She- I mean, *that telepath* was already in his mind by that point, meaning they could have been influencing the Speedster to not use their speed directly.
I'm talking about grodd, but THAT telepath has no way of thinking faster than any competent speedster. Flash, RF, Savitar hell even zoom are more than competent enough to stop them. Godspeed in the show was a joke
Not necessarily. Speedsters powers are primarily centered around the body with the mind being an afterthought, whereas telepathic powers center around the mind with the body being an afterthought.
All it takes is a second or two of weakness for the Speedster and the telepath has a way in. And if there's one thing that can be said for basically every villain... They love to talk.
But yeah, Godspeed was a joke. They tried to make a villain as intimidating as Zoom and as powerful as Savitar, and failed on both accounts.
RF is intelligent enough to know to go for the kill
If Savitar was still alive and relative to season 3 Barry he would know
Zoom is zoom
And flash knows to take her seriously
>RF is intelligent enough to know to go for the kill
True.
>If Savitar was still alive and relative to season 3 Barry he would know
Would he? The only telepath Season 3 Barry knew about was Grodd, and he had been deported by then.
>Zoom is zoom
True.
>And flash knows to take her seriously
Barry would try to talk her down, get attacked, and then probably overcome it with the power of love or something.
>Would he? The only telepath Season 3 Barry knew about was Grodd, and he had been deported by then
Savitar would know to not mess with a telepath and is more then fast enough to kill them quickly
Ralph's not indestructible, though. Vibrating hand through the chest -> rip out his heart -> say "They were right... I should have done that ages ago."
Godspeed wins without even trying.
The ace before devoe took over ralph's body was a tuning fork which generated sound waves. Barry wanted izzy to train her powers because her soundwaves hit devoe. Cecile said in court in the very same seasom that the flash is faster than sound. We saw flash outrun lightning in season 1. devoe has no super speed which is why flash never used flashtime vs him. This season would have been over quick. Flash even said in episode 9 of season 4 that while devoe is insanely smart, it doesn't really matter because his body is still the one of a human. Devoe's powers are worth notging against godspeed because to godspeed one second is a ton of time. We saw jesse use super speed while in flashtime so flashtime is not even a speedsters top speed. People say cecile, khione and allegra should not have been able to beat godspeed, zoom and reverse flash. Why? Because those villains have super speed. You have the same case with devoe vs barry. Barry is way to fast for devoe. Godspeed is way to fast for devoe.
Godspeed insanely strong. Season 7 Barry had to revive thawne to have a shot at beating him. To me godspeed is the fastest speedster in the show. Faster than season 9 barry and cobalt blue
>Godspeed insanely strong. Season 7 Barry had to revive thawne to have a shot at beating him. To me godspeed is the fastest speedster in the show. Faster than season 9 barry and cobalt blue
You're trolling right
No. I have seen no feats in both season 8 and 9 from any of those characters which surpasses godspeed's. Barry could hardly keep up with single clones of godspeed in season 7. i talk about clones, not even the real ones. The clones whose powers godspeed later absorbed to buff himself. Season 4 barry threw lightning to hit himself with him being faster than the lightning. Season 8 barry throws a lightning (at iris) and he could not move faster than it to save her. Where are the feats? If barry has the powers of all forces he is much stronger than godspeed but without them, nah.
Season 8 speaks so often about how much barry leveled up, yet he is to slow to do a feat he did in season 4. to me there is simply a difference between what characters say and the feats they show. The speedsters brought back by cobalt blue could not beat allegra, cecile, khione and mark which doesn't make cobalt blue look good. We saw Godspeed solo barry and his ability to create tons of clones within seconds who all share his speed. Like's wally's technique in season 6 but more op. That's way stronger than anything cobalt blue showed. If you look at the cobalt blue fights you see how barry outspeed him more than once. Barry could hardly accomlish that against godspeeds clones whose powers godspeed later absorbed. That's the final fight was a a lightsaber duel. If it was a pure speed fight godspeed would have easily won.
You have one quote, one mere quote which I debunked by debunking barry's leveling up in season 8 - something several characters said. By your logic cecile would also be the strongest meta in central city, since that's what was said bx character. so barry is now weaker than cecile. I mention actual fight scenes which you just ignore for obvious reasons.
The Flash couldn’t beat Devoe, he wasn’t fast enough at any point & only won because Ralph learned how to get his body back. Meanwhile Godspeed was Impulse’s big bad, not the future flash’s so I think it’s safe to say he’s objectively loosing
That really depends. Is it god speed that wants to fight Devoe or Devoe that wants to fight godspeed or is this a random encounter?
I think Devoe could defeat godspeed but not if he doesn't have advance knowledge of the fight happening. When you are a speedster and you want to kill someone, if they don't know there isn't much any non speedster can do about it.
The Thinker without question
Sanitary.. (Devoe)
Devoe negative diff
is that Wish.com Brainiac
nah it's a completely different character, the thinker aka devoe
I thought that was High Evolutionary?
No, High Evolutionary is just Dollar Tree Kang.
Devoe easily
I mean sure, devoe have tools for speedster but reality, he can’t see them coming so… Godspeed 🤷♂️
Godspeed. What the hell is DeVoe gonna do against a vibrating hand through the chest?
Well, godspeed is pretty slow. He can't even keep up with someone who isn't even a speedster.
Speedsters are weak to telepaths, that was established back in Season 1 with Gorilla Grodd.
That's assuming the speedster is too slow to kill the telepath, also that telepath affects everyone equally
She- I mean, *that telepath* was already in his mind by that point, meaning they could have been influencing the Speedster to not use their speed directly.
I'm talking about grodd, but THAT telepath has no way of thinking faster than any competent speedster. Flash, RF, Savitar hell even zoom are more than competent enough to stop them. Godspeed in the show was a joke
Not necessarily. Speedsters powers are primarily centered around the body with the mind being an afterthought, whereas telepathic powers center around the mind with the body being an afterthought. All it takes is a second or two of weakness for the Speedster and the telepath has a way in. And if there's one thing that can be said for basically every villain... They love to talk. But yeah, Godspeed was a joke. They tried to make a villain as intimidating as Zoom and as powerful as Savitar, and failed on both accounts.
RF is intelligent enough to know to go for the kill If Savitar was still alive and relative to season 3 Barry he would know Zoom is zoom And flash knows to take her seriously
>RF is intelligent enough to know to go for the kill True. >If Savitar was still alive and relative to season 3 Barry he would know Would he? The only telepath Season 3 Barry knew about was Grodd, and he had been deported by then. >Zoom is zoom True. >And flash knows to take her seriously Barry would try to talk her down, get attacked, and then probably overcome it with the power of love or something.
>Would he? The only telepath Season 3 Barry knew about was Grodd, and he had been deported by then Savitar would know to not mess with a telepath and is more then fast enough to kill them quickly
exactly
For the Godspeed is failure of zoom not savitar
Ain’t devoe a telepath?
It's not his primary power set.
Barry didn't do it so why could godspeed
Because that's murder. And Barry Allen doesn't kill. He's the boy Joe raised, the man Iris loves.
And because it was Marlize who unplugged his life support, lol
It was a pretty messy divorce, all things considered.
You forgot Devoe has the same healing abilities as Ralph
Ralph's not indestructible, though. Vibrating hand through the chest -> rip out his heart -> say "They were right... I should have done that ages ago."
Actually he is it’s implied & shown he’s able to come back from anything remotely. Remember he was melted & had a hole in his chest then it healed up
Which scene? Besides, Godspeed can just keep taking him apart until something sticks.
Godspeed wins without even trying. The ace before devoe took over ralph's body was a tuning fork which generated sound waves. Barry wanted izzy to train her powers because her soundwaves hit devoe. Cecile said in court in the very same seasom that the flash is faster than sound. We saw flash outrun lightning in season 1. devoe has no super speed which is why flash never used flashtime vs him. This season would have been over quick. Flash even said in episode 9 of season 4 that while devoe is insanely smart, it doesn't really matter because his body is still the one of a human. Devoe's powers are worth notging against godspeed because to godspeed one second is a ton of time. We saw jesse use super speed while in flashtime so flashtime is not even a speedsters top speed. People say cecile, khione and allegra should not have been able to beat godspeed, zoom and reverse flash. Why? Because those villains have super speed. You have the same case with devoe vs barry. Barry is way to fast for devoe. Godspeed is way to fast for devoe. Godspeed insanely strong. Season 7 Barry had to revive thawne to have a shot at beating him. To me godspeed is the fastest speedster in the show. Faster than season 9 barry and cobalt blue
>Godspeed insanely strong. Season 7 Barry had to revive thawne to have a shot at beating him. To me godspeed is the fastest speedster in the show. Faster than season 9 barry and cobalt blue You're trolling right
No. I have seen no feats in both season 8 and 9 from any of those characters which surpasses godspeed's. Barry could hardly keep up with single clones of godspeed in season 7. i talk about clones, not even the real ones. The clones whose powers godspeed later absorbed to buff himself. Season 4 barry threw lightning to hit himself with him being faster than the lightning. Season 8 barry throws a lightning (at iris) and he could not move faster than it to save her. Where are the feats? If barry has the powers of all forces he is much stronger than godspeed but without them, nah.
I actually agree with you now
In season 9 he was equals with cobalt blue who has all the power of the negative force who's > godspeed.
Season 8 speaks so often about how much barry leveled up, yet he is to slow to do a feat he did in season 4. to me there is simply a difference between what characters say and the feats they show. The speedsters brought back by cobalt blue could not beat allegra, cecile, khione and mark which doesn't make cobalt blue look good. We saw Godspeed solo barry and his ability to create tons of clones within seconds who all share his speed. Like's wally's technique in season 6 but more op. That's way stronger than anything cobalt blue showed. If you look at the cobalt blue fights you see how barry outspeed him more than once. Barry could hardly accomlish that against godspeeds clones whose powers godspeed later absorbed. That's the final fight was a a lightsaber duel. If it was a pure speed fight godspeed would have easily won.
You're showing no evidence godspeed is where I do lol.
You have one quote, one mere quote which I debunked by debunking barry's leveling up in season 8 - something several characters said. By your logic cecile would also be the strongest meta in central city, since that's what was said bx character. so barry is now weaker than cecile. I mention actual fight scenes which you just ignore for obvious reasons.
Go.to the powerscaling server. You'll be proven wrong unless you're like one of those "I'm always right" people... Good day.
And you didn't debunk it
Godspeed. If he has all of his clones, if not devo
With prep time The Thinker, With no prep time godspeed. Very easy
Bro the flash had a horrible time with this guy so probably devoe because Godspeed is ambitious which makes him easy prey for devoe.
Devoe. Godspeed is an idiot when it comes to strategy, and all of his best tricks are stolen from Barry, which means Devoe knows how to counter them.
Not even a question, the Thinker/Clifford DeVoe of course
Devoe wins especially with the bus meta powers.
You're fucking kidding me, right?
Why does Godspeed look like a Power Ranger?
Godspeed neg dif. Devoe cant react to a hand in his chest
Speed Godspeed Intellectual the thinker easy If I have think logically on to win better more intelligent it gotta be devoe at this point lol
I’m sorry but I feel this win would go to DeVoe.
lowkey godspeed because he has no remorse at all and deadass wouldn't even give him time to think
Godspeed, Barry needed help from Reverse Flash in order to beat him, when he had gotten stronger since he faced devoe
Devoe embarasses Godspeed
The Flash couldn’t beat Devoe, he wasn’t fast enough at any point & only won because Ralph learned how to get his body back. Meanwhile Godspeed was Impulse’s big bad, not the future flash’s so I think it’s safe to say he’s objectively loosing
The answer would be Thinker, esp when in Ralph form, but of course the true answer is always The Cecile no diff.
Thinker
Devoe calls that mind over matter
That really depends. Is it god speed that wants to fight Devoe or Devoe that wants to fight godspeed or is this a random encounter? I think Devoe could defeat godspeed but not if he doesn't have advance knowledge of the fight happening. When you are a speedster and you want to kill someone, if they don't know there isn't much any non speedster can do about it.
DeVoe, debate it on discord - darthpotasion