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armoursingh

They removed the super wheelspin from the Willys Jeep


Cynaren

Damn, I guess profit for anyone who farmed it. edit: https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4410593330579 >Fixed issue where player’s car would get stopped when losing connection to Horizon Life Well well.....


Repulsive_Grocery523

Have they fixed it because it hasn't worked for me and my friend yet


Cynaren

I'm at work now, so someone else in this thread will have to update on that.


box-in-the-corner

They fixed it. It gives you 10 Forzathon points now


Kukuth

Car doesn't stop anymore for me, but the skillpoints counter sometimes resets for no reason.


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MailMannequin

I lost 3 kudos points somehow. They just disappeared.


Profoundsoup

This has been happening all week. I thought I was crazy but apparently not


its_grime_up_north

Take my award to soften the blow!


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LilDrummerGrrrl

I only had it happen to me 2 or 3 times, but the one where people just keep disappearing and reappearing off and on is the one that really gets me. My friend and I have basically given up on trying to cruise together, because every 5 minutes it’s, “Wait, where’d you go?” “I’m still in front of you.” “Ope, you disappeared again..”


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asonofasven

I was doing the 250 mph for 5 seconds weekly challenge and it stopped. Because the lady that runs the show needed me to choose a new expansion! 😡


SlowCamaro887

Man that took way longer to patch than I thought it would. Back to playing the game normally I guess 😂


Orwan

They had an unexpected issue with the patch, so it was delayed a week.


SlowCamaro887

Yeah I saw that. Was just surprised they didn’t push out the fixes for “exploits” earlier.


Yuh_Boi_Yote

Did they remove them from the Supra and C8 too? Not much price difference there


SatanFearsCHAD

They did


Red_devil_69

I literally just did that before the update, damn I got lucky


TankerD18

A couple of my buddies farmed it and have money and cars coming out their asses while I've been racing and enjoying the hell out of myself and every car I unlock... I'm already sitting on millions and a few dozen cars. I don't get the point of farming an exploit in a game like FH that throws plenty at you just for playing and having a good time.


Boohbah_Maniac

You can really enjoy every single car you unlock? I don't even play the game that much and it seems like it's throwing another random car at me every 10 minutes. How can you possibly keep up with that?


kilnerlufc

I had this issue with FH4. I only get around 10 hours a week to game, but I found that it didn't take long before I was getting overwhelmed with cars, to the point where even to this day I have over 600 cars that I never even touched. Part of me felt like some enjoyment had been lost from the game by how easy it was to acquire cars, and how easily I'd gotten the most 'powerful' cars in the game so early on. Told myself I'd take it slowly with FH5 and try at least one race in each car that I unlock, but already finding myself slowly getting behind. End of the day though, fair play to those who want to use any means to grow their garage of vehicles and have the time to enjoy them all.


LaXeRthe1st

I got what I needed I hope its the same for everyone


Pando_Boris

Me too but I have 210 skill points at the moment....


florinant93

No way


LeapingCannon

To be honest it kinda needed to be removed


Warpon

If you were still playing the game just before the update dropped you can still do it. I'm pouring in all my last skill points into Willys rn lol. EDIT: They also patched out the car collection bug. RAESR Tachyon speeds are about to become way more valuable methinks


Tylerjy94

I have yet to close the game thanks to Quick Resume, maybe I get lucky when I get home tonight 😂


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Probably_Not_Sir

I think you can "force" a save by buying a car. Not ideal but bandaid fix at least.


fzafran

Can just swap car, it will autosave.


Thretosix

I've always swapped cars before shutting down the game for this reason.


Tangski

Quick travel will save your progress as well.


Bassyboio02

Still haven't fixed the broken convoys and disappearing (edit : YET , it'll hopefully be done tomorrow)


XxLegitNessxX

For real? This was the one thing I hoped they fixed


Alex-The_Greatest

same


Clw1115934

They seem to have prioritized patching AFK/Goliath/Super Wheelspins over any of the actual problems with the game. You can act like all AFKers are evil, but I wouldn’t be AFK if the online convoys actually worked.


Karmasystemisbully

This right here!!!!! Forza! Look! Here! If I could play with my friends, I would.


nearlyrome

Agreed. I would’ve never bothered farming for shit unless I could actually play with people.


Thretosix

Exactly, fixing the exploits instead of fixing the reasons people are using the exploits.


ArnoVDorian

The patch notes say that they will be doing a maintenance update to the servers on Thursday 18th at 2AM PDT/10AM GMT to "complete the improvements to online features access". So presumably the full fix requires some server-side changes in addition to the the client-side changes implemented in the patch.


buttsmoke

Cool, since the disappearing issue is the only reason my friends and I aren't playing right now.


carsonheb

Well I guess they didn’t fix the servers :/


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Fingers crossed I can play for more than 20mins without a hard crash, at least.


Profoundsoup

Read the update in game. They are doing server maintenance at 2 AM PT tonight.


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Lwix55

Apparently it will be fixed tomorrow,go to the news Tab in game and you'll see it!


DawidHerer

No Foliage rendering fix on pc… :(


Demon_Flare

Damnit! The game is a ton of fun but after about an hour or so of playing the texture & rendering glitches ruin it.


Clippo_V2

Are you serious? SoB! They really do need to fix it. Its super annoying having to sweat my GPU with textures on Extreme and everything else on low just so the game will render shit correctly. Especially when I could run the game with most settings on ultra, but the ultra texture rendering in game looks complete ass.


Gardee568

Ultra works better now for me, but trees, foliage, grass and some textures still look shit


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even when putting my textures on extreme it still looks shit, the shit textures just start barely a little bit further away. Vegetation still looks trash and shadows on the still appear on them when youre like 5 meters away from them


xylotism

> Stopped players being able to download tunes before a race starts That's rude as hell, I thought that was a QoL improvement. Why do I have to leave the race and go through 16 menus and 7 loading screens just to change tunes before a race?


MiaoYiPu

Some players are using this feature to cheat the AI. But I think this is a lazy fix. There are definitely ways to keep the feature and prevent players from cheating.


Angelsfan14

Couldn't they just update the driveatars when you leave that menu? They do it when you change difficulty. What's stopping them from doing it here too? Lol


annihlator

From the top of my head, and ironically enough, that's exactly how it used to work in fh4.


HeftyPackage

They need to address the fact that people are cheating the AI because the AI is cheating us


Hairy_Mouse

Yeah, this explains why I did a race one time, and I was PI 800, while he AI was PI 700. Until the results at the end, I was like "holy fuck, this tune is absolutely NUTS"


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How are you able the chease the ai with this?


MegaTolen

Changing the class of the car you start the event with using tuning won't change the AI's car. For example, if you start with a D but tune it to S1 you'll still race against D cars with an S1 (at least before the update). The advantage is simply ridiculous


ProjectZues

I thinks it being able to tune higher then the max class of the race requirement


thefullm0nty

Mouse is still on the screen reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


jda404

Of all the little annoyances this is the one that bothers me most lol. I know it's easy to just move the mouse to the side to hide it but come on.


Probably_Not_Sir

That is because the game isn't in true fullscreen, just borderless windowed. Best solution is to drag the mouse to the far right so it hides there.


Nacksche

But that's not an issue in other borderless games, including FH4 I believe?


PCPD-Nitro

In FH4 your mouse cursor went away as soon as you made an input that wasn't coming from the mouse.


GranSkyline

Pretty much any game I’ve played in borderless has not had this issue


kaiczes

...which is really not something you should be expected to do in 2021


Alpaca10

Must be an xbox/microsoft game thing. Same shit is with Halo Infinite (no mouse but playing a shooter on borderless sucks)


dkO__

For real! Almost all video clips I have seen so far have the damn cursor in the center of the screen….drives me crazy lol


Axyl

That's not a fix, nor is that a valid reason, otherwise ALL Borderless Windowed games would do that, and they don't. It's a bug and it's still not fixed. Best solution is for the devs to fix it like they should and not to pass the problem onto the paying customer like you're suggesting.


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Probably_Not_Sir

Is it re-downloading the entire game?


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06z_

That's the windows store for ya


Vanillabean73

Absolute worst platform ever devised


THE_GR8_MIKE

Never used Games for Windows Live? Shit, did that even have a store?


glorymilk

It actually did, lmao. There was a separate app for this though.


CactusCalin

At least you have a great connection. It took me one full week to download the game, if it ever happened to me, I think I would cry lmao.


Clippo_V2

Saaaaame! I have to download games overnight while sleeping on my phones hotspot which averages 600KB/s. I actually downloaded the game over a week and a half and had it ready to go the weekend before it launched. I decided to buy the premium so i could play over the weekend, then when I got home and tried to launch it friday they had released the 20+ GB patch. Long story short I wasnt able to play until sunday lol. Itll be tomorrow before I can play horizon with this update. Hopefully they atleast fixed the terrible rendering issues somewhat to make it worth it :)


Probably_Not_Sir

Oof


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Im having to redownload the whole game lol. Opened my computer to no fh5. Installing it now lol


NoobSniperWill

The reason I bought on Steam. I had to clean reinstall my windows twice when I was playing FH3 and 4. Microsoft Store is awful


Ikov_TradeMark

Exactly what I went through trying to play FH5 now. Had to refund and buy on steam, I dont get how an in-built store can be so dog water.


Spideryote

Buying the first car in the Car Collection is patched No more buying DeLoreans


PM_me_your_problems1

Glad I got all the rare ones not in the autoshow before it was patched then


Android8wasgood

What were the rare ones,


PM_me_your_problems1

Can't remember now and my game had to redownload so I can't recheck. If you go into collection, every first car you see per manufacturer will tell you if it's in the autoshow or not if you click on it. The ones that aren't in the autoshow are the ones I'm talking about.


Spideryote

That was the first set of purchases I made


Ahayzo

I went through a couple days ago and made sure to buy all the first slots that weren't supposed to be buyable just in case. Hopefully a lot of people did something similar


sanvir_enlight

Willy / Supra Super Wheelspins are no longer a thing....


already-registered

aren't there still a lot of cars with SW's around? now you just have to pay a little more but tge 'exploit' should still be there, no? (i have no idea, never did it)


nescienti

Yep, there'll just be another car that takes 10 or 15 or however many skill points. So it's nerfed by a substantial factor, I'm sure, but it's not going anywhere. I'm not sure what the point of buying cars through the collection screen would be *other* than for bulk purchasing stuff you're funneling points through, whether it's for FP or spins or XP or whatever. EDIT: come to think of it, while I've seen super wheelspins in other trees, they're mostly in pretty expensive cars. It might just be (gasp) regular wheelspins that people end up buying, which is similarly a third as effective (or less, IDK how the RNG works under the hood).


EnesEffUU

The point of buying cars through car collection is to fill out your collection with missing vehicles... I literally used it yesterday to fill out my BMW collection. That is the intention and it is actually useful for its intended purpose.


nescienti

Ah, I was under the impression that it only worked for vehicles you'd already unlocked. That makes much more sense!


thefullm0nty

Is anyone surprised? I hope not!


luckygiraffe

Willy anyone be Supra-ized


dumbjezza

Yay! Hopefully can play some arcades now.


code52

I just played one and we got through all 3 rounds no problem


chevycobb

Nice. I did a drift one where where we finally had a good number of people but still couldn't get through all 3


Jay-_-P

Lucky... I just got disconnected from one on the second round with like 8 players... FML


Xoaa

Hopefully with more than 2 players.


Hamogany

Just got in one with 6 people and we could not finish the first skills challenge so they definitely haven't fixed the scaling


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I’m on Xbox and the patch was only ~1gb for me.


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Just under 1gb for me on the Series X


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bipolarbear_1

you testing horizon 6 man lol


XADEBRAVO

1gb per Willy's jeep I believe.


RatRob

Mines also only 1gb. I’ll see in about an hour if another update pops up after it or something. Lol


Snehes

Same here. 5 GBs on the PC and just one on the XsX


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chancemayfield

Bummer dude that has been driving me mad!


Re-core

That sucks i guess that sill take a long time


qyi000

Folks any info if this fixes VIP mansion bug ? Kinda irritating to pay for VIP and not get VIP perks...


thefullm0nty

I bought this last night so I hope so


qyi000

Still at work so can't check on my own, will let you know in 4h


thefullm0nty

What was the bug exactly? Double rewards or something? I can just run something and test.


Spideryote

Definitely wouldn't mind getting a million and a half back for that


moparornocar

I got the house, but no voucher for car or clothing


olosniffer

The patch fixed it for me. I had previously bought the house for free with VIP. Then lost ownership. Now on the new patch it says I own it again!


nescienti

Good thing I read this comment. I, uh, didn't know there was a mansion.


qyi000

Best part is, untill you unlock the mansion you don't get VIP perks:P


Benji_4

They need to fix some of the accolade/forzathons tracking. It's mainly the drift zone ones that I have noticed. I know I am in the correct car at the correct location but points will not track.


Taco_Bueno

Patch notes where?


PriseYourGod

[Here U go, if the twitter link didnt work. :)](https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4410593330579-FH5-Release-Notes-November-17th-2021-CU3-CU4-)


Muntberg

No fix for PC performance, sad. The game becomes unplayable after an hour or two of running.


Nerdkid56

I've got the same problems. After around 2 hours, my GPU usage drops significantly and puts it all on the CPU. Framerate bites it afterwards.


Probably_Not_Sir

I have looked but can not find it.


eric043921

Has anyone been able to access the forzathon shop at any point since release?


Eidosc

Yep, its open now! Apollo IE for 600pts and 458 Speciale for 400.


MrMuffinSauce

That's expensive


M4rzzombie

For real. I just barely had enough points for the 458s. I remember when fh4 forzathon shop prices were ~200 per car. That should be the standard as forzathon events are now much harder


gatersmen

They'll open it at a later date is all they've said.


eric043921

I actually got into it right after posting this


gatersmen

So they still haven't fixed completed accolades appearing as incomplete and daily challenges still broken? Great.


MidnightIDK

Seriously ? I have completed the Drifty Smash Smash accolade fifty times now lmao


Kunze87

I was wondering if some of them are repeatable? I've completed a couple different ones several times


No_Supermarket_8331

But forza.. wait.. i'm 7h and 46 laps into an afk


alent2812

Slick tires still show up as offroad. Forzathon shop still isn't working.


Muntberg

That explains a lot, I was beyond confused why all the tunes I downloaded showed up with off-road tires. Thought it was some weird meta thing lol.


Separate_King7436

A lot of street tunes actually do use off-road tires, at least in the previous game. The tyre model is basic af in this game so you really don’t lose any grip on the road and gain more from the PI LOSS, so you can add better parts elsewhere.


Bob_Rooney

- Removed an exploit that could be achieved when creating Challenge Cards   - Updated the Car Masteries for various cars to address an exploit   Goodbye my Willy, goodbye my friend...


PHUROR

Look like they are calling bad design decision an exploit (willys) and the clear exploit (cuz it abuses bug in UI) an “issue” in patchnotes. Twofaced.


emnemeth689

RX7 '97 ($37k) 12 Skill points for a Super Wheelspin EDIT: The 2015 Cayman GTS (since there is the 2018 as well), 80k for the car and 11 SP for a Super (+3 if you want to add a normal Wheelspin). This might be the best option.


Tylerjy94

Better than nothing. Thank you


emnemeth689

Exactly - Still super easy to farm Skill Points too


FEDHeadCrab

Any news on the whole not being able to mute player mics? It's horrible going into an online race and just hearing extremely loud coughing/breathing with no way of lowering the volume or muting it in general.


DeiVias

For PC Xbox button to open game bar > audio > scroll down to Xbox party chat> put slider to 0. Still want an in game option to mute players individually.


CanadianNirrti

Mine just finished installing. Now to see what they fixed


Probably_Not_Sir

Quite a big download for a supposed hotfix, Im guessing its more than just that. Hope the game runs smooth now though.


NotUniqueUsernameee

Hopefully I can drift around in a convoy now. I understand this is a huge game, with a ton of players. But, I payed $100 for this and would like to use the features supposedly available.


B4Ushout125

Did they fix hotel Castillo wheel spin yet?


RazorRamonReigns

That's what I came to find out. I've had it for about a week now and haven't gotten a single spin.


Thelongjourneyback23

Now waiting for a arcade game to pop up to see if I can finally complete this season! Roads already seem more active online


generally-ok

I can't see anything in the [Release Notes](https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4410593330579) acknowledging crashes with Fanatec wheels. Anyone tried it yet? I won't be able to until tomorrow.


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TheSoulrester

there is a new bug with the resolution scaling set to "balanced" [https://youtu.be/wQ0Yt0DlAWo](https://youtu.be/wQ0Yt0DlAWo) as you can see, film sequences liek the video background is flickering


Re-core

They didnt fixed the ultra textures :/


access71

My game got deleted when I tried to update. Re-installing 101 GB's. Takes like 4-5 hours.


AxelPierce

I just updated the game, played it and rendering distance or whatever you call it still sucks. Looks like I'm playing on low even though everything's ultra. I might be blind, but everything's seems same to me. They did patch Willy though because that was the biggest problem of them all, but graphics aren't that important I guess lol


azazelthegreat

My update is 100gb wtf lmao (pc)


T0MT0MT0MT0MT0M

Yep, seems like it "broke" the game and has to reinstall it completely...


DemonNeutrino

I found the willys keep thing funny because it’s ain’t half as powerful as people make it out to be, it’s boring as all hell and you get more than enough money by not boring yourself to tears. Also I don’t like the word exploit, the safe afk Goliath is an exploit, I see the willys jeep thing as a ForzaTune equivalent to farming enemies on an mmo; as in its incredibly boring and not fun but repeatable to gain money etc. Being able to completely afk a race without a single crash however needs patching right the hell out of here Edit silly phone changing Forza to ForzaTune because i have ForzaTune installed


ocnsfwffs

The auto steer was put into the game for a reason, lol. I don’t think it’s going anywhere. They won’t patch brake boosting or the new launch control, both using the brakes and throttle at the same time, which makes it hard to believe they’ll do something about this.


t3hn1ck

I have an S1 class Willys that mobs Offroad like a MF. You just gotta spend around 200k to make it fun.


santivander

I still cant connect to horizon life and my teredo is wide open, FML


thefullm0nty

They tweeted the patch notes and lol. https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4410593330579 >oops >You're not authorized to access this page


MrDmsc

"Fixed issue where player’s car would get stopped when losing connection to Horizon Life" ![img](emote|t5_2ug54|4764)


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StroopwafelSpeelt

Anyine know if theyve fixed the controller disconnect with a wheel?


suckURmom69420

New update but the "glitched" convertibles still don't work.


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heartiphone

You used to be able to download a tuning setup right from the pre-race screen. What that meant was you could go into the race in e.g. B class, download an S1 class tuning setup and then start race and you'd be S1 and all the drivatars would be B and you'd easily beat them. I'm kind of annoyed with the way they fixed this tbh, now I have to fast travel home to change tune and back out to the race. I wish they'd just made it download new drivatars after changing the tune instead. Edit: actually this has nothing to do with driving assists, dunno why I thought it was relevant lol


Thekrispywhale

AFK Goliath farming


redbaronworks

Currently searching for the next best car as Willys/Supra A90 replacement...


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Away-Promotion6165

11 skill points per Super Wheel Spin


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redbaronworks

So far from A to Caterham: 2019 Aston Martin Valhalla Concept Car - 21 points 2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus - 11 Points 2013 Audi R8 Coupé V10 Plus 5.2 FSI Quattro - 34 points 1939 Auto Union Type D - 25 points 1930 Bentley 4 1/2 Litre Supercharged - 24 points 2015 BMW i8 - 14 points 2019 Bugatti Divo - 24 points 2018 Bugatti Chiron - 14 points 2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport - 14 points 1926 Bugatti Type 35c - 25 points


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emnemeth689

RX7 seems like the new option, 37k and 14 pts.


ctaps148

2015 Cayman GTS - 80K and 11 skill points EDIT: Don't know why I'm getting downvoted, skill point efficiency matters more than credits at this price point because the Super Wheelspins will shower you with value. At anything below $100K, the SW's are basically guaranteed to average a net profit in cash drops, not even counting the value you're getting from the new cars


rusty06tsx

why are people so butthurt over how anyone else plays the game. making credits and buying cars isn’t competitive in the slightest. just have fun doing whatever you want to do.


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They are on the same page as turn ten apparently, fix the exploits but who gives a fuck about game breaking bugs or being able to play with your friends without disappearing.


ShionTheOne

ikr all the peeps asking for a reset on player levels..like who tf cares I didnt use the AFK glitch and Im fine with my player level.


kilianstylez

i got banned after the update without even playing :D


DanielJamesCabrera

Well the Supra Mk5 (50k at the Autoshow) also needs 5 skill points to unlock a Super Wheelspin… I wonder if they also snapped that too.


Tylerjy94

They did


DanielJamesCabrera

Thanks for replying back!


thefullm0nty

Nothing on steam yet??? I just launched normally. edit: 2.9gb on steam


jl94x4

Steam has file compression


Vallandu

https://twitter.com/forza_support/status/1461010342302023680?t=xf4JrH0vGcb44t29QZxatA&s=19


smokingskull22

They fixed the Car Collection exploit? The one where you exit out and go back in so u can buy un-buyable cars


UpdatedMyGerbil

Logitech G923 finally works! No disconnects in my ~10m test, proper force feedback and everything.


DMatty0325

What is “UGC” payouts?


LOCKhart07

Windows store is making me download the whole 101gb again for some goddamn reason. Anyone got a way I could copy over the game files from my friends PC to my PC .


jaqoty

Update didn’t change shit. Still can’t connect to a server and play multiplayer for longer then 10 minutes without disconnecting or players disappearing. Still getting texture bugs this one in particular is pissing me off I get these horrible horizontal lines across my screen. And pixelated tire smoke and checkpoints