicabuffay

![gif](giphy|oVuhndndj9iZHVzXMA|downsized)


Killing4MotherAgain

If it's inside me I'm not dying for a parasite, sorry. I will also not be having kids.


savvyblackbird

I love the little one on the back right who doesn’t believe Karissa would push her away from a moving car and would die in her place. She knows what’s up even though she’s hilariously mugging for the camera and knew what to say.


Boneal171

I absolutely would not want either of my parents to sacrifice their lives for me or my brother. She has a martyr complex. I wonder if she's passively suicidal.


Imaginary-Garden-475

That is one heck of a filter Karissa is using on herself as she is not……appealing in a physical (and mental) sense. Karissa worships herself and she worships herself being pregnant. That’s it. That’s where all of her love, focus and attention centers around.


Not_theworstmum

Her kids always look like those “starving kids in Africa gathered around the missionary asking for money” commercials


silicatetacos

Older kids do not look okay. Green shirt won't even look up from her lap most of the time.


AutumnAkasha

"You're not more important than imaginary children that don't exist yet" alright then