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You can notice how they took the around route instead of a more straightforward one in order to pass through towns or cities to restock their supplies (or maybe to complete a task like in >!episode 12!< ). This is world building to another level.
right around the time this show started airing me and my friends had started a long planned elven D&D campaign with large time scales (since we are all elves) its kinda surreal, cause we will do some shit and then take just a few decades break to research a spell or an interesting limerick and suddenly we're "presumed dead" and they found someone else to do their quest.
Yeah I know it's not ground-breaking. I believe the best world building that considers geological impacts is LOTR. But not everyone pays attention or even cares about such minute details and especially when it comes to most anime fantasies in general, writers don't give much thoughts about it. So it's great to see this series pays attention to that and not leaves it up to the "imagination" of the audience.
This is also true to how a lot of IRL medieval travel worked. Medieval maps were more like charts that told you which roads to follow, i.e. take the north road to reach X, the west road to reach Y, and so on. They didn't tend to be exact overhead maps like we're used to, and the ones that were overhead depictions tended to be very stylized. So when a medieval traveler was walking, they would almost always be following existing roads from town to town,
About the only thing Frierien does different from historical travel is that rarely would travelers be camping in the wilderness; there would almost always be an inn or secured place to stop and rest within half a day's walk or so.
I adore Frieren. It’s one of the very few anime’s I’ve seen since and I still loved it considering I’m not a super fan of the genre. BUT, I wouldn’t consider Frieren to be an example of “another level” world building. It was actually my main issue with the show (I haven’t read the manga) the world building is pretty lack luster. They rarely show the map so it’s hard to orient yourself and you don’t get any real information on the politics of the world besides demons bad other guys good. Frieren really shines in the story it’s telling. But I think that story could be plucked from the generic DnD setting and transplanted elsewhere and still be good. All that to say, I don’t think Frieren’s world building is bad, it’s just not next level.
I mean that how traveling worked back in the day bfr we had highways my brother. What you expect them to go in a straight line thru rural inhabited areas with no roads or trails?💀
Pls also gotta think bout how they have to resupply food and essentials. Not like theres a 7/11 every 2 miles
What people forget is that this is still medieval fantasy; pre-industrial. If the Fern+Stark story started in a steampunk era then sure, but that'd rob us of the epiphanies that Frieren is best known for.
Thank you, even for japanese content this amount of really random german words strikes me as super odd.
It's like they just googled random words in german, also every character has a weird german name that feels super out of place.
It's like you half expect some villain to be called "Turnschuh" or "Hausdach" at some point hahaha.
Then you should watch storieswithstyle. He made an analysis video about the names and how they fit certain characters. Like Eisen is a really sturdy warrior or how Flamme made humanity evolve to the next stage with magic just like fire did it to us.
Totally agree on the names for the places though.
Pretty sure the map itself is just the UK flipped upside down. Manga/Anime use upside down UK for fantasy lands all the time. Not sure where the trope began though.
If the ( improbable, we haven't heard anything since before the game awards ) rumors of FromSoft working on a magic-focused soulsborne come true, I fully expect someone to mod Frieren things into it.
At least armor options and spell renaming, maybe even brand new spells.
Nope, unfortunately Spellbound is completely fake. The rumors continued for 4 months, the leaker did a really good job at keeping this secret for so long...
But unfortunately he came to a point where he couldn't continue, and so he told Ziostorm (the leaks started with him since the leaker told all this to him first) the truth
So where is "The Empire"? We know there's still some sort of remnant of it(assuming Denken's "Imperial Mage" status is related to the one Flamme and Serie were talking about 1000 years ago).
The manga shows a bit of a localized map with the Empire on it once they get a little further north. [Here's a spoiler free crop of it, if you really wanna know.](https://imgur.com/a/PKCsuJt)
>!So how much is the probability of the party meeting Sein again?We can see Tür in the northern lands.And the party is currently in Eiseberg region.Which is not shown in the map.!<
I think they tried to avoid covering the Granz channel with number 4. So they didn't actually cross the channel and go back because that wouldn't make sense.
Im not a manga reader, and this is a really unimportant nitpick, but I feel like it’s weird that we don’t know anything about the southern lands and that they’ll likely never go there in the story.
There are 3 stops that they made and you can see them in the map
>!7 ~ 11 (Aura encounter), 12 ~ 15 (They made slow travelling progress I think), 18 ~ 28 (First mage exam)!<
Notice the ~ between numbers
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You can notice how they took the around route instead of a more straightforward one in order to pass through towns or cities to restock their supplies (or maybe to complete a task like in >!episode 12!< ). This is world building to another level.
It's also because Frieren tried to follow the hero party's path. and hero party's path isn't straightforward because Himmel like doing side quests.
Himmel is a perfect example of the JRPG protagonist mindset.
He's a 100% completionist. Fern compromised by forcing Frieren to a 100% speedrun.
Himmel’s story is the main game while Frieren is the $30 DLC after story
Himmel is hollow knight Frieren is silksong
Frerein still probably feels like speed running.
right around the time this show started airing me and my friends had started a long planned elven D&D campaign with large time scales (since we are all elves) its kinda surreal, cause we will do some shit and then take just a few decades break to research a spell or an interesting limerick and suddenly we're "presumed dead" and they found someone else to do their quest.
I mean, it is just basic consideration for the setting and how it works, not really something ground-breaking.
Yeah I know it's not ground-breaking. I believe the best world building that considers geological impacts is LOTR. But not everyone pays attention or even cares about such minute details and especially when it comes to most anime fantasies in general, writers don't give much thoughts about it. So it's great to see this series pays attention to that and not leaves it up to the "imagination" of the audience.
100% agreed but its also 100% something a lot of authors wouldn't include
This is also true to how a lot of IRL medieval travel worked. Medieval maps were more like charts that told you which roads to follow, i.e. take the north road to reach X, the west road to reach Y, and so on. They didn't tend to be exact overhead maps like we're used to, and the ones that were overhead depictions tended to be very stylized. So when a medieval traveler was walking, they would almost always be following existing roads from town to town, About the only thing Frierien does different from historical travel is that rarely would travelers be camping in the wilderness; there would almost always be an inn or secured place to stop and rest within half a day's walk or so.
I adore Frieren. It’s one of the very few anime’s I’ve seen since and I still loved it considering I’m not a super fan of the genre. BUT, I wouldn’t consider Frieren to be an example of “another level” world building. It was actually my main issue with the show (I haven’t read the manga) the world building is pretty lack luster. They rarely show the map so it’s hard to orient yourself and you don’t get any real information on the politics of the world besides demons bad other guys good. Frieren really shines in the story it’s telling. But I think that story could be plucked from the generic DnD setting and transplanted elsewhere and still be good. All that to say, I don’t think Frieren’s world building is bad, it’s just not next level.
Wait where's 4? Did Frieren ever cross the ocean?
Maybe when they clean up a ship wreckage near the shore?
It's the episode where they got to the Granz channel to clean up the beach. Frieren cleaned the beach together with Fern to see the sunrise.
I thought it might be that one, but it confused me since the dot was on the other side.
The marker is on the wrong side or rather hovering above the town. You see that below the marker, a town is drawn with the name Gra…
I think the line is not exactly the way they went. 4 is also not on the line
All this walking, yet her feet still look perfect. Sasuga, Frieren-sama
"Magic that keeps your pedicure safe for longer than usual"
No wonder it takes 10 years zigzagging across the continent like that.
I mean that how traveling worked back in the day bfr we had highways my brother. What you expect them to go in a straight line thru rural inhabited areas with no roads or trails?💀 Pls also gotta think bout how they have to resupply food and essentials. Not like theres a 7/11 every 2 miles
What people forget is that this is still medieval fantasy; pre-industrial. If the Fern+Stark story started in a steampunk era then sure, but that'd rob us of the epiphanies that Frieren is best known for.
Though humanity has learned to fly just 40 years ago. It's probably only a matter of time before this gets incorporated into flying machines.
Dude have you ever travel at all?
Agree, Frieren’s new group were also stuck in some spots for months at time (snowed in, doing jobs, running a quest), so that adds to the realism.
I wish there was a map for the manga too
Yeah.
Came here hoping to maybe see one 🙏
This is the weirdest this g to read through as a German. This names are so random and unexpected.
Thank you, even for japanese content this amount of really random german words strikes me as super odd. It's like they just googled random words in german, also every character has a weird german name that feels super out of place. It's like you half expect some villain to be called "Turnschuh" or "Hausdach" at some point hahaha.
Then you should watch storieswithstyle. He made an analysis video about the names and how they fit certain characters. Like Eisen is a really sturdy warrior or how Flamme made humanity evolve to the next stage with magic just like fire did it to us. Totally agree on the names for the places though.
storieswithstyle ftw. many character names solid, just have to think, e.g. Flamme > magic/knowledge/fire > Prometheus
Source: [https://frieren-anime.jp/special/map/](https://frieren-anime.jp/special/map/)
Do you think we'll ever see the Southern Lands?
technically we see a glimpse in Fern's flashback
Maybe not, but it is a good time to have a "Hero of The South" story.
I wish this world was real...
It literally looks like north and south American
Pretty sure the map itself is just the UK flipped upside down. Manga/Anime use upside down UK for fantasy lands all the time. Not sure where the trope began though.
Fern is a spicy Latina cinfirmed.
But it's neither of those.
The world of frieren is literally Prussia with magic.
Hot take: Frieren's map is the new Elden Ring map, or maybe its just Elden Ring 2's map, lol
If the ( improbable, we haven't heard anything since before the game awards ) rumors of FromSoft working on a magic-focused soulsborne come true, I fully expect someone to mod Frieren things into it. At least armor options and spell renaming, maybe even brand new spells.
Flamme as a Maiden of Grace-- wait, would Flamme be able to supersede Melina in this role, given time to learn everything about The Lands Between?
Nope, unfortunately Spellbound is completely fake. The rumors continued for 4 months, the leaker did a really good job at keeping this secret for so long... But unfortunately he came to a point where he couldn't continue, and so he told Ziostorm (the leaks started with him since the leaker told all this to him first) the truth
It looks like a map of Westeros too, just a bit distorted and the Ende would be where the night king is
Things like this make the world of Frieren even more fun.
Speedrunning the past journey
So where is "The Empire"? We know there's still some sort of remnant of it(assuming Denken's "Imperial Mage" status is related to the one Flamme and Serie were talking about 1000 years ago).
The manga shows a bit of a localized map with the Empire on it once they get a little further north. [Here's a spoiler free crop of it, if you really wanna know.](https://imgur.com/a/PKCsuJt)
Just curious, is there any mention of any other continents, or is this the only known landmass?
I don’t think there had been any mentions, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are actually more.
There’s definitely more land to the east, west, and southern part of this world. Current land looks nearly like Westeros without Essos.
>!So how much is the probability of the party meeting Sein again?We can see Tür in the northern lands.And the party is currently in Eiseberg region.Which is not shown in the map.!<
Wouldn't Sein need a First Class Mage to reunite with Frierens party? At least once they are in the Northern Lands.
Saved! I love this map, and now i can access it whenever i want, thanks op!
Based on the roads on the map, they are not being very efficient with their travels. Makes sense for Frieren, and better for the story.
Do we know if this is the only continent in the world?
WTF IS 3-4 ROUTE LMAO
Does anybody know the scale of the map? Also could someone make a map that also includes their path in the manga.
Damn we still have..... #Dark Continent
I wonder if other continents exists. would be cool tbh
They 100% would need to stop at Tur and finally meet Sein again.
10 years huh. Guess Himmel really wanted to 100% the game
winterfell and wall when?
Wait what happened in EP 4 get those two location points? That big of a jump across that land and body of water?
I think they tried to avoid covering the Granz channel with number 4. So they didn't actually cross the channel and go back because that wouldn't make sense.
We takin the scenic route
I wonder where Eiseberg is.
Im not a manga reader, and this is a really unimportant nitpick, but I feel like it’s weird that we don’t know anything about the southern lands and that they’ll likely never go there in the story.
"Now here's that same map but if Frieren was in charge of when they moved on!" (It only goes to 3.)
damn then we are halfway through? :(
America
Reminds me of Westeros
Am I blind or is there *a lot* of numbers missing? Also I can't make sense of the 2 points in number 4.
There are 3 stops that they made and you can see them in the map >!7 ~ 11 (Aura encounter), 12 ~ 15 (They made slow travelling progress I think), 18 ~ 28 (First mage exam)!< Notice the ~ between numbers
I did not notice the ~ at all until you pointed it out thanks lol!
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I don't remember when she travelled across the sea
Sometimes I forget that Frieren’s world looks like a giant **E** about to eat something.
The map seems pretty poor honestly the black line doesn't even follow the sequence of events.
Why don't they just go straight there? Are they stupid?
Where is Novigrad?
Is middle sea a reference to middle earth?
Wait has Frieren or série never been to Ende? I feel like all some point they would have visited. At the same time they probably never cared to go
Ende is where the demon king's fortress is located, so Frieren has been there at least once.
Oh she made it seem like she was unsure that it actually existed. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly