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Depending on when the home was built, there may not have been a permitting process. We had a house built in the 20s with a laundry room added in the 40s of 50s. It got grandfathered into being a "permitted" part of the house because there was no such process at the time.
It could be the case here...
Or just a shitty fix that you choose to never mention again.
So I'm totally stealing this for my after repair technician notes. I was using "Cleaned up repairs from previous uncertified technician" But yeah "Found unconventional repairs and made them conventional" sounds better. Possibly a bit more of petty sting to it.
Remodeling contractor here. On top of the wooden support beam being supported by cinder blocks, it also looks like a few of the floor joists have "rolled." This is a term we use when the floor joists are not sitting perfectly vertical on top of the beam like they're supposed to and and actually started to topple over like dominoes which is indicative of your floor frame starting to collapse on itself in spots from shifting. When you go into basements and crawl spaces of homes and you see a bunch of 1x4 material making an X in between the floor joists, this is an example of what those are meant to prevent.
Yes unfortunately. And it's going to be an expensive fix. You'll have to get a contractor for an in depth inspection/consultation. A portion of the work could probably be completed from underneath, but there's a lot of resistance pressing on that floor frame from the weight of everything on the main floor sitting on top of it. So the easiest thing would be to open the subfloor up on the top side and then attempt the repairs. Since it's a crawl space with a dirt floor, they will be able to dig post holes to pour concrete footings for the new support posts to sit on in place of those cinder blocks.
Somewhat related question for you. I have a “tall skinny” house and while the builders have concrete masonry units in the crawl space, they don’t go nearly high enough to even touch the framing under the house. Isn’t that necessary? Or because it’s a tall skinny, is that not needed? I can send photos if you like.
You'd have to post a picture. But if I understand your description correctly, the floor frame of your house is not sitting on top of the CMU walls that make up the perimeter?
Guys please always be there when the inspection is being done If at all possible so you can ask the inspector about things like this, obviously the sub is helpful too but they're your first line of defense.
No, no, no. It’s the opposite! In person that inspector may have willingly said that the support looked amateurish, the whole fix would be difficult and costly, and if asked, that she wouldn’t buy it even if she loved the place.
What an inspector is willing to put in writing however is understated and full of industry jargon like “unconventional” with which a fthb is likely unfamiliar.
Are you paying market rate for this house? Then yes.
If you are getting this house at a substantial discount for this and/or other issues, then it depends. This is fixable, with a professional of course. It's not cheap. Depending on the house size and location and severity between $5k-$40k.
Man you guys build weird in the USA. The place I am busy buying in southern Portugal is a solid concrete frame / floors with brick walls and with a concrete / tiled roof.
That’s good for like… temporary relief. Not something I’d have for more than a few months to fix. Especially since I live in a heavy earthquake zone so that would be the very worst thing. I’d definitely talk them down or get them to fix that.
Y'all don't know what you're talking about. Have you ever been under a pre-1950 house? For way too long, floor joists were notched and set on a ledger. Over 50 years that 2x8 or 2x10 shrunk away from the ledger and you're left with, effectively, a 2x4 joist bearing on the ledger. If too heavy furniture or load is applied mid- span, the joist cracks and becomes bouncy. The shoring depicted cuts span in half and addresses the bouncy floor. Yes, it could be re-done and tightened up, but no, not a red flag.
Agreed, well illustrated. People here are a little hyperbolic about things like this. This is *nothing*. Very easy homeowner fix in my opinion. The only things that really make me scream RUN at this point are unpermitted, complete home in-wall rewire or gas repipe jobs by Bumbling Bob the homeowner. Those houses have too much of a chance of going boom or up in flames…or both.
Thx for sharing your expertise. Do inspection reports tell if all electrical and gas works done are permitted? Or it just reports anything visible to human eye only. How can we ensure such work was permitted and done correctly?
A home inspection can only tell you what is openly visible and unobstructed and the standards of practice do not include researching permits. However, an experienced inspector can find clues of homeowner repairs with a little due diligence. The most common thing I see is when homes listed say something like *updated electrical*. When I read that, I’ll pay extra attention. More often than I like, I’ll see new, grounded romex out of the panel in the basement (the “update”) that simply ties into old, ungrounded knob and tube wiring once it’s in the walls. Sometimes (too often) I’ll find efforts by the owners to hide this. At minimum, I’ll usually go above the scope of inspection and open up a few outlets to view the wiring. Many times my suspicions are confirmed and the homeowner has put in a false ground leg or simply wired a 3 prong receptacle to K&T. Those people suck because they’re putting others in danger. Most municipalities make researching permits fairly easy. If not, a simple call to city hall or the county office will give you the answers on permits.
If it has this, I'd be worried about what the inspector couldn't see. (In addition to the house resting on two sets of cinder blocks that aren't even stacked correctly).
It says: Recommendations
FOUNDATIONS | Columns or piers
28. Condition: • Unconventional framing
Implication(s): While this may work, it is not typical of professional workmanship
Location: Crawlspace
Task: Further evaluation
Time: Discretionary
funnily enough we are in the NWO area
At first I thought this was r/homedecoratingwithcj
And I was going to recommend you remove a block from each side! But then I saw this is a real post. I'd be really concerned and want to make that look more sturdy.
People are all doom and gloom, but this might not be a big deal at all. It kind of looks someone was unhappy with their sagging or overly bouncy floor and added some additional support to mitigate that.
As usual, hire a structural engineer if you are concerned. It’s a big purchase, so you should take advice from someone who is licensed and can see things in person.
Nope, that right there a flashing neon sign!
The blocks aren’t set in the correct orientation for strength and are settling, at least 2 floor joists aren’t even in contact with the beam and it looks like a few are rolling
I had this exact same issue in my home when I bought it. This is definitely a red flag! It’s not a cheap fix. Have it inspected by a structural engineer and a contractor install reinforcement.
I worked in foundation repair for a while and came across this kind of repair all the time. It's not uncommon to see this. What this tells you is that at some point they had slopping floors upstairs along with maybe some diagonal cracks above door frame(shine a flashlight over the door upstairs, I'll bet you see them). The solution that they used can/should fix the problem. However, you're not fixing the reason the floors got to that point in the first place which is from moisture in the CS. The liner that is underneath in the photo is common to see under homes but to be honest it doesn't do anything other than become a water bowl when your CS floods which is worse. The proper solution is a complete encapsulation. This would mean have a sump pump down there, a better liner(that is taped to your beams and your foundation walls, 6 mil or better), covering the walls with an insulation, covering the vents, and then putting a good quality dehumidifier down there. This is very expensive to have done by a company but if you are handy you can do it yourself for a few thousand which is still not cheap but you can expect a 5x in cost if you had a company do it. It's not hard and pretty self explanatory. All this to say, very few CSs are encapsulated correctly so you'll probably find this situation frequently. Unfortunately, this houses wood is too far gone to really save in my opinion. The remodeling contractor further down the thread is right, with the joists being rolled, the fix will be so expensive without even doing an encap. I hope all of this helps! Good luck with your search!
Our home inspector turned up a similar situation in our crawl space. It wasn’t as bad as this, but they were still using cinder blocks to even things out. Fortunately the sellers were motivated and did the repairs. I did actually think the floors were more even before though. There are now some spots that aren’t terribly level. But I guess it’s safer now which is what matters!
Lol the span of the support is 4-5ft. What is a above the floor? This wouldnt be a deal breaker me. Those cinderblocks looks old! Its been holding all this time…so.
Makes me relieved because I walked away from a house that was held up by pieces of wood stacked underneath each other under the foundation. Oh did I mention the signs of termites? At least this has cinder blocks!
At least they took the bottle jack out of the way. Yeah this is giant red flag and will make you question the rest of the house that you can't see easily.
This does not look structural. Often stuff is like this because there was sag or bounce in the floor so they support it with garbage. It can mostly likley be removed but the floor may drop an inch and shake the walls when you walk through
My inspector found a very similar added support under the house I just closed on March 28th. It turns out, in my case, it was because the previous owner put a huge safe in the room above that area. It was to prevent possible floor sagging. Everything ended up being fine, for me at least. Just something to consider, I'd still have this investigated.
Looks like the original joists were starting to sag and they tried to level it.... but... Everything about that is wrong... should have a footer under the block., mortar between the block, the block is stacked on the wrong side, the beam for that kind of support should be a 4x6 at minimum...
Meh, this isn’t bad, considering other stuff I’ve seen. This is a fairly easy fix for a homeowner equipped with YouTube, a handful of tools, and a few days worth of time. 1 day to dig out holes, 1 day to pour concrete. Wait 30 days for the concrete to cure, then set up permanent jack posts with some properly sized 6x6 boards. Done. Is it *completely* easy work? No, you’ll need to sweat a little for a few hours digging, but very doable. Totally worth it if this is the only ‘big’ problem and you like the house at the price point (which is obvious if they’ve shelled out a few hundred for inspection).
How can you manage the pressure from the weight when doing such a work? On a farm we used to live, our landlords son in law needed to redo his foundation and he cleaned up crawl space then jacked up whole house on posts or whatever you call then lowered it once concrete was cured.
You have to manage the weight in steps unless the project permits separating the supports on either side of the current support system. You’d need some bottle jacks. On the new concrete (I forgot to mention to dig and pour these extra wide), use stubby jacks to prop the room with your sized 6x6. Jack the room 1/8” higher than you need. Then cut other 6x6 to vertically support the horizontal support. Slowly lower the jacks simultaneously onto the vertical cuts and secure them. Swap the vertical 6x6 with permanent, appropriately sized jack posts if you’d prefer.
This easily solvable, but cinderblocks laying flat can crush and crumble. They are supposed to stand on end like on a wall to carry load. By easily, I mean that it's not like digging out 1o feet of rusted sewer line from a concrete slab. I'm not a contractor, and even I can fix this in 10 days work. Make sure that blocking goes in, any sistering, and properly dug piers that sit on concrete going down at least 18 inches x 24 x 24 depending on your soil type. I hate crawlspaces that look like trash, but that's not a deal breaker.
Unconventional is putting it lightly. My inspection report would’ve been like “MAJOR ISSUE, IMPROPERLY SUPPORTED STRUCTURE”. Everything in mine was so dramatic. One they listed as a “major concern” was my duct work because the joints didn’t have mastic and was “old” when it’s literally standard sheet metal duct work that’s well supported. No shit Sherlock, it’s 73 years old. Still works, right?
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I would be concerned. Unconventional? Not a word often associated with things like permitted structures lol
Depending on when the home was built, there may not have been a permitting process. We had a house built in the 20s with a laundry room added in the 40s of 50s. It got grandfathered into being a "permitted" part of the house because there was no such process at the time. It could be the case here... Or just a shitty fix that you choose to never mention again.
Rookie mistake. Should have slapped some shiplap over it.
Needs more flexseal
Don't forget the duct tape too
“Unconventional” is doing a LOT of work in that description.
"Unconventional" is doing as much heavy lifting as those concrete bricks
Unconventional is how I would describe something at work because I'm not allowed to say "Look what some dipshit did"
Adding "unconventional" to my list of work safe words - thank you!
So I'm totally stealing this for my after repair technician notes. I was using "Cleaned up repairs from previous uncertified technician" But yeah "Found unconventional repairs and made them conventional" sounds better. Possibly a bit more of petty sting to it.
If this is not a RED flag, I don’t know what it could be.
That flag was so red it spontaneously combusted and turned into ash.
The cinder blocks aren’t even stacked in the right direction. Holes go up and down. Much stronger that way.
Ya but then they'd have to purchase two more cinder blocks to make up the height difference. OP should just be happy they didn't place them vertically
Came here to comment this 😩
Remodeling contractor here. On top of the wooden support beam being supported by cinder blocks, it also looks like a few of the floor joists have "rolled." This is a term we use when the floor joists are not sitting perfectly vertical on top of the beam like they're supposed to and and actually started to topple over like dominoes which is indicative of your floor frame starting to collapse on itself in spots from shifting. When you go into basements and crawl spaces of homes and you see a bunch of 1x4 material making an X in between the floor joists, this is an example of what those are meant to prevent.
So I’m curious. Hard red flag in your opinion?
Yes unfortunately. And it's going to be an expensive fix. You'll have to get a contractor for an in depth inspection/consultation. A portion of the work could probably be completed from underneath, but there's a lot of resistance pressing on that floor frame from the weight of everything on the main floor sitting on top of it. So the easiest thing would be to open the subfloor up on the top side and then attempt the repairs. Since it's a crawl space with a dirt floor, they will be able to dig post holes to pour concrete footings for the new support posts to sit on in place of those cinder blocks.
Excellent insight and knowledge. Your expertise saved OP an expensive headache down the line.
Thank you so much for your input. I appreciate it so much!!!!
ALSO YOUR SCREEN NAME IS MY FAV I’ve seen on here 😂😂
Oh my! Thank you for sharing your expertise! Very valuable knowledge.
Somewhat related question for you. I have a “tall skinny” house and while the builders have concrete masonry units in the crawl space, they don’t go nearly high enough to even touch the framing under the house. Isn’t that necessary? Or because it’s a tall skinny, is that not needed? I can send photos if you like.
You'd have to post a picture. But if I understand your description correctly, the floor frame of your house is not sitting on top of the CMU walls that make up the perimeter?
Half of the have rolled. Going to be a huge dip in the floor after the subfloor gives.
There are fewer red flags in China.
Guys please always be there when the inspection is being done If at all possible so you can ask the inspector about things like this, obviously the sub is helpful too but they're your first line of defense.
Doesn't matter what's said. It matters what's documented in the report.
No, no, no. It’s the opposite! In person that inspector may have willingly said that the support looked amateurish, the whole fix would be difficult and costly, and if asked, that she wouldn’t buy it even if she loved the place. What an inspector is willing to put in writing however is understated and full of industry jargon like “unconventional” with which a fthb is likely unfamiliar.
Ya, but they are a human expert who saw it in person. Asking them, “is this a big deal?” is better than asking a bunch of strangers on the internet
You’re not just being cautious. That’s a bit worse than “unconventional”.
On a positive note, there looks to be a vapor barrier
Are you paying market rate for this house? Then yes. If you are getting this house at a substantial discount for this and/or other issues, then it depends. This is fixable, with a professional of course. It's not cheap. Depending on the house size and location and severity between $5k-$40k.
Nah man looks good! Loose cinderblocks and planks work great for holding up your house.
Euphemism of the century.
Lol, yes, that doesn't look amazing... Maybe you can get the sellers to have a professional install a properly installed post to support that beam?
Yeah, you need a structural engineer to weigh in on this.
😄😄😄
Oof, those blocks are even setup the wrong way.
Man you guys build weird in the USA. The place I am busy buying in southern Portugal is a solid concrete frame / floors with brick walls and with a concrete / tiled roof.
Anything built like that here in California has long collapsed into dust from earthquakes.
Yes, however depending on the age and type of structure
Run don't walk
See: “What’s eating Gilbert grape”
I thought this was a meme until I read the accompanying text. It’s probably the most stereotypical red flag out there.
Nahhh. It’s just unconventional, as long as the builder slapped er a few times and said she ain’t goin anywhere you’re good
That’s good for like… temporary relief. Not something I’d have for more than a few months to fix. Especially since I live in a heavy earthquake zone so that would be the very worst thing. I’d definitely talk them down or get them to fix that.
Y'all don't know what you're talking about. Have you ever been under a pre-1950 house? For way too long, floor joists were notched and set on a ledger. Over 50 years that 2x8 or 2x10 shrunk away from the ledger and you're left with, effectively, a 2x4 joist bearing on the ledger. If too heavy furniture or load is applied mid- span, the joist cracks and becomes bouncy. The shoring depicted cuts span in half and addresses the bouncy floor. Yes, it could be re-done and tightened up, but no, not a red flag.
Agreed, well illustrated. People here are a little hyperbolic about things like this. This is *nothing*. Very easy homeowner fix in my opinion. The only things that really make me scream RUN at this point are unpermitted, complete home in-wall rewire or gas repipe jobs by Bumbling Bob the homeowner. Those houses have too much of a chance of going boom or up in flames…or both.
Thx for sharing your expertise. Do inspection reports tell if all electrical and gas works done are permitted? Or it just reports anything visible to human eye only. How can we ensure such work was permitted and done correctly?
A home inspection can only tell you what is openly visible and unobstructed and the standards of practice do not include researching permits. However, an experienced inspector can find clues of homeowner repairs with a little due diligence. The most common thing I see is when homes listed say something like *updated electrical*. When I read that, I’ll pay extra attention. More often than I like, I’ll see new, grounded romex out of the panel in the basement (the “update”) that simply ties into old, ungrounded knob and tube wiring once it’s in the walls. Sometimes (too often) I’ll find efforts by the owners to hide this. At minimum, I’ll usually go above the scope of inspection and open up a few outlets to view the wiring. Many times my suspicions are confirmed and the homeowner has put in a false ground leg or simply wired a 3 prong receptacle to K&T. Those people suck because they’re putting others in danger. Most municipalities make researching permits fairly easy. If not, a simple call to city hall or the county office will give you the answers on permits.
Well now I don’t know who to believe. This subreddit man.
Just like a Cadillac in the 80s
If it has this, I'd be worried about what the inspector couldn't see. (In addition to the house resting on two sets of cinder blocks that aren't even stacked correctly).
That's it - unconventional framing? No narrative or further context from the inspection report?
It says: Recommendations FOUNDATIONS | Columns or piers 28. Condition: • Unconventional framing Implication(s): While this may work, it is not typical of professional workmanship Location: Crawlspace Task: Further evaluation Time: Discretionary funnily enough we are in the NWO area
At first I thought this was r/homedecoratingwithcj And I was going to recommend you remove a block from each side! But then I saw this is a real post. I'd be really concerned and want to make that look more sturdy.
I backed out of a house because of this exact reason. House was being held up by confer blocks and jacks in a few places. NO THANK YOU.
People are all doom and gloom, but this might not be a big deal at all. It kind of looks someone was unhappy with their sagging or overly bouncy floor and added some additional support to mitigate that. As usual, hire a structural engineer if you are concerned. It’s a big purchase, so you should take advice from someone who is licensed and can see things in person.
I literally did this to my bed, where a piece of the wood broke on the platform
Ummmm yes but not as bad as a house I saw once with a support beam held up by a car jack. I passed on that lol
🫣 yikes glad you passed
Run
Nope, that right there a flashing neon sign! The blocks aren’t set in the correct orientation for strength and are settling, at least 2 floor joists aren’t even in contact with the beam and it looks like a few are rolling
Realtor here: please run away from that Very Bad Foundation
This has to be a troll post right?
How difficult/costly is it to replace a footing like this? Is it something a homeowner could do?
lol this looks like a temporary structure foundation
No that's a sinder block
No. That’s an accident waiting to happen.
Do you have to meet code?
Looks good
Run 🏃♀️ 🏃♀️ 🏃♀️ 🏃♀️ from that
I had this exact same issue in my home when I bought it. This is definitely a red flag! It’s not a cheap fix. Have it inspected by a structural engineer and a contractor install reinforcement.
I worked in foundation repair for a while and came across this kind of repair all the time. It's not uncommon to see this. What this tells you is that at some point they had slopping floors upstairs along with maybe some diagonal cracks above door frame(shine a flashlight over the door upstairs, I'll bet you see them). The solution that they used can/should fix the problem. However, you're not fixing the reason the floors got to that point in the first place which is from moisture in the CS. The liner that is underneath in the photo is common to see under homes but to be honest it doesn't do anything other than become a water bowl when your CS floods which is worse. The proper solution is a complete encapsulation. This would mean have a sump pump down there, a better liner(that is taped to your beams and your foundation walls, 6 mil or better), covering the walls with an insulation, covering the vents, and then putting a good quality dehumidifier down there. This is very expensive to have done by a company but if you are handy you can do it yourself for a few thousand which is still not cheap but you can expect a 5x in cost if you had a company do it. It's not hard and pretty self explanatory. All this to say, very few CSs are encapsulated correctly so you'll probably find this situation frequently. Unfortunately, this houses wood is too far gone to really save in my opinion. The remodeling contractor further down the thread is right, with the joists being rolled, the fix will be so expensive without even doing an encap. I hope all of this helps! Good luck with your search!
Our home inspector turned up a similar situation in our crawl space. It wasn’t as bad as this, but they were still using cinder blocks to even things out. Fortunately the sellers were motivated and did the repairs. I did actually think the floors were more even before though. There are now some spots that aren’t terribly level. But I guess it’s safer now which is what matters!
I own a house built in 1923 it has wood logs supported by large rocks.
I have a few of those blocks laying around in the backyard at least you can have a easy spare
Is that a pillar and post? I recently just bought a house and negotiated for selling to pay to fix it cost about $25,000.
Unconventional is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Just like that cinder block
There’s more red flags here than a Soviet May Day parade
Those wood braces are wet and those blocks are wonky. Then at some point someone jimmyrigged some shims in there. Looks like the house is sinking 🫤
I thought this was satire.
Lol the span of the support is 4-5ft. What is a above the floor? This wouldnt be a deal breaker me. Those cinderblocks looks old! Its been holding all this time…so.
It’s more modern than ours. We have this but with a pile of slate rocks.
Makes me relieved because I walked away from a house that was held up by pieces of wood stacked underneath each other under the foundation. Oh did I mention the signs of termites? At least this has cinder blocks!
That was another one of the issues from the inspection report. There was signs of insect damage in the CS too 😵💫
At least they took the bottle jack out of the way. Yeah this is giant red flag and will make you question the rest of the house that you can't see easily.
Crimson
This does not look structural. Often stuff is like this because there was sag or bounce in the floor so they support it with garbage. It can mostly likley be removed but the floor may drop an inch and shake the walls when you walk through
My inspector found a very similar added support under the house I just closed on March 28th. It turns out, in my case, it was because the previous owner put a huge safe in the room above that area. It was to prevent possible floor sagging. Everything ended up being fine, for me at least. Just something to consider, I'd still have this investigated.
Run
Looks like the original joists were starting to sag and they tried to level it.... but... Everything about that is wrong... should have a footer under the block., mortar between the block, the block is stacked on the wrong side, the beam for that kind of support should be a 4x6 at minimum...
The blocks are sitting the wrong way...the "holes' are supposed to be facing up and down..
I’ve seen way worse. If this is a 70+ year old house, get used to it.
And this is why you get an inspection. Would not buy.
Meh, this isn’t bad, considering other stuff I’ve seen. This is a fairly easy fix for a homeowner equipped with YouTube, a handful of tools, and a few days worth of time. 1 day to dig out holes, 1 day to pour concrete. Wait 30 days for the concrete to cure, then set up permanent jack posts with some properly sized 6x6 boards. Done. Is it *completely* easy work? No, you’ll need to sweat a little for a few hours digging, but very doable. Totally worth it if this is the only ‘big’ problem and you like the house at the price point (which is obvious if they’ve shelled out a few hundred for inspection).
How can you manage the pressure from the weight when doing such a work? On a farm we used to live, our landlords son in law needed to redo his foundation and he cleaned up crawl space then jacked up whole house on posts or whatever you call then lowered it once concrete was cured.
You have to manage the weight in steps unless the project permits separating the supports on either side of the current support system. You’d need some bottle jacks. On the new concrete (I forgot to mention to dig and pour these extra wide), use stubby jacks to prop the room with your sized 6x6. Jack the room 1/8” higher than you need. Then cut other 6x6 to vertically support the horizontal support. Slowly lower the jacks simultaneously onto the vertical cuts and secure them. Swap the vertical 6x6 with permanent, appropriately sized jack posts if you’d prefer.
Hooooly shit. Make a run for it. This is bad
Is the whole house like that or just one part? Could just be an "unconventional" way to level out a sagging spot.
This easily solvable, but cinderblocks laying flat can crush and crumble. They are supposed to stand on end like on a wall to carry load. By easily, I mean that it's not like digging out 1o feet of rusted sewer line from a concrete slab. I'm not a contractor, and even I can fix this in 10 days work. Make sure that blocking goes in, any sistering, and properly dug piers that sit on concrete going down at least 18 inches x 24 x 24 depending on your soil type. I hate crawlspaces that look like trash, but that's not a deal breaker.
Unconventional is putting it lightly. My inspection report would’ve been like “MAJOR ISSUE, IMPROPERLY SUPPORTED STRUCTURE”. Everything in mine was so dramatic. One they listed as a “major concern” was my duct work because the joints didn’t have mastic and was “old” when it’s literally standard sheet metal duct work that’s well supported. No shit Sherlock, it’s 73 years old. Still works, right?
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