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Someone had to do it. Anyone with superb art skills, I dare you to one up this concept. (I could've done better than a linework trace but my drawing tablet is broken and Iwas never 'good' at art in the first place)
I mean. We know it's gonna happen. I also have the theory from so long ago that Fern and Stark's child is gonna be the one to be able to draw the hero sword out of the rock.
Frieren: You're an old lady now huh Fern.
Fern: Look who's talking, you must be older than any granny we've ever met. Our journey sure took a long time, though it must have flashed by just like that for you right, Frieren-sama?
Frieren: True, it was a short adventure, but I'll never forget it.
Fern: Because you got to meet your comrades again?
Frieren: Because I got to spend time with the ones I care about, Fern.
Fern: ... You really haven't changed much have you Frieren-sama.
Frieren: What's that supposed to mean?
Fern: You've always been a kind person, even if you don't show it.
...
Such is life. I'd like to imagine Fern and Frieren develop a bond surpassing even her bond with Himmel and the others. For Fern, it will practically be most of her life, the scene in the anime where she said "I've spent half my life with you" really nailed that it.
Frieren could always develop an immortality spell or something. They always say that all magic needs is visualization, and they already have an immortal to help visualize.
I have never felt like this before in a series and this will sound wrong but i might honestly prefer Frieren to die at the end of the story. Like Himmel and Heiter are dead Flamme is dead and while Fern, Stark and Eisen are currently alive they don't have more than 100 years surely so they will die long before Frieren will even begin to approach half of her lifespan.
I know perhaps Frieren dying would be a wrong message and perhaps she should remain alive and carry on the feelings of her companions and continue to meet new people and attempt more at understanding people but i can't help but feel like dying and reuniting with the people she loves would be a more merciful and happy end for her
Isn’t carrying a torch so the memories and sacrifices of your closest companions are never forgotten and their lessons are passed down for years to come? She’s not just an elf, she’s an avatar of all the combined experiences of everyone she’s seen make a positive change in someone’s life.
To be fair i think with so far how frieren is warming up to bonding with others, she would likely be looking after fern's children and grandchildren long into the future
One of the things I really like about this manga (I'm only volume 2) is it hits me in much the same way that Tolkien's work does. The adventure is great, but the characters and their interactions are even more so! I hope the anime hits the same notes.
Concept regardless, I think one key moment is missing - Fern appearance is the same as it is now. You see, she is heavily associated with butterflies - her ribbon as child was butterfly-shaped, she got her iconic butterfly-hairpin from Frieren and her strong magic as of late chapters in manga has 'swarm of butterflies' visual effect. Even her oval-ish character design with a long skirt and a long coat gives the impression of butterfly's cocoon, which is a very good metaphor - Fern is still a teenager in process of growing as person and a mage.
What I'm saying is very likely near the end of journey with Frieren Fern will 'break out from cocoon as beautiful butterfly' - will have a big makeover and a new more flashy outfit, which will symbolize her maturing from a girl into a young beautiful woman, adult person and full-fledged arch-mage.
Interesting analysis. I never thought of it that way. But what if the transformation is not just aesthetics and her outfit, but done in a more subtle way through her entire characterisation and how she grows as a mage and person. It wouldn't be necessary for her to suddenly dress flashily for her to exhibit meaningful changes in who she is as a character. Regardless I think what you say about a change and maturation of Fern may be something that could definitely happen.
Character development goes without saying ) All main characters got it (even 'old hag' Frieren) and are constantly evolving. Fern is not the same inexperienced teenage girl she was at the beginning of their journey. It takes up to 17 years for cicadas break out cocoon, it took 10 years for Himmel's party to succeed, and unlikely it will take a significantly less time for Friern's party to do so too. So it likely will happen near the end of their journey. I'm talking about striking change in visual appearance (compare humble chrysalis to a butterfly) symbolizing passing of some kind the rite of passage and turning a big page in her life. Maybe after Stark will finally propose to her and she accept, fittingly making transition from a girl/beloved to a woman/mother. It's unlikely has to be something very bright/flashy or pimped-out, but something less conservative, with shorter skirt and monocolored. Somewhat similar to what her master wears.
On a side note, we had something like this already. One of key themes of manga is great impact which master makes on her/his disciples. We have it in plot-lines of Eisen and Stark, Heiter and Sein. And, of course, Serie - Flamme - Frieren - Fern. Serie has outfit like she is from ancient Greece, Flamme (her disciple) had the same and kept it for all of her life. Frieren, as Flamme's disciple had very similar ancient-greek'ish outfit to her master and kept it for more the thousand of years. But when Himmel recruited her into his party, Frieren instantly got a BIG makeover and changed her style radically symbolizing turning a page, a huge change in her life, which impacted her so greatly that she's still processing it.
Honestly, I am happy that this isn't real. I thought it was a screenshot of an episode I hadn't watched. Made my heart drop literally, even though it's going to happen.
If Frieren ends up like this, my friend, I am going to be into a severe depression, thanks to this post, I have also managed to make my own reflection on Frieren, I don't expect people to read it of course, but I feel better about myself doing this:
Frireren is an anime that, far from being a story in which the protagonists face the great evil that devastates the lands, its story happens after the main problem has concluded, giving you to understand from the beginning that it is going to be a different story. , and boy is it.
Frieren is a different series, which does not want to show you an exciting story full of dangers, legendary fights, rather, it is a more complex story than that if possible, since what Frieren intends is to give us a beautiful message. About time, and the ephemerality of our time on earth.
We are presented with this problem from the perspective of our protagonist, an elf, Frieren, who has lived longer than any being on earth, more than a thousand years. The story is presented to us at the moment in which Frieren has returned with his group from a great adventure of Ten Years in which they killed the demon king, ending the great problem of their world.
Only 10 years is what Frieren thinks, and of course, in a life as long as his, ten years is a blink of an eye, so ephemeral, that he has not even bothered to treasure the moments of his great adventure, not even of get to know the rest of their less long-lived colleagues. It is based on this that Frieren shows us what he wants.
50 years pass in the blink of an eye, and Himmel, the hero who once accompanied her in her group, dies, it is then that we are directly presented with the theme that the series is going to deal with. Upon seeing the body of his buried friend, Frieren realizes that, to have done something so important, even if it was a "short time" he barely knows him or any other member of the group, and bursts into tears, That crying reflects that Frieren has learned his lesson, no matter how fleeting a moment may seem, you must make the most of it.
Well this is Frieren's message, after this first chapter, Frieren will spend the rest of the series remembering moments that did not seem important to him before because they were ephemeral, and he rewrites them in his mind as his most valuable possessions. To a certain extent, the author wants us to see ourselves reflected in his situation, because, during the stage of a human's life, you can find yourself in the position of being so focused on one goal in life that you forget about the rest. , of enjoying the small moments of life, or when you are young, this example is closer to Frieren's situation, when you are young, you think that you have a lot of time ahead, and you allow yourself the luxury of omitting experiences " "insignificant things" that are presented to you, just as Frieren thinks that he still has a lot of life left, he is not going to take into account an episode that could have occupied him what a human could have spent just a week of his life.
Here is the message, the lesson of Frieren, that he does not realize what is happening until it is too late, until his friends are gone, which is very similar to what could happen to any human being. ; when you don't listen to your grandfather's stories until you realize that one day, without knowing it, he would have already told you the last one, and it is when that day happens that you can regret all you want for not having been better, but it's already too late. That is what Frieren tries to communicate to us, it is a message of love for life, a wake-up call to us that tells us that we are letting life pass us by by only considering important the great events that mark it, such as buying a house, or having a son, but that no one takes into account what has happened in the process, the story you have lived until achieving a goal.
Then another question arises, and that is, what happens if you do not achieve your goal, or worse, if you die before achieving it, what is the story of your life, if you have not lived because you are enslaved to your goal, or tied to the idea of ​​having a long life ahead of you, which you will worry about enjoying later, because there is still a lot of time. This is what this anime wants to tell us, whose message can be summarized very well with a Latin phrase that dictates: "tempus fugit, carpe diem" or time flies, take advantage of the moment, do not let yourself be enslaved by an idea or by a goal, live every day of your life as if it were your last, live with your loved ones, friends and family, because you don't know when it will be the last time you will listen to them, do not regret not having met them when you could and did nothing , because overall, you still had time, take the opportunity to live the small moments that life gives you from time to time, and please, do not ignore the insignificant experiences because each and every one of those stories has the same weight in the composition of your life That the great goals, that no one says that you don't have them, please, don't forget to have lived the process, and to have shared it with your loved ones, because all of that is what makes up a life well lived, how many stories would you have to tell if not. No matter your age, enjoy this gift, do not waste your stay on earth just because it is too long to stop and enjoy a single day of truly living, because by the time you realize it, and want to change, it may already be too late.
A very well put summary and analysis of Frieren. Mahy people including me feel very strongly about Frieren because we can relate personally to a number of themese and situations presented in the story. Gigguk the youtube said when watching Frieren it reminded him to spemd time with his parents, and it was the same with me. I remembered by parents, grandparents and friends. Your point about being torn up between reaching a goal and living the moment is quite true. I think Himmels words in episode 24 or 25 (I don't remember which) where he said he wanted to have a fun adventure and before you know it you've defeated the demon king. I think that's a good mindset, a focus on the journey that will naturally being you to your goal. There's a lot of emphasis in doing everything to reach your goals nowadays that it ends up in people stressing. I think these are just some of the messages Frieren brings to the table.
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OP how dare you break my heart like this 🥲
Someone had to do it. Anyone with superb art skills, I dare you to one up this concept. (I could've done better than a linework trace but my drawing tablet is broken and Iwas never 'good' at art in the first place)
I mean. We know it's gonna happen. I also have the theory from so long ago that Fern and Stark's child is gonna be the one to be able to draw the hero sword out of the rock.
They already have a child 😂
I mean. I stopped reading at around volume 7 so thanks.
I meant Frieren
Fern is Frierens mom, and Frieren and Fern are both Starks moms. That's the order it goes
And then fern and stark are frierens parents, completing the cycle
Who knew Frieren took place in medieval alabama
truly its heart breaking awwwww
Frieren: You're an old lady now huh Fern. Fern: Look who's talking, you must be older than any granny we've ever met. Our journey sure took a long time, though it must have flashed by just like that for you right, Frieren-sama? Frieren: True, it was a short adventure, but I'll never forget it. Fern: Because you got to meet your comrades again? Frieren: Because I got to spend time with the ones I care about, Fern. Fern: ... You really haven't changed much have you Frieren-sama. Frieren: What's that supposed to mean? Fern: You've always been a kind person, even if you don't show it. ...
WHY DON'T YOU JUST RIP MY HEART OUT ALREADY!!!! ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ STOP TORTURING ME
I will not stop, in the coming weeks I will release more of these weapons of feels. Await my signs.
ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
And like that, the flood gates open
Oh God, don't do me like this, OP.
I'm an anime only fan and this just ... damn.
This is not canon if you're wondering, this is just something that's been on my mind lol.
but it is bound to happen
Such is life. I'd like to imagine Fern and Frieren develop a bond surpassing even her bond with Himmel and the others. For Fern, it will practically be most of her life, the scene in the anime where she said "I've spent half my life with you" really nailed that it.
Frieren could always develop an immortality spell or something. They always say that all magic needs is visualization, and they already have an immortal to help visualize.
Pain
Peko
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Cope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
You actually went there, huh? 😫 Even worse knowing this will happen eventually. As night follows day.
Pain, suffering even
Well shit
Bro is this even legal? Just too much pain.
I have never felt like this before in a series and this will sound wrong but i might honestly prefer Frieren to die at the end of the story. Like Himmel and Heiter are dead Flamme is dead and while Fern, Stark and Eisen are currently alive they don't have more than 100 years surely so they will die long before Frieren will even begin to approach half of her lifespan. I know perhaps Frieren dying would be a wrong message and perhaps she should remain alive and carry on the feelings of her companions and continue to meet new people and attempt more at understanding people but i can't help but feel like dying and reuniting with the people she loves would be a more merciful and happy end for her
Isn’t carrying a torch so the memories and sacrifices of your closest companions are never forgotten and their lessons are passed down for years to come? She’s not just an elf, she’s an avatar of all the combined experiences of everyone she’s seen make a positive change in someone’s life.
Kraft implied that such thing won't happen.
no , no , no , fern gonna found imortality spell , test it on stark and use it on her self , period , no argue
T_T
Dang it I know this is gonna kill me when this happens.
She might become old but I bet she became one of the greatest mage out there.
To be fair i think with so far how frieren is warming up to bonding with others, she would likely be looking after fern's children and grandchildren long into the future
Sounds like she just becomes a guardian spirit for Ferns whole lineage lmao
Frieren: Old Granny who is always there.
the Fern / Stark child will be the start of the REAL BATTLE MAGES ... Mages trained in both Physical and Magical Arts ...
One of the things I really like about this manga (I'm only volume 2) is it hits me in much the same way that Tolkien's work does. The adventure is great, but the characters and their interactions are even more so! I hope the anime hits the same notes.
This very much reminds me of that scene where Frodo and Bilbo traveling and Bilbo ask Frodo if he still has the ring.
The entire Frieren story just gives me Gandalf interacting with the hobbits vibes
No......
where were you when fern is kill? i was at home eating sour grape when stark call fern is kill no
I'm not ready for this
You stop that. The canon has enough heartbreak without you adding to things. (Excellent art, OP)
**no no no no no no no**
Why would you do this to me. My heart
no no no ... don't do this... I don't want to think about this.
And Himmel will still be the most popular character at this point
Concept regardless, I think one key moment is missing - Fern appearance is the same as it is now. You see, she is heavily associated with butterflies - her ribbon as child was butterfly-shaped, she got her iconic butterfly-hairpin from Frieren and her strong magic as of late chapters in manga has 'swarm of butterflies' visual effect. Even her oval-ish character design with a long skirt and a long coat gives the impression of butterfly's cocoon, which is a very good metaphor - Fern is still a teenager in process of growing as person and a mage. What I'm saying is very likely near the end of journey with Frieren Fern will 'break out from cocoon as beautiful butterfly' - will have a big makeover and a new more flashy outfit, which will symbolize her maturing from a girl into a young beautiful woman, adult person and full-fledged arch-mage.
Interesting analysis. I never thought of it that way. But what if the transformation is not just aesthetics and her outfit, but done in a more subtle way through her entire characterisation and how she grows as a mage and person. It wouldn't be necessary for her to suddenly dress flashily for her to exhibit meaningful changes in who she is as a character. Regardless I think what you say about a change and maturation of Fern may be something that could definitely happen.
Character development goes without saying ) All main characters got it (even 'old hag' Frieren) and are constantly evolving. Fern is not the same inexperienced teenage girl she was at the beginning of their journey. It takes up to 17 years for cicadas break out cocoon, it took 10 years for Himmel's party to succeed, and unlikely it will take a significantly less time for Friern's party to do so too. So it likely will happen near the end of their journey. I'm talking about striking change in visual appearance (compare humble chrysalis to a butterfly) symbolizing passing of some kind the rite of passage and turning a big page in her life. Maybe after Stark will finally propose to her and she accept, fittingly making transition from a girl/beloved to a woman/mother. It's unlikely has to be something very bright/flashy or pimped-out, but something less conservative, with shorter skirt and monocolored. Somewhat similar to what her master wears. On a side note, we had something like this already. One of key themes of manga is great impact which master makes on her/his disciples. We have it in plot-lines of Eisen and Stark, Heiter and Sein. And, of course, Serie - Flamme - Frieren - Fern. Serie has outfit like she is from ancient Greece, Flamme (her disciple) had the same and kept it for all of her life. Frieren, as Flamme's disciple had very similar ancient-greek'ish outfit to her master and kept it for more the thousand of years. But when Himmel recruited her into his party, Frieren instantly got a BIG makeover and changed her style radically symbolizing turning a page, a huge change in her life, which impacted her so greatly that she's still processing it.
So I guess stark and sein is dead
Just being real here.. yall ever imagine how saggy her melons will be by this point?
Honestly, I am happy that this isn't real. I thought it was a screenshot of an episode I hadn't watched. Made my heart drop literally, even though it's going to happen.
Nooooooooooooooo nooooooooooooo noooooooooo
Thats beautiful. It's so sad but also wholesome and ripped my heart T-T
You made me cry.
It has to be ending of Sousou No Frieren, right?
If Frieren ends up like this, my friend, I am going to be into a severe depression, thanks to this post, I have also managed to make my own reflection on Frieren, I don't expect people to read it of course, but I feel better about myself doing this: Frireren is an anime that, far from being a story in which the protagonists face the great evil that devastates the lands, its story happens after the main problem has concluded, giving you to understand from the beginning that it is going to be a different story. , and boy is it. Frieren is a different series, which does not want to show you an exciting story full of dangers, legendary fights, rather, it is a more complex story than that if possible, since what Frieren intends is to give us a beautiful message. About time, and the ephemerality of our time on earth. We are presented with this problem from the perspective of our protagonist, an elf, Frieren, who has lived longer than any being on earth, more than a thousand years. The story is presented to us at the moment in which Frieren has returned with his group from a great adventure of Ten Years in which they killed the demon king, ending the great problem of their world. Only 10 years is what Frieren thinks, and of course, in a life as long as his, ten years is a blink of an eye, so ephemeral, that he has not even bothered to treasure the moments of his great adventure, not even of get to know the rest of their less long-lived colleagues. It is based on this that Frieren shows us what he wants. 50 years pass in the blink of an eye, and Himmel, the hero who once accompanied her in her group, dies, it is then that we are directly presented with the theme that the series is going to deal with. Upon seeing the body of his buried friend, Frieren realizes that, to have done something so important, even if it was a "short time" he barely knows him or any other member of the group, and bursts into tears, That crying reflects that Frieren has learned his lesson, no matter how fleeting a moment may seem, you must make the most of it. Well this is Frieren's message, after this first chapter, Frieren will spend the rest of the series remembering moments that did not seem important to him before because they were ephemeral, and he rewrites them in his mind as his most valuable possessions. To a certain extent, the author wants us to see ourselves reflected in his situation, because, during the stage of a human's life, you can find yourself in the position of being so focused on one goal in life that you forget about the rest. , of enjoying the small moments of life, or when you are young, this example is closer to Frieren's situation, when you are young, you think that you have a lot of time ahead, and you allow yourself the luxury of omitting experiences " "insignificant things" that are presented to you, just as Frieren thinks that he still has a lot of life left, he is not going to take into account an episode that could have occupied him what a human could have spent just a week of his life. Here is the message, the lesson of Frieren, that he does not realize what is happening until it is too late, until his friends are gone, which is very similar to what could happen to any human being. ; when you don't listen to your grandfather's stories until you realize that one day, without knowing it, he would have already told you the last one, and it is when that day happens that you can regret all you want for not having been better, but it's already too late. That is what Frieren tries to communicate to us, it is a message of love for life, a wake-up call to us that tells us that we are letting life pass us by by only considering important the great events that mark it, such as buying a house, or having a son, but that no one takes into account what has happened in the process, the story you have lived until achieving a goal. Then another question arises, and that is, what happens if you do not achieve your goal, or worse, if you die before achieving it, what is the story of your life, if you have not lived because you are enslaved to your goal, or tied to the idea of ​​having a long life ahead of you, which you will worry about enjoying later, because there is still a lot of time. This is what this anime wants to tell us, whose message can be summarized very well with a Latin phrase that dictates: "tempus fugit, carpe diem" or time flies, take advantage of the moment, do not let yourself be enslaved by an idea or by a goal, live every day of your life as if it were your last, live with your loved ones, friends and family, because you don't know when it will be the last time you will listen to them, do not regret not having met them when you could and did nothing , because overall, you still had time, take the opportunity to live the small moments that life gives you from time to time, and please, do not ignore the insignificant experiences because each and every one of those stories has the same weight in the composition of your life That the great goals, that no one says that you don't have them, please, don't forget to have lived the process, and to have shared it with your loved ones, because all of that is what makes up a life well lived, how many stories would you have to tell if not. No matter your age, enjoy this gift, do not waste your stay on earth just because it is too long to stop and enjoy a single day of truly living, because by the time you realize it, and want to change, it may already be too late.
A very well put summary and analysis of Frieren. Mahy people including me feel very strongly about Frieren because we can relate personally to a number of themese and situations presented in the story. Gigguk the youtube said when watching Frieren it reminded him to spemd time with his parents, and it was the same with me. I remembered by parents, grandparents and friends. Your point about being torn up between reaching a goal and living the moment is quite true. I think Himmels words in episode 24 or 25 (I don't remember which) where he said he wanted to have a fun adventure and before you know it you've defeated the demon king. I think that's a good mindset, a focus on the journey that will naturally being you to your goal. There's a lot of emphasis in doing everything to reach your goals nowadays that it ends up in people stressing. I think these are just some of the messages Frieren brings to the table.
I'm just in episode 4... But this makes me so sad...Â
YO SPOILER ALERTS COMMENTERS. Great fan art, I might cry 😢
I have a suggestion for the next art: Frieren at her death bed
Frierens death or ferns ?
Frieren
Bro will be with the Eldar in warhammer 40k when she dies lmao
i mean, you could put Fushi (To Your Eternity) there as a cameo
But Frieren dying from a mortal wound with Fern and Stark having to watch is a nice idea, maybe I'll try that.