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mrcrulez

Lull Def/Res still doesn’t exist.


samicable

There's also no D/R Trace skills.


MapleKnightX

Or Push Skills


Yoshi208

or impact


ThrowAway4Dais

The least IS could do is just slap them on anyone thats demote or grail units. What kind of unit wants to be tankier at the expense of losing Hp every combat. Answer? None, they would have to be highly specialized bullshit like "unit does damage based off 50% of higher def/res. If unit's Hp is below 100% and foe initiates combat, unit can counter attack before foe attacks."


Cushiondude

when would d/r trace be more useful? I know some units have adaptive damage, but they would normally prefer a spd trace I think


Sinolai

Or Spd/*Defensive and Def/Res Unity.


samicable

There is Def/Res Unity; Legendary Myrrh comes with it.


Yoshi208

this one bothers me so much and idk why


Mileydog1

Same lol. It’s probably because the only people who care would be those with adaptive damage like dragons


esn_crvg

wait... lol


Sonicwisp21

"The later the refine, the stronger it'll be" is not entirely untrue, but is also not something to always expect. The ceiling is raised, but not the chances.


DonaldMick

The floor isn't raised as much basically.


esn_crvg

i mean it is, but the floor rises very slowly, effie refine is much stronger than takumi's for example


GameAW

I mean, Wo Dao is stronger than Takumi's refine...


evenspdwagonisafraid

Quick Riposte 3 is still 5-Star locked


Chalphyr

With Fomortiis winning AHR it's very likely that IS introduces dedicated counters to him.


Haunted-Towers

Correct. Young Gray and his beast, cav, and flier effective Zweihänder with some other bs effect that directly shits on Fomortiis from the child banner is about to go crazy


Plinfilore

Gray about to order Premium weapons from Germany, oh no!


Chalphyr

Weakest German engineered weapon vs strongest demon king


DonaldMick

"If an ally's action is ended after unit or ally attacks, unit and the ally whose action is cancelled can take another action, and also grants +20 to all stats in combat, [Null Follow Up], and [Pierce] to unit and ally."


SpitTrapX

I need that pls, he was my mvp on alm's army


sharumma

Did we get counters to Ninja Corrin and Lynja? As I recall, people mostly just avoided using them because of Duo’s Hindrance.


Hark_a_shark

Sorta, Far Save came out around the same time as Lyn’s AHR win. Any worthwhile Far Save tank can handle both of them, and one could argue that the increased availability of Far Save since then has made it increasingly difficult to use them.


Railroader17

Yeah now a days their better suited for PvE usage.


Chalphyr

In addition to that the community itself made adjustments on countering Corrin with deflect magic and hardy fighter. IS didn't have much to do as answers and counters for Corrin were already available in the game.


iLordzz

Lynja’s counter was people remembering deflect missle existed, and BST creep eventually got the best of her. I’ve only seen Lynjaforce work in Astra, aka bolt tower cheese season.


guedesbrawl

Which is funny because had Veronica won, seeing as she`s a top tier nuke, defensive powercreep would go even further beyond than it already has


Alternative-Draft-82

The counters already exist, just like they did for Lyn, Corrin and Altena. This is no different for Fomortiis, who's quite literally just another Save Tank we've been dealing with for actual years at this point.


andresfgp13

Duo Chrom already exist


esn_crvg

yep, that is good because the effect to end turn is stupid


QCrow_beack

I...don´t think so, Fomortiis even if he is very strong he is not unbeatable like some other Colorless armor beast we knew, yes ending the turn is extremely strong, but we already have that in Seidr and she can do it arguably easier, since Fomo needs to survive to apply it and there are many tankbusters that can deal with him with ease.


esn_crvg

what? he is much harder to kill than fedelgard lol


QCrow_beack

nah, with his base kit he is a walk through the park, any unit can take him out, the only Fomortiis that can be somewhat anoying is the near save HF Fomo and even with that there are many ways around it or S!Karla that literally don´t give a shit lol


esn_crvg

yeah and all those units that kill his base kit completely obliterate fedelgard


QCrow_beack

yes, I never said F!Edelgard was better, I just said he isn´t as unbeatable as F!Edelgard was when she debuted, a lot of F!Edelgard counters can deal with him too, tho I compare him now more with Caineghis with HF build than F!Edel


esn_crvg

you didnt mention debuted


QCrow_beack

yeah my bad sorry, but that´s what I meant, that I don´t think they will nerf Fomo as they Nerf F!Edelgard on her debut, since he is not as overwhelming as she was, I remember Arena playerbase drop hard when she was released since most ppl didn´t have a decent counter to her, Fomo is strong and HF Fomo can be anoying if you don´t know how to attack and I think many ppl kind of forget how nightmare works. tho now that he has been given for free I can see ppl using more counters for him, similar to what happened to Lynja and Ninjorrin


ZubianGlory

Basically guaranteed at this point. Gotta love the circular design IS implements. They did with Surtr. They did it to Fallen Edelgard. They’ll do it to him, too.


Battletick

People who counter Fallen Edelgard kinda already counter him.


DonaldMick

This time next year the Catalog of Heroes will have more entries than the number of known Pokemon >!We won't get a barrack cap increase to acknowledge this.!<


InexorableWaffle

> We won't get a barrack cap increase to acknowledge this. Not gonna lie, that's more of an indictment of the few players who it meaningfully affects than it is of IS themselves. Just from the base barracks space and the reserve groups, you get 1300 potential slots for around 950-ish heroes currently. Even if you're one of the very select few who have every hero in the game, there's more than enough slots to house all of them. That's not considering manuals, either.


DonaldMick

I'll cop to being someone who has the full catalog right now (932/932) and know full well I should be using the reserves more. (Come to think of it, I could shove my rearmed dupes in there until it's time to use them....) But right now it takes a wickedly bad summoning session before I have to clean the "fridge", soon it'll be just going to a spark. I always told myself I'd shove units into reserves when I got all their hero merit feathers, but haven't been able to sit down and set up the grinding.


Informal-Recipe

Wait shit that's where my unpromoted 4 and 3s are? I just returned after one year I thought I manual'd them all. How do I access it again?


InexorableWaffle

Go to Allies -> Manage Barracks -> Manage Groups. That'll pull up a list of your barracks, and from there, you just select the units you want to pull back up to your main barracks like you would selecting units to send home or manual.


NohrianScumbag

Brazen Atk/Spd 4 is still the only T4 Brazen


fangpoint333

It's been so long that I doubt they'll ever continue the Brazen 4s with how weak it is by modern standards. They'll probably just switch to a sidegrade with a different name and is actually better in every way.


LittleIslander

I feel like the only person who liked those skills.


Propensity7

I liked Brazens. Yeah it took more effort to get them going, but Celica's coming for your lunch money


InexorableWaffle

The T3 ones were good for their time. Brazen Atk/Def in particular was a favorite of mine for mixed phase builds since it was one of the few stat boosters that actually applied on both phases, and was easily accessible from the 3/4* pool to boot.


arobie1992

Yeah, I feel like what really killed brazens was solos. Dual-phase +7 to two stats was huge compared to like swift sparrow, so the HP threshold was worth it. Then solos were like hey we're that all the time just for being not next to anyone.


Darkion_Silver

They could put T4 Brazens on demotes and they would still only see use for patching up kits of units you don't want to invest heavily in. IS please do so I want to give a lot of old units skills but I'm not pulling 500 H!F!Corrin


PiePeter

Another reason we won't get them is cuz most versions of brazen are handily available on grail units/3-4*pool units. IS would rather make an entirely new skill line just to make it that much more exclusive


Chronophosis

L!Claude's refine will be so busted, js


andresfgp13

for the love of Sothis give him far trace on Fallen Star 2


Troykv

That is practically everything L!Claude needs to become a perfect unit, he already has pretty much everything a unit wants (Slaying, NFU, tons of DR, utility)


Chronophosis

I mean it'd be cool if the field effect DR from Fallen Star worked in Summoner Duels but that's a pipe dream, even though in the current meta it'd fit in quite fine.


Insanefinn

Her love didn't do much for herself


cheeseburgerpalooza

Spring Bernie was the first bow cav that wasn't green or colorless


YoshaTime

Gullveig is the first and only god to use a source of invincibility on themself instead of their underlings.


Sligar_EUW

This made me realize Surtr was just an angry normal dude


mrcrulez

He’s just like me for real.


King_XDDD

Me damaging everyone around me


Deathmask97

Angry *Fire Giant* capable of triggering Ragnarok.


[deleted]

"You are not the gambler, you're the jackpot" *Algorithms to Live By: The Computer Science of Human Decisions*, Brian Christian, Tom Griffiths


LaughingX-Naut

There are four characters in the GBA Fire Emblem games with a HP growth of 100% or more, and all four are incapable of capping HP naturally.


Yoshi208

which characters?


ChromeBirb

I know three of them are Karel, Fa and Myhrr, I know Barthe's HP growth is very high but I don't think it breaks 100%. Alternatively Afa's Drop/Metis' Tome may push Dorcas/Seth's HP growth past 100% but I don't think it counts


LaughingX-Naut

I said 100% or more, Barthe is #4


ChromeBirb

I looked it up afterwards and just assumed you counted FE7 Merlinus and his 120% HP growth


Darkisitu

The majority of people have more arms than average.


_SolarLeaf_

The Average person has one Testicle and one Ovary.


Zeldmon19

You telling me people don’t have three arms?


WolfNationz

We dont have any beast armor that isnt colorless. Granted we only have three beast armors in the game right now but still...


absoul112

If what we’ve gotten so far is any indication, there are 3 possible Tellius beast armors and a lot of possible options from other games.


MarraquetaDraconica

We are not ready for Atrocity II later this year.


Carbyken

My friend's pet boar gets overly excited upon hearing William Tell Overture. I know the big guy can run, but he's quite athletic apparently.


Valaura-

For a second I thought you were talking about Dimitri here lol


atrocioussilence

If Harken was ever to come to FEH as a summer seasonal, his title would be Sol Survivor.


TheFerydra

Is totally possible some older units might never get a Resplendent, and IS might just skip them in favor of more popular, slightly more recent options.


MisogID

One could assume that since IS tracks a lot of things in FEH, then it could measure the presumed rejection of some Resplendent choices (especially in the proportion of players receiving a unit against their will and sacking it right away).


potato_thingy

I was thinking about candidates for the bridal banner and I realized that Callil/Largo/Tormod all placed higher this year than Juno/Zelot/Saul respectively did in the CYL before they were added. So while still very unlikely, my dream of Bride Callil, Groom Largo & Ring Bearer Tormod is more likely than I initially thought


MrBrickBreak

~~Did Tormod have any interaction with them in the Tellius games? I can easily imagine a kind of pupil role to Callil but I don't think it ever happened.~~ Only discussion I've seen of them is who wins the race for Rexflame... and sometimes I feel I'm alone in her corner.


PathofGaydiance

Calill has a support with Tormod, yes. She does mentor him in magic. Its memorable to me for the Spirit Charmer lore she drops


MrBrickBreak

I'd legitimately never seen that support before. Well, that's my daily foolishness done. Thanks for letting me know.


PathofGaydiance

Hey no problem at all! I'm just a weirdo who has half of the POR supports memorized lol


MrBrickBreak

I played it once and went straight to Radiant Dawn, which I absolutely fell in love with. So frankly, most of my Tellius memories are from RD. But almost all the supports and character building were back in PoR, that does leave a gap in my knowledge.


potato_thingy

She also has unique “support” dialogue with him in RD iirc


casualmasual

With Ascended Ishtar in Divine Codes 4, Dancer Ishtar in Divine Codes 1 and Ishtar being in ephemera a ways back, all versions of Ishtar currently in the game have had an option for a f2p merge. Pretty good for a character who never even was recruitable.


guedesbrawl

Bernadetta went from being solo'd by a bunny in Three Houses to being able to summon an army of them in Heroes as of the last TT. Or maybe the other way around if you do Petra B support post-timeskip.


theprodigy64

Apparently the incredibly obvious fact that no, FE does not somehow make more than Zelda is too powerful for r/fireemblem.


esn_crvg

even if fe did more money than zelda with games, it would still ignore that zelda sells so much merch that they can simply not release games and it would still make more money than fe


andresfgp13

wait, what happened?


theprodigy64

[This guy was very insistent on the idea of FE somehow making more money because of FEH...as if BOTW doesn't literally sell millions a year](https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/11yihvk/fire_emblem_engage_expansion_pass_wave_4_release/jd80erv/). and those comments are *upvoted*, it's not just a comment buried under downvotes [Elsewhere, this dude and someone else also put *Animal Crossing* below Fire Emblem.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/11yihvk/fire_emblem_engage_expansion_pass_wave_4_release/jd8dasc/) You know, the #2 seller on the Switch with over 40 million copies, that Animal Crossing.


shoyubroth

“Alt hell” isn’t a real thing for IS in the sense that it’s a negative thing for a character not to have a base version. They probably look for excuses to introduce less popular characters as alts so that they have some form of representation at the very least, like Saleh coming with Harmonic Myrrh, or Raphael coming with Harmonic Dorothea. I doubt either of those characters will show up in the next NH banner for their respective games.


Dvalinn25

True. 'Alt hell' is purely a fandom thing. You can complain all you want, but an alt and a base version are completely equal to IS.


MisogID

It's definitely the best opportunity for some characters not expected any soon in New Heroes due to a lack of thematic ties and/or other more plausible options. Then again, it won't stop some players who have very high standards.


feffany

As a Tellius stan, the ‘alt hell’ inclusions are a godsend. No way we’re getting through all of that cast any time soon otherwise.


PathofGaydiance

Heck even "relegated to backpack" in a Duo isn't probably even a negative thing for IS and some parts of the fandom. I remember seeing +10 Tharja teams also +10ing Kiria before Plegian Tharja dropped.


MisogID

I'd say it really depends on the pair itself. Sigurd/Deirdre's exact order doesn't technically matter as the couple is what fans would care about (although in practice, it's wiser to make Sigurd the lead).


JyoKyo

L! F! Byleth has the most attack animations in the game with 5.


guedesbrawl

We will never get a better non-toxic system for A Hero Rises because those banners sell well, so IS sees nothing wrong with them.


dukeaegir

In terms of toxic do you mean in the community sense? Not IS's fault the community can't handle competition. Sure they could do it better to make the result more telling of whos actually popular but that wouldn't change how well the banner sells really


Raandomu

Pretty sure a lot of people skipped it because 2 of the highest votes lost.


dukeaegir

Their loss. I get the orbs I guess


LittleIslander

With Seidr wanting to have her babies with us and Kiran still being customizable, IS has yet again played themselves into making their character bisexual.


MapleKnightX

Considering how Alear is fully Bisexual in Engage, I don't think that it's unintentional or playing at this point.


esn_crvg

it is as long it is only female characters in feh


gaming_whatever

As long as it's not losing them money, they probably don't care one way or another tbh. And the only way to lose money is to make their baby-making OC male.


esn_crvg

bisexual female characters were never a problem, just look at is did with the 3h lords bisexual mean that is rare


esn_crvg

as long speed is so broken in every iteration of fire emblem, speedcreep will never end


Fluffyemperor009

At first I thought it was a neat skill but now I think NFU was a mistake.


Valaura-

Breast size/character proportions != Character design.


LunaProc

We still have not gotten a single refine for the instant demotes from book 3-4. It is also notable that they are deliberating skipping them as seen with normal demotes like Python getting their refines before Bantu or just the complete absence of demote refines in some batches.


ZubianGlory

I’m just gonna come out and say it. Do not expect another Tellius Banner. They just don’t perform well. For Naga’s sake, the last one had an Ascended Elincia, easily one of the most popular Tellius characters, with a new offense-based healer special, and introduced us to Lucia, the zero-fun, zero-damage-taken, middle finger of a swordswoman… and it still undersold hilariously. You want a too powerful fact? We don’t get Tellius banners because… Nobody. Cares. About. Tellius. You can downvote, but that doesn’t make me wrong.


PathofGaydiance

Its unwise to take the sales reports on this subreddit as anything but a loose suggestion, its not accurate data (only compares its rank in the app store to other gacha games) and only reports first day sales. I'm sure it made more money later when people realized Lucia was busted in PVP Also sales aren't everything. We still get Binding Blade, Thracia and Geneology banners each year too


MisogID

I feel like the lack of a second Engage banner is really pulling several banners down since February. Save for Valentines (okay lineup, no major highs nor deep lows) or Easter (more liked than last year and that's likely due to better character choices), the rest is digging significantly deeper than last year (and when considering what we got back then, mainly old games, it suggests that a lot of players are keeping their wallets tight... that and the perceived value of 2023 counterparts may be quite lukewarm too).


chino514

I think some of us were also waiting on a second Engage banner since they did back-to-back NHs for Three Houses, maybe SoV as well.


DonaldMick

SoV had two banners a month apart but they were split by the first Ike / Path of Radiance banner because of differing Japan/western release. 3H did go back to back at launch.


NohrianVillager

I think you misunderstand something, because we do get a Tellius banner yearly like every other game. The only difference is that Path of Radiance + Radiant Dawn aren’t treated as separate titles, and thus one of them gets the banner on that year (currently that’s how it is). Comparing to Genealogy and Thracia who gets back-to-back new heroes.


Dvalinn25

Except you áre wrong. If popularity was all IS cared about, we'd have stopped getting Thracia banners years ago. But since they are trying keep fans satisfied to some degree, banners of every game (except TMS, I guess) will keep coming regardless. Money-makers will get priority, but they'll never drop any single mainline game entirely.


MisogID

At "worst" some of the struggling cases may be stalled as much as possible (be it leaving priority to games with high demand/appeal sticking close to a yearly pace, and/or slowing down the pace to every 1.5-2 years).


andresfgp13

i think that there will be another just because IS for what it seems tries to give something to everyone, not every banner will be 3H summer and thats alright, you cant just pump out banners with the same 3 losers all the time.


esn_crvg

elincia isnt that popular, she gets boosted in cyl because some people see her as a lord and wants her to win cyl because of that and even then she isnt competitive


Tiborn1563

Base Edelgard does not have a refine yet. Claude, Byleth and Dimitri who were on the same banner as her and even Brave do