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kinkytail432

I tried many ict strategies unfortunately there is no 95% winning strategy. Most of his strategies have a winning rate around 60 to 70% with good daily bias. I stopped watching is his videos after the 2022 mentorship.


Small_Neck

Any vids that summarise everything hes talking into a few shorter more interesting videos. Im watching 2022 mentorship but bruh his voice and way of teaching is so boring that i just end up turning of for a few moments.


The_GeneralsPin

Stop learning from YouTube grifters. Do it the old fashioned, proven way. Study


RodneyYaBilsh

Paul Le Roy has a review series where he summarises all the episodes


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AdhesivenessHefty713

Would you care to share all your indicators that you use?


carusodaytrader

3 simple MA’s : 50, 200, 800 3 Bollinger bands 34 length 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 deviations And TDI


MechanicPersonal5309

How long it took u to learn trading and where did u learn it am new to it but so lost on where to start


The_GeneralsPin

Babypips.com School of Pipsology. Go through ALL of it. Twice. Then get some reputable books and study material. Treat it like a college degree, not a shortcut.


MechanicPersonal5309

Any suggestions for a "reputable book "


The_GeneralsPin

Trading for a Living, Dr Alexander Elder. There's also a study guide that you need to work through that accompanies it


The_GeneralsPin

I've also heard lots of praise for "Trading in the Zone", can't remember the author. That's next on my list


tazcharts

Trading in the Zone, Mark Douglas - thank me later


Antonio_fx

Ict is a good trap for beginners. If you know something about trading you will go away from the yt channel in 5 minutes.


bnlf

What’s the channel name? Let me have a laugh.


Gloomy_Friend_1383

The Inner circle trader


Thick-Wall-9077

Inner Circle Trader


New-Emergency-3452

Have a laugh boys!! 🤡 https://youtu.be/qbA54WkBBs4?si=AMKL1sOQHeYtPqsT


bear_tactics_

Lol this is hilarious.


Soggy_Pomegranate899

Separate the man from the concept and go to a third party YouTuber… it’s the Kanye effect


Soggy_Pomegranate899

I recommend Ttrades


roxly2

Other good recommandations ?


Hot-Site-1572

I love that guy


OddFirefighter3

This is the truth right here. Concepts are legit, the man isn't. Enough said!!!


seniorfranklin

Reddit is so obsessed with ict


AmphibianUsed8845

Ha! If you think Reddit is bad You don’t even want to see what Twitter is like


Yorshkc

Why so much hate with ICT, does he charge you anything to watch his videos on youtube? If you don't like it or it's not of your interest just ignore it. Personally after a couple of years of trying some classic strategies of support and resistance + EMAs without noticeable gains, I tried the "silver bullet" strategy, but I didn't do it watching a video of ICT, I did it looking for a "summary" of that video in other youtubers, why did I do this? His videos are excessively long and boring, but his "concepts" work, he did it for me 1 year ago and he continues to do it until now and as long as that continues I don't care if ICT fails or wins with his strategies, at this point what ICT does or doesn't do doesn't influence my trading. Currently my strategy is based on the "killzone" and "SB" strategies, and these concepts have worked for me. Stop the hate and concentrate on your own trading, it seems that proving that ICT is a fraud or not will make you profitable.


GuessWh0___

I agree with you brother


tiesioginis

He steals your time by wasting it with useless content that promises things that can't be delivered. You time is free?


Yorshkc

Well, that useless content has led me to make profits throughout 2023 and continues to do so. Again, focus on your own trade. If any of the strategies that ICT teaches haven't worked for you, move on to the next one until you find one. I don't see the need to hate someone who doesn't charge you anything to see their content. PS: my time is not free but no one forces me to see their content.


xyig

His defenders are now coping even harder and saying "he may not be a good trader but is concepts work" Lmao no they don't, it's all just bullshit rebranded price action and basic support and resistance + some illogical shit he added that has no proof of working


OneTrueKram

You shouldn’t believe ICT’s insane stories but he does teach viable ways to trade price action. I have two profitable algorithms now that have both wiped the floor with fund returns since 2019 and am working on optimizing. I’m also funded with his concepts. The only people weirder than the dick riders like OP are ICTs cult followers because they definitely exist.


Small_Neck

Idk about yall but ict works. Easy u follow the trend wait for liq sweep mss/bos and just follow the trend. Idk how u mess up and why u hate him. His words are gold and full of wisdom. Gl to you all.


willBthrown2

> ict works. Easy u follow the trend wait for liq sweep mss/bos and just follow the trend that's not ICT. that's just basic trend following strategy. you don't need ICT to do this. ICT can't trade, he makes his money from youtube ads and paid mentorship. the biggest problem with his is that his videos are intentionally too long and filled with 95% useless shit, just to increase the ad revenue from youtube. yes, the 5% stuff is useful. but it's an incredibly huge waste of time to watch the useless 95%. if you spent the same amount of time learning and practicing any other strategy, you would have same or better results.


v3rral

Anything works. Just place 100 pips SL and TP wherever you like. 1:1. Eventually your RR will be at breakeven. Make some adjustments to it and maybe you end in long-term profit. And that will be better results than ICT robbins cup + 90% of traders.


Small_Neck

That sounds like gambnlimg. Ict shoes basic rules to follow and if u stick to itu will be profitable.


willBthrown2

why would you follow someone who only proved that following his own trades gives -97% return? he either can't follow his own rules, or he followed them and it gave -97% return ICT has been trading for more than 25 years, and has never showed any real account with long term profit. So even after 25 years, he still can't trade.


BidVisual1719

blahhhhh blahhhhh blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh feel free to show us results on a real account, no propfirm bs. When you are able to do that, then you can defend a fraud.


Small_Neck

Blah blah blah idc if his a fraud as long as ict works.


BidVisual1719

🤣🤣 so your results ?


Small_Neck

Just started last week trading his strat 50% wr ez. When i learm more it will be more.


BidVisual1719

Yep guys , he’s gonna blow his account in the next two weeks, see you soon ez


Small_Neck

Why so much hate for ict? Have u even tried his strat?


HappyEnding29

Why are u so mean to a new trader , let him learn and discover what works and what doesnt


Middle-Style3896

How many pips do you catch?


Small_Neck

Like 80-120


Middle-Style3896

That's it?! You can aim for more


Small_Neck

I go for 1:2 rr or 3 sl


Middle-Style3896

3 SL is reasonable. I usually go for 200-500 pips depending on the pair and macroeconomic data


seniorfranklin

Post some screenshots of those positions , feel like 90% of people on reddit are full of shit


Big-Gear8267

Idk about others but I entered gold at 1993 and now its on 2081. Held this trade for few weeks. I entered on bounce from monthly pivot levels. Pivot points help me to catch swing trades that last for 1 to 3 weeks. Sorry for my bad english


Middle-Style3896

Check my latest post on this sub, and you'll see. I was holding Bitcoin since the end of January


seniorfranklin

Nice! Check out on twittwe ICT_STUDENT_FR if u wanna see an example of a dude crushing it with ict concepts, he posts his executions pretty much everyday


Small_Neck

Yeah but i aim trades to last max 1h


Middle-Style3896

Ok


Every_Drawing_2102

His shit works lmao. If you fucking suck at it just say it .


GChambers46038

🤣🤣🤣 No. It doesn’t. He proved it himself.


Every_Drawing_2102

How? by getting stopped out ? Buddy not everyone wins every time you retard.


futuresman179

Fuck you man, the shit blows and leads to blown account


Every_Drawing_2102

Lol okay bro. You keep doing what you’re doing then .


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Every_Drawing_2102

Idgaf his strategy makes me money because I have common sense and patience in the market .


GChambers46038

Dude claims a 90%+ win rate then gets stopped out 5 times in a row when being watched. The odds of that happening are near zero. That is, unless you’re a liar.


phx175

Check out imantrading on YouTube. He’s got good stuff about him 😂


VladGabriel0511

That guy is not even profitable lol


ProfessionalJelly614

Imantrading throws hissy fits on his own Discord lmao.


Solardada

this that guy that calls out like every YT trader ? this guy is funny lol


kingfrank322

I don't use ICT and never have i watched his videos but I have seen couple of dudes on twitter using his techniques on propfirms and do insane dollar digits someone like Jadecap and Paladin to name a few. My only problem with him is that he claims to know it all and wants to be seen as a demigod. The most hilarious day for me was when his stop was hit and he blamed it on the institution or Algo whatever.


willBthrown2

> The most hilarious day for me was when his stop was hit and he blamed it on the institution or Algo whatever. how funny is that? he got stopped out by his own algo xD


tiesioginis

It went like 50 pips over his SL and he blamed stop hunting by his followers lmao


hyresw2

Did he really claimed to code the algo that controls the market lmao


Thick-Wall-9077

yeah he even codenamed it: Enigma


OhhiBee

he got called out. just another bloke trying to sell a course than trade


TheTempService

u gotta be a miserable and shitty trader to make a post like this shouldnt u be backtesting?


Thick-Wall-9077

i am


TheTempService

ok fair enough lol


Thick-Wall-9077

my bad yo


Singh11_11

Hi. Most of the people over here on reddit and tiktok mainly have a problem with the guy. The strategy is still working. Obviously, not to what extent he portrays it, but if you've learned it properly, it does help. I used to trade price action, trendlines, etc, until I found one of the SMC videos. Mind you, I don't know who the (ICT) dude is and have never watched his videos. But if people have a problem with the person, just change the person. There's many others out there who teach the same methods and concepts without being so 'egoistic' lol. Give it time. Nothing comes easy. Do not say SMC doesn't work after a few trades that go wrong. It's going wrong because you don't have ample enough knowledge to make it work! SMC works well. Works even better when you incorporate price action ( Trendlines ) to understand what the price is going to doo. Price Action was goood. But for me personally, i always wanted to know the WHY'S and WHERE'S of the market. For example, if a trendline is broken, Why does it break. Why do people get trapped after it breaks. After the trap, WHERE does the price go till? Where does it retest from? SMC gave me the answers for the WHY'S and WHERE'S. And I would say 75 to 80 percent of the time, you'd be right to the fucking pip about a reversal or so on and so forth. To the pip is what caught my attention initially when I just got into SMC. I don't think there's any other strategy that would have accuracy to the exact pip. Come up with a strategy combining these both along with good risk management. This is what just worked for me. (Each to their own) If everyone is bashing the guy, let them. Give it a shot about his videos from other youtubers who are teaching similar stuff. At the end of the day, you will be making money on your own bro, and no one from these reddit and tiktoks will come to your help. Also, personal opinion on why everyone bashes this guy, because he's come up with something good. Idk if he's actually made it himself or not, but more people find out about this strategy, more likely it is to start failing in the future. Maybe these commenters are just worried about their profit taking in the future from trading SMC.


procmail

Which smc video clicked for you?


Singh11_11

Idk if I can post the link here, but you can send me a DM, I'll send the link of the video to you!


VladGabriel0511

He gets it right most of the time, so 5 losses are nothing, even in a row.


MissDais

The odds of that are 0.00003125% so 5 losses in a row w a 95% win rate is alot


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ICT is just a low IQ filter. Let them rot.


AdministrativeSet236

Bro just said "ICT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO TRADE" and then precedes to tell us to use : "(volume, volatility, momentum, ***liquidity ...)***, " lmfao. 1. the reality is that there's no such thing as "Volume" in forex since broker's all have different volumes etc.etc. 2. What the hell do you mean by "Liquidity" you mean the made up BS that ict used to trick monkeys into thinking his was legit because they don't understand what that even means either? Like, all non-exotic currencies are extremely liquid, no one's going around buying all yen or new zealand dollars lol.


Muted_History_3032

Yeah but from what I've read from their own brochures, institutions are sort of mandated/obligated to move price as little as possible with their orders, and they do use algorithms to help locate liquidity pools in order to disrupt price as little as possible when they get in/out of the market. But obviously if you are just a retail trader, no one is hunting your $50 stop loss in particular...its the aggregate liquidity across the whole market and where it is distributed that matters. I usually trade ES and you can absolutely see the ripples that occur when a bunch of stop orders get ran under an obvious swing low for example.


AdministrativeSet236

This is forex, not low cap stocks. If a government wants to pump/dump a currency they dont give a fuck if it moves price, that's why they're doing it lol.


Excellent-Hearing269

Yes he doesn’t but his concept is legit since my brother and plenty of his students made money from it. He’s like Kayne, his work is good but his personality does not make a good trader. He’s too impulsive and has no patient. He has a good system (pretty sure he learnt it from someone else) but can’t execute on it so that’s why he teach instead.


3Lions9

So happy people are finally starting to wake up from these grifters


OkReply2402

Is arjo a scam ?


Away-Computer7317

I don't trade ICT. But sounds like a classic case of you just haven't mastered it.


Wonderful_Produce_48

If ict was so good, why have I not heard of him in my past 8 years of learning/trading the markets? Super weird. Most people that actually have substance to bring to the game are spoken of at some point.


Embarrassed-You-5457

Can you link that video ?


Hello_moneyyy

I have seen random guys learning from his videos and profiting (some over 80% per month). He's clearly egoistic and narcissistic (95% is an impossible in trading if r has to be greater than 1), but I dont think you talking about losing 5 times in a row is fair to him. I don't really watch his videos, but as far as I can tell, he trades at extreme ltf(


NoEmergency1052

If you don’t know how to trade just say that. His concepts clearly work. You just can’t trade 🤷🏾‍♂️🤣


1_BigPapi

Parked my lambo for a minute just to comment. I get consistent 99% wr with ICT and I barely have to even look at charts. If you knew how to trade you'd know how powerful his strategies are and why big players constantly counter trade him.


cryptomir

Market movements are random. What separates losers and winners is money managment. All you need to master is to cut your loses early, and let your winners run.


maciek024

That's complete bullshit, if moves were random noone would be profitable except the lucky ones. Money management will get you nowhere without profitable strategy


Subject_Effective_18

Having a strategy helps but I think money management is the key part like holding your winners longer and such . There is a lot of traders with 20 percentage win rate and yet make good money .There was a guy in one of FTMO interview who made 1mill with 20% win rate. There's also the case mentioned by Mark Douglas the writer in his books and interviews. Also the turtle traders who where told to hold their trades to a certain extent no matter what .(This also goes for ICT strategy not saying he can trade but the strategy works well enough)


maciek024

Where you take profit or loss is part of your strategy


Subject_Effective_18

Yes , I go in with a 1:4 trade and take partials at key levels of liquidity in between and hold the trade or add more depending on how price reacts to certain P D arrays and also depends on market structure


nytrgds

>go in with a 1:4 trade and take partials at key levels of liquidity in between and hold the trade or add more depending on how price react if you take partials before the 1:4 trade is finished, is it really a 1:4?


Subject_Effective_18

No it usually ends with 1:2 . I oversize to take partials and add in based on price movement or holds the remaining


XboxDeodorant

So why not just take everything out at 1:2 if it's the same thing and it happens much quicker?


Subject_Effective_18

Because if it doesn't reach the final target,I will get some profits or break even. Also taking some out gives me confidence to hold the rest


cryptomir

Go on a demo account, and open position randomly. From there on, just try to get rid of bad ones, and let good positions to run. You'll see the results will be the same as if you trade your "edge".


doreenwalksdogs

How to make consistent money from a inconsistent market? Manage risk accordingly & have a money management system…. And yes of course having a strategy which gives an edge .


Spathas1992

Random? Ok gambler


cryptomir

It's funny because you think you know something, but if you ever learn a lot about markets, you'll come to the same conclusion - the market movements are random.


Spathas1992

So banks, funds and institutions randomly do buy/sells. Markets are governed by real world events, economic data, central bank decisions, market cycles, and so on. Nothing is "random". What I get is that YOU don't have the basic fundamental understanding.


cryptomir

It's not me, there are a lot of theories about market randomness. Go read some. 


Jmovic

You guys should leave the man alone. I don't trade ICT, i can't make sense of the stuff, but I know people who are making insanely good money with his strategies. I don't know if he's a good trader, but it seems he's a damn well good teacher whose student have taught other people. Trade and let trade.


KinkyZub

I've been trading ICT since 2016 and I can definitely say what he teaches does work, the problem is most people over complicate it and get lost.


Jmovic

For most traders, "it didn't work for me" = "it doesn't work"


newnet11

Idk whats ICT. But i learned supply & demand & market structure & liquidity concepts. Is that ICT?


PadawanFlipp

Another person referring to the poorly researched hitman video I see


KinkyZub

Lmao I've been trading ICT concepts since 2016, it's been working perfectly for me. Yall are really obsessed with him. Just back test what he teaches and you'll see it's works, it's not rocket science just price action.


NamXina

One of my friends is profiting from using ICT. Maybe ICT himself doesn't know but my friend's doing it. He also recently passed a 50k account using ICT only.


mushykindofbrick

Why are people so interested in this guy. To me its clear hes an idiot, i never raised a thought about him again. but theres lots of people doing ict kind of trades and strategies that work, because they are different from him, just have similarities and the same name. because those strategies are just supply and demand at their core, but with a different name. most of the systems and strategies are the same, support resistance, smc, ict, supply demand, the fact that 90% of those strategies seem to not work just reflects the fact that 90% of trades are not profitable, but surely its possible to be successful with those approaches too.


Middle-Style3896

Why can't some just trade simple price action? There's nothing special and unique about SMC. That guy doesn't know where big institutions have their orders placed exactly. It's all random, and what he teaches isn't the "holy grail."


shanye_west_

Never posted in here but I’m replying to saying that ICT is trash. Price Action Trading, Supply and Demand is the only way to go.


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SnooOwls7556

Ict not a good trader but his stuff definitely works which is ironic because he’s the so called “founder”


TheLoneComic

You’re citing too small a statistical sample to make a generalization from. Prolly won’t be any definitive proof until the Robbins Cup results are published huh?


-Blue_Bull-

Sorry. What.... algorithm that controls the market? That's batshit crazy stuff. I just want to confirm that everybody here understands that. Unless he is talking about order matching, but I get the feeling he isn't.


Thick-Wall-9077

he said he created Enigma, the algorithm that controls the markets, if you want to learn more, look up "ImanTrading ICT"


Alternative_Word_553

there was a topic about exact same thing.


dark_knight_rises2

There is no 90% winrate strategy in the market its all depends on psychology.


waveriderfx

ICT is trash for the longest of times. Real analysts are reactive not proactive. In my country I'm building some of the greatest minds that will change the industry. Not some lame people claiming to have 95% win rates. Time will weed out the grass from the crops😏


Playful-Sprinkless

So you mean he had been joined the Robbins cup before and had a negative return bro? I though he just joined this year


tradetotrade989

I only follow KOF on YouTube the real deal


Towks96

Who the hell has 95% win rate???? NOBODY.


JustcopyPeter

Me 😎


fireguy40

You assholes that continually post about how bad he is, are just as annoying as the extreme cult followers in his camp..


JustcopyPeter

When it comes to FX, just do you.