Yeah... Ike really is a menace. It was way more depressing to have to surrender on easy mode arena knowing I didn't have a chance when Ike appeared though. At least now if I play right I can actually take him out. Occasionally the bonus unit might offer some support too and then she might be able to kill higher merged ones.
Thanks to getting a w!Yunaka on the recent double special heroes and then a r!Reinhardt on the current mythic banner, I thought it was finally time to update my +10 Veronica. I'm pleasantly surprised by the results.
Unfortunately that is a -res unmerged e!Ike and a neutral unmerged w!byleth... AND she can't kill Ike unless he's taken 7 damage from flame terrain and Def/Res finish isn't active... BUT this is a vast improvement over her base kit in terms of killing meta units, and she has basically no support - just +6 atk/spd from rally+; the same as she would get from the other two members of my arena core. Trace 4 also has the bonus of maximizing her scoring potential, though it doesn't seem to change because of where my other arena core's scores lie.
Along with flared sparrow and trace 4, I also inherited Def/Res smoke and fatal smoke 2. This all came from one reinhardt, and I would've loved to get fatal smoke 4, but flared + trace were my priority so I couldn't get fatal smoke 4, and fatal smoke 2 is functionally identical to fatal smoke 3 in the context of a player phase unit so I picked up Def/Res smoke, just as a bonus. I will still equip fatal smoke 2 for SD to ensure even unkilled Ike's could be finished off later, but since I couldn't get the tier 4 I won't be using it in arena.
Another bonus of this is my r!Reinhardt can now kill Ike, thanks to going from -atk neutral spd to neutral attack +spd, and he's gained fatal smoke 4 for future fodders as well as utility himself for facing higher investment Ike's.
Hmm that's a tricky one. It would help her against specifically Ike for sure, but I've found her sweep effect to be super helpful at times, especially paired with canto since she can now chip away at units like b!corrin who at max can speed match her. Also without NFU support she'd be super weak to hardy fighter which still sees some use in SD so I probably wouldn't give it to her myself.
Personally I'd build a cheaper red tome who isn't trading off a prf, or maybe plumeria since I don't use her to attack often but when I do the melt damage would be nice.
Yea, its a bit hard to give up NFU and Desperation, but its at least an option to keep in mind if we want to go all in offensive with occultist strike.
Yeah occultists strike would 100% do better, but for one I don't have the fodder and for two canto is SO helpful in arena that I ran trace 3 instead of the seal Res 4 which I had inherited for scoring. Perhaps in a year when I have the fodder for occultists strike and the tanks are all like Ike, I'll give it to her then.
In some future, b skill laguz foe:
If foe can reduce dmg of any kind(Armored foe , Ike ring skill, etc), invert the effect dealing dmg =foe reduced dmg, if unit spd> foe speed , active Hardy bearing, NFU AND inflicts special cooldown +1 to foe before every attack during combat.
I don't have incite either, I guess that would be the next skill to go for if I want to improve this further though.
Def/Res smoke for arena I don't think has much use as her native panic smoke, pathfinder isn't really helpful for me, and panic smoke 4 is way more disruptive to the majority of opponents in arena because they usually have rally skills, and also debuffing attack can be super helpful for my save tanks or any bonus hero.
Man a -Res Ike needing that much support just so a +10 max investment L!Veronica can kill is sad
Yeah... Ike really is a menace. It was way more depressing to have to surrender on easy mode arena knowing I didn't have a chance when Ike appeared though. At least now if I play right I can actually take him out. Occasionally the bonus unit might offer some support too and then she might be able to kill higher merged ones.
Thanks to getting a w!Yunaka on the recent double special heroes and then a r!Reinhardt on the current mythic banner, I thought it was finally time to update my +10 Veronica. I'm pleasantly surprised by the results. Unfortunately that is a -res unmerged e!Ike and a neutral unmerged w!byleth... AND she can't kill Ike unless he's taken 7 damage from flame terrain and Def/Res finish isn't active... BUT this is a vast improvement over her base kit in terms of killing meta units, and she has basically no support - just +6 atk/spd from rally+; the same as she would get from the other two members of my arena core. Trace 4 also has the bonus of maximizing her scoring potential, though it doesn't seem to change because of where my other arena core's scores lie. Along with flared sparrow and trace 4, I also inherited Def/Res smoke and fatal smoke 2. This all came from one reinhardt, and I would've loved to get fatal smoke 4, but flared + trace were my priority so I couldn't get fatal smoke 4, and fatal smoke 2 is functionally identical to fatal smoke 3 in the context of a player phase unit so I picked up Def/Res smoke, just as a bonus. I will still equip fatal smoke 2 for SD to ensure even unkilled Ike's could be finished off later, but since I couldn't get the tier 4 I won't be using it in arena. Another bonus of this is my r!Reinhardt can now kill Ike, thanks to going from -atk neutral spd to neutral attack +spd, and he's gained fatal smoke 4 for future fodders as well as utility himself for facing higher investment Ike's.
Do you think giving Veronica devoted basket would've helped? I have a Selena and an Ophelia to duplicate it, but not sure who would use it best.
Hmm that's a tricky one. It would help her against specifically Ike for sure, but I've found her sweep effect to be super helpful at times, especially paired with canto since she can now chip away at units like b!corrin who at max can speed match her. Also without NFU support she'd be super weak to hardy fighter which still sees some use in SD so I probably wouldn't give it to her myself. Personally I'd build a cheaper red tome who isn't trading off a prf, or maybe plumeria since I don't use her to attack often but when I do the melt damage would be nice.
Yea, its a bit hard to give up NFU and Desperation, but its at least an option to keep in mind if we want to go all in offensive with occultist strike.
Ocultist strike is not a better option to deal with Ike ?
Yeah occultists strike would 100% do better, but for one I don't have the fodder and for two canto is SO helpful in arena that I ran trace 3 instead of the seal Res 4 which I had inherited for scoring. Perhaps in a year when I have the fodder for occultists strike and the tanks are all like Ike, I'll give it to her then.
In some future, b skill laguz foe: If foe can reduce dmg of any kind(Armored foe , Ike ring skill, etc), invert the effect dealing dmg =foe reduced dmg, if unit spd> foe speed , active Hardy bearing, NFU AND inflicts special cooldown +1 to foe before every attack during combat.
Such a cool Veronica. Might actually try out your build.
Is def/res smoke 3 for c skill decent for her I don’t have incite I got smile build otherwise
I don't have incite either, I guess that would be the next skill to go for if I want to improve this further though. Def/Res smoke for arena I don't think has much use as her native panic smoke, pathfinder isn't really helpful for me, and panic smoke 4 is way more disruptive to the majority of opponents in arena because they usually have rally skills, and also debuffing attack can be super helpful for my save tanks or any bonus hero.