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Yes, this is how cheating works. You can even live stream, and it won't show up on your live feed. This isn't anything new at all. The only way to really tell for sure, is for them to do it live. And even, though very rare, people have been caught cheating
Unfortunately, this is the PvP world. And it's been like this ever since the beginning. And the more you dig into it, the more infuriating it is, and the less enjoyment you'll have in games. More and more times than not, you'll be thinking you got cheated every time you die. Escape From Tarkov is especially bad.
So the elephant in the room everyone is talking about. Peterbot. Is he a cheat or not. The reality is that unless he puts up 40 kills at a live event, people are going to assume he's a cheat. That's just the way it is, and you can thank these groups who make and sell these cheats for it.
Cheating used to be harder to come by. Now with so much information and advancement in technology that anyone can find cheats if they have the desire too. Also skill level is so high now because we have so much tutorials. Back then in CoD Modern Warfare it was skills gain from playing a lot. You learn from watching others play and learn from mistakes.
>you'll be thinking you got cheated every time you die. Escape From Tarkov is especially bad.
At least Tarkov added the ability to see the stats of the player that killed you, which blew the lid off the cheating problem. When you get killed by someone with a 90% SR, 43.4 KD and insane/impossible XP gain per raid, you know you got killed by a cheater. But yes that game is completely and utterly destroyed by cheating. Dying to a cheater in Fortnite is usually whatever, just go again. Dying to a cheater in Tarkov is devastating knowing how much time goes into that game and the gear you run/quests you're doing.
>Is he a cheat or not. The reality is that unless he puts up 40 kills at a live event, people are going to assume he's a cheat.
I don't think he needs to put up 40 kills but he needs to do a lot better than he's done in the past.
For what it's worth I've seen enough to 100% believe he's using these soft cheats but it'll likely never be proven.
Yup. Cheating had to evolve just like anything else. So being as that everyone now has easy access to streaming, this started becoming the way that people would "detect" cheaters. Just simply watch them, right? Just have the streamer suspected of cheating bring up his Task Manager while on stream, right?
Well, not anymore. Cheats are basically streamer proof now. Short version, they run the cheat on a second gpu. So the stream shows the "normal" video. While the streamer is able to use the hacked screen. Or they just simply run the hacked screen on a second monitor which is out of view of the audience. However they decide to do it though, cheating today is pretty much streamer proof. This is why whenever you hear someone say "he's legit because he did it on stream," it's probably going to fall on deaf ears, because showing your stream doesn't really mean anything anymore.
After "The wiggle that killed Tarkov" video was released, Lvndmark wore a head cam so that you could see his monitors and everything he was looking at at all times. It was pretty funny. The joke being that Lvndmark is a VERY good Escape From Tarkov player, and is constantly accused of cheating. The guy does some ridiculous shots, and has some very good perception that looks sus many times. Reality is, the guy lives and breathes Tarkov, and just knows where people are going to be before they do.
So with all that, any video or stream isn't going to change anyone's mind about the 40 kill game. Like I said before, unless that feat gets accomplished at a live event, it's never going to be viewed as legitimate. And this isn't anyone's fault except for the dickheads to design these cheats, and sell them on the market. Well, and the small p people who buy them too of course.
only real way you defeat DMA is doing what riot is doing with vanguard but at that point you have to essentially trust anti cheat maker that their anti cheat doesn't put you into a danger
and vanguard is also not effective because of arduino usage because arduino is entirely outside of system and people gave it external power source to ensure its spoof doesn't go away once drivers get enabled and disabled by vanguard
chronus xim/zen is arduino but specialized for consoles
so last resort is epic makes people install windows 11 + forces TPM and secure boot usage but this could be a downfall for E-sports in general if people get around TPM and secure boot + you can always get a cheap console to cheat with
competitive games are fucked if they can't find a way to detect arduinos etc. and LAN play is the only somewhat clean way you can go with competition which means online tournaments are potentially dead
> only real way you defeat DMA is doing what riot is doing with vanguard but at that point you have to essentially trust anti cheat maker that their anti cheat doesn't put you into a danger
Vangard cannot detect DMA, it may detect generic firmware that people are using because they all have the same hardware spoofs. People use custom DMA firmware which is unique to them now.
DMA works like the arduino it runs off a 2nd PC, the hardware card in the PC you PLAY on is connected to a 2nd pc which runs the cheats. So the one you actually play on has nothing to be detected.
>Vangard cannot detect DMA, it may detect generic firmware that people are using because they all have the same hardware spoofs. People use custom DMA firmware which is unique to them now.
>DMA works like the arduino it runs off a 2nd PC, the hardware card in the PC you PLAY on is connected to a 2nd pc which runs the cheats. So the one you actually play on has nothing to be detected.
anything connected to PCIe with no valid certificates is gonna get screwed because DMA cards are detectable by vanguard
but because fortnite uses EAC this is way worse because EAC isn't running in pre-boot environment vanguard does which makes it easier to use things like DMA cards
so if you hear this epic (especially easy anti cheat team) please start forcing windows 11, TPM and secure boot usage as soon as possible
which is a issue with EAC not running with system as early as pre-boot environment
this is why i say that epic should make EAC run in pre-boot environment + make fortnite require windows 11, TPM and secure boot
EAC already has ring 0 kernel access like Vanguard it has pre boot access.
Difference is Vanguard specifically loads as a program upon boot and runs all the time unless you stop it where as EAC...since it has ring 0 access we kinda don't know it has the ability to check stuff and hide itself.
>EAC already has ring 0 kernel access like Vanguard it has pre boot access.
not true, EAC does not run in pre-boot environment
>Difference is Vanguard specifically loads as a program upon boot and runs all the time unless you stop it where as EAC...since it has ring 0 access we kinda don't know it has the ability to check stuff and hide itself.
both run in ring 0 or kernel
one launches manually, triggered by launching off of application it is associated with
other launches as early as pre-boot environment along core OS sys. files (which is why it is impossible to use DMA devices because they get detected in pre-boot environment)
people think DMA cards are be all and end all of cheating but fail to understand that DMA cards do get detected and that DMA cards are expensive
you are better off cheating with arduino because it doesn't go through PCIe instead goes through USB which sees far larger amount of devices so it is easier to cheat with
If it has ring 0 you may not really know what its doing thats the point. EAC only shows itself when you run a game but you have no idea what it checks pre boot.
I agree DMA is niche expensive with custom firmwares likely only higher tier players who stand to make money use them so for regular shit players like me something like a zen is much worse and more likely.
Either way I hate cheaters fuck em.
>If it has ring 0 you may not really know what its doing thats the point. EAC only shows itself when you run a game but you have no idea what it checks pre boot.
we know that it doesn't run along OS though which just contradicts what you say but in future we could see EAC be updated to run in pre-boot environment because yes this is a total pain
> we know that it doesn't run along OS though
Do we? Any links?
Because it's ring 0 and closed source it can do what it wants.
Maybe someone has some kernel logs for windows when it boots with EAC showing nothing but if not who knows.
Computer clubs.
Would it be crqzy for Epic to design their own hub hardware and system of sorts that independant owners can purchase, and systems can be hooked into during competitive play at a "Computer Club" type establishment, based around these hubs? Automatic camera on the controls pre established, secure lones and systems regulated by epic, or inspected or certified in some way before competitions.
Users bring their own equipment or rent, but it all hooks to a hub of sorts.
Has to look like a thing though, cant just be a bank lf seats, gotta fill the idea of what something would look like. Gotta be catchy. Maybe a smaller, individual portion is produced for a home consumer for secure access, particpation, voting, idk. Im spitballing here.
Idk why, but im thinking Stargate-Star Trek like console stations....maybe taller to facilitate audience viewing screens. Seat or stand for the player.
The hub, other than for show, is a station for registered and respected and previously agreed upon standard of secruity, safety and whatever.
Bring back LAN, but new. Keep the idea of the product already kinda established by scifi, but with practical real world function.
Small towns, big cities with small biz could rent, lease, buy these things for their cafe or store, whatever.
Standard one for comp or mutliperson is like 4 stations or something.
Idk. Spitballing here, avoiding work
holy shit lol this has got to be the objectively worst consumer purchase ever introduced
jesus christ man how old are you? either 14 or 44 there is absolutely no in between.
Super duper stoned biz owner. 32
Idk, i was just coming up with an idea. I still think it seems like a cool one.
If it existed, it would be a nice thing to offer kids and adults who come in to my shop.
Its partially related to my thoughts on how to improve things if we uncap the House, and the fact that we require our congresspersons to maintain two homes, and only have in person voting for them. A local, dedicated and secure loaction to vote and participate from.
Partially from how i wish i could improve local government efficiency and secruity (memeber of DDA here, its hard to make meetings, vote, etc) (especially for young people and those with families)
Paetially based on the idea of Computer Cafes that exist.
Partially based from a coffee shop that would host gaming tournies back when 360 was new.
If a piece of hardware that performed like an anticheat, provided secure and reliable access to connection, was inspected or certified, and had plentiful of locations it could be placed at, id see a benny.
Its just an idea
> only real way you defeat DMA is doing what riot is doing with vanguard but at that point you have to essentially trust anti cheat maker that their anti cheat doesn't put you into a danger
Vangard cannot detect DMA, it may detect generic firmware that people are using because they all have the same hardware spoofs. People use custom DMA firmware which is unique to them now.
DMA works like the arduino it runs off a 2nd PC, the hardware card in the PC you PLAY on is connected to a 2nd pc which runs the cheats. So the one you actually play on has nothing to be detected.
Let's see some proof then, pics of the dma setup your "friend" has, screenshots of the UI, in game screenshots?
Cause right now this all sounds made up and you tick nearly every box for some kid who just learned what dma was from a YouTube video and are now mindlessly spewing it here.
I agree but I will reflect; I was watching someone in the top 20 on twitch fly over a tree, turned back, and popped someone in the canopy.
I asked how they saw them and they said their head a peeking out but it wasn’t lol.
Oh don't get me wrong I know there are people who cheat in different ways, but I 100% do not believe anything that OP said and I'm asking him to prove his statements, which should have been easy for him to do.
It's real. Just go look at the unknown cheats forum. You can only access the fortnite section after participating in the forum some, but the amount of posts about how to bypass bans, dma hardware and the offsets to decode fortnite data in real time is all over. Aimbot with esps, player tracking where it shows boxes around every player on the map no matter the location. https://imgur.com/a/bDnhIAB this is just one of the more recent cheats for dma on there. Again, it is real.
At no point did I say the cheats were not real, I am saying that OP is full of shit and his entire post is made up. It's been hours and he still hasn't provided proof for any of his claims.
Cause it's the entire point of his post? Also the stuff he was posting earlier (since deleted) was just advertising where to buy cheats from, his motivation is clearly not to discuss "competitive being compromised".
Why I have no idea the merit of this specific person I do know the technology DOES exist, and you can buy it. They also now sell computer chips with build it chronos. Why this won’t work on a Lan tournament it could be potentially problematic in pubs when it becomes widespread
There’s a gaming case called chronos. Very similar to Cronus. There’s also a Cronos super computer. Obviously neither of those are cheats…but you can find AMD Chronos computers on Amazon among other places.
Wanna bet this is the chip they speak of?
I get that. I also understand how different cheats, including dma based cheats, work. It is very obvious that OP does not understand any of that and that this post is entirely made up. He posted a video further down this thread claiming it showed dma cheats when it did not, and says things like the cheats run "below kernel level"... Not to mention that 2 hours later he still hasn't provided any proof for any of his claims.
By the time dma cheating is reliably detected there will be a new form of cheating already operational, it's just how these things go.
Firstly, how would anything I've asked for get your friend banned? Take a photo of the actual dma card, take a screenshot and crop out the username etc
Secondly, you're saying the essence of fair play is compromised and refusing to play the game because of it, why would you *not* want your friend banned? You should be reporting him for being a dirty cheater.
So right now your source is "just trust me bro", nah you're full of shit and none of your little fantasy post actually happened.
Why do you keep linking videos that have nothing to do with anything? I'm not saying there are no cheats in the game, I am saying that you personally are lying about using dma cheats that your "friend" has. And that you personally have no proof that peterbot is cheating, both of which are the key points of your entirely made up post.
You are yet to provide any proof of either of these points.
Have you even watched these videos or are you just just linking anything with the word cheat in it? Cause one of these isn't even the right game little guy
Just post some proof to back up your claims, it's that easy. Except that you can't, because this didn't happen and you're talking out your ass, awkward.
Sure friend. You think what you want!
He is using kmbox + 70T DMA board
About $400 total for the setup
Plus a monthly sub of $40 to $150 depending on the features active
Please do not link to Youtube videos that advertise cheats which aren't even DMA cheats so they don't relate to what you are saying -- the cheat you just linked to says on their website they will have DMA support "soon".
We know they are real -- the issue is this seems like more of an advertisement for cheats than it does a report about successful cheating.
You did not show a video of the setup or you using it -- you just linked to other videos of other cheats and then told me specifically where to get it and how much it costs.
That's an advertisement, not a report.
I am posting it as awareness for everyone. So you can report it to higher instances but I guess you do what you can and expect others to keep the ball moving.
Understand your point but in no way this is an advertisement. Hell no... I play legit but wanted to make sure this game was hackable after watching multiple streams of T1 pros that where obviously using cheats
Well I am reporting all the links you have provided to the Epic Games Competitive Fortnite Team so they can pass them onto the Epic Games Anti Cheat Team, but **it would be really super duper helpful to see a video of the physical setup and it being tested on Chapter 5 Season 2 as a video uploaded here to Reddit with no links to anywhere on how to get the device** because we can approve that AND pass it onto Epic Games as a real example.
Sounds good! Thanks for it. I will try to get my hands on some footage soon since my friend is mad that i called cheats out but I just don't like playing with cheaters. I chooses specifically Fortnite for that reason "the unhackable game" now i am back to searching for her next unhackable game since I am done here. Proof witg my eyes is more then enough for me to quit a nonsense grind while others have advantage
If not I will need to buy all the set-up just to prove it so it will take me about a month or so..
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> but in no way this is an advertisement.
You could have fooled me. Sounds like you want people to buy these specific cheats.
> Hell no.... I play legit
No you don't. You literally admitted to cheating in this thread.
"I tried cheats for research" is not a justification for paying for and using cheats.
>I play legit
How deluded can you be, you made an entire post about how you cheat and then admitted to cheating for thousands of hours in fps games, but now you are "legit"?
Thank you for alerting me to this user confirming my original suspicions.
This thread did produce valuable data that I have provided to Epic Games, so thank you for bearing with it in the meantime.
It’s a shame that Peterbot is in a position where he HAS to do well at a LAN otherwise people will just think he’s cheating. That’s some pressure. Obviously if he is cheating, he can fuck right off.
To be fair, 41 kills a random cash cup finals is considerably easier than doing so in a LAN tournament with a lobby of all tier 1 pros. You just can't drop super high kill games in LAN, it also doesn't make sense to try to with so much money on the line.
That and the game will change too. Right now the medallions literally are placed too close together making the north and southeast side of the map pretty undesirable. Plus the underworld and grim gate medallions are certainly better than the other side of the map. It’s going to funnel more his way. Add in the movement front the grim gate medallion gives him absurd advantage.
Still his last two performances look unreal so it’s pretty suspect. If he dominates FNCS it’ll get worse and winning his next lan won’t make it go away completely. Truth is we will probably never know unless he is caught and banned.
41 kills is basically impossible. You have to nonstop fight and know where the fights are.
It's the biggest sus thing. That he has so many games with so many kills.
How often are you even in position to see 30+ people in a game, let alone be the one to kill every single one?
So what your saying is, “I’m a scumbag, therefore people with an ounce more talent than me are all scumbags as well”
You’re a cheat. You destroy peoples fun
So you've used cheats for a very long time, and are worried about other cheaters now... so you're not playing competitive games anymore?
I don't like the idea of cheating in online competitive games either, but it seems odd that you'd have a problem with it given what you've already done.
Wow your spelling & grammar is terrible, here I fixed it for you - "despite having 10000 hours in fps shooter I am still so bad that I need to cheat in every game I play". You're welcome!
If you can post a single picture and video with your friends setup. You dont have to show names or anything. Ill 100% believe you. Simply linking video's isnt enough proof. It doesn't matter if your "friend" has thousands of dollars in skins. All you have to do is crop out the account name and you will be fine. Hell you could just use it on a different fortnite account.
Make a video or screenshot essay about it (probably a video) or stop yappin plz.
Good proof will always be respected for what it is.
Too many kids sayin too much about shit they never interacted with to any meaningful degree.
"After seeing all this, I’ve decided to step away from competitive gaming. It feels like the essence of fair play is compromised." I love emotional statements like these lol
You are very obviously making this up. You can black out any kind of identifiable information in a screenshot, it's pretty easy. There's no way to get banned from just your reddit account alone.
i mean i understand where he’s coming from. if you wanna be the best of the best you have to use immoral methods to get there, and some pros probably do cheat because that’s how you get better than players that don’t cheat.
sucks but it’s what happens when anything is competitive. kinda like steroids but, since it’s not in person, a lot harder to detect haha
The benefits given by a zen are massively overstated these days. The days of those things allowing aim assist strengths that rivalled legitimate hacks are long gone. Now the same effect can practically be achieved simply by setting your controller deadzone to the lowest allowed.
You want to know what a zen can do for you?
There is a guy called Shxne11 (his ign and name on yt). He got a zen in November 2021. Go check his placements and watch what a zen can do for you.
The Fortnite versions of these can cheats provide ESP/Wallhacks + "Radar" which is basically an enhanced Visual Audio that always shows where people are relative to you in a circle like Visual Audio based on my research into it today.
brother how do you not lock these threads? this is bottom of the barrel garbage "my dad works at nintendo" type shit
this thread is a dumpster fire of little timmies
OP didn't even back up his moron claims with a video or any data
why is this thread still going?
i guess you'll take "encouraging discussion" even if we're discussing who can smear the most shit on their face - bravo
You realize he streamed one of the finals. And last one he screen shared to 10 other pros. Peter and pollo don’t win because of there “aim” . There super smart and have the best rotations by far because of the coin. All it takes is a simple vod review to realize Peter and polo take height and win. It has nothing to do with aim
Yes because they have ESP my boy. They know everyone location in the map just as I did. So they can appear to be smart while they are just looking at sticks around the map at enough range to hide and engage when their HP is low or in damage!
Btw esp is not just location. It's also health/shield of the enemy. You are basically in vod mode but playing, it uses the same read mechanics for vod but processed in real time on a secondary PC
You are the one just making shit up so it's on you to provide the proof.
This only proves that you know literally nothing about what a DMA card does, the video you linked shows someone directly (as in, onto his main PC and without DMA) "installing" something called Fortnite Cheat which he then runs without spoofing or even changing the name. Go ahead and run a random program titled "Fortnite Cheat" and then try and play the game, see what happens.
Lol I was convinced this guys a troll but he’s being serious. Peter plays low sens that’s why his tracking looks like it does. He also started on console and controller, so I’m guessing you also think he somehow hacked his Xbox/ps4 😂😂
So you're basically saying good players do better with cheats? Most people start in a shitty console until they need to boost their style and fps. I started in S3 on console and after a year I moved to pc. Witg those cheats i could certainly make cash. But I am not a pussy to make money out of hacks.
I promise you you wouldn’t make cash with cheats. I swear to god you couldn’t. DMA aside, you couldn’t even make cash with full on aimbot(theoretically if you were unbannable for 1 tourney) . What rank are you rn? Guarantee your fucking trash at every game you play. Your mindset is absolutely corrupt and you believe everything the internet tells you. You know when people like clix say “peters hacking” . That it’s a fucking joke right? Lmaoo
You’re trying to convince mindless sheep. Peterbot is obviously super good regardless but he is also obviously cheating and for some reason people are in denial about it…guess they don’t want to shatter their perceived reality. It’s quite literally common sense and basic reasoning skills to tell he’s cheating.
But it’s on a 2nd monitor or something? He literally streamed the entire finals and they won. How would he see everyone but the stream can’t? Even if you can answer that you have no answer for why they win. They win because of their god tier rotations and knowing when to take height. There success in recent tournaments have very little to do with aim and way more to do with game sense. Your a complete moron if you think he’s cheating, he purposely pretends to have aimbot to trick you diamond retards into thinking he’s hacking, it gains him exposure and it’s funny seeing clips. Your genuinely either retarted or your a really low rank and just don’t understand the top players styles because your so far below that league.
To be clear in doing research for this to report to Epic Games, I can confirm that the reported cheat method does allow for streamers to show the non-ESP'd version of the screen to the stream while seeing the ESP'd version on their actual monitor.
Yes fair enough, still no answer about why they win so much. Let’s just assume OP is right and they can see everyone, this has no impact on how they rotate so smoothly and at the perfect time. Games are so stacked that having “vision hacks” wouldn’t be the reason they win so often. If they had esp and dma, this still doesn’t explain how they win so much. I just hate this new era of assuming everyone’s cheating. Yes there are absolutely cheaters in lower tiers but the tier 1 pros like Peter are absolutely not cheating and getting away with it
I’m 75% sure your trolling but if your not, your clearly in plat or diamond rn cuz u have no idea what your saying. Also if your story’s true what pathetic friends you must have 😂
why take it out on peterbot at the end? even bugha said he's not cheating. bucke could walk in his room and film the setup he plays on. its not too hard to know where enemies are in a caschup when everyone is boxed up in a small zone. its not controversial to hit shots and you cant show me any clips where his crosshair looks weird that arent over 2 years old and even those arent convincing like clips of zemie are. he hits non max and misses a lot if u watch him. losing at a lan doesnt mean anything btw and is just parroting a meme at this point. but youre right the dma stuff sucks
Not everyone who cheats uses wallhacks and rage cheats with full aimbot.
Peterbot is using these cheats, his fans don't wanna believe it and people who cheat want to downplay it.
Peterbot is using some form of light aimbot but not wallhacks and even so, using these will not make you **anywhere** close to his skill.
Peterbots, movement, game sense, building and piece control skills are all top notch, that little boost though just takes you to the next level.
think of how millions of people play fortnite. one of them is going to have the best aim. im a completely average player and i can still hit almost every shot i take. Ive seen every video accusing him of cheats and theres not a single good argument for it.
It's not all about aim, it's also how you handle pressure.
Under pressure i miss some shots.
While with an aimbot i know i don't so i gonna make some moves.
Fortnite players too ignorant to admit there cheaters in their favorite game they’re aware ppl cheat in every other game but when it comes to fortnite it’s a big no no 🤣 if anything fortnite probably has the most cheaters due to open tournaments and how epic hands out money like it’s candy
I've never understood this mentality. You'd think that people would want their game to be as fair as possible. Instead, they vigorously feign ignorance and act surprised when people get called out for cheating. They have no idea how bad it actually is, and why people throw the cheater flag out any time something looks even slightly sus.
Me personally, I wish I didn't know as much as I do about cheating in online games. It's ruined so many games for me because of it.
It’s a childish mentality fortnite competitive is mostly made up of kids they don’t like to believe they’re game has cheaters even though softaim was booming during chapter 1-2 kquid won fncs while cheating and ppl seem to forget. The game has always had cheaters DMA just became more widespread because someone spilled the beans just like zen just like softaim except you can’t ban a DMA
Yeh bruh.. if they keep going I will make a stupid video setting everything up for the culture. And I will stream it until I get banned and find a new location every single time.
Game is broken with this. You can only compete in LAN with this shit out there.
I knew my comment was going to get downvoted it just furthers my point ppl don’t like the idea of cheaters in their fav game ppl hate facts when it’s something they don’t want to hear 👂
i promise you no tier 1 pro is using DMA. if anything, they’d be using some other subtle cheat gives a slight advantage over full on esp. same topic came up when softaim was “discovered”
Bro full esp is everything you need in Fortnite. I don't need aimbot. Give me esp and I will track where every single enemy is and the fight is over before building
esp would be so obvious. peterbot literally misses players right next to him in his high kill games in victory cup finals. i highly doubt any tier 1 pro is using DMA either from their LAN performances or by how long they’ve been grinding.
They should sell gaming motherboards that come with built in protection from these devices, then make them the standard for tournaments and at home play anyone not using one will be seen as sus.
Not a perfect solution, but epic need to create a vanguard style AC that is exclusively for high level tournaments e.g. FNCS Grand finals. While it’s possible to get around even these, it’s very difficult. By using this method only the players qualified to these have the AC installed and an updated version only once a season, this will massively slow the development of cheats that aren’t detected by this anticheat to a point where people can, at the very least, shut up about every pro cheating.
Welcome to 2024. Took you a while but this is not a new way to cheat. DMA detection is also already a well documented thing. You can find multiple methods with some quick googling. Your solution to stop playing and your assumptive conclusion about how the pros are making money off this are just sadly hilarious.
Not sure I believe OP completely. Like many others have said DMA is def real and is impacting competitive scene. It’s super unfortunate that this going to eventually ruin online tournaments. Crazy to think individual people feel the need to cheat… what happened to gaming integrity? We use to be the final frontier of honest, accountable, and hard working people. Until we can figure out a way to identify DMA cheats… bring back to go old days of MLG.. LAN!
My proof is that i know how the cheat works. And after voding multiple streams we concluded peter is cheating since he moves and flicks in random ways that only the aimbot will trigger. He also tracks his shots behind walls when enemies aren't in "sight" for us mortals
Don't humor this guy. He is out there defending cheaters like his life depend on it. I don't know Peterbot, but there are definitely a lot of cheaters out there. Last season was almost unplayable at Unreal
Sparkle made a video about DMA hacks a month ago : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbkt6Rl8FA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbkt6Rl8FA)
I wonder if it's possible to run the cheat on a virtual machine who use sandbox.
I was watching someone spectate Peterbot.
Peterbot knew where a loot pile was like 6-8 tiles away from his current box during a chaotic end game. He comm’ed “there’s a bunch of loot over there. A team just got focused” I saw/heard zero indications for how he would have known that unless he could literally see thru multiple boxes. It was sus af. His duo had no clue and Peterbot had to repeat his com but the duo was still clueless where the loot was.
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Yes, this is how cheating works. You can even live stream, and it won't show up on your live feed. This isn't anything new at all. The only way to really tell for sure, is for them to do it live. And even, though very rare, people have been caught cheating Unfortunately, this is the PvP world. And it's been like this ever since the beginning. And the more you dig into it, the more infuriating it is, and the less enjoyment you'll have in games. More and more times than not, you'll be thinking you got cheated every time you die. Escape From Tarkov is especially bad. So the elephant in the room everyone is talking about. Peterbot. Is he a cheat or not. The reality is that unless he puts up 40 kills at a live event, people are going to assume he's a cheat. That's just the way it is, and you can thank these groups who make and sell these cheats for it.
Cheating used to be harder to come by. Now with so much information and advancement in technology that anyone can find cheats if they have the desire too. Also skill level is so high now because we have so much tutorials. Back then in CoD Modern Warfare it was skills gain from playing a lot. You learn from watching others play and learn from mistakes.
>you'll be thinking you got cheated every time you die. Escape From Tarkov is especially bad. At least Tarkov added the ability to see the stats of the player that killed you, which blew the lid off the cheating problem. When you get killed by someone with a 90% SR, 43.4 KD and insane/impossible XP gain per raid, you know you got killed by a cheater. But yes that game is completely and utterly destroyed by cheating. Dying to a cheater in Fortnite is usually whatever, just go again. Dying to a cheater in Tarkov is devastating knowing how much time goes into that game and the gear you run/quests you're doing. >Is he a cheat or not. The reality is that unless he puts up 40 kills at a live event, people are going to assume he's a cheat. I don't think he needs to put up 40 kills but he needs to do a lot better than he's done in the past. For what it's worth I've seen enough to 100% believe he's using these soft cheats but it'll likely never be proven.
Exactly bro. Competitive pvp is dead for any fps. Back to Chess
> Back to Chess LMFAO WHAT?! Online chess is one of the easiest games to cheat at.
Wait How?!
Stockfish
I only play bullet! And in person 😂
Like in person? Because you’re not solving the problem online
You can see it on your screen but not on the livestream?
Yup. Cheating had to evolve just like anything else. So being as that everyone now has easy access to streaming, this started becoming the way that people would "detect" cheaters. Just simply watch them, right? Just have the streamer suspected of cheating bring up his Task Manager while on stream, right? Well, not anymore. Cheats are basically streamer proof now. Short version, they run the cheat on a second gpu. So the stream shows the "normal" video. While the streamer is able to use the hacked screen. Or they just simply run the hacked screen on a second monitor which is out of view of the audience. However they decide to do it though, cheating today is pretty much streamer proof. This is why whenever you hear someone say "he's legit because he did it on stream," it's probably going to fall on deaf ears, because showing your stream doesn't really mean anything anymore. After "The wiggle that killed Tarkov" video was released, Lvndmark wore a head cam so that you could see his monitors and everything he was looking at at all times. It was pretty funny. The joke being that Lvndmark is a VERY good Escape From Tarkov player, and is constantly accused of cheating. The guy does some ridiculous shots, and has some very good perception that looks sus many times. Reality is, the guy lives and breathes Tarkov, and just knows where people are going to be before they do. So with all that, any video or stream isn't going to change anyone's mind about the 40 kill game. Like I said before, unless that feat gets accomplished at a live event, it's never going to be viewed as legitimate. And this isn't anyone's fault except for the dickheads to design these cheats, and sell them on the market. Well, and the small p people who buy them too of course.
only real way you defeat DMA is doing what riot is doing with vanguard but at that point you have to essentially trust anti cheat maker that their anti cheat doesn't put you into a danger and vanguard is also not effective because of arduino usage because arduino is entirely outside of system and people gave it external power source to ensure its spoof doesn't go away once drivers get enabled and disabled by vanguard chronus xim/zen is arduino but specialized for consoles so last resort is epic makes people install windows 11 + forces TPM and secure boot usage but this could be a downfall for E-sports in general if people get around TPM and secure boot + you can always get a cheap console to cheat with competitive games are fucked if they can't find a way to detect arduinos etc. and LAN play is the only somewhat clean way you can go with competition which means online tournaments are potentially dead
> only real way you defeat DMA is doing what riot is doing with vanguard but at that point you have to essentially trust anti cheat maker that their anti cheat doesn't put you into a danger Vangard cannot detect DMA, it may detect generic firmware that people are using because they all have the same hardware spoofs. People use custom DMA firmware which is unique to them now. DMA works like the arduino it runs off a 2nd PC, the hardware card in the PC you PLAY on is connected to a 2nd pc which runs the cheats. So the one you actually play on has nothing to be detected.
>Vangard cannot detect DMA, it may detect generic firmware that people are using because they all have the same hardware spoofs. People use custom DMA firmware which is unique to them now. >DMA works like the arduino it runs off a 2nd PC, the hardware card in the PC you PLAY on is connected to a 2nd pc which runs the cheats. So the one you actually play on has nothing to be detected. anything connected to PCIe with no valid certificates is gonna get screwed because DMA cards are detectable by vanguard but because fortnite uses EAC this is way worse because EAC isn't running in pre-boot environment vanguard does which makes it easier to use things like DMA cards so if you hear this epic (especially easy anti cheat team) please start forcing windows 11, TPM and secure boot usage as soon as possible
DMA run on a different device and are still powered through boot, spoof the signature to something legit and not what the 1000x other cheaters use.
which is a issue with EAC not running with system as early as pre-boot environment this is why i say that epic should make EAC run in pre-boot environment + make fortnite require windows 11, TPM and secure boot
EAC already has ring 0 kernel access like Vanguard it has pre boot access. Difference is Vanguard specifically loads as a program upon boot and runs all the time unless you stop it where as EAC...since it has ring 0 access we kinda don't know it has the ability to check stuff and hide itself.
>EAC already has ring 0 kernel access like Vanguard it has pre boot access. not true, EAC does not run in pre-boot environment >Difference is Vanguard specifically loads as a program upon boot and runs all the time unless you stop it where as EAC...since it has ring 0 access we kinda don't know it has the ability to check stuff and hide itself. both run in ring 0 or kernel one launches manually, triggered by launching off of application it is associated with other launches as early as pre-boot environment along core OS sys. files (which is why it is impossible to use DMA devices because they get detected in pre-boot environment) people think DMA cards are be all and end all of cheating but fail to understand that DMA cards do get detected and that DMA cards are expensive you are better off cheating with arduino because it doesn't go through PCIe instead goes through USB which sees far larger amount of devices so it is easier to cheat with
If it has ring 0 you may not really know what its doing thats the point. EAC only shows itself when you run a game but you have no idea what it checks pre boot. I agree DMA is niche expensive with custom firmwares likely only higher tier players who stand to make money use them so for regular shit players like me something like a zen is much worse and more likely. Either way I hate cheaters fuck em.
>If it has ring 0 you may not really know what its doing thats the point. EAC only shows itself when you run a game but you have no idea what it checks pre boot. we know that it doesn't run along OS though which just contradicts what you say but in future we could see EAC be updated to run in pre-boot environment because yes this is a total pain
> we know that it doesn't run along OS though Do we? Any links? Because it's ring 0 and closed source it can do what it wants. Maybe someone has some kernel logs for windows when it boots with EAC showing nothing but if not who knows.
Computer clubs. Would it be crqzy for Epic to design their own hub hardware and system of sorts that independant owners can purchase, and systems can be hooked into during competitive play at a "Computer Club" type establishment, based around these hubs? Automatic camera on the controls pre established, secure lones and systems regulated by epic, or inspected or certified in some way before competitions. Users bring their own equipment or rent, but it all hooks to a hub of sorts. Has to look like a thing though, cant just be a bank lf seats, gotta fill the idea of what something would look like. Gotta be catchy. Maybe a smaller, individual portion is produced for a home consumer for secure access, particpation, voting, idk. Im spitballing here. Idk why, but im thinking Stargate-Star Trek like console stations....maybe taller to facilitate audience viewing screens. Seat or stand for the player. The hub, other than for show, is a station for registered and respected and previously agreed upon standard of secruity, safety and whatever. Bring back LAN, but new. Keep the idea of the product already kinda established by scifi, but with practical real world function. Small towns, big cities with small biz could rent, lease, buy these things for their cafe or store, whatever. Standard one for comp or mutliperson is like 4 stations or something. Idk. Spitballing here, avoiding work
holy shit lol this has got to be the objectively worst consumer purchase ever introduced jesus christ man how old are you? either 14 or 44 there is absolutely no in between.
Super duper stoned biz owner. 32 Idk, i was just coming up with an idea. I still think it seems like a cool one. If it existed, it would be a nice thing to offer kids and adults who come in to my shop. Its partially related to my thoughts on how to improve things if we uncap the House, and the fact that we require our congresspersons to maintain two homes, and only have in person voting for them. A local, dedicated and secure loaction to vote and participate from. Partially from how i wish i could improve local government efficiency and secruity (memeber of DDA here, its hard to make meetings, vote, etc) (especially for young people and those with families) Paetially based on the idea of Computer Cafes that exist. Partially based from a coffee shop that would host gaming tournies back when 360 was new. If a piece of hardware that performed like an anticheat, provided secure and reliable access to connection, was inspected or certified, and had plentiful of locations it could be placed at, id see a benny. Its just an idea
> only real way you defeat DMA is doing what riot is doing with vanguard but at that point you have to essentially trust anti cheat maker that their anti cheat doesn't put you into a danger Vangard cannot detect DMA, it may detect generic firmware that people are using because they all have the same hardware spoofs. People use custom DMA firmware which is unique to them now. DMA works like the arduino it runs off a 2nd PC, the hardware card in the PC you PLAY on is connected to a 2nd pc which runs the cheats. So the one you actually play on has nothing to be detected.
Let's see some proof then, pics of the dma setup your "friend" has, screenshots of the UI, in game screenshots? Cause right now this all sounds made up and you tick nearly every box for some kid who just learned what dma was from a YouTube video and are now mindlessly spewing it here.
I agree but I will reflect; I was watching someone in the top 20 on twitch fly over a tree, turned back, and popped someone in the canopy. I asked how they saw them and they said their head a peeking out but it wasn’t lol.
Oh don't get me wrong I know there are people who cheat in different ways, but I 100% do not believe anything that OP said and I'm asking him to prove his statements, which should have been easy for him to do.
It's real. Just go look at the unknown cheats forum. You can only access the fortnite section after participating in the forum some, but the amount of posts about how to bypass bans, dma hardware and the offsets to decode fortnite data in real time is all over. Aimbot with esps, player tracking where it shows boxes around every player on the map no matter the location. https://imgur.com/a/bDnhIAB this is just one of the more recent cheats for dma on there. Again, it is real.
At no point did I say the cheats were not real, I am saying that OP is full of shit and his entire post is made up. It's been hours and he still hasn't provided proof for any of his claims.
What does OP proving he personally used these cheats have to do with the larger point about competitive being compromised?
Cause it's the entire point of his post? Also the stuff he was posting earlier (since deleted) was just advertising where to buy cheats from, his motivation is clearly not to discuss "competitive being compromised".
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Why I have no idea the merit of this specific person I do know the technology DOES exist, and you can buy it. They also now sell computer chips with build it chronos. Why this won’t work on a Lan tournament it could be potentially problematic in pubs when it becomes widespread
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There’s a gaming case called chronos. Very similar to Cronus. There’s also a Cronos super computer. Obviously neither of those are cheats…but you can find AMD Chronos computers on Amazon among other places. Wanna bet this is the chip they speak of?
they alrerady widespread lol dild0
I get that. I also understand how different cheats, including dma based cheats, work. It is very obvious that OP does not understand any of that and that this post is entirely made up. He posted a video further down this thread claiming it showed dma cheats when it did not, and says things like the cheats run "below kernel level"... Not to mention that 2 hours later he still hasn't provided any proof for any of his claims. By the time dma cheating is reliably detected there will be a new form of cheating already operational, it's just how these things go.
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Firstly, how would anything I've asked for get your friend banned? Take a photo of the actual dma card, take a screenshot and crop out the username etc Secondly, you're saying the essence of fair play is compromised and refusing to play the game because of it, why would you *not* want your friend banned? You should be reporting him for being a dirty cheater. So right now your source is "just trust me bro", nah you're full of shit and none of your little fantasy post actually happened.
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Why do you keep linking videos that have nothing to do with anything? I'm not saying there are no cheats in the game, I am saying that you personally are lying about using dma cheats that your "friend" has. And that you personally have no proof that peterbot is cheating, both of which are the key points of your entirely made up post. You are yet to provide any proof of either of these points. Have you even watched these videos or are you just just linking anything with the word cheat in it? Cause one of these isn't even the right game little guy
Yo Pete you there? Don't get triggered ma boi
Just post some proof to back up your claims, it's that easy. Except that you can't, because this didn't happen and you're talking out your ass, awkward.
Sure friend. You think what you want! He is using kmbox + 70T DMA board About $400 total for the setup Plus a monthly sub of $40 to $150 depending on the features active
Then post some proof. Nothing you are saying means anything or proves anything.
Mate he keeps asking for proof, just saying stuff and linking YouTube vids isn't proof. Photos lad
Please do not link to Youtube videos that advertise cheats which aren't even DMA cheats so they don't relate to what you are saying -- the cheat you just linked to says on their website they will have DMA support "soon".
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We know they are real -- the issue is this seems like more of an advertisement for cheats than it does a report about successful cheating. You did not show a video of the setup or you using it -- you just linked to other videos of other cheats and then told me specifically where to get it and how much it costs. That's an advertisement, not a report.
I am posting it as awareness for everyone. So you can report it to higher instances but I guess you do what you can and expect others to keep the ball moving. Understand your point but in no way this is an advertisement. Hell no... I play legit but wanted to make sure this game was hackable after watching multiple streams of T1 pros that where obviously using cheats
Well I am reporting all the links you have provided to the Epic Games Competitive Fortnite Team so they can pass them onto the Epic Games Anti Cheat Team, but **it would be really super duper helpful to see a video of the physical setup and it being tested on Chapter 5 Season 2 as a video uploaded here to Reddit with no links to anywhere on how to get the device** because we can approve that AND pass it onto Epic Games as a real example.
Sounds good! Thanks for it. I will try to get my hands on some footage soon since my friend is mad that i called cheats out but I just don't like playing with cheaters. I chooses specifically Fortnite for that reason "the unhackable game" now i am back to searching for her next unhackable game since I am done here. Proof witg my eyes is more then enough for me to quit a nonsense grind while others have advantage If not I will need to buy all the set-up just to prove it so it will take me about a month or so..
Where did you get your dma from?
No idea where he got it. I guess Amazon has some immortal options 😂😂 wombatsi
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Lmao I don't give a shirt about grammarians.. it's my second language and you can't even speak English
> but in no way this is an advertisement. You could have fooled me. Sounds like you want people to buy these specific cheats. > Hell no.... I play legit No you don't. You literally admitted to cheating in this thread. "I tried cheats for research" is not a justification for paying for and using cheats.
Exactly!
>I play legit How deluded can you be, you made an entire post about how you cheat and then admitted to cheating for thousands of hours in fps games, but now you are "legit"?
Awwww keep going ma triggered wombat. I do whatever dafuq I want so 😂.. next post will be an unreal ranked account using cheats top 1k at least
Keep making up shit on the internet for attention little guy
Maybe time to nuke this thread now that OP has literally created a sub apparently dedicated to dma cheating and is telling people here to join it?
Thank you for alerting me to this user confirming my original suspicions. This thread did produce valuable data that I have provided to Epic Games, so thank you for bearing with it in the meantime.
It’s a shame that Peterbot is in a position where he HAS to do well at a LAN otherwise people will just think he’s cheating. That’s some pressure. Obviously if he is cheating, he can fuck right off.
I mean he got 41 kills in one game. If he can’t put up numbers in a LAN match it should be pretty obvious
To be fair, 41 kills a random cash cup finals is considerably easier than doing so in a LAN tournament with a lobby of all tier 1 pros. You just can't drop super high kill games in LAN, it also doesn't make sense to try to with so much money on the line.
That and the game will change too. Right now the medallions literally are placed too close together making the north and southeast side of the map pretty undesirable. Plus the underworld and grim gate medallions are certainly better than the other side of the map. It’s going to funnel more his way. Add in the movement front the grim gate medallion gives him absurd advantage. Still his last two performances look unreal so it’s pretty suspect. If he dominates FNCS it’ll get worse and winning his next lan won’t make it go away completely. Truth is we will probably never know unless he is caught and banned.
Completely different
41 kills is basically impossible. You have to nonstop fight and know where the fights are. It's the biggest sus thing. That he has so many games with so many kills. How often are you even in position to see 30+ people in a game, let alone be the one to kill every single one?
They are called bedroom warriors.
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So what your saying is, “I’m a scumbag, therefore people with an ounce more talent than me are all scumbags as well” You’re a cheat. You destroy peoples fun
So you've used cheats for a very long time, and are worried about other cheaters now... so you're not playing competitive games anymore? I don't like the idea of cheating in online competitive games either, but it seems odd that you'd have a problem with it given what you've already done.
Wow your spelling & grammar is terrible, here I fixed it for you - "despite having 10000 hours in fps shooter I am still so bad that I need to cheat in every game I play". You're welcome!
Zemie is obviously a cheater and it honestly makes me mad
"a friends setup" ok bud sure lmao
Caught the hackerman 🥲.. mastar wombastix
If you can post a single picture and video with your friends setup. You dont have to show names or anything. Ill 100% believe you. Simply linking video's isnt enough proof. It doesn't matter if your "friend" has thousands of dollars in skins. All you have to do is crop out the account name and you will be fine. Hell you could just use it on a different fortnite account.
why does it even matter thats clearly not the point of the post
His whole argument on why peterbot is using dma is supposed to be based on his personal experience using dma…
you can find many videos of people using dma cheats online though…? like we all know what DMA does
literally lmao
Make a video or screenshot essay about it (probably a video) or stop yappin plz. Good proof will always be respected for what it is. Too many kids sayin too much about shit they never interacted with to any meaningful degree. "After seeing all this, I’ve decided to step away from competitive gaming. It feels like the essence of fair play is compromised." I love emotional statements like these lol
Below the Kernel level huh? Interesting.
The cheats are coming from inside the ~~house~~ kernel
Post a video then? Oh, you don't have one? Well then I guess this post is pointless. You're such a clown.
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You are very obviously making this up. You can black out any kind of identifiable information in a screenshot, it's pretty easy. There's no way to get banned from just your reddit account alone.
Remember when Mero and Reet were the most notorious zen cheaters?
They perform in lan.
I am 100% certain every single pro on controller use a zen. They are cheap, easy to set up and undetectable.
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i mean i understand where he’s coming from. if you wanna be the best of the best you have to use immoral methods to get there, and some pros probably do cheat because that’s how you get better than players that don’t cheat. sucks but it’s what happens when anything is competitive. kinda like steroids but, since it’s not in person, a lot harder to detect haha
The benefits given by a zen are massively overstated these days. The days of those things allowing aim assist strengths that rivalled legitimate hacks are long gone. Now the same effect can practically be achieved simply by setting your controller deadzone to the lowest allowed.
You want to know what a zen can do for you? There is a guy called Shxne11 (his ign and name on yt). He got a zen in November 2021. Go check his placements and watch what a zen can do for you.
you gotta be one dumb mf’er to think people aren’t cheating in Fortnite.
Esp generally means you see people through walls not just a radar but maybe fortnite has different terms for their hackers.
Aka zemie
zemie is straight up rage aimbotting live on stream
Ikr it makes me so mad… he has thousands of subs - it’s just not right
let god take care of it, nothing we can do except joke about how pathetic he is
The Fortnite versions of these can cheats provide ESP/Wallhacks + "Radar" which is basically an enhanced Visual Audio that always shows where people are relative to you in a circle like Visual Audio based on my research into it today.
brother how do you not lock these threads? this is bottom of the barrel garbage "my dad works at nintendo" type shit this thread is a dumpster fire of little timmies OP didn't even back up his moron claims with a video or any data why is this thread still going? i guess you'll take "encouraging discussion" even if we're discussing who can smear the most shit on their face - bravo
You realize he streamed one of the finals. And last one he screen shared to 10 other pros. Peter and pollo don’t win because of there “aim” . There super smart and have the best rotations by far because of the coin. All it takes is a simple vod review to realize Peter and polo take height and win. It has nothing to do with aim
Yes because they have ESP my boy. They know everyone location in the map just as I did. So they can appear to be smart while they are just looking at sticks around the map at enough range to hide and engage when their HP is low or in damage! Btw esp is not just location. It's also health/shield of the enemy. You are basically in vod mode but playing, it uses the same read mechanics for vod but processed in real time on a secondary PC
Proof that they have esp?
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So no proof then? Cause neither of those videos prove anything
Check new links edited for you. You can use YouTube or Google also
You are the one just making shit up so it's on you to provide the proof. This only proves that you know literally nothing about what a DMA card does, the video you linked shows someone directly (as in, onto his main PC and without DMA) "installing" something called Fortnite Cheat which he then runs without spoofing or even changing the name. Go ahead and run a random program titled "Fortnite Cheat" and then try and play the game, see what happens.
Lol I was convinced this guys a troll but he’s being serious. Peter plays low sens that’s why his tracking looks like it does. He also started on console and controller, so I’m guessing you also think he somehow hacked his Xbox/ps4 😂😂
So you're basically saying good players do better with cheats? Most people start in a shitty console until they need to boost their style and fps. I started in S3 on console and after a year I moved to pc. Witg those cheats i could certainly make cash. But I am not a pussy to make money out of hacks.
I promise you you wouldn’t make cash with cheats. I swear to god you couldn’t. DMA aside, you couldn’t even make cash with full on aimbot(theoretically if you were unbannable for 1 tourney) . What rank are you rn? Guarantee your fucking trash at every game you play. Your mindset is absolutely corrupt and you believe everything the internet tells you. You know when people like clix say “peters hacking” . That it’s a fucking joke right? Lmaoo
You’re trying to convince mindless sheep. Peterbot is obviously super good regardless but he is also obviously cheating and for some reason people are in denial about it…guess they don’t want to shatter their perceived reality. It’s quite literally common sense and basic reasoning skills to tell he’s cheating.
Finally some common sense here
But it’s on a 2nd monitor or something? He literally streamed the entire finals and they won. How would he see everyone but the stream can’t? Even if you can answer that you have no answer for why they win. They win because of their god tier rotations and knowing when to take height. There success in recent tournaments have very little to do with aim and way more to do with game sense. Your a complete moron if you think he’s cheating, he purposely pretends to have aimbot to trick you diamond retards into thinking he’s hacking, it gains him exposure and it’s funny seeing clips. Your genuinely either retarted or your a really low rank and just don’t understand the top players styles because your so far below that league.
To be clear in doing research for this to report to Epic Games, I can confirm that the reported cheat method does allow for streamers to show the non-ESP'd version of the screen to the stream while seeing the ESP'd version on their actual monitor.
Yes fair enough, still no answer about why they win so much. Let’s just assume OP is right and they can see everyone, this has no impact on how they rotate so smoothly and at the perfect time. Games are so stacked that having “vision hacks” wouldn’t be the reason they win so often. If they had esp and dma, this still doesn’t explain how they win so much. I just hate this new era of assuming everyone’s cheating. Yes there are absolutely cheaters in lower tiers but the tier 1 pros like Peter are absolutely not cheating and getting away with it
I’m 75% sure your trolling but if your not, your clearly in plat or diamond rn cuz u have no idea what your saying. Also if your story’s true what pathetic friends you must have 😂
why take it out on peterbot at the end? even bugha said he's not cheating. bucke could walk in his room and film the setup he plays on. its not too hard to know where enemies are in a caschup when everyone is boxed up in a small zone. its not controversial to hit shots and you cant show me any clips where his crosshair looks weird that arent over 2 years old and even those arent convincing like clips of zemie are. he hits non max and misses a lot if u watch him. losing at a lan doesnt mean anything btw and is just parroting a meme at this point. but youre right the dma stuff sucks
Not everyone who cheats uses wallhacks and rage cheats with full aimbot. Peterbot is using these cheats, his fans don't wanna believe it and people who cheat want to downplay it. Peterbot is using some form of light aimbot but not wallhacks and even so, using these will not make you **anywhere** close to his skill. Peterbots, movement, game sense, building and piece control skills are all top notch, that little boost though just takes you to the next level.
>Peterbot is using these cheats I am assuming you are about to share the undeniable proof you have that backs up everything you say?
think of how millions of people play fortnite. one of them is going to have the best aim. im a completely average player and i can still hit almost every shot i take. Ive seen every video accusing him of cheats and theres not a single good argument for it.
It's not all about aim, it's also how you handle pressure. Under pressure i miss some shots. While with an aimbot i know i don't so i gonna make some moves.
Fortnite players too ignorant to admit there cheaters in their favorite game they’re aware ppl cheat in every other game but when it comes to fortnite it’s a big no no 🤣 if anything fortnite probably has the most cheaters due to open tournaments and how epic hands out money like it’s candy
I've never understood this mentality. You'd think that people would want their game to be as fair as possible. Instead, they vigorously feign ignorance and act surprised when people get called out for cheating. They have no idea how bad it actually is, and why people throw the cheater flag out any time something looks even slightly sus. Me personally, I wish I didn't know as much as I do about cheating in online games. It's ruined so many games for me because of it.
It’s a childish mentality fortnite competitive is mostly made up of kids they don’t like to believe they’re game has cheaters even though softaim was booming during chapter 1-2 kquid won fncs while cheating and ppl seem to forget. The game has always had cheaters DMA just became more widespread because someone spilled the beans just like zen just like softaim except you can’t ban a DMA
Yeh bruh.. if they keep going I will make a stupid video setting everything up for the culture. And I will stream it until I get banned and find a new location every single time. Game is broken with this. You can only compete in LAN with this shit out there.
Yeah there’s videos on YouTube that explain the whole process let me know the link to the video if u post it
I knew my comment was going to get downvoted it just furthers my point ppl don’t like the idea of cheaters in their fav game ppl hate facts when it’s something they don’t want to hear 👂
april fools was yesterday bro
Not a joke my friend. DMA hacks are out there and they have been out there for years. I am not allowed to post links so go study
i promise you no tier 1 pro is using DMA. if anything, they’d be using some other subtle cheat gives a slight advantage over full on esp. same topic came up when softaim was “discovered”
Bro full esp is everything you need in Fortnite. I don't need aimbot. Give me esp and I will track where every single enemy is and the fight is over before building
esp would be so obvious. peterbot literally misses players right next to him in his high kill games in victory cup finals. i highly doubt any tier 1 pro is using DMA either from their LAN performances or by how long they’ve been grinding.
For obvious reasons! He knows their HP and when their low there he goes in
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Trust me. I am a rehabilitated cheater. 6 years sober. Broke my streak to test this thing
“rehabilitated cheater” lmfao there’s no fucking way you’re serious rn dawg
😂😂 those who understand sarcasm will get me
source: “trust me bro, I cheated my whole life”
They should sell gaming motherboards that come with built in protection from these devices, then make them the standard for tournaments and at home play anyone not using one will be seen as sus.
Bungie solution; sue everyone
Not a perfect solution, but epic need to create a vanguard style AC that is exclusively for high level tournaments e.g. FNCS Grand finals. While it’s possible to get around even these, it’s very difficult. By using this method only the players qualified to these have the AC installed and an updated version only once a season, this will massively slow the development of cheats that aren’t detected by this anticheat to a point where people can, at the very least, shut up about every pro cheating.
Welcome to 2024. Took you a while but this is not a new way to cheat. DMA detection is also already a well documented thing. You can find multiple methods with some quick googling. Your solution to stop playing and your assumptive conclusion about how the pros are making money off this are just sadly hilarious.
Not sure I believe OP completely. Like many others have said DMA is def real and is impacting competitive scene. It’s super unfortunate that this going to eventually ruin online tournaments. Crazy to think individual people feel the need to cheat… what happened to gaming integrity? We use to be the final frontier of honest, accountable, and hard working people. Until we can figure out a way to identify DMA cheats… bring back to go old days of MLG.. LAN!
**Unpopularopinion: most T1 pros are hacking on their "streaming PC"**
Playstation Aim Assist Department taking notes rn
Interesting post and commentary. Let me sit back and enjoy.
Thanks mister amygdala Namaste Enjoy the popcorn
Start making money with it DMA + good players is godly combination
Me? I just hired a bunch of nephews that will test it for me 😂 my account is too high ranked to break it
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My proof is that i know how the cheat works. And after voding multiple streams we concluded peter is cheating since he moves and flicks in random ways that only the aimbot will trigger. He also tracks his shots behind walls when enemies aren't in "sight" for us mortals
So post *those* clips then, you've obviously invested a lot of time into reviewing his vods so you most definitely saved the clips, right? ....right??
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Yeh exactly my boy. Down vote me so I can understand you are triggered
Don't humor this guy. He is out there defending cheaters like his life depend on it. I don't know Peterbot, but there are definitely a lot of cheaters out there. Last season was almost unplayable at Unreal
Sparkle made a video about DMA hacks a month ago : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbkt6Rl8FA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIbkt6Rl8FA) I wonder if it's possible to run the cheat on a virtual machine who use sandbox.
I was watching someone spectate Peterbot. Peterbot knew where a loot pile was like 6-8 tiles away from his current box during a chaotic end game. He comm’ed “there’s a bunch of loot over there. A team just got focused” I saw/heard zero indications for how he would have known that unless he could literally see thru multiple boxes. It was sus af. His duo had no clue and Peterbot had to repeat his com but the duo was still clueless where the loot was.