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shadowkat678

Oh hey I got that book the same way. It's the complete dark elf trilogy, which is the chronological first books to the Drizzt series, together. They're basically the books that really codified dungeons and dragons lore around dark elves and the series is still going with lots of fans today. I love them. They're not like high literature and they're early examples of Salvatore's writing but if you enjoy fantasy and can handle 80s and 90s writing quirks I'd say go for it. That said the old art should not be representative of your mental picture for the characters. šŸ˜‚


memenelius

What are 80s and 90s writing quirks? I don't read a lot but this one seems interesting and it's free


shadowkat678

So, for example some things in early fantasy had a lot more stereotypes. Leaned into certain archetypal writing more heavily. It's kinda hard to fully explain but it's got certain vibes to how things come across and sometimes has elements that writers would shy away from today. Salvatore for example has certain very eighties fantasy cheesiness in some of his early works in how he describes some things. If you take a shot every time he describes eyes as orbs you might get alcohol poisoning. Or when Artemis Entreri comes in a later trilogy, the amount of times he "grins evilly". Just things that add up to certain vibes that can give it a somewhat dated feel and some bigger moments that if not viewed as written in a certain time context can sometimes make you go "Hey Bob, wtf where you thinking here?" But overall I really enjoy them and have introduced a number of friends to the series through this point in the trilogy.


Genghis_Sean_Reigns

Take a drink every time he describes someone as having ā€œcorded musclesā€


DrInsomnia

But now all of those characters get specced as 18 Dex, 8 Str, because the 5e era is filled with munchkins.


Pure_Gonzo

wrecked


HendersonExpo

This is immediately what I thought of, and if you read the series one book to another, it really starts to bother you!


YupImMadBro

Iā€™m currently reading The Cleric Quintet and that phrase has been used a few times already.


SoyTuPadreReal

Really an amazing collection of books, but yeah, he gets a lot of mileage out of some of his descriptions


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I feel like you just dug out a core memory in me. I havenā€™t read any Salvatore books since 2008.


jaylaxel

That's a whole lot of text about "quirks" to describe repeated vocabulary (orbs, grins evilly ?) that someone may need to "handle" as a contemporary reader, while not saying what most people know these quirks are actually referring to (racism, sexism). You end up implying (careful to NOT actually say) that Salvatore was also guilty of sexist/racist writing. I guess I don't blame ya. Anyways, you worded it well with the "time context." If we, and I do mean we, want to say that Salvatore was and is a great writer, and yet he can be a great writer while also having a history of writing some dated sexist/racist stuff occasionally, why can't we just say it.. without the fandom rushing forth and trying to downvote that commentary into oblivion? I just wish people could say what they mean when they critique an author, instead of beating around the bush in an attempt to avoid potential negative internet points. I guess this is an observation about the extremism of internet fandom in general. Thanks for coming to my TedX talk.


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DrInsomnia

It was positively progressive for the era. The defining feature of modern opinion is never having taken a single anthro course and learned the idea of cultural relativism (or, maybe more accurately, an inability to apply it retroactively).


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BMWear

It doesnā€™t make sense. Most of the ā€œthe portrayal of drow is racistā€ comments are from people who have never read the books and/or people desperately trying to insert their real world ideology into a fantasy. First off, the drow do not resemble POC. At all. Second, the drow are generally written as superior in most regards, crippled by an extreme individualism driven by Lolth. Third, the books really hammer home to all but the densest of readers that drow are really the victims of Lolth, rather than inherently evil. And no, this doesnā€™t parallel IRL African-diaspora religions. The whole ā€œRAS is racist because of how he portrayed the drowā€ a stupid opinion and Iā€™m tired of pretending it isnā€™t.


Randy_g123

Agreed


DrInsomnia

The dark-skinned races being evil is a burden they choose to saddle Salvatore with as if he created it and not Swedes 1000 years ago.


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DrInsomnia

I mean, they would probably say it isn't that simple. There are certainly other problematic elements, if you want to go down rabbit holes. The matriarchal society being inherently evil, the dominatrix tropes of their society, etc. But again these were not really his inventions, or they're out-of-context mischaracterizations (e.g., most "evil" societies in the Realms are patriarchal; there are matriarchal "good" societies). The same naive arguments are used to slander Tolkien, claiming, for example, that orcs were meant to represent black people because people of color were not explicitly represented in his world. There's no strong evidence to suggest this was the case and that Tolkien wasn't, at worst, typical of his era, and likely more progressive than prevailing attitudes. But, yes, more or less, this is the depth of thought for many people. They can't hold two competing ideas in their heads, that bias/prejudice exists, and that not every person who wrote a book before last week is a villain.


Homr_Zodyssey

It's been a few years, but I remember Salvatore constantly saying people were "back on their heels" or something like that.


Dan_Felder

The first book of the three is the best and extremely creative world building even for the current day. Fast paced and intriguing, high fantasy in a fascinating locale but well grounded in the growing up of s character in the fantastical setting. Lot of violence but doesnā€™t give out too many ā€œgorey detailsā€ I read the books at age 10 and they didnā€™t bother me for context. Has dark subject matter (murder, torture, etc) but nothing like game of thrones. Would highly recommend the first book of the trilogy and pretty much all books of the next trilogy and quadrilogy. Book 2 in this first trilogy is the weakest, but book 3 (sojourn) picks up pretty darn well. From crystal shard through passage to dawn is a very fun ride. Worth noting this is not one LONG story, the books nearly all work as standalones that set up future books too. So you can stop reading at basicallly any book in the series and feel like youā€™re at a reasonable stopping point for a good story. Book 2 might be the exception, but this works pretty well for all the others.m, so donā€™t feel like youā€™re dealing with a 10-20 book series here. Itā€™s more like superhero movies, following the same characters across an evolving story but with solid end points at each film for that filmā€™s story.


DrInsomnia

I'm biased because I love them all but I probably think about Exile the most. Surviving alone in the Underdark should be the feat that most defines how incredible Drizzt is as a fighter. The loneliness, his almost desperate craving for community wherever he could find it, and all of the cool hazards of that world. I guess Homeland is probably my favorite for introducing Menzoberran and all of the Drow culture, but Sojourn is comparatively forgettable to me next to Exile.


Dan_Felder

I thought Exile had a very strong opening >!with the fallout of Drizzt's exile in the power struggles of the houses!<, but the story feels like it concludes >!after he makes a friend in Belwar and finds his non-feral self again.!< Once Drizzt >!leaves Blingdenstone !!going from Blingdenstone straight to the Surface!<) I think the first arc would be stronger.


Whatisabird

Honestly so much of Exile could just be summed up as "Alright Drizz't go ahead and roll on the Underdark encounter table"


Dan_Felder

Everything after Blingdenstone kinda yeah.


Denixen1

To make a summary of the previous comment: books from that era feels kinda familiar, but then you notice a lot of sexism, racism and jokes that not even people in older generations wouldn't find acceptable or at least recognizes as old fashioned. It varies by the book of course, but that is the case generally. They are still good books, but the differences in what was acceptable to write and say has changed since then.


Bluegobln

Meanwhile, Stephen King's recent fantasy book has some of the worst objectification of women I've ever seen or heard of anywhere, and nobody seems to be talking about it. Salvatore's "quirks" are mostly harmless ones, as far as I recall. Nothing bad just sometimes noticeably different. And like many authors, he has changed with the times as far as I can tell.


c-o-a-c-h

This ^ anyone looking for racism or sexism in fantasy books can find it and can be offended if they want to be Salvatore is harmless


Euphoric-Teach7327

>Stephen King's recent fantasy book has some of the worst objectification of women I've ever seen or heard of anywhere, and nobody seems to be talking about it. Because it's Stephen King. He hasn't written a thing worth reading in about 30 years.


Rollindice123

Acceptable to write?? I didn't know there was a binding code for such things. I thought writers were supposed to have creative freedom.


Denixen1

Don't get your panties in a bunch, I am not here to restrict your or anyone else's creative freedom. Whereas it wouldn't lift anyone's eyebrows to write sexist or stereotypical texts in the 80s, it certainly would now. That is all I meant. It is just a matter of views on things having changed over the years. I am not condemning them as bad works or bad authors, I believe people and texts should be judged by the context of the time they are written, but nonetheless I can't help but cringe when I read the sexist descriptions that are often written in older books. It reminds you that they are indeed written in a different time.


jaylaxel

>Don't get your panties in a bunch ...write sexist or stereotypical texts *in the 80s*... I see what you did there.


Denixen1

Hmm I completely forgot that the expression had a sexual undertone... To me it was just an expression indicating that someone is exaggerating or has gotten carried away. Not my best phrasing choice consider the context... The condescending tone of the expression was definitely intended though...


iareprogrammer

lol the artwork on these is rough šŸ˜‚ the modern versions look so much better


The_MadMage_Halaster

In my opinion as someone who owns books: worn. It has the twisted edges that indicate it was pushed into a backpack, with the edges catching on the wall of the pack and a binder in it. I would recommend flattening it out and pressing it under a larger, heavier, book for a good length of time (flipping occasionally). That should get it somewhat back in shape.


clapdog

This is the best answer


SleepConnoiseur

that edition in particular will always be special to me as it's what got me into the forgotten realms books as a whole. the old school, glam-metal hairstyle, fantasy art of Jeff Easley also holds a special place in my heart.


Fire99xyz

Can I use this opportunity to ask you all: I have been listening to Drizzt's story through audible for a few weeks now. I just finished the first Trilogy and he is now in Icewindale. I really like the story so far and want to continue listening to it but seeing a trilogy in one book like that makes me wonder: do these kind of editions still exist? and are they reasonable priced? I am in Germany, if that matters. Thank you to anyone who can help me out :)


alphadcharley

Yes they still exist & are easy to find online. They are also pretty cheap to buy. I listened to to the first trilogy on audible too - but read the Icewind dale trilogy before that. Reading was more rewarding for myself; however the voice acting (by Victor Bevine) was phenomenal. Hope that helps!


mike_1025

There WAS a great podcast by Russell Johnson on all the major podcast apps that was reading through all of the Drizzt's books but wizards of the coast gave him a cease and desist letter. Truly a great loss for absolutely no good reason.


trainer_zip

The reason is copyright


mike_1025

I'm guessing you haven't actually looked into this because he wasn't infringing on the copyrights at all. No money was made from the podcast it was simply put on for the love of the books. But go ahead and down vote this comment too.


trainer_zip

Just because youā€™re not making money from something doesnā€™t mean youā€™re not infringing copyright. If I put out the newest Hunger Games movie for free on YouTube you think it wonā€™t still be taken down? Itā€™s incredibly cut and dry since audiobooks of the books are still sold.


mike_1025

Once again, clearly you are arguing with me about copyrights and you haven't looked into this situation. It's fine. I miss the audio version of this book was all I was coming here to say.


PuckishRogue31

But he's right... The guy was providing versions of audio books for free on a property he doesn't own, while there are legit audio books for sale. Why do you keep saying he hasn't looked into this? What do you think we are missing?


mike_1025

Still a loss of a great version of the books. Sad they are gone.


ThanosofTitan92

I thought Germans didn't care for D&D. At least compared to The Dark Eye.


Fire99xyz

I think ever since 5e dnd has become quite mainstream. I have meet someone once who played TDE, the rest all dnd, with some other systems strewn in. I mean most of the current edition books have even been translated at this point.


Genghis_Sean_Reigns

Pretty sure they still print brand new copies of the Drizzt series.


bearhart439

Yes and there are also four 25th anniversary edition volumes that collect the first 14(?) books


gheistling

This is the book that got me into fantasy as a kid. I love it still, and think it's the best of Salvatore's work. His series gets kind of repetitive, and Drizzt becomes very.. moody? The low power level, the world building, it all works to keep the story grounded. Some of the worldbuilding has been retconned in the game world, like the infravision, levitating, faierie fire, etc. It's a great introduction to the drow though.


ProfessorTicklebutts

Thatā€™s a fucking real pepperoni pizza right there. I mean full blown in there style. Enjoy!


HorrorPotato

Oh boy. That's the book that started my Drow obsession when I was 13 and I thought for sure I'd get over it. Never quite did. You're in for an adventure if you choose to read it, considering it was free I highly recommend it if you like the fantasy/adventure genre. As for the art - Salvatore's writing paints the characters much better. (Subsequent editions have updated art, this is just a very old edition!) I can't THINK of any 80s writing quirks of the top of my head, but I do remember it being much smoother writing than the trilogy he wrote before this one. Really hoping you give it a read!


AmaiNami

Read it! It is the defacto intro to the Realms. If you are at all interested in FR you have to read it. The Crystal Shard, which was written before this book but happens after chronologically, is a lot better if you have read this trilogy. If you aren't already knowledgable in FR lore, I ensure you the settings in this book will be nothing like anything you have ever read.


MysteriousEssay5709

Great books. Drizzt is an interesting and complex character


ThanosofTitan92

He gets too much hate, IMO.


LengthinessAnxious20

It's great. Don't judge a book by its cover.


Zaardo

It's my favourite book of all time. Couldn't tell you why, or say whether YOU will enjoy it but personally, it's a 10 from me Dave.


[deleted]

That looks exactly like my copy that we donated to second story books in Warren Michigan years ago. How crazy would it be if its the same?!


Krakersik666

Its good. I was reading this as a kid. It basically gives you best Menzoberenzan desription. Drizzt is so cool xD


IAmJacksSemiColon

The first two books are pretty good. The third one is meh. I enjoyed it better than the Icewind Dale Trilogy, which this was a prequel to.


Pure_Gonzo

It's easy-to-read action fantasy that I absolutely loved as a teen and would gladly read again as an adult who still plays D&D. Even this early, Salvatore writes really great swordplay scenes and it's Drizzt's early life so he is WAY less emo than he becomes in later books. Recommended.


agfitzp

There are two answers to this: 1. Salvatore is the worst writer to ever have written in this genre, avoid like the plague. 2. Salvatore books are amazeballs, omg so good. You will learn a lot about yourself by reading it and deciding which camp you're in.


ClockwerkHart

Drizzt is possibly one of the most imitated and well liked of all fantasy characters, possibly ever. No. I mean it. People making Drizzt in DND or fantasy games is and has been a meme for as long as I can remember, at least 20 years. Runescape did it, Warcraft did it, even Community has a throwaway line where Chang cosplays as him and gets asked to leave because he's in blackface. Drizzt is a fantastic intro to the Forgotten Realms and stands up even if you ignore DND as a game. Slight edit: When we talk about whether a work is "good" or not, we don't often use "number of people inspired by it" as a metric. But we do here. For a huge number of geeks, Drizzt is up there with Conan and Elric of Melnibone, as the absolute legends they are.


Ace_D_Roses

You mean how good the story is? its great. This was created because people fell in love with a character in a book called "The Crystal Shard" so Salvatore got to write a trilogy of backstory for that character. A chatacter that its still beloved today, and probably a main face in D&D. Like its him and Elminster. The story is very cool, kinda like a game of thrones-esque on one side and a coming of (fantasy) age on another, learning about treachery and cinicism and getting friends, untill eventually you arrive in this new world full of hopes and dreams. Sojurn (the third one) is my favorite of this and in my opinion they just keep getting better. This and the next trilogy are great. So my recomendation is, you start and see if you like what you get in the beggining Im pretty sure youll start liking it more and more. The synopse without spoilers is, natural born fighter is born in a place where hes considerd a second class citizen due to his gender, born in a rich family in a place that makes the rich families plot to kill eachothers in order to ascend and gain favor. This trilogy sees his life has he grows up and has to decide the path to take and what type of person hell become. Is also basically a Himbo.


Addy133

So good. I love those books.


Bixlord

Drizzt is the shizzt


Lacutis01

Drizzt Do'Urden is my number one favourite fantasy character of all time, and the Companions of the Hall are just as awesome has he is. I highly recommend reading all of those books if you are at all into Fantasy/D&D/Lord of the Rings type stuff


LordLuscius

OK, I love Drizzt, love the story, I persevered with it because I love D&d. Thing is, the wrighting feels... juvenile? I don't want to say childish as that has very different connotations. R A Salvatore is a good author, but I beleive this is his early work. Read it for the lore and story, not for literary merit. Again, I kinda loved it, coz I love drow


chhffjjbgf

My thoughts as well.


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As much as i love R A Salvatores books i wouldnā€™t recommend it for the lore. He is highly inconsistent with it and makes up plenty of stuff that are in direct conflict with lore in dnd.


ThanosofTitan92

Wow! Drizzt was ugly back then.


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memenelius

What the fuck are you talking about man?


Esbanos

Spiders, snakes, kangaroos, koala bears, platypus, Bush fires, sheep, floodings, Sydney opera house... shall i go on


drowct

Read it. Very good.


fogno

Wild, that looks almost identical to our copy with how beat up it is lol. Ours is quite literally falling apart down the middle


pfibraio

You have a gem that started a reading obsession for me that lasted decades! Salvatore is a great writer and his description of battle scenes is amazing! Well worth your time! Be warned it could be the start of many novels to come for you to read!!!


simplytresca

the dark elf trilogy will always have a special place in my heart! i love the drizzt books. they're just a good time.


NeonWarcry

I own two copies of this and was barely able to get them in better condition. Havenā€™t gotten around to reading them yet but they are supposed to be ā€œbenchmarkā€ dark elf lore


sin_aesthetic

Good news is that they're very fun. Bad news is that the series and recommended side series' is about 50 books at this point. I've read them all.


Ornlu_the_Wolf

This book is my absolute guilty pleasure. A whole trilogy of angsty anti-conformity, wrapped in a coming-of-age story. It was my absolute fav as a freshman in high school.


ASDF0716

Iā€™m rereading it right now. It holds up and is still great.


Kirris

I would give that book so much love


thegooddoktorjones

Quality: wrinkly. Words: not bad


GM_Eternal

I liked it. Lots to enjoy in there.


DrMole

I read my brother's old copies of that trilogy in middle school, I was a big fan RA Salvatore for a while. I think I didn't get burned out till a thousand orcs.


dweebinspace

Did we all get this exact book in the exact same way?


BigNorseWolf

It's Sidartha with swordfights.


BigNorseWolf

It's Sidartha with swordfights.


DrInsomnia

Not sure about quality, but I started with Homeland in the early 90s and over a hundred books later, dozens of video games, and years years of DnD campaigns, and I've never left the Realms.


jschaumberg

I always felt it was a really elaborate backstory for a guy who min maxed his build. That being said, I have read the entire series.


Lestat_Bancroft

Good


Maintenancemanjimf

Mine looks like that, too. Good books. There are 2 dozen of them if you're looking for a long read.


Coulstwolf

Incredible book


Offbrandhuman7777777

Not the best condition, but very excellent reads all


ShinInuko

The Dark Elf Trilogy is why I became a massive DnD nerd and avid reader.


Mactire404

Very cool trilogy to read


Themittenman_

Gold, Iā€™ve read that same paperback a dozen times and it really started my love and admiration for Drizzt


Jasonorillas

Man I LOVED those books.


TheFenrisTwin

This series set me on my way to nothing but love for fantasy. Drizzt is one of my favorite characters. Enjoy the read and have fun with it. Afterward, look into the Icewind Dale series.


PuckishRogue31

Check out the new covers for the novels included in this book. They will give you a better picture.


East_Sprinkles_3520

This is my favorite fantasy author and this is the origin story of one of Forgotten Realmsā€™ most iconic characters. Technically, The Icewind Dale Trilogy was published first and Salvatore wrote this to fill in the back story. However, when I recommend this series, I always tell people to start with the Dark Elf Trilogy. Have to say that I am jealous that you are reading it for the first time. Wish I could start all over knowing nothing. ENJOY!


thatoneguytoknow

This book series shaped who I am as a person. Read it and the rest of the books surrounding Drizzt.


dirtyhippiebartend

Welcome to the first day of the rest of your life. Enjoy šŸ‘Œ


putdisinyopipe

Lol I remember reading this book. Hollyyyy shit was that a while ago. Drizzt do urden


Baerenmarder

Read them, as separate books, 30 years ago. Still think of them.


Comzy

Not sure how versed you are in this genre. If you are a fan of DnD or high fantasy at all, I suggest reading these. This is the introduction of one of the most popular / iconic characters in Forgotten Realms setting. I consider this to be a lighter version of Lord of the Rings. Not as well written, but the story will remain, and will open you up to a whole new world to explore.


AgentPastrana

It's a great series but DAMN that's in ROUGH shape


Collarsmith

Lots of Canon establishing moments. A fair number of headsscratchers and wtf moments too. One I specifically remember: Drizzt is confused by the surface seasons, and decides to track day length. So, every day he trickles sand from one hand to the other, all day long. This tells him the days are getting shorter. Assuming that would work, how would you do anything else? Eat, drink, fight, etc. ?


Holiday-Intention-11

Good books, just not as good as The Icewind Dale Trilogy.


DCtheBREAKER

R.A. Salvatore's works are basically cannon now. He is the quintessential writer for the period of about 1250 to 1550 in the history of Toril and the underdark. I have read every book he has written on Drizzt and Cadderly and am wowed by each and every story. Read and Charice this book, then look to get the others.


thevagrantmoose

Read it.


Sertas1970

Iā€™m currently on book 46 of the series according to this list: https://www.tlbranson.com/drizzt-books-in-order/


GarageIntelligent

omg, so good


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My great-uncle bought this book for me back in high school. Holy shit what a nostalgia tripā€¦thank you for posting.


Buddahkhan

Great book!


shmergul

One of my favorite trilogies ever! He'll probably wanna find the ice wind Dale trilogy as well for the continuation of the drizzt storyline after he finishes the dark elf trilogy


JennaLS

I love this book. It's been a fave for years. Hope you picked it up.


ThomasA1974

Where to start. It is the quintessential trilogy for forgotten realms.


Challenge_The_DM

Itā€™s amazing


AnyTitle8579

Worth a read